It took the Foley scandal to finally and undisputable clarity point out just how homophobic the GOP really is. A rational party would focus it's ire on the pederasts in their midsts. But not the GOP. They don't have a problem the pedophile wing. Their anger is focused on those fags. (It is unbelievable. You can't make this stuff up.)

Well, there goes the "Gay Old Party"

It would have been amusing if the GOP found a hetrosexual pedophile in their midst. They'd almost all have to quit as they purged the straights from their party.

Oh, wait, that would require consistency on their part.

Never mind.

Oh, wait, that would require consistency on their part.

Never mind.

Posted by Sassy at 2006-10-10 11:55 PM | Reply

Now Sassy-they DO have consistency!




The consistency of baby shit.......

(It is unbelievable. You can't make this stuff up.)

Actually you can..

Eberly, you have a question to answer from way back. Look in the latest bodies found in Iraq thread. Who do you think the monsters are? I answered you. Why do you ignore my question?

A second marriage after a bad one is a triumph of hope over experience. Usually it works out because of the previous experience and the good faith on both sides. Gays getting shafted by the GOP and coming back for more is a triumph of stupidity over experience. It can't work out because there is unalterable bad faith on one side.

Guys, they 'll throw you under the bus again the minute they see the slightest hint of an electoral advantage in it. Don't forget that if it wasn't for their gay-hating Christianist base what the Bush GOP has become would be out there on the lunatic fringe.

this could come back to hurt them in the end.

I think I understand. A closeted gay man is elected as a Republican and is later found to be overly amorous with pages. And the problem is that . . . Republicans are homophobic. Were he a Dem, this wouldn't be a scandal at all--just another day in the life of a gay Democratic Congressman.

I think I'm getting overly amorous with you, rightisrightismyhero! The Dem's just don't get it with all their pedophile gayboys over there! Why must they hate this country? Now they all want to get married, satan spawn.

its the irony of the party
war is peace
failure is freedom
constitutional ban on gay marrige is hiding a closeted member of your party while he has innapropriate relationships with possibly underage pages for 6 years

this is a party with a plan let me tell you lol

Out of curiousity, exactly who are you rightwingers referring to when you throw out all these allegations of Democrat pedophiles that are so tolerated? Really, I'd like to know.

It seems to me if Democrats are so incredibly vile, you'd have some examples. Sure, Frank is gay and his roommate turned tricks behind his back, and Clinton had an affair. Anything else? I mean, anything that really happened? Anything that didn't involve consenting ADULTS?

The GOP never wanted them in the first place. I've never understood why the Disturbed Self Loathing Log Cabin Queens want to hang out with people who would gas them given half a chance.

rightisright says: "Were he a Dem, this wouldn't be a scandal at all--just another day in the life of a gay Democratic Congressman."

Anything to back up anything you say?

Why not just make up a number like you have on other topics? Come on rightisright, why not say 70% of democrats are gay. You'll never back it up anyway.

The GOP never wanted them in the first place. I've never understood why the Disturbed Self Loathing Log Cabin Queens want to hang out with people who would gas them given half a chance.

Posted by fnord at 2006-10-11 05:00 AM | Reply

This is one thing I could NEVER Figure out is the Log Cabin Republicans. Why on earth would ANYONE want to belong to an Organization whom belittles Gays and condemns their Sexuality. Makes NO sense to Me FNord

Larry

LARRY

Because they are at war with those who want to kill them. And it's easier to conquor the enemy from within.

Gays seek position of power just like every other self interest group.

Sit down sometime and take stock of every group you know who thinks they can run things better than everybody else.

Gays, blacks, women, Christians, etc. They all want the power to further their own private agenda at the expense of everyone else. They all think their way is the right way.

Unfortunately, there's not an ounce of altruism among them.

If the GOP starts cleansing itself of gays, I have a fear some of them might start talking about what they know.

If is a fact that most gay people are masters of discretion.

That is until they've been outed, and lost their job and publicly humiliated.

There are borderline men out there who are mostly straight and married but...play on the side. These guys may not make the gay list, but gays may bring them down if this gets ugly.

I don't approve of any gay list being published and I don't approve of gays outing married men who play, but if the GOP decides to blame the Foley mess on gays in general, this could get out of hand.

It's harder to be a gay Republican in gay circles than it is to be a gay in Republican circles -- gay activists are the most intolerant SOBs I've ever come across."
seems like enough hypocracy to go all around...

The Mark Foley scandal will show just how homophobic the Republicants really are.

The sad reality is that the majority of pedophiles are heterosexual. However in the right wing mindset all homosexuals are pedophiles.

BTW Kerrin, any activist whether it is homosexual, heterosexual, republicant, democrat, christian, etc are the most intolerant SOB's. That would be the definition of an activist.

Again you like to paint a broad brush on one particular group of individuals. Nice try. Thanks for playing.

It seems to me if Democrats are so incredibly vile, you'd have some examples. Sure, Frank is gay and his roommate turned tricks behind his back, and Clinton had an affair. Anything else? I mean, anything that really happened? Anything that didn't involve consenting ADULTS?

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what nonsense........in case you arent aware...the age of consent in DC is SIXTEEN....so by your own comments, foley DID NOTHING WRONG...........
there is also the congressman who at about the same time as studds was censured for having sex with a page also of consenting age......but he was a republican who had an old fashioned scandal......with a woman.....and he did what republicans do...he resigned where dems keep running and are celebrated for thier "sexual diversity".........

in fact.....he didnt even get him any......but there is a law in texas about enticing a minor...BUT IF the age of consent is SIXTEEN>.....I repeat as I have said before....what crime did he commit....or will this be like the crime that delay allegegly committed EXCEPT that when he was supposed to have committed it.......IT WASNT AGAINST THE LAW>.........and now you see how the selective outrage of dems is being lamblasted at every turn.......

well good for barney........maybe he can get them all over to this place and be some of his MALE HOOKERS to work in the MALE PROSTITUTION RING THAT WAS RUN OUT OF HIS HOUSE AT ONE TIME..........what ....he didnt have to resign over that???????? of course not.....selective moral outrage!!!!!!!!

If by the letter of the law, Foley did nothing wrong, then why did the Rep leadership not announce that?

Are you sure beyond a doubt that "he didnt even get him any"? What're you gonna say when it comes out that yeah, he did get him some?

Ummmmm Don't forget the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act. Also let us not forget that in Florida while the age of consent is 16 for people 23 Years and under it is a Second Degree FELONY to have sexual Relations with a Minor if the age of the perp is 24 and above unless that person is the Minors Spouse.

Larry

Wow Larry
What a difference a day makes.

So if you're 23 better jump her bones while it's still legal, kids.

TED...they didn't rush to judgement but set up an investigation as more info was released about the im's.unlike some of the libs on dr ...who by the way have called this man disgusting,weird ,diddling little boys and such...foley made a quick exit because he did violate ethics...if there really are any left in that cesspool we know as d.

Sexual battery? Is that a battery for a vibrator?

meant dc.we will let the legal system work!most of the intolerance seems to be coming from the dems...trying to win an election by piling on a gay man who may or may not be guilty of a crime.

Are you sure beyond a doubt that "he didnt even get him any"? What're you gonna say when it comes out that yeah, he did get him some?


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no cant say that I can without the investigation.........somethin
g that dems seem to have come around to lately.....I thought all investigations like this were a waste of money looking into the private lives of people....

and larry...thanks for the info......the info would certainly make it more confusing in the least wouldnt it? like where is the jurisdiction.....did he call him in florida while in DC and does that mean that he goes by the FL law or what?
bottom line.,..........democratic selective moral outrage just doesnt cut it anymore........

Yeah same thing Data or a Butterfly or a Bullet(No not one for a gun)

Larry

Bushloverboy,

"selective outrage of dems"

you've got to be shitting me!!

Talk about selective outrage!!

Here we have a man seducing young men and all you can say is "it was legal"?

You find that kind of behavior acceptable??

The GOP had better watch out. If they start up a witch hunt, it will surely backfire. The democrats will have a hey-day with this.

Frankly, democrats are still pissed off how Bill Clinton was harrassed for years. Any republicans with any kind of things in their past such as hookers at tax-payers expense, etc will be outed as well.

I mean, gay men keep secrets. We also keep receipts...you know...just in case.

democratic selective moral outrage just doesnt cut it anymore........

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Oh You are so full of shit it's not even funny You have NO room to talk BLT and that is the plain truth.

Larry

AND KERRIN........as was mentioned in the article in the spectator this week.....straight from an unidentified democratic operative.......for obvious reasons...

this was not supposed to be released until TEN days before the election but when the polls showed that bush was hitting buttons with the ISSUES.....those pesky little things that dems just cant afford to talk about.....then it was decided to release this info sooner that they wanted........

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm

verrrrrrryyyyyyy interesting....

Well, at a minimum, a GOP purge of gays will give Dick Cheney and his daughter something interesting to talk about at dinner, not to mention at the '08 convention.

Here we have a man seducing young men and all you can say is "it was legal"?

You find that kind of behavior acceptable??


oh bill.....you must have been out of twon or something.....all those times that I called this slime for what he is.....a child stalking......well rcade wont let me call him what I think he really is....but you get the picture.

and I am just posing the question. age of consent......hello?
or does that matter since he is a republican?

"well rcade wont let me call him what I think he really is"

Of course he will. Go ahead. Please.

You find that kind of behavior acceptable??

oh you mean like gerry studds in 1983 who was reelected by dems for another 13 years and who was given 3 standing ovations for being so 'brave'........you mean this kind of behavior?

or are you just being "SELECTIVE" Again.....

Data I want some Solar Powered or wind up Sex toys I hate the battery kind. Know what I am saying Nah You probably don't You're so old they bought them from the sears and roebuck catelogue.

Larry

nope...and you are just trying to egg me on because you have today in the pool about when he will suspend me for using those names......admit it....you have today dont you?>
and when does larry and lisa have?

whats the pool up to now anyway?

BLT You can't even get the date right. You need Help Majorly.

Larry

oh yeah I remember spin......she was outed or at least broadcast by dick and lick at the debates.......wow...that sure helped kerry and edwards then, didnt It?

Pool what Pool BLT You lost me there.

Larry

Hey the age of consent is 16 in DC, which is just like clinton was saying, she was legal, just like the 16 year old in this case.

Character Does matter doesn't it?

....Its his personal life, Aw I remember all the things the left said. Wasnt this foleys personal life too?

Ya know if they wanted to get married he would be of legal consenting age and the left would support that.

the question has no merit whatsover, at all, period.

I am angry for many reasons.

First, because young men may have mixed up sexualities at the hands of this man.

Second, gay people will take the rap for this problem.

Third, democrats in general will be assoicated with this somehow, because they generally support gay rights.

Fourth, I am sick and tired of the pious right who has some illusion they are so damn wonderful when I have seen first hand what a bunch of hypocrites many of them are. Sure, they don't suck dick, but many of the finger pointers steal, cheat, and lie. I mean, they're no better than anyone else. They just paint themselves that way.

They has some idea that passing laws will force people to behave. And conservative churches are pathetic. Talk about double standards!!! I've seen too much of it. I'm not saying people should do what they want. No...people should clean up their act...But it can't be forced with laws. I am very upset how many significant Christian leaders have shown the world their "selective outrage". Gays are the scorn of the world, while straight men cheat on their wives and cheat on their taxes and lie to customers. You have any idea how much is run through businesses that is not business related but taken off the bottomline? And this is done by your wonderful republicans (and democrats)...I mean they're all dirty but my point is that republicans act like THEY don't do things lots are guilty of. Many of todays problems stem from out of control greed, worshipping at the alter of capitialism. Blaming all ills on "liberals" grows old.

Well..enough of this...

of course it does......so why doesnt it matter when its a democrat.....clinton, frank studds, et al......

larry....when I first came back lisa talked about how quickly it would be before I became a castaway because of my political incorrectness.........and she and someone made a joke about betting on it...........

"....Its his personal life, Aw I remember all the things the left said. Wasnt this foleys personal life too?"

No, Capital Pages were part of his work like and should not have been part of his personal life. As a general rule, most things dealing with the day-to-day operations would not be part of someone's personal life.

work like = work life

Dontgetit,

Monica was an intern, you are clues less.

The hypocrisy of defending Bill as shown above by DGI.

"Here we have a man seducing young men and all you can say is "it was legal"?"

"You find that kind of behavior acceptable???" UMMMM BILL???....isn't that one definition of homosexuality? provided said you man is of age?

"First, because young men may have mixed up sexualities at the hands of this man."UMMMM BILL????aren't gays genetically homosexual???are you saying there could be confusion?

"Fourth, I am sick and tired of the pious right who has some illusion they are so damn wonderful when I have seen first hand what a bunch of hypocrites many of them are. Sure, they don't suck dick, but many of the finger pointers steal, cheat, and lie. I mean, they're no better than anyone else. They just paint themselves that way."UMMMM BILL..are you now equating somosexuality with IMMORAL behavior like "steal,cheat,and lie"

Man, everybody seems to keep ignoring the REAL problem. It's the national unity and security STUPID. Not gays and straights, black and white, Dems and Reps It's freedom or oppression. It' Red White and Blue. Do we stand united for defending our freedoms or do we continue arguing about our differences and ignore our commonaities??? Wise up it's almost too late. Our freedoms and way of life is under attack 24 hours a day. Our enemies never rest - They ARE UNITED
for their cause.........What a country.

tvb

I really hope the Gay Old Pedophiles party does kick out all the gays.....cuz the stories they will tell of Rethuglican corruptions, etc. will be quite revealing. The Thugs are a bit perplexed, if they keep the gays they lose the ignorant right wing Christians but if they kick them out the truth about them will leak out and destroy them. Oh what to do if you are a corrupt, hateful, greedy Rethuglican?????

yes tvb.....you are correct, but when the dems pull out this kind of stuff just before an election....even though it was earlier than they had planned.....it takes advantage of a public that is more concerned with a footplayer who goes by his initials rather then whats going on.
when they pull this stuff, it is important that the truth comes out with regard to the real issue behind the message......which has much more to do witht the messenger than the message.......and it also seems more prevalent because we on the right dont just bend over and take it and say thank you may I have another...and I am not talking about getting pops......and that pisses the left off more than anything, it seems........

Ker,

I was coming from the Christian perspective who oftentimes DO see these things all the same.

Frankly, we're all in the same boat if you ask me.

ignorant right wing Christians

I can understand your disgust with these 'ignorant right wing christians'../they are the group responsible for your leftists socialists being on the outside looking in..

and I have just copied that line off and will be showing to as many "ignorant right wing christians" as I can find this afternoon. this way they can see just a little of the enemy we face from within..........thank you so much for the help and support!!!!!!!!!!!

TVB,

My opinion is that it IS in the country's best interest to change the power base in Washington and the Foley affair is a tool to help that happen.

Personally, I don't believe this was planned. I mean, democrats don't always seem to think ahead that well...hahaha

Teresa Heinz for first lady??? What were we thinking???

Kerr,

Puleasseaase, all you had from every dem when Clinton was seducing young women in the oval office was its legal.

Yeah, because a straight Republican has never done anything to embarass the team. They just follow Bush's example and always come across as knowledgable, caring professionals.

"" but when the dems pull out this kind of stuff just before an election""

Wolf Blitzer says: "Do you have ANY proof?"
Or are you just making wild accusations as usual????
You guys are pathetic when things aren't going your way. Whining "it's the Democrats, it's the evil Democrats."
Did the Dems make Denney (I never met a pervert I didn't like) Hastert cover the story up???
Did the Dems force the Rethugs not to tell the only Dem on the Page committee???
How much Kool Aide does it take these days to stay totally brainwashed???

BTW, just heard that ABC News says it was a "staunch Republican who would never consider voting Democrat" that leaked the story. So much for the "it was the Democrats b.s."

here goes conservatives...no lip service!openly gay man runs on ssi reform,welfare reform,border+illegal alien control,hsa accounts,school vouchers...against say chafee or snow...who'd y'all vote for? asked spouse the same question ...hands down vote the gay man.it's issues..and he is not very tolerant of gay lifestyle!

DANNI..i see your staunch republican and raise you two staunch dems for border security.

"(I never met a pervert I didn't like)"...your words DANNI...calling gay men perverts again.WHERE IS your tolerance.this could be considered hate speah!

good one kerrin and danni..

however....according to the spectator a couple of days ago from a dem operative....that this issue was put aside until ten days before the election but had to come out early since the dems were getting killed on the real issues of the day........

nice one though.........

Puleasseaase, all you had from every dem when Clinton was seducing young women in the oval office was its legal.

Posted by JMFJ


Dems....I did not have sex with that woman


repubs...I did hot have sex with that young, hot, sweaty, young, male page

As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

What possible medical purpose could that be? Having a sexual battery stuck in your twat?

Bush lover i have heard this story has been shopped around for a 6 months and several outlets decied not to publish including fox news(Harpers was planning a piece that was going to be published on june 2nd but couldnt get an interview with the page to confirm the story). So stop with the Dem conspiracy crap you sound crazy and regardless how can you defend a man who was hitting on a 16 year old boy in 01 when he was a page is beyond me. Also the age of consent in DC is 16 if you are no older then 23 years old. For a 52 year old it's 18 so If you are going to defend a pedophila please have your facts about the case correct or else you look like a pedophila who is protecting one of his own. I mean i can understand following Bush or the repubilicans blindly but a pedophila have you no shame, on top of that if your party would just take responsablity for this and clean house they would probly end up winning back alot of there base and the elections this November.

""DANNI..i see your staunch republican and raise you two staunch dems for border security.""

Project for righties. Take map of Mexican border with US. Take a scaled down model of 700 mile fence. Put it where you want on 1951 mile border. Put it wherever you want. Now, explain how it will stop illegal immigration.
A Democrat with a simple map on an easel could easily show the "fence" to be the stupid political nonsense that it is.
In truth both Republicans and Democrats KNOW that if we punished employers who hire illegal aliens we could easily solve the problem. It is called enforcing the law but I notice few righties ever suggest it. I guess cheap labor is more important than border security.

"and I have just copied that line off and will be showing to as many "ignorant right wing christians" as I can find this afternoon."

OH NO!!!!

BL2 is going to show them someone saying "ignorant right wing christians"!!!! Now they'll get all mad and switch from Democrats to Republicans!!!

First of all, I believe the previous writer wasn't referring to all -- or even most -- Christians, just those of the "ignorant right wing" persuasion. There's plenty of those, but they are a subset within a greater group of co-religionists, many who actually understand the message of Christ and are ashamed of those in their midst who use his name in vain and who distort his message (those "ignorant right wing Christians" or "IRWC's" as I'll refer to them in the future).

Second, don't assume that the Repubs care all that much about IRWCs either. The political power they've had to date has been all based on building a loose coalition of several disparate groups. They found that they could get the IRWCs to vote in a bloc against their own interests by hyping up a couple of hot button social issues that the real GOP has no intention of ever doing anything about. It's relatively easy to fire up the IRWC groups by making noise about how "gays are taking over the schools and trying to convert your kids" because the IRWCs don't tend to get too fired up about things like tax credits for companies moving jobs off shore or the business opportunities for key defense industry contractors that are created by starting unneccessary wars...

But start some gratuitous gay bashing and ranting about how the culture is changing (which it does over time, of course)...and the IRWC's are on board and foaming at the mouth...

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Oh, oh, BL2--- you just called us "leftists socialists" .... I'm going to go show that to all of my non - "IRWC" friends - that will fire them up!!! Now they'll vote Dem because you are calling them nasty names!!!

"""and I have just copied that line off and will be showing to as many "ignorant right wing christians" as I can find this afternoon.""

I'll bet that the ones who can read will be angry. The rest won't know what you are showing them.

"according to the spectator"

--- Well, there's your problem, BL2 - maybe you should get your news from sources that are not simply rags that like to spread rumors and gossip soley to discredit Dems and cover up for Repubs? Maybe you should check out this publication's relationship to something called "the Arkansas project"? Bottom line -- don't believe anything you read in that rag nor expect to be taken seriously if you quote it. It's not much different than quoting the National Enquirer, just not as much fun.

"a couple of days ago from a dem operative....that this issue was put aside until ten days before the election but had to come out early since the dems were getting killed on the real issues of the day........"

Yeah, the Dems are really getting killed on the "issues of the day"...

I can see the Repubs ... "hey, we're gay bashing here!!! Stop paying attention to these other things, they aren't real!! See, gays are going to take over the country --- them and the muslims.. be afraid!!! Scary gays!!! (Don't worry about the ones in the closet on the Republican side.)

A second marriage after a bad one is a triumph of hope over experience. Usually it works out because of the previous experience and the good faith on both sides.


Posted by BlueInBushland at 2006-10-11 12:20 AM

Second marriages have a 70% failure rate.

I'll bet that the ones who can read will be angry


My Danni, I thought the dems were the party of inclusion. You certainly are a bigot.

DC they are getting killed. I mean its the worst economy ever. Unemployment is the highest ever. Gas Price are the highest ever. Right? And yet, its close, and you might not gain anything.

"My Danni, I thought the dems were the party of inclusion. You certainly are a bigot."

She calls bigots what they are and so, therefore, is a bigot.

Yep. That makes sense.

"DC they are getting killed. I mean its the worst economy ever. Unemployment is the highest ever. Gas Price are the highest ever. Right? And yet, its close, and you might not gain anything."

It's close??!!!???

WHere in the world do you get that? The Repubs are getting killed in all of the polls at present.

October 10, 2006
The battle for control of the U.S. Senate is coming down to the wire and it's all tied. Rasmussen Reports currently rates 49 Senate seats as Republican or Leans Republican and 49 seats as Democrat or Leans Democrat (see State-by-State Summary). Only two states remain in the Toss-Up category--New Jersey, and Missouri.

DC, where are you getting yours from?

""You could argue we've strayed on those. Fine. But the Rep party is more than one dimensional... just as the Dem party is more than one dimensional.""

Oohrah, personally I want the Republican party to survive, and prosper. We need both parties. However, the Republicans need to get rid of the neofascists and they need to deal with the Christian right wing which tries (and largely succeeds) to control the party. I fully realize there are millions of good, honest, Republicans but they have been so determined to win elections that they have made a few too many deals with the "devil."

It would actually be good for the Republican party to lose in November, reevaluate their membership and positions and then re-emerge as the REpublican party of Eisenhower and Goldwater.

deals with the devil, sounds like the PATH to 10/8, brought to you by you know who.

We were tricked
Madeline NotBright

totaly AGREE danni...like to see the majority of them handed their walking papers...just not suicidal enough to want dems in power!

What is that called if they take a dump on them? A Steamer?

the depravity of the GOP has no bounds.

Frank: GOP Will Dump Gays

Great. Who's going to give them all their stunning fashion advice now?

""For me a big thing is judges.""

Which is one of the traditional Republican issues. The two parties do consist of various factions but the Republicans are DOMINATED by the neofascists and the religious right. The Democrats, I don't think, are dominated by any one faction, if they were you would see the same type of "one mindedness" that has been evident in the Republican Party since Reagan.

one mindedness? like wanting that bunch of wizzen gray haired old cadavers to follow the constitution...not a living constitution as they think...and maybe not foreign law. with activist judges overthrowing state laws ,voter referendums and allowing govco to take an old couples retirement dream cottage to give to a big private developer...hell i can't think of many reason it would not be importaqnt...

first of all to the asswipes who still dont get it....I have NEVER DEFENDED this guy in any way. you on the left just dont like it when we put the mirror up to your face.......maybe a nose job would help some of you........ha!

and I have been out working to see that the left is not able to elect judges..
pelosi has stated recently that in the first 100 HOURS of her reign if she is the speaker that taxes will be raised...now I know that danni and the rest of you anti corporate whatevers will rejoice at that because you think that all the big shots will be paying your way...but one large reason that the deficit has been cut in half THREE YEARS EARLIER THAN PROJECTED is the amount of taxes that the rich are paying right now......sure lets raise thier taxes and put lots of people out of work...and remember corporations DONT REALLY PAY TAXES ANYWAY........the consumer does.....damn...that should really help the economy.......

Republicans are DOMINATED by the neofascists and the religious right.

danni....with what respect I can muster.......sometimes you show the signs of being a raving lunatic........

Out of curiousity, exactly who are you rightwingers referring to when you throw out all these allegations of Democrat pedophiles that are so tolerated? Really, I'd like to know.


It seems to me if Democrats are so incredibly vile, you'd have some examples. Sure, Frank is gay and his roommate turned tricks behind his back, and Clinton had an affair. Anything else? I mean, anything that really happened? Anything that didn't involve consenting ADULTS?

Posted by argh at 2006-10-11 04:06 AM | Reply | Flag

Bill Clinton gave official executive pardons to scofflaws either convicted or believably accused not just of sexually explicit conversations with minors, but of the actual sexual acts of with minors. Yet the media and the Democrats (the two parts of the de facto U.S. Party of the Left) raised either no criticism, or barely a peep, against the lack of moral judgment by Clinton that was far worse than that by an ethically somnolent Speaker Hastert. Whereas Hastert merely failed to investigate some icky messages, Clinton gave an official imprimatur to actions already documented.

First, there was the case of then-U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds. He was serving a seven-year sentence for convictions on 15 counts of wire fraud, bank fraud, and other corruption, and for having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker. At the behest of the not-very-Rev. Jesse Jackson, Clinton included him in a group of 176 pardons issued on the last day of his presidency (after which Jackson hired Reynolds to be, of all things, a youth counselor). While Clinton did indeed feel a good deal of media heat for those pardons in toto, it was for other, campaign-finance-related pardons rather than for the pedophile Reynolds that he endured the most criticism.

Unfortunately, Clinton's pardon of that deviant had a precedent in Arkansas -- a precedent in which neither the mainstream media nor congressional Democrats showed the slightest interest despite years of efforts by conservative critics to convince them of the relevance of the issue.

When Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, one of his big fund-raisers (and, by some unconfirmed but oft-believed reports, a partying companion) was a man named Dan Lasater, who also at one point employed Clinton's brother Roger. Lasater eventually was convicted of having, on numerous documented occasions, served as a distributor of significant amounts of cocaine. But that's not all he did. Among the official files on Lasater that Gov. Clinton was expected to review was a sworn affidavit from one Patricia Smith. In the affidavit, Ms. Smith swore that she had been 16 years old and a virgin until Lasater, in her words, "plied me with cocaine" in return for sex. She said, with great descriptive detail, that Lasater did so not once but numerous times.

Nuff said!

Bill Clinton gave official executive pardons to scofflaws either convicted or believably accused not just of sexually explicit conversations with minors, but of the actual sexual acts of with minors. Yet the media and the Democrats (the two parts of the de facto U.S. Party of the Left) raised either no criticism, or barely a peep, against the lack of moral judgment by Clinton that was far worse than that by an ethically somnolent Speaker Hastert. Whereas Hastert merely failed to investigate some icky messages, Clinton gave an official imprimatur to actions already documented.

First, there was the case of then-U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds. He was serving a seven-year sentence for convictions on 15 counts of wire fraud, bank fraud, and other corruption, and for having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker. At the behest of the not-very-Rev. Jesse Jackson, Clinton included him in a group of 176 pardons issued on the last day of his presidency (after which Jackson hired Reynolds to be, of all things, a youth counselor). While Clinton did indeed feel a good deal of media heat for those pardons in toto, it was for other, campaign-finance-related pardons rather than for the pedophile Reynolds that he endured the most criticism.

Unfortunately, Clinton's pardon of that deviant had a precedent in Arkansas -- a precedent in which neither the mainstream media nor congressional Democrats showed the slightest interest despite years of efforts by conservative critics to convince them of the relevance of the issue.

When Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, one of his big fund-raisers (and, by some unconfirmed but oft-believed reports, a partying companion) was a man named Dan Lasater, who also at one point employed Clinton's brother Roger. Lasater eventually was convicted of having, on numerous documented occasions, served as a distributor of significant amounts of cocaine. But that's not all he did. Among the official files on Lasater that Gov. Clinton was expected to review was a sworn affidavit from one Patricia Smith. In the affidavit, Ms. Smith swore that she had been 16 years old and a virgin until Lasater, in her words, "plied me with cocaine" in return for sex. She said, with great descriptive detail, that Lasater did so not once but numerous times.

Yet despite this evidence of alleged sex with a minor combined with narcotics use, in files full of other egregious drug-related behavior for which Mr. Lasater was convicted, Gov. Clinton gave Lasater an official pardon -- explaining that Lasater needed the pardon in order again to acquire a firearms permit for recreational hunting purposes. But the mainstream media never showed any interest in this story.

The point in dredging up this history is not to excuse Hastert, not one bit, for his inability to see that the suggestive Foley e-mails merited further investigation. The point is to ask why dirty talk by a Republican is treated as being far more serious than positively depraved actions by Democrats. And to ask why Hastert, whose sin was negligence, should be held to a higher standard than Clinton, whose sins, twice, involved official commutations of criminal penalties.

A pox on all their houses

thank you dawg...nicely done...but expect to be assaulted as a defender of foley within a matter of minutes...



danni....meant to add........a raving lunatic....but not any worse than any of the other raving lunatics here....ha ha.....and of course redneck has a categoty all his own.

Oh, and what about Nancy Pelosi marching with Harry Hay, pedophile supporter for the Man Boy Love Association, during a gay pride march in San Fransisco. Classic Liberal hypocrisy!

ooooooooooo thats a good one...I dont suppose you have access to a photo of that do you? something else I can take with me to show the voting public just what the enemy within really looks like......

okay here is a FREBIE to all my liberal hack buds.......


one of the last parades I had to do was around some clowns and there was a picture of me walking by the clowns.....and that doesnt mean that I am one of them..


(PLEASE INSERT JOKE HERE.............

"Oh, and what about Nancy Pelosi marching with Harry Hay, pedophile supporter for the Man Boy Love Association, during a gay pride march in San Fransisco. Classic Liberal hypocrisy!"

You people are ridiculous.

Some guy walks in a parade 3 rows away from her and you assume that means she supports his cause?

Keep stretching.

Hey, I rode on an airplane once with John McCain (true). That must mean he supports the Dems! After all, I'm a Dem and I was only a few rows away from him!

Pathetic.

Well ya need to do some research DC, ya see your bud Harry was position #31, 3 spots away from your girl Nancy. These are spots of honor, put out on an invitation. Nancy would have gotten this invitation, with this mans name on it. Most polititions will check out who they are seen with. So either your girl is stupid or did not care.

Pathetic? Definition of pathetic is liberal.

Furthermore, Since Hillary, an acting Senator, stood by and watched her husband pardon two different pedophiles, and did nothing about it, I think Hillary should resign immediately. You libs should head this up, or shut up.

Nuff said.

Thank you Dawg.

"Furthermore, Since Hillary, an acting Senator, stood by and watched her husband pardon two different pedophiles,"

And who were they?

Gee, don'tgetit, can't you even read? You are so tiring.

I think I'm going to wait until I see who George Bush pardons on his last day in office. If I understand the system, the President is being lobbied as we speak.