This is just what we need, with all the other money we waste on a fruitless war in Iraq and repetitive spacewalks, now we'e going after the big fish -polygamists. Can't we just find a better way to spend our tax dollars how in the hell could a man take more than one wife mine drives me up the wall and leave these people to their way of life, even though we don't agree with it?

Tell us, rightnut, parasites like this:

"...we have been kissing the asses of afreakin Americans for 200 years . The only thing you can do for them is give them each as many white women , gold chains , mercedes or BMWs as they can handle ."

Posted by rightnut at 2005-07-22 05:28 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAh
ahaha

Politicians are all shit.

You would think that the punishment they get for marrying more than one at a time would be enough - both in this life and the next.

Wow, the Mormons are really going to have it rough.

Okay, let's just hope Hill replaces Reid next year.
Or maybe we need to borrow some more money from China to investigate punters with knives too.

Can't we just find a better way to spend our tax dollars how in the hell could a man take more than one wife mine drives me up the wall and leave these people to their way of life, even though we don't agree with it?

Posted by tedoffensive at 2006-09-13 09:44 PM

Yeah, enforcing the law is way over rated. Besides, we need that money to outlaw gay marriage, thereby creating more laws we will never enforce.

What is the matter Justsome, pissed that it isn't a "fundie" who is doing this? If it were then this thread would have 500 posts by now.

Free independent thinkers of the DR!

Not partisian hacks!!

LMAO

This Is As Bad As The Horse Chili !!!

Can We Please Have A 3rd Party ?

-Sarge

"Reid said. "But child abuse and human servitude have nothing to do with religious freedom and must not be tolerated."

Fuck that! Where am I going to get my $200 Nikes?

This is one reason I'm not a Democrat; why is he wasting time on this crap? If child abuse or rape or incest are going on then, by all means, go after the bastards for that, but who cares if some dude and a bunch of chicks want to shack up together?

"why is he wasting time on this crap?"

He's a politician; It's what they do.

What is the matter Justsome, pissed that it isn't a "fundie" who is doing this? If it were then this thread would have 500 posts by now.

Posted by eberly at 2006-09-13 10:19 PM

Why would I be pissed that someone is talking about enforcing the law?

Obviously it's you fundies who will be pissed. First they came for the polygamists, then they came for the war profiteers. Then they came for the embezzlers, then those breaking labor laws, then those breaking environmental laws, then the con artists, and those committing incest, and all the rest of the conservatives.

And then America was clean of the Republifundie culture of corruption.

It truly takes a Republifundie to state law enforcement is a 'waste of time'.

The real problem here is that there are a bunch of old men having sex with little girls and calling it a religion. They marry some of these girls of before they turn 12. Some sects even ban teenage boy (set them off by the side of the road) so they won't take up the little girls.

The right wing said during the gay marrage debate that the next step would be polygamy. The only people here arguing against an investigation seem to be right wing.

Hmmm.

"The only people here arguing against an investigation seem to be right wing."
--SNEAKYPETE

Oh really? Would you like to back up that claim please? I look and I see people from both sides of the isle saying this is a waste of time.

Personally, I don't think its wrong to enforce polygamy laws, but why do we need a special task force for it? Why not just have regular ole cops do it? Its all politcal garbage.

On the other hand, I find it interesting that people like Justsomedouche will say "get republicans out of the bedroom," but then when a democrat gets involved in it its okay. People like Justsomehack are a disease that needs a cure.

There has to be something more important than this they can spend our money on.

OORAH

You are such a hypocrite !!

Rove et al have unleashed the 'gay marriage' non-issue on us for 6 years now.

When a Democrat talks about a "value issue" you get up on your high horse and accuse him of a "lame attempt"?

Make up your fucking mind.

Dems don't preach values

Actually, they just don't pretend to be the only people WITH values.

It's reflected on this blog. The utter contempt for guys like me who are ruining this country, in your opinion.

Well, you voted for an administation that, through carefully constructed innuendo, propoganda, and NOT trying to educate the public, has allowed some 40% of the country to believe that Saddam had something to do with 9-11. That number is almost doubled among our troops.

Disgraceful.

Dems dont speak religion because they're missing their balls, and have fed into the self defeating notion that the right owns God.

So it's the media's fault iraq is a nightmare? I'd blame rumsfeld for that.

As far as the medias blame: yeah...they really ran 24/7 hardocre war erection news in the buildup to Iraq.

Job losses.

Illegal immigrants.

Terrorism.

Electronic voting machines that can be hacked.

Billions stolen from Iraq.

And this is the best that we can work on?

How about a flag burning task force?

How about a gay holding hands in public task force?

My God these assholes in Washington do nothing.

Is this gonna be like the "Porn Task Force" in the Reagan Administration when a bunch of old farts like Ed Meese got together and watched porn so that they could warn the rest of us against it?

If so, who is gonna be the guy appointed by Bush to spiritually wed some 14-year-old girl so that the rest of us know not to do it?

change the argument for gay marriage from
a person should be able to marry who they want to a person should be able to marry as many who's they want -and you have it
the government regulatin love
jasman

change the argument for gay marriage from
a person should be able to marry who they want to a person should be able to marry as many who's they want -and you have it
the government regulatin love
jasman

what we need is a task force that finds out why we keep votin for these time wastin money spendin do nothin idiots in
both parties
jasman

OohRah,

I'm sorry to say but you are "Blinded By The Light"

Bush Voters

1. More Divorce

2. More Obese

3. Lower IQ

Marriage, Holy Matrimony- Divorce In Gods Eye Is Wrong

Obesity- Your Body Is God's Temple

Stupidity- Your Body Is God's Temple

So They Have Lower Values

Crooks:

Jack Abramoff,Duke Cunningham,Dave Weldon, Halliburton, Tom DeLay, Environmental Protection Agency head Christine Todd Whitman said New York's "air is safe to breathe and the water is safe to drink."

Sex:

Adelphia Communications Corp.: Donated large sums of money to some of the most conservative members of Congress. They are also the first cable company to offer hard-core adult movies to subscribers. Daily Kos article

Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican legislator, was sentenced to 13 years in prison for molestation of his daughter and her friend for eight-year period starting when they were 9. Full Article

Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. Source Also accused of sexually assaulting another girl. Denver ABC Article

Dick Armey (R-Texas), former professor, has been accused by The Dallas Observer of sexually harassing female students.

Jim Bakker, televangelist with Pat Robertson at Robertson's Christian Broadcasting network. Committed adultery with Jessica Hahn [1] and then used charitable donations to pay her hush money[2]. Fellow televangelists say he's gay. [3][4]Indicted on 23 federal charges of fraud, tax evasion, and racketeering [5].

Bob Barr, Republican Congressman from Georgia. Sponsored the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act, saying "The flames of hedonism, the flames of narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundation of our society, the family unit." Was married three times. Paid for his second wife's abortion (she also suspected he was cheating on her). Failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while married to his third and present wife was photographed licking whipped cream off of strippers at his inaugural party.

Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Booth Bay Register Article

Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Source: Washington Blade

Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old) on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Source

Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens. Editor and Publisher article. In August 06, Beres confessed. The Portland Mercury

Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Sacramento Bee article

John Bolton Bush's appointee ambassador to United Nations, corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton's first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department. Raw Story Article

Mike Bowers Former State Attorney General, prosecuted the famous Bowers vs. Hardwick case, based on Georgia anti-sodomy laws. Admitted to a 10-year adulterous affair Slate article

Pat Buchanan predidential candidate, media talking-head. His campaign refused to confirm or deny whether Pat has had chlamydia or any other venereal diseases.

Andrew Buhr, Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. Source

Ted Bundy campaigned for the Republican Party. Infamous serial rapist who murdered 16 women. Source: BBC

Jim Bunn Congressman of Oregon: With his success due in great part to support from the Christian Coalition, Bunn won his congressional seat, then immediately ditched his wife (and mother of his five children), married a staffer, and put his new wife on the state payroll for the unheard-of salary of $97,500. Conservative Babylon

John Allen Burt, Republican anti-abortion activist, convicted of sexually molesting a 15 year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran. Source: Pensacola News Journal

Dan Burton, Republican Congressman who, while married, fathered a child by another woman. Salon.com Article

George W. Bush, Republican president, accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of raping Margie Schoedinger, who was later suicided. Accused by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999.

Neil Bush, brother or G. W. Bush, in a March 2003 divorce deposition, admitted repeatedly having sex with strange women who just showed up at his room while on an Asian business trip. (Overshadowing the sex scandal; the business scandal--see link.) Washington Post article.

John Butler, Republican activist, was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Ken Calvert, Congressman (R-Ca), champion of the Christian Coalition and its "family values." Sued as an alimony deadbeat by his ex-wife. Said "We can't forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky." In 1993 he was caught by police receiving oral sex from a prostitute and attempted to flee the scene.

Charles Canady, Congressman (R-Florida), Judiciary Committee member. Lied to his constituents about his adulterous affair with Sharon Becker, which caused her divorce.

Helen Chenoweth, Congresswoman (R-Id.). In 1995, Chenoweth had denied having an affair when asked about it by The Spokane Spokesman-Review. In 1998 she called (in a campaign ad) for Bill Clintons resignation saying "I beleive that personal conduct and integrity do matter". Days laters she admitted to a six-year adulterous affair with a married associate. but now she claims a pardon from a higher authority: "I've asked for God's forgiveness, and I've received it," she revealed.

Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.Honolulu Star-Bulletin Article

Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet. Source: Newmax

Roy Cohn, continually condemned gays and gay rights. Was a closet gay who died of AIDS. Wikipedia Article

Carey Lee Cramer Political consultant and anti-Kerry ad producer, tried for molesting two young girls, one of whom lived with him, and was 8 yrs old; the other starred in an anti-Kerry commercial. Diary Diary. The Monitor.

Dan Crane, Republican Congressman, married, father of six. Received a 100% "Morality Rating" from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. Salon.com article On July 20, the House voted for censure Crane, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct.[6]

Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair. Christianity Today article

Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent up to $5,000,000 on prostitutes.

Missoulian Article on the trial | Missoulian Article on his conviction

Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. WBAL Channel article

Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. News Channel 8 Article

Nicholas Elizondo, Director of the Young Republican Federation molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Halfway down this Bakersfield Californian article

Thomas B. Evans, Jr. -R Congressman from Delaware may have had an afair with Paula Parkinson (see his article for more info).

Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two. Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and was charged with 7 related offenses. Age 62 at time of arrest. Dallas News Article | Atrios Article

John Fund, of the Wall Street Journal, a prominent anti-abortion columnist and GOP fund raiser. He lost his position after it was revealed that he impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then encouraged her to abort his child. American Politics Journal Article

Jeff Gannon Partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name who got invited to Bush's Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay prostitute. Truthout Article. See also dKospedia's page on Jeff Gannon.

J.C. Watts, Representative (R-Oklahoma), loud champion of "moral values." Has out-of-wedlock children.

Jimmy Swaggart, televangelist, said during a sermon "I'm trying to find the correct name for it ... this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. ... I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died." Had an affair with a prostitute.


What Is Up With Values With Them ?

-Sarge

11,000,000 illegal immigrants in this country and Congress is worried about 10 or 20,000 people. Come on November.

What's the difference between an elected Democrat and an elected Republican?

Nothing! Neither one gives a shit about us Americans.

"...their base is largely opposed to religion creeping into government."

You're in favor of "religion creeping into government?"

Maybe you need to study the history of Antelope, Oregon (circa: the 1980's) and then get back to us with your opinion on the desirability of "religion creeping into government."

Hans

On the other hand, I find it interesting that people like Justsomedouche will say "get republicans out of the bedroom," but then when a democrat gets involved in it its okay. People like Justsomehack are a disease that needs a cure.

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2006-09-14 12:10 AM

Obviously your drooling stupidity has no cure. Nice to see you continue to defend child rapists, polygamists, and incest.

Another day in the life of a Good Republifundie, huh?

"Could this be a lame attempt by Dingy Harry to show he's for "values" in this election cycle?"

Two years ago it was "protect the family, ban gay marriage," on all the lips of the Republicans running for any office.

Two years later, after maintaining their majorities in Congress and the presidency, has the US Constitution been amended to ban gay marriage? Has any progress been made towards fixing this "values" issue by the GOP?

The answer, obviously, is no.

So, in 2004, the GOP obviously was making a lame attempt to, once again, convince voters that they are for "values," when all they're really for is winning elections based on false promises.

Hans

From Pacifica:

"What's the difference between an elected Democrat and an elected Republican?







Nothing! Neither one gives a shit about us Americans."

Ding! Winner! Thread over!

This is stupid, polygamism isn't the problem, men having sex with children is the problem and as far as I know, that is already illegal.

MAYBE CONGRESS INVESTIGATING STERIOD USE IN PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL WAS ACTUALLY A BETTER USE OF THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR, BUT I DID NOT THINK SO AT THE TIME. THOSE IN CONGRESS THINK THEY ARE ROYALTY.

"Obviously your drooling stupidity has no cure. Nice to see you continue to defend child rapists, polygamists, and incest.

Another day in the life of a Good Republifundie, huh?"
--JUSTSOMECANCER

Really? I defended child rapists, incest and polygamy? Would you care to back up that statement? Talk about drooling stupidity.

To be exact, I didn't say anything about child rapists, or incest. There are already laws against that, and people who break those laws should be punished accordingly. I also said that I think its fine to enforce anti-polygamy laws, but that Reid's stunt in proposing a "task force" was just that, a stunt to score political points.

What I did that you took offense to was point out your hypocrisy. Polygamy has nothing to do with incest or child molestation. It is shacking with multiple people. You say the GOP should "get out of the bedroom" with the gay-marriage debate, but you don't say the same thing when Reid gets "in the bedroom" telling people they can't marry in groups. I think polygamy is wrong, and have no qualms about laws against it being enforced, just as I would have no qualms about laws against homosexual marriage being enforced, if they were to someday be put in place. I'm consistent. You on the other hand are a complete liberal hack who thinks that somehow conservativism is linked to child molestation, and would defend any democrat no matter how bad or stupid they are.

People like you on both sides of the isle are the reason this country sucks right now. You do nothing but spew partisan feces out of your mouth whenever given the chance.

THANKS REINFIELD. NOW GO BACK TO EATING SPIDERS.

Corky,

In this case the 2 were one and the same, but polygamy in general is not necessarily one and the same with child molestation. I'm not defending polygamy, I think polygamy is rightfully outlawed. And I'm certainly not defending child rape.

I think some of you missed the point here....

Last I checked the rape and molestation of children was considered to be by most people a serious offense. Hell some of you even go on about not even sending them to court and just putting a bullet in they're head.

And obviously, this is a problem that law enforcement has unseemingly been unable to deal with at large. This could be for a variety of reasons, political/local power, the cops may in fact be mormon themselves, etc..etc..Think italian style mafia. Maybe they pay off the cops to just shut up.

Thus.... a federal task force, of people not biased towards the mormons to investigate just how real or serious this underage marrying, and rape is. Just like a federal task force had to be assembled to go after the gangsters that owned the cops, the courts, and the politicians.

Waste of time eh? At least its no flag burning amendment.

All the corruption oozing out from the Bush Crime Family and investigating a bunch of polygmists is the BEST thing the Democrats can come up with???? aagggghhhhhhhhhh.

Just for comparison... if this was an actual attack on the private lives of people... you might read a comment like this.....

"'those who support gay and lesbian families are no different from those who supported Adolph Hitler in the years preceding World War II'"

But instead... Reid said this....

"For too long, this outrageous activity has been disguised in the mask of religious freedom," Reid said. "But child abuse and human servitude have nothing to do with religious freedom and must not be tolerated."

See the difference?

At least when the Reps talk "values" it isn't just at election time.


Posted by OohRah at 2006-09-14 03:07 PM | Reply |


Yes they like to start a good year early for the elections. So technically your right... but....

And really you don't see any difference between trying to pass legislation to ban gay marriage that goes no where, and forming an actual federal task force to investigate something as serious as child molestation and rape?

If nothing else at least Harry's election time flag waving is focused on something at least most of us should be able to agree on and pursue. As opposed to being concerned with whether or not two men are cornholing each other.

OOHRAH,

My by posting that was, the GOP does not have "The Market Cornered" On Religion and Values.

There was a very Valid reason why The Founding Fathers Wanted Freedom Of Religion And Not To Form A Religion Of State.

The reason why the GOP has courted the religious Right was Pure Politics and Social Issues.

The Republicans Use to Be The Godless Industrialist, now the carry "Torch Of Christ"

Bush's Brain is An Self Admitted Agnostic Raised By A Homosexual Man.

Dick Cheney's Daughter Is A Homosexual

The Hero Of 9/11 Rudy Giuliani supports Gay Marriage and Abortion. He is the Front Runner for the GOP to be President.

So how is that when Gay marriage and Abortion is the Gauge of Values of The GOP ?

-Sarge

Abramoff's Evangelical Soldiers

Gambling might not rank as high as homosexuality or abortion on the list of social evils monitored by Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, but its growth has provided many occasions for his jeremiads. The indictment of Indian casino lobbyist and influential GOP activist Jack Abramoff was one such occasion. In a January 6 press release issued three days after Abramoff's indictment, Dobson declared, "If the nation's politicians don't fix this national disaster, then the oceans of gambling money with which Jack Abramoff tried to buy influence on Capitol Hill will only be the beginning of the corruption we'll see." He concluded with a denunciation of vice: "Gambling--all types of gambling--is driven by greed and subsists on greed."

What Dobson neglected to mention--and has yet to discuss publicly--is his own pivotal role in one of Abramoff's schemes. In 2002 Dobson joined a coterie of Christian-right activists, including Tony Perkins, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, to spearhead Abramoff's campaigns against the establishment of several Louisiana casinos that infringed on the turf of Abramoff's tribal clients. Dobson and his allies recorded messages for phone banking, lobbied high-level Bush Administration officials and took to the airwaves. Whether they knew it or not, these Christian soldiers' crusade to protect families in the "Sportsmen's Paradise" from the side effects of chronic slot-pulling and dice-rolling was funded by the gambling industry and planned by the lobbyist known even to his friends as "Casino Jack."

The only Christian-right activist confirmed to be completely aware of Abramoff's rip-off was Ralph Reed. He and Abramoff have a long and storied history together. When Abramoff chaired the College Republican National Committee in the early 1980s, Reed served as the organization's executive director. They reunited in 1989, when Abramoff helped Reed organize the remains of Pat Robertson's failed 1988 presidential bid into the Christian Coalition. In 1997, with the Christian Coalition under IRS investigation and Reed facing accusations of cronyism from the group's chief financial officer, he left to start his own consulting firm, Century Strategies. Reed contacted Abramoff right away. "I need to start humping in corporate accounts," Reed told him in 1998. "I'm counting on you to help me with some contacts."

I Guess "The Value" Of How Much You Can Pocket From The Roulette Tables.

-Sarge

I'm not defending polygamy, I think polygamy is rightfully outlawed. And I'm certainly not defending child rape.

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2006-09-14 02:56 PM

No, you are paying lip service to those things... you are just opposed to ENFORCING those laws.

Glad we have this clarified, LoD.

No, you are paying lip service to those things... you are just opposed to ENFORCING those laws.

Glad we have this clarified, LoD.

Posted by justsomeguy


you are right......we should enforce all laws. Including the one where you and your boyfriend are having sex in the wrong state.

Polygamy in the New Testament:

Before I present the verses from the New Testament that allow polygamy, I first would like to prove to you that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the laws of the Old Testament, and did order his followers (the Christians as we call them) to follow the laws of the Old Testament:

Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

Christians always say as an excuse "Oh this law doesn't exist in the New Testament, it is only the Old Testament." Well, according to Matthew 5:17-18 above, we clearly see that Jesus honored the Old Testament, and forces Christians to follow the unmodified laws of it that have not been replaced by newer ones in the New Testament. The Old Testament as we clearly see above does indeed allow polygamy without a shadow of a doubt !!.

There is not a single verse from the New Testament that prohibits polygamy. Christians usually mistakenly present the following verses from the Bible to prove that polygamy in the New Testament is not allowed:

Matthew 19:1-12 "1. When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to
the other side of the Jordan.
2. Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.
3. Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?"
4. "Haven't you read," he (Jesus) replied, "that at the beginning the Creator `made them male and female,'
5. and said, `For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh' ?
6. So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
7. "Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"
8. Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."
10. The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."
11. Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.
12. For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

In the above verses, we see that Jesus was approached with a question about whether or not it is allowed for a man to divorce his wife in Matthew 19:3. Jesus immediately referred to the Old Testament for the answer in Matthew 19:4. He referred to Adam and Eve, one man and one woman. The Old Testament does talk about the story of Adam and Eve as one husband and one wife. However, the Old Testament which Jesus had referred to in Matthew 19:3 does allow polygamy.

I Guess The Case Is Closed In The New Testament Also.

-Sarge

"No, you are paying lip service to those things... you are just opposed to ENFORCING those laws.

Glad we have this clarified, LoD."
--JUSTSOMEIDIOT

What the hell are you talking about? Do you not understand english? I guess english is too republifundie for you. Does "I think polygamy is rightfully outlawed," mean something other than I think polygamy is rightfully outlawed? Where did I say I don't want those laws enforced? I DO want them enforced, because I'm against polygamy.

I tell you Sarge, I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with you on most things, I do know that I learn something from all your posts. Bravo!

Geezer1,

I'm glad you gain information, most people don't research and take what is stated to be fact without confirming it. I use to be a Hard Core NEOCON until I started researching issues.

-Sarge

I was also a hard core righty. Always voted repub since 1977 until Dumbya started highjacking the constitution and the talking points came out and the lies and the spin. I can't stand that crap anymore.

What the hell are you talking about? Do you not understand english? I guess english is too republifundie for you. Does "I think polygamy is rightfully outlawed," mean something other than I think polygamy is rightfully outlawed? Where did I say I don't want those laws enforced? I DO want them enforced, because I'm against polygamy.

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2006-09-14 04:16 PM

Because you criticized law enforcement, then only went so far as to say you were glad it was outlawed.

Wiretapping without a warrant is outlawed. Do you see anyone enforcing that law?

Laws and enforcement, as I stated the first time, are two different things. So when you talk about things being outlawed, and fail to mention enforcement, you sidestep the fact that you don't care about seeing those laws actively enforced.

And that's exactly the reason you began criticizing this task force. If people start enforcing laws... the entire culture of corruption beings to weaken and crumble.