Gore is on this too eh?

Man, this guy should be President or something.

"...gave a razor thin victory to conservative ruling party candidate..."

I wonder when has this ever happened before? Any chance of a revolucion, en el sud o del norte de la frontera?

Posible , amigo. Hay mucho chinga con voto(sic) y el loco presidente mucho borracho, que lastima.

Nuestro presidente (Bush) es loco, si, no tiene ninguna razon, pero tambien el no tiene ninguna fuerza. La fuerza esta en la mano de los neocons. Muerte a los neocons!
Lo siento, mi Espanol no esta muy bien.

Where are the districts where they will do the recount -- all in safe pro-Calderon districts? Probably. The Mexican government and the so-called "elite" of Mexico want another globalist-type Presidente Fox lackey so they want Calderon to win and so does U.S. corporations with their globalist agenda.

Lopez-Obrador DID win this election but the globalists who rigged it are afraid Obrador might help the people of Mexico instead of the corporations so they want him to lose.

VIVA OBRADOR.

At this point, the government is damn if does, and damned if it doesn't. If there is no recount, Obrador's supporters scream "cover up". If there is a recount and Obrador again (for a third time) is declared the loser, his supporters will scream "fraud". I am not sure what the correct course of action is at this point. The problem with elections is that they are sometimes extremely close.

At this point, the government is damn if does, and damned if it doesn't. If there is no recount, Obrador's supporters scream "cover up". If there is a recount and Obrador again (for a third time) is declared the loser, his supporters will scream "fraud". I am not sure what the correct course of action is at this point. The problem with elections is that they are sometimes extremely close.

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Everything you said is 100% true.

As such, I've often wondered why recounts aren't handled by a neutral third party . . . some agency or even a neutral country who has no dog in the fight. An aribtrary board, so to speak, with both sides agreeing to the decision.

Mistrust is so rampant in politics that it seems to me both or all parties would save a lot of wear and tear if they'd turn the whole matter over to neutral arbitrators and be done with it.

I understand that everybody wants to be a manipulator and, of course, the stakes are high. Just like here in the U.S.A. But somebody is going to win (eventually)and it's a given that the other side isn't going to like it. Neutral arbitration is about the only way to settle these matters peacefully, not to mention indisputably.

When there is an allegation of fraud, I don't see that there is any choice by the state, in the interests of credibility, to put forth every effort to make a full and fair recount.

If our only form of interacting with our government is with our votes, there is nothing which demands more energies than being able to say to the citizens that their votes are important, are being protected, and are being properly tabulated.

And I really can't see any compelling arguments that it would be impractical or expensive or whatever. If we, or another country, is truly a democracy, there is nothing more important.

They will find George Bush really didn't win there either....

Calderon.......Wasn't he the always-elusive bad guy on the original Miami Vice?