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Posted by Derfla5 at 2006-07-02 03:53 PM | Reply


Israel Threatens to Assassinate Palestinian P.M.
I love how Larry picks and chooses when the UN will have power in a given situation.

If it would make the US look bad, then the UN position takes precedent.

If it supports Israel, then the UN position is irrelevant.

Consider "The plan to resolve the Arab-Jewish conflict in the British Mandate of Palestine, was approved by the United Nations General Assembly, at the UN World Headquarters in New York. The plan partitioned the territory into Jewish and Arab states, with the Greater Jerusalem area, encompassing Bethlehem, coming under international control. The failure of this plan led to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War." en.wikipedia.org

The entire UN General Assembly voted and approved the creation of Israel.

But Larry ignores that ruling completely and sides with the Arabs justifying their 50 years of terrorist attacks against Israel.

On the other hand Larry will condemn the US for acting unilaterally, without a 2nd UN resolution in Iraq which liberated 26 million people from a tyrant. Larry will even argue for hours that the need for a 2nd resolution takes precedent over the Constitution, Congressional Authorization, and even the ceasefire agreement from the first Gulf war and the 17 subsequent resolutions.

But when it comes to the clear intent of the UN to acknowledge the lawful right of a zionist state to exist where it does, then larry ignores the UN completely.




Posted by Derfla5 at 2006-07-02 03:49 PM | Reply


Larry

Now let us delve into this Previous post shall we.

Lokisfur Opines

But Larry ignores that ruling completely and sides with the Arabs justifying their 50 years of terrorist attacks against Israel.

BOTH Sides are equaly responsible for their terroristic actions. Not one side can stand tall and Proclaim they are above the frey.

Lokisfur goes on to state that.

On the other hand Larry will condemn the US for acting unilaterally, without a 2nd UN resolution in Iraq which liberated 26 million people from a tyrant. Larry will even argue for hours that the need for a 2nd resolution takes precedent over the Constitution, Congressional Authorization, and even the ceasefire agreement from the first Gulf war and the 17 subsequent resolutions.


First off Dubya was LEGALLY Required to obtain a Second UN Resolution SPecifically Authorizing the Use of Military Force against Saddam Hussein. NONE of the RELEVANT UN Resolutions gave any Automaticy for ANY Member state to act Unilateraly against Saddam Hussein for enforcement of the UN Resolutions.

continuing...........

As I was saying as per Article 6 clause 2 of the US COnstitution Emphaticaly states that.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.


SInce We are Signatories to and as a Founding Member of the United Nations It is Imparative that we abide by the set of Rules and Laws in which we agreed upon so many Years ago. To not do this is not only Breaking International Law but US Law as well. Dubya KNEW He needed a Second UN Resolution or else He would not have drawn one up. When He knew He could not Secure that Second UN Resolution specifically Authorizing Military Force He broke the LAWS Lokisfur. I am sorry that You have a very difficult time understanding this.


Larry

I have never found Larry's post to be anti-Israel and definitely never anti-American. I feel he loves this country and when he sees a threat -- such as the facist threat to our nation now coming from the imperial White House's current occupants, he speaks up.

We currently have a president in office who thinks he is KING. Larry has every right to question any threat to our nation, our Constitution and the Bill of "Rights that grant us our freedom and liberty. Just because he does not march in lockstep with DER Bush, does not mean he is unpatriotic. In fact, it is just the opposite.

It takes more courage to speak out against what you see is a real danger to our country than to act like most Republican shills and Rush dittoheads who spout nothing but 3 and 4 word soundbites -- "stay the course", "cut and run", "flip flopper" -- thought up and put on the air for them by Karl Rove in order for them to not have to actually think and debate what is really going on.

I believe the following is what concerns Larry and I know it concerns me too. If these 14 characteristics do not define today's Bush Administration, I don't know what else does.

Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism. Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism.

7. Obsession with National Security

Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined

Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.


9. CORPORATE POWER IS PROTECTED

The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.


10. Labor Power is Suppressed

Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .


11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.


12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment

Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.


13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


14. Fraudulent Elections

Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

You couldn't be more correct if You tried CalifChris. I LOVE My country I just do not love how She is being ran today. We have a manboy who thinks it's either His way or No way. We can not have that in AMerica. The President is supposed to be the Chief SERVANT not King for people to bow down to. As far as Me being Anti Semite nothing could be further from what I am and what I am about. I could care less if one is a Jew Christian Muslim Hindo etc etc etc. However I believe one has to act right with each other. I believe wholeheartedly that BOTH Sides between the Israeli Palestinian fight are WRONG and NEITHER side can hold their collective heads up High and say we did it right we are the rightious ones. Neither side can claim this Authority.


Larry

It apears that Lokisfur is not a Man at all but a Manboy like His Fuerher Dubya. Why did I expect ANYTHING else from Him.


Larry

An apology from Lokiderfl?

Why, that would speak of honesty, integrity and personal responsibility.

And on this 4th of July, the Drudge Retort reminds us how hateful, anti-American, and dishonest most Republicans and Conservatives really are...

... especially Republican Conservatives like Lokiderfl.

Hans

Larry, I see that it has been over fourteen hours since you asked...

... but still no apology from Lokiderfl

Or is it Derfloki?

Hans

Nope just goes to show me His lack of Integrity. CMBELL did the very same thing to me BUT unlike Lokisfur He apologized for it. I guess that is the difference between men and boys huh HUGE SIGH

Larry

Almost twenty hours now...

... and no apology from Lokiderfl.

Hans

EXACTLY 48 Hours and still no response. Quite Typical if You ask me.

Larry

EXACTLY 96 Hours and still no Apology. Quite Typical of a Manboy if You ask Me.

Larry

Larry maybe if you finally admitted Zarqawi is dead he would come around...

Larry maybe if you finally admitted Zarqawi is dead he would come around...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2006-07-07 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag:


SHow me proof show me proof that He is dead I do not believe it for one moment. They have said He was dead to later bring Him back alive again I aint that stupid. I WANT PROOF


Larry