I thought 'hell' was for children?

I encourage all of my liberal friends to go there.

"I thought 'hell' was for children?"

Hahahahaha, Pat was on 91X today.

"I'll take heaven for the weather and hell for the company." -- Mark Twain

In other words, heaven is probably full of republifundies, who wants to go there!

Member: repubifundies only think they are going to heaven. Do you think Jesus would hang out with any of them? He's not rich enough.

There are two things I would trade almost anything to see.
The first is when ALL these pathetic bible beaters who have done soooo much to give christendom a bad name go in front of God on Judgement day-and TRY to explain away their behavior.

The 2nd is when the devil gets back to his pad from torturing Hitler and Mussolini-and finds out what they've been doin' there while he was gone.......

actually the earliest copy of the scriptures found says that the number of the beast is really 616.... not 666...


google it.. :)

Inflation adjusted* 666

I hear the Republifundies are gearing up to sacrifice come goats, and eat the babies of a few poor people.

The festivities are planned for after Church, of course. Gotta keep up appearances, after all.

Falwells birthday

Evangelicals are hosting a pray-in to defeat Satan. I'm guessing they'll claim a victory. Sort of a holy Mission Accomplished.
Wonder if they did the same in 1906, 1806,...
Funny thing, June 6 wasn't June 6 when Revelations was hallucinated.
Fundamentalists: Proof there was no Intelligence in the Design.

665: across the street from the Beast

333: semi evil, half evil; the margarine of evil

"the number of the beast"

What was lost in the translation is that there is no "the" in Greek. So it's not the number of THE beast.

Conrad said the beast resides in all of us. I'd have to concur.

But I'll toast a brewski tomorrow just in case. I mean, maybe the Devil is not such a bad guy after all. Everything we hear about him is heresay, and who's to say that God is telling the truth.

Also, remember that this whole "666, end of the world, armaghedon, Damien, etc." tale is of recent origin. It's only a very loud minority of Christians who adhere to it.

When John wrote Revelation, he was writing about the persecution of 1st Century Christians under Emperor Domitian.

All this other crap is Jesus Science Fiction, for fundamentalists who don't want to learn the history of their own faith.

ahahahhaa....hehe...(wipes tears of mirth
from his eyes)...some of these posts are
hilarious..333...others, just sad...

ever notice how...when religion starts to
flag...when people start drifting away from church a bit that you hear yet another, "It's the End of the World" scenario from the Fundys, Evangelicals, or the Catholic church...

"Oh but this time it'll be true, no
really, now hand me your wallet!"

I'd like to see who is REALLY behind the
funding of movies like the Exorcist or
the Omen...someone w way too much time on
their hands oughta research that...

I'll bet you will find CHURCH dollars
involved somewhere...

Gotta keep those SHEEP God Fearing and donating dolla's!!

Go see the Da Vinci Code...
Crack a book OTHER than the Bible...
Get a Life b4 your time does run out..

OR...remain down on your knees, praying to
a God that may or may not exist, but whom
regardless of the fact, never answers...

P.S. I'm not Lucifer, not by a long shot,
just a single father tryin to get by
AND the only BEAST I know of for a
fact is MAN...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

Kelsey Grammer did a good of him job in x3.
I dont see the problem.

Earthmuse

If you think The Da Vinci Code is factual...well...you're as gullible as the people who think the events portrayed in the Left Behind series could actually happen. I have just started the book and I haven't seen the movie, but if its anything like Angels and Demons, which I have read, it's a piece of poorly written, manipulative trash (albeit entertaining). If you do just a bit of research beyond that story, you realize that much of what he writes is just plain wrong. There aren't 666 panes of glass in the Lourve pyramid, for example; that was a rumor encouraged by Parisians who thought the glass pyramid was an eyesore on their fair city.

But just keep "donating dollars" to that literary hack.

job of him
ooops

When John wrote Revelation, he was writing about the persecution of 1st Century Christians under Emperor Domitian.

All this other crap is Jesus Science Fiction, for fundamentalists who don't want to learn the history of their own faith.

Posted by vernon at 2006-06-05 11:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

You may want to put that in a letter to Dumdya Bush. He believes the earth is only 5,000 years old and he also believes in the end of days, which is apparent when you look at his policies toward consumption. Ol' Shrub thinks we wont be here for very much longer, Heck, why not use all the resources we want, there wont be a need for them soon.

Bush = Born Again Asshole

Vernon, usually you piss me off but today you are on a roll!
And Dylanfan, most people believe "Code" is as real as Harry Potter, or "the Force". And as far as a book's accuracy, wanna start documenting things in the Bible?
But the fundies sure know how to promote them.

I encourage all of my liberal friends to go there.

Posted by Republican4ever

You could fit all of them and the Jackson Five in a Mini-Minor.

dylanfan...(at least you got one good
thing goin for u...)

never said the movie was factual...but, I
would say this...anything that teaches people to question what they've been taught,to actually "use" their brains, instead of roaming thru life like a herd of aimless sheep, then I'm all for it...

If I'm guilty of that..then so be it...
I am a scientist afterall...so if it makes
you feel better...join the legions of
Right Wing Christians bashing scientists..
its quite entertaining to me...better than

p.s. dylanfan....you should practice
"Reading" posts b4 u actually respond to
them...

btw...i have not yet bought the book..
whereas you, by your own admission
may have (unless u hv a copy frm the
library). I did see the movie, however,
and whilst i found the part of Silas
over the top (which is typical of any
hollywood villian) the rest of the movie
was pretty derned good (i would say
damned...but i dont want to give you any
extra ammunition)...oh hell, I just said
it...(yawns and waits for the lightning
bolt)...

Nope. Still alive...go figure?

But seriously...I was perhaps a little
out of line...and for that I appologize..
i tend not to take posts here too
seriously, and tend to stomp on other
people's posies from time to time...

I cant help it, its that Irish-German
American Mut blood mix....seriously, it outta be outlawed...

Vernon, usually you piss me off but today you are on a roll!

Posted by northguy3 at 2006-06-05 12:45 PM | Reply

Well, maybe tomorrow I can get back to pissing you off!

Actually, I taught church history at the college level for several years and this is one of my favorite topics. I'd always have a handful of 'true believers' from the Hal Lindsey crowd go ape shit on this.

But I would just lay out the factual, historical information, and show what church leaders said over the centuries. It goes all the way back to Augustine and Jerome.

Wikipedia has a good article on the Millerites, where the whole, pop version of the end of the world got started in the 1830s in upstate New York. If you've seen the episode of "the Simpsons" where they go to the mountain to wait for Jesus, it started with the Millerites (who are now called Adventists).

Jehovah's Witnesses -- and their printing presses -- spread these ideas worldwide. But aside from the Baptists, this is not a widely held view among the major denominations.

Oh, we really ought to give Hal Lindsey a marketing award. He's written the same book 43 times, and people still keep buying it.

He published "The Late Great Planet Earth" in 1972, and every book since then has been essentially the same material, reworked.

The beast plus sales tax: $699
The beast at Wal-Mart: $595
Operating System of the Beast: Version 6.6

Earth
Sorry if I reacted too strongly to what you said; I misread the context of it. I have this sort of love/hate thing for Dan Brown. If people approach him as just a fictional novelist, pulp fiction even, then I have no problem. But a lot of people (at least according to the news...fully a third of people) think that The Da Vinci Code is based on fact, and that bothers me both as a thinking person and as a Christian. I lump Brown in with the same fundies who scream "The end of the world is coming!!" and the people who believe Brown like Gospel as the same thoughtless people who think of the Left Behind series as Gospel.

At the same time, if you approach it as entertainment, it's not too bad. Horrible writing, but engaging fictional story line.

I also react pretty strongly when people act like a person can't be BOTH thoughtfully critical and a Christian. I was getting some of that from your post, though I can understand when you look at the way some Christians behave. Does more harm than good for the "image" of our religion.

By the way...my wife bought me the book a long time ago, so I guess I indirectly contributed to the hack, too.

Again, sorry for the overreaction.

ps-damn :)

Oh...and I just had to share one other thing in general. I saw this story on the local morning news while I was getting ready for work and the anchor said something along the lines of "The people in Hell will probably have a heck of a party since this date only comes around once in a millenia." Once in a millenia. *sigh*....

(almost sadder is I spent a full minute trying to figure out if there was some sort of discernable difference between June 6, 1906, and June 6, 1006/2006)

Hey DylanFan You have to uderstand that Anchor folks as well as "Journalists" aren't too bright IE Sean Hannity Bill O'Reilly Rush Limbaugh GERALDO

Larry

Corky,
The short answer is the best one: the key distinction of any Bible cult is that it's leader claims 'new revelation' or insight that no other believer has been privy to in the last 2,000 years.

If a Christian believes that Scripture is complete, then how does a farmer in upstate New York suddenly claim new information?

The cultist's claim is therefore inconsistent with Scripture. Therefore, you cannot trust anything else he has to say about Scripture.

So all this tribulation stuff started out as somebody's personal idea, and then he went to Scripture to try and selectively find verses to support it. You can take any mangy thing you want and twist a verse or two out of context to justify it.

That's why it's important to first look to the consensus body of apologetics, to see what others have written. Also read the dissent.

My favorite example of how far people distort Scripture in this context is "the Rapture."

The problem was that Christians had to get an escape route from "tribulation" but you couldn't have Jesus come back and fetch us, cuz that would be the 2nd Coming. So instead, people have concocted this thing about Jesus only getting to the clouds, and calling us up.

It's like Jesus pulls into the driveway and honks the horn, but won't come into the house to fetch us.

Drive-by Jesus!

Soooooo, back to the story, HELL, MI
been there. It's a small community north of Ann Arbor, they pretty much survive on t-shits and coffee mugs, with "witty" little slogans about "I've been to Hell and back" and I drove through Hell". Now CLIMAX, MI also a short ride from Ann Arbor...that's a whole nother story...

LOL!

Thanks, Vernon.

My sentiments exactly.

The Rapture requiring a THIRD Coming is pretty telling in itself.

If you read Timothy, Daniel and Ezekiel, you find references to the rapture. It isn't like some think, but it will happen. It isn't going to be Jesus pulling up in the drive way and honking, well maybe it will. He said," My sheep hear my voice and listen". The book of Revelation says clearly the one keeping the Anti- Christ from control will be removed from Earth. The one is Ruach HaKodesh-The Holy Spirit.Instead of criticizing the scriptures try READING THEM!!!!