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Friday, February 17, 2006

Kenedy County law officials said Thursday that no criminal charges will result from Vice President Dick Cheney's accidental shooting last week of an Austin lawyer, while the ranch owner insisted there was no cover-up. [Houston Chronicle]

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As it should be...for this particular incident...

Justice is swift in Texas at least...just so long as (I won't say it....).

Regards,
etc.

Minds are empty, heads are hollow.
You might find out the truth is hard to swallow.
There's a place down there, where heads are square.
Laws are tough, and you are bare.
There is a law and there is a lawman.
Who is the right, and who is the wrong man.

It doesn't take much to kill that guy.
Don't get in my face and ask me why...
Texas is the place.
HANG 'EM HIGH!!!!

Beers, steers, and queers.

Texas is full of women and willing,
Eyes too close, ...
Who are these people, raised in bars,
..., sex on farms.
Texas hoedown, this is the lowdown,
You're full of sh*t, destined to go down.

Let's go down, herd 'em up.
If you agree, then let's word 'em up.
And if you don't...
THEN SHUT THE F*CK UP.

Beers, steers, and queers.

Well, in any event I heard Cheney's buddy really had a blast!

H

There are already comparisons to Kennedy. Unfortunately for the President, this will be something that will follow him as additional baggage. When all is said and done, in maybe 10-30 years, I wonder how people will percieve how he handled the economy, inflated our government with pork and went to a war for reasons different than he stated and without a plan.

For Cheney, a person with low ratings already, people because of his peculiar actions, are curious if they are getting the entire story.

It is very rare for someone to shoot others in shooting mistakes. Also even more rare with a Secret Service detachment close by and working to ensure security 24/7.

What I find so amusing about this whole debacle is that the ones who continually whine about Kennedy's shenanigans the loudest don't seem to too interested in condemning and insinuating about Cheney for basically the exact same thing, (circumventing procedure and undermining the premise the rule of law is fair and impartial). I deem the undermining and manipulation of the legal system offensive regardless of party --- however I live by principle rather than just talk about it..

Whether Cheney was drinking or not, (its been established he had "beer" for lunch and stated by the ranch owner he had a "cocktail" after the shooting) the fact remains he was not held to the same standard as every other American is held too and in my opinion, since the rule of law underpins our society, compromises our society at its core! I fail to see how this is "good" for anyone who actually cares about this country and the beliefs that founded it.

I don't think the economy will get a heading. That is a common thread to all presidents and it'll have it's story.
Iraq and 9/11 will be headlines.

...its not a crime to shoot someone in Texas if you are drunk.........they have a name for it down there...they call it "Saturday Night"........

Cheney should go to the arcade if he wants to play shoot 'em up but you can't drink there so I guess that's out.

Add this to what's already happened this year and it Looks like 2006 is going to be a repeat of 2005 for BushCo.

A Hamas victory that took them by surprise -- "Who knew?!". A lame SOTU speech, WTF is switchgrass. Russia and China telling America to go to hell. Abu Ghraib resurfacing, Wiretap crime ongoing. Their own party slamming them for New Orleans - "Where's my guitar".

It's not yet tornado, flood or hurricane season either to give us another NOLA if Shirtoff's recent performances before Congress are anything to go by.

Dick Cheney's Top 10 Excuses for Shooting Hunting Companion Harry Whittington:

10. Sick and tired of Whittington's "Hey, I'm having a heart attack" jokes.

9. Pushed over edge by Dixie Chicks and Streisand blasting on pick-up truck stereo.

8. Ongoing dispute over whether it's acceptable to torture quail before shooting them.

7. Thought he saw Scooter Libby on other side of tree line.

6. Bombed out of his gourd on Wild Turkey and Lone Star Beer.

5. Companion's ill-advised decision to wear MoveOn.org sweatshirt.

4. Was trying to impress Jodie Foster.

3. Whittington's repeated ribbing that Bush is actually the "real president."

2. Targeting scope on shotgun was made by Halliburton.

And #1:

1. Because he's a wartime vice president, damn it!

"are curious if they are getting the entire story."

What more are you looking for? I get tired of the press asking questions that dont mean anything. I just saw the man who got shot on TV and he looks great. This was nothing more than what was said happened. Give it up please..

"This was nothing more than what was said happened. Give it up please.."

Yes, who cares if the law of the land is applied differently depending on who you know, what position you hold, etc.

It's the way the founding fathers envisioned and should not be anything to get excited about! It's just the underpinning of our society! Big whoop!

Principle --- again!

And the A1 excuse was: Whittington went all gay cowboy on him, and Dick couldn;t figure out any other way to quit him.

From what the public knows, he shouldn't be charged for the shooting. And I guess if the cops didn't push the issue of meetig with Cheney immediately, they can't claim obstruction.

But he definitely was given special concessions. A normal person is not allowed to shoot someone then tell the cops when he'll feel like talking to them. And I don't understand why he needed that special treatment if he were doing nothing wrong.

But "if you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide and nothing to worry about" only applies to the little guy should Bushco decide to spy on him without a warrant.

If the administration did it, it doesn't matter what it is, it's okay with Boaz.

Unfortunately for the President, this will be something that will follow him as additional baggage

I just watched Whittington address the Press outside of the hospital. He looks good for a man who was shot in the face. Some bruises but that's about it. If this guy had died, or was permanently crippled, then yeah I think it would be permanent baggage. But his situation doesn't appear to be that dire. He looked and sounded fine.

No, I think the real story here is that the White House press corps are spoiled brats who think they are entitled to break every story. Also, with all the idiotic conspiracy theories (Drunkeness, or Cheney's Lewinsky...) I think it shows that the Democrats of '06 have fallen to the level of the Republicans '98. There was a huge (and justified) backlash against the angry hatred of the Republicans then, Democrats should be worried about the same reaction now.

Just saw Whittington give his press conference on television. The right side of his face had at least 5 pellet marks on the cheek area and there was one round dark pellet mark on his right forehead. Unless they were moles or something. Cheney did really blast this guy in his face (and chest, and heart, and torso).

I read where there were anywhere from 5 to almost 200 pellets in his body.

Is anyone here really surprised to learn that Dick Cheney likes to get drunk and shoot stuff?

Come on, these are the same people who, when sober, think up schemes like the Project for the New American Century. Who dismiss Abu Ghraib torture as "just blowing off steam."

Violence is an inescapable and important part of their personality.

Arthur Miller has some very salient commentary about this shortly after 9/11. He said, in much better words, that when it comes to the President, Americans like a killer. Killing displays strength. Those who lack the will to kill lack the moral fortitude necessary in a President.

"We are deeply sorry for what Vice President Cheney had to go through this week," Whittington said, appearing emotional in front of television cameras.

"Accidents do and will happen," Whittington said, "and that's what happened."


And that's the end of that...

Come on, these are the same people who, when sober, think up schemes like the Project for the New American Century.

I love PNAC idiots... saves me so much time. As soon as I see some retard mention PNAC, I scroll to the next post, knowing that there is nothing of substance following that little acronym. Might as well talk about Elvis living on Pluto or something to that effect, at least it would be crazy entertaining, instead of crazy stupid.

"And that's the end of that..."

Yeah, you'll never have to hear about uncle Dickie's little accident again.

Riiiight.

Not as a scandal Sully... well at least not from anyone worth listening too. Angry Liberals will still cry and moan (shocking), but the most we'll hear about this now from any serious people will be in joking form. All your liberal BS is done.

ROB THE A HOLE

Have YOU ever read PNAC? Or at least the "PNAC Primer"? Seriously, have you? If not, google "PNAC primer" which is a shorter version of PNAC. EVERYTHING the Neocons plan on doing - invading Iraq, Iran is next, etc. is all down there in black and white and SIGNED by the Neocons. (Jeb Bush signed it but not George -- he is merely the useful shill for the Neocons).

You cannot say one single thing about PNAC unless you first have at least read the "PNAC Primer."

"Also, with all the idiotic conspiracy theories (Drunkeness....
Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2006-02-17 01:26 PM | Reply"

Please give us your reasoning here, A-Hole. Given that Cheney admits that he drank "a beer" at lunch, and avoided talking to authorities until much later, why is it completely inconceivable to you that alcohol was involved in this accident?

Please include in your analysis your thoughts about the two drunk driving convictions cheney has in his past.

"but the most we'll hear about this now from any serious people will be in joking form."

Yeah its funny. Most people laugh at the incredibly stupid instead of blindly condoning every assinine action they take.

Have YOU ever read PNAC? Or at least the "PNAC Primer"?

Yeah I've read it, I'm familiar with whose involved in it, read through the wikipedia reference to it, and been to this site quite frequently:
www.newamericancentury.org

You have to be at least familiar with PNAC if you are going to visit this site. I think it is a Drudge rule that if you are a liberal you have to mention PNAC in 33% of your posts or you are banned.

Arthur Miller has some very salient commentary about this shortly after 9/11. He said, in much better words, that when it comes to the President, Americans like a killer. Killing displays strength. Those who lack the will to kill lack the moral fortitude necessary in a President.

Posted by snoofy at 2006-02-17 01:30 PM | Reply

No, Arthur Miller was wrong. Americans don't like killers. Those of 9/11 that did this to the US are the killers. What Americans like is everything nice and quiet, go to work, come home, have dinner, go to the movies. Military personnel at camps and bases and not shooting at anything but practice targets.

That's what Americans like. What they don't like is having to kill killers. But, war is necessary from time to time. Killing isn't a sign of strength. Killing is a sign of "don't tread on me". It means "leave us the ____ alone."

The UN always asks the US to do the dirty work. So, as parents, we have to discipline the children every so often. The reason the US has spands of time were we're not killing anyone is when the stupid countries actually try to live peacably next to each other. Then Tommy pulls Jane's hair and Billy hits Johnny, and it starts all over again.

Please give us your reasoning here, A-Hole

Probably the fact that the Police aren't charging him with a crime (Drinking and hunting resulting in the shooting of another man would consist of a crime) and Whittington has said it was no more than an accident. Innocent until proven guilty, so you prove he had more than one drink.

Apply your love and admiration of the American Judicial System to more than just terrorists.

Was Cheney dizzy?

Yes Mr Cheney had one beer, and he should not have. The man is taking heart medication. I believe that he has angina. One beer could have dramatically effected him:

"Cardiovascular medications. This class of drugs includes a wide variety of medications prescribed to treat ailments of the heart and circulatory system. Acute alcohol consumption interacts with some of these drugs to cause dizziness or fainting upon standing up. These drugs include nitroglycerin, used to treat angina, and reserpine, methyldopa (Aldomet), hydralazine (Apresoline and others), and guanethidine (Ismelin and others), used to treat high blood pressure."

pubs.niaaa.nih.gov

Makes sense!

Chris in regards to PNAC though, yes the ideals and goals and aspirations they speak of are similar to actions taken by this administration, but then again, so to were actions taken by Clinton similar to ideals, goals and aspirations of say the Sierra Club or Green Peace. It doesn't mean that he is a puppet for those organizations. Barbara Boxer could easily be mistaken for a Chief officer of MoveOn.org, or Cindy Sheehan's long lost sister, it doesn't mean she is a puppet either.

The implication that there is some cabal of shadow forces neocons running this administration is silly and barely worth talking about. Which is why for all basic purposes, no one does except for ultra left wing libs.

Lets see the basic democrat posistion on this: accidently shoot a guy which gives him minor wounds, call the police within 2 hours (1:10), but dont talk to reporters for 14 hours=evil.

But withhold a suicide note written by a government official who just killed himself not only from the president but also the media for 30 hours and then the same person who withheld the note can then go public denouncing the 14 hour delay of telling the media is perfectly fine. Hell she can even be considered a canidate for president.

Or better yet another leader of the democrat party can take 8 hours before he goes to the police about the girl, now dead, still stuck in his car after he drunkingly drove off a bridge! But again thats fine.
Oh how the hypocrisy flows on the left side of the aisle.

Makes sense!

Posted by Manypaths at 2006-02-17 02:05 PM | Reply


Or, it was a hunting accident.

I just picked up on the Washington rumor mill that Tom Delay may have had something to do with the Sherriff's department closing the case on the Whittington shooting.

Pulling strings to protect the White House.

From what is the big question.......

Now "Tom Delay Homo Erotic Obsessive Disorder" is becoming a neo-lib epidemic.

I just picked up on the Washington rumor mill that Tom Delay may have had something to do with the Sherriff's department closing the case on the Whittington shooting.

Wow... simply wow.

I heard today that the real shooter was actually a Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb. I learned this through an imprisoned psychiatrist, Hannibal Lecter, who lead me and my attractive assistant Clarice Starling to his door. We asked him about the Vice President, to which he replied, "Oh, wait, was he a great big fat person?" Thankfully he is behind bars now.

I realize this is a far fetched theory, but its no less realistic than anything you crazy bastards have proposed.

Yes an accident caused by mixing heart medication and alcohol. He got out of the truck, (stood up fast) and was dizzy. Not thinking as clearly as he should. Thus this could have been avoided by him not mixing heart medication and alcohol. OR he is a careless retard.

I will continue to think that mixing medication and alcohol is probably more likely. He is not an idiot. He was just dizzy.

I will continue to think that mixing medication and alcohol is probably more likely. He is not an idiot. He was just dizzy.


or... it was a hunting accident.

I'm more concerned by the fact that Cheney told the investigating polices he had "executive privilege" and didn't need to talk to them.

What did he do in that 18 hours of delay (DeLay?) his obstruction of justice bought? Time to sober up? Time to cover his tracks and blackmail the victim of his murder attempt?

Since there wasn't a timely investigation, I suppose the country will never know.

What did he do in that 18 hours of delay (DeLay?) his obstruction of justice bought?

Uh, they notified the authorities almost immediately. If his 18 hour delay, as you call it, was obstruction of justice they'd charge him with it. If he broke any laws they'd charge him with it. He didn't, so they aren't.

Time to sober up?

No.

Time to cover his tracks and blackmail the victim of his murder attempt?

No.

It was just a hunting accident.

Rob the broken record.

Accidents have causes. Like your parents fucking for example.

Cheney for basically the exact same thing, (circumventing procedure and undermining the premise the rule of law is fair and impartial).

This is a lie....there was NO CIRCUMVENTING of proceedure...the sherrif was notified within TEN MINS of the shooting according to records.....its only the white house press that wasnt notified as soon as they think they are entitled to....they are also pissed that a little one town newspaper scooped them...


and there are more lies....huffington news reports that cheney was there having an affair...the only problem with that is the woman named WAS there...with her HUSBAND!!!!!!!!


more lies and inuendo

Not saying that Cheney commited a crime, he simply displayed poor judgement. He knowingly consumed alcohol while taking heart medication. He is very aware of the complications that can arise from mixing the 2, as detailed above. He went ahead and did it anyway, putting the lives of everyone around him at risk.

Yes, it was just an accident, but that does not mean that therre was no cause of the accident. In fact, could you please discribe an accident that had no cause?

The argument that there was no cause to the accident implies that Cheney was destined to shoot this man in the face that day no matter what he did. That just doesn't add up.

one beer.......how many of you get into a car and risk the lives of hundreds when you get behind the wheel after drinking a hell of a lot more...

the fact is that it was an accident and there were no proceedures not followed...again this is about the white house press and not some grand white house scandal.

and whittington had a press conference today on being released. I can read between the lines with what he said and to me it came out this way.......

to the white houese press....go fuck your...egotistical self

I love PNAC idiots... saves me so much time. As soon as I see some retard mention PNAC, I scroll to the next post, knowing that there is nothing of substance following that little acronym. Might as well talk about Elvis living on Pluto or something to that effect, at least it would be crazy entertaining, instead of crazy stupid.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2006-02-17 01:32 PM | Reply


That's what we call a two-way street, Rob. Some of your posts in this thread exhibit an inkling of credulity. The above is not one of them.

Next time you're chatting with Elvis, mention the 16 members of PNAC who are also Bush administration players. I'm not sure why you call it a "cabal of shadow forces" when it's the plain, God's honest truth: Neocons, particulary those of the PNAC variety -- Rumsfeld and Cheney and Wolfowitz and Perle -- are running this administration.

I am not on heart medication. One beer can effect those who are. Is it easier to comprehend if I break it down this much for you? Please let me know. I can draw you a picture if you think that would help.


"Cardiovascular medications. This class of drugs includes a wide variety of medications prescribed to treat ailments of the heart and circulatory system. Acute alcohol consumption interacts with some of these drugs to cause dizziness or fainting upon standing up. These drugs include nitroglycerin, used to treat angina, and reserpine, methyldopa (Aldomet), hydralazine (Apresoline and others), and guanethidine (Ismelin and others), used to treat high blood pressure."

Now describe an accident where there was no cause.

I have a question for everyone. What would happen if I went hunting with some friends and my hunting papers weren't up to date, I drank some beer and shot my friend in the face and then waited until the next day to report it. Would I be in jail facing charges right now?

There are already comparisons to Kennedy. Unfortunately for the President, this will be something that will follow him as additional baggage. When all is said and done, in maybe 10-30 years, I wonder how people will percieve how he handled the economy, inflated our government with pork and went to a war for reasons different than he stated and without a plan.

For Cheney, a person with low ratings already, people because of his peculiar actions, are curious if they are getting the entire story.

It is very rare for someone to shoot others in shooting mistakes. Also even more rare with a Secret Service detachment close by and working to ensure security 24/7.

Posted by Harrier at 2006-02-17 12:30 PM | Reply

And, no pun intended, it's just killin' the liberals that they can't beat their opponents on election day -- no matter what they whoop and holler.

Cricket:

Given the circumstances that the VP, witnesses, and Wittington described....you would not be in jail.

BTW: The VP did not wait to the next day to report it. The secret service reported the shooting to the Salinas police on Saturday afternoon...minutes after the shooting.

Cricket, I'd say there's a possibility you would be jailed for that, but on the whole, probably not. Really depends on a bunch of other things though, like were the cops out to get you in the first place for all sorts of other dumbshit stuff you've done, or if you're a rich VIP and the local constabulary don't see the why and wherefore of ruffling your feathers.

This is a weird story. I can't quite get a bead on what it's all about. It kinda reminds me of when Clinton fell down and hurt his knee; there was a lot of speculation in the media that booze or other drugs played a role in the mishap. This story, I think, is the same thing, just much larger, since there was a gun, and an innocent bystander nearly killed.

Also, I think it gets to the central hubris of the Iraq war, the concocted WMD claims, etc. All we hear from the White House and the dittoheads is how great everything is going... that got us through the election but the message is beyond shopworn now. And then here's Cheney, who stands by all the decisions he's made on supremely important matters of life and death, matters which affect the entire nation, who's convinced himself and so many others that what he did was right, by God, even if it was done for the wrong reasons... turns out wise old Mr. Cheney is just as fallible as the rest of us.

Of course he will come through this near-tragedy with an even firmer conviction in his faith, that's how the script plays, but for a little while there, for about a day after the VP had shot a man, he kinda seemed like he was teetering on the brink of maybe kinda pretending like it wasn't really a big deal and maybe kinda pretending it wasn't really his fault and that he's really basically incapable of doing anything wrong. A tiny crack in Humpty Dumpty's Beltway-buffered shell, from a secure location somewhere on a Texas ranch.

Failure to respond swiftly to unforseen crisis is the hallmark of Bush administration failures. They are at their best when they have a script to follow. They ran the PNAC playbook after 9/11 to a 90% approval rating. But when they're caught without a plan, as by Abu Ghraib, Katrina, Cindy Sheehan, and as epitomized by this accidental shooting, they waffle and cast about and insist that everything is going just fine, when it's plain as day that something is wrong as hell, and they just refuse to admit it.

"Accidents have causes."

Yes, like a hunter not letting another hunter know he was in the line of fire, and the other hunter not looking to see first hunter. It's called a mistake. Plain and simple.

What I have seen is this liberal media throwing out senarios on what happened and how they can make it sensational and trying to fit what happened to cheney to be sensational. It is despicable.

Move on bedwetters..no story here....

Cricket:

Given the circumstances that the VP, witnesses, and Wittington described....you would not be in jail.

BTW: The VP did not wait to the next day to report it. The secret service reported the shooting to the Salinas police on Saturday afternoon...minutes after the shooting.


Posted by lokisfur at 2006-02-17 05:48 PM


The SS told the police. When a sheriff came over to investigate, Cheney had someone tell him he would not speak to them, citing "executive privelege".

18 hours later, when they figured out "executive privelege" was a line of bullshit, they came back, and Cheney spoke with the investigator.

So. Was Cheney drunk, or did he shoot the guy in anger? Cheney was SO worried about his friend that he didn't go to the hospital at all, and a few hours after the shooting he was eating dinner with his friends. And shortly after that, he was so worried that he ran back to the White House to hide.

Cheney's story leaves more questions than answers, but unfortunately the "Liberal Media" doesn't seem to focus too much on questioning Republifundies.

I read this on one of the news sites... Think it was Fox though... The AP Mentioned the protesters too...

"Cheney, who was spending the weekend in his home state, remains popular in Wyoming. He received a loud ovation four years ago when he last addressed the legislature."

"About a dozen people waited outside the Capitol in subzero temperatures to protest Cheney's appearance Friday.
"

This is what this site is like... I have to giggle.... Cheney is inside the building...... The House is Packed.... getting a frigging STANDING OVATION.... But the twelve people out side.... Freezing their asses off..... Actually Believe that the Democrats and the Left have a shot....

Yeah, the yahoos in Wyoming are a real barometer of the American people. Amazingly, a poll of the kooks in Midland, Texas showed 95% of people support King George.

Check out this link for a taste of Bashthis's world:

www.campchaos.com

Move on bedwetters..no story here....

Posted by boaz at 2006-02-17 06:15 PM

Don't interrupt Boaz! Let them rant. I am enjoying this.

Move on bedwetters..no story here....

Posted by boaz at 2006-02-17 06:15 PM

Don't interrupt Boaz! Let them rant. I am enjoying this.

Posted by eberly at 2006-02-17 07:15 PM | Reply

Like Roy Orbison's hit song...

It's over. It's over. It's over.

It's ooooooooooooover!

1. I'd think you'd be happy to see a Republican being shot.

2. To all those pretty, talking-head, DC Whitehouse reporters:
If you are so fascinated with reporting shooting incidents, Bob Woodruff will be glad to give you an itinerary to Iraq.

1. I'd think you'd be happy to see a Republican being shot.

2. To all those pretty, talking-head, DC Whitehouse reporters:
If you are so fascinated with reporting shooting incidents, Bob Woodruff will be glad to give you an itinerary to Iraq.

Those pretty DC reporters resent any story that doesn't originate at the center of the universe, Washington,DC.

They can always take the "Bob Woodruff Iraq Sightseeing Tour" if they feel isolated from the real world.

I felt safer when America had a president who enjoyed blowjobs. A de facto president who shoots people in the face freaks me out.

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