Man, they didn't show THAT on ShrubTV. I might have stayed awake more than 30 minutes of the 'same-old same-old' about Iraq.

lock her up, throw away the keys, and weld the doors shut. she's a spiteful bitch.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Hurray For Cindy SHeehan. Good on Her. You go Girl.

Larry

Coooooooooooool. Even better would be to see the Democrats turn their backs on the bastard in unison.

lock her up, throw away the keys, and weld the doors shut. she's a spiteful bitch.

Posted by richarcm at 2006-01-31 10:07 PM


Yah, her son was killed protecting the Yellow-Bellied Cowards (TM) OIL FUTURES (yeah, nicEVILle, YEAH!!) and SHE is the spiteful one.

Better still would be for them all to turn their backs on him at the same time-with various signs calling him a liar-a cheater-and, criminal....

Bush's SOTU speech was pretty good.

And now the Dem is talking--he has the same points as Bush--Redux!


All together now--Poooooooooorrrr Cindy!

If she runs against Feinstein--I will have to vote for Dianne--first time ever--

Better yet--I'll go register as a Republican.


Murphy

what did she think she was going to do....walk in there and protest....and nobody would think that she might pull some stunt...well we not only saw the state of the union but the state of sheehan

Better yet--I'll go register as a Republican.


Murphy

Posted by MURPHY at 2006-01-31 10:26 PM | Reply


I am sure they would welcome You with wide open arms. You will fit right in.

Larry

dmbell73-Are you saying they made her the 51st State?

I'm embarrassed about the ridiculous Democratic response given by Virginia governor Kane. Who was the idiot who thought that would be a good idea??

Coooooooooooool. Even better would be to see the Democrats turn their backs on the bastard in unison.

Posted by bayviking at 2006-01-31 10:23 PM


Yeah, BV, did you see the way the Rethugs were jumping around like a bunch of monkey bitches and the dems sat quietly for 30 mins during the tired old BO-RING Iraq talking points? Definitely a back turn would've made quite a statement.

Or, they shoulda put Cindy in a chair and paraded her around the floor like in a Jewish wedding!! LOL!!

I don't know-but they should all be replaced-with REAL Dems for a change-not these damned "Stealth" rethugs we've had foisted on us......

frank...it goes to show you...what the dems are all about....how are the dems suppose to gain respect and power when they pull stunts like this....and anybody with a brain knew she was going there to be a disruption...that was nor the time or place

I'm embarrassed about the ridiculous Democratic response given by Virginia governor Kane. Who was the idiot who thought that would be a good idea??

Posted by GZlives at 2006-01-31 10:30 PM | Reply

=======

HEY!! "Theres a better way" Dont forget!

GZ--

What's the scoop on Hamas and Isreal lately? I read your posts that other day after the election--you seem to have points that are not in print.

I guess the main point might be that elections do show in the light. Since Hamas is so unlikely to deliver anything with their rhetoric--no aid no help no jobs and more unrest--maybe their election victory will be short-lived.

Fatah isn't much better.

I give them less than a year and they'll be out.

What that brings will hopefully be better.

Murphy

You're right about that not being the time or the place-she should have waited til the dunderhead was yappin' and had camereas on hthe gallery she was sitting in.
Better Yet-the Dems Should have Invited her sit with them-Quietly-while dumbya stewed and stammered in his own juices....

Yah, her son was killed protecting the Yellow-Bellied Cowards (TM) OIL FUTURES (yeah, nicEVILle, YEAH!!) and SHE is the spiteful one.

========

it was his choice to be a part of such a military. if you join the military, you are giving your life. most people before the war ignored that to reep benefits and to avoid education. now that they actually have to serve, they are bitter. That is what they signed up for.

And yes she's spiteful. She's let Osama run America just to make a statement. She's as much of an American hater as anyone.

Frankf55:
"Better still would be for them all to turn their backs on him at the same time-with various signs calling him a liar-a cheater-and, criminal...."

Or even better than that, signs on thier backs that say "we surrender Iraq and are on our way to Barebutt Mountain.

And yes she's spiteful. She's let Osama run America just to make a statement. She's as much of an American hater as anyone.

Posted by richarcm at 2006-01-31 10:38 PM | Reply


That would be DUbya who has allowed Osama to "run" America. NOT Cindy Sheehan do so try yet again please.

Larry

.....Hillary's mug, shown at her most idiotic point ever...priceless.

Barebutt Mountain.

Posted by 2ndCrusade at 2006-01-31 10:38 PM | Reply


TMI 2nd...

Anyone know how the Enron trial is going??

I heard they picked a jury in record time--these guys should get 20 years a piece.


Murphy

.....Hillary's mug, shown at her most idiotic point ever...priceless.

You talking about when Bush was lieing through his teeth about wire taps? Yep, her look was priceless - said all that needs to be said to "I didn't do anything any other President hasn't done!" What a HOOT! She knew good and well what Bush was saying was a lie.

Larry--Cindy is running the Dem party--or at least making every attempt --and she is being used by the most worse of people--like Chavez.

She needs a history lesson on how many deaths were under the Communist regimes of the past. She might learn something...

Murphy

I heard they arrested her not for trespass on the chambers but for trespass on the eyes.

They are going to give her that face-transplant surgery with a Rottweiler so she can be easier to look at.

H

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Murphy more of the same baseless Bushite tripe. Least You are consistant. that is for sure.

Larry

Yav,

Yeah, what was that about 200 personal FBI files?

That would be DUbya who has allowed Osama to "run" America. NOT Cindy Sheehan do so try yet again please.

Larry

=====

oh thats right. the clinton admin had practically cured us of him. duh

THE HEADLINE IS NOT TRUE

Read the story. She didn't unfurl an anti-war banner. She WORE AN ANTI-WAR TEE SHIRT. Big difference.

Shame on misleading headlines.

Who had a program Yav called Echelon?

THE HEADLINE IS NOT TRUE

Read the story. She didn't unfurl an anti-war banner. She WORE AN ANTI-WAR TEE SHIRT. Big difference.

Shame on misleading headlines.

==========

Thats the name of the media....shameful. You just now noticing that? Or is it that its against a democratic voice? HMM?

From this article:

"An early report from a [Republican] senior House official indicated that Sheehan was arrested for unfurling an anti-war banner, but that was later found not to be the case. Schneider said she didn't know what Sheehan's T-shirt said."

Thats a silly ? to ask CalifChrisformerRepublican Rich, you may want to rephrase it.

She showed up.
She was arrested.
Where's Osama?

Yav, what about all those FBI files?

If the shirt she was wearing had a "pro war" saying would she have been arrested? It gives a clear indication of the direction our country is heading when a person is arrested for free speech in the U.S. Capitol.

RICHARCM:

Thats the name of the media....shameful. You just now noticing that? Or is it that its against a democratic voice? HMM?

Nope. I don't like the media putting out untruths - no matter which side does it. All you had to do was take 5 seconds to read this story and you would know that this headline was misleading.

And yes she's spiteful. She's let Osama run America just to make a statement. She's as much of an American hater as anyone.

Posted by richarcm at 2006-01-31 10:38 PM | Reply


Dude, I already knew you were Yellow-Bellied Nazi (TM), but you are seriously out there. Remember, Joseph Goebbels was a propagandist too, and he ended up shooting himself in the head and poisoning his three kids.

Cindy has something good going for her. She had Feinstein and Boxer backing away from her!!! They were actually afraid of her, which is a good thing. I wish there were two Cindys. One for Boxer and one for Feinstein.

In fact, I have an idea. Some of you Lefties on this board should run for office and really take the wind of the Dem..., I mean, really give a push to Democratic process.

Anyway, Feinstein will be sleeping well tonight.

"Yav, what about all those FBI files?"

That was cool too.

(Is that not your implicit point?)

She showed up.
She was arrested.


Where's Osama?

Posted by zatoichi at 2006-01-31 10:52 PM

Zat, you didn't see that little receiver in Dear Leader's ear?

Nope. I don't like the media putting out untruths

I'm with you CalifChris, I wish that the mainstream media would focus on at least one good thing happening in Iraq. I mean, our boys are truly pissed off by the way the media are reporting bad things about them. They are helping build and protect schools and other public facilities and this is how their fellow Americans treat them? Hmmm...

Actually --Cindy tried to take off her tee shirt to use as an unfurled banner--

That's why she was arrested..


Murphy

It took Bush almost 40 MINUTES into his boring same old crap speech tonight to even MENTION what he might do for Americans. Bush is NOT an American, he is a corporatist and globalist. He has no concern for Americans and only uses us, our military, and our Treasury for his globalist agenda. 40 MINUTE BEFORE BUSH EVEN TALKED ABOUT AMERICA!

"I mean, our boys are truly pissed off by the way the media are reporting bad things about them."

Coder, you're in the military? I really had no idea.

That would be DUbya who has allowed Osama to "run" America. NOT Cindy Sheehan do so try yet again please.

Larry

Larry, while you were asleep and not on watch guarding the country, the bombings started. Americans and others were killed for years. Osama was out there front and center in the 1990's. Hitting us way back when you know. Sheehag is just a mere moment in history and liberal leeches are going to suck her dry to every last drop. You sir, I regret to say because your good Doctor likes you, are a political hack.

...Yeah CC and you're a former republican too.

bwhahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually CC--he spoke about King's wife who passed on first--I think that was 30 seconds into the speech to talk about America.

Murphy

DKIA then where is Osama?? Why isn't DUbya really interested in catching Him(He said so Himself) Why is dubya still on this Iraq War business when it never has attacked Our Soil ?? WHy DKIA aren't You on Dubyas ass about it Hmmmmmmmmmm wonder why Hmmmmmmmmmm

Larry

CC untruths, do we need to dig up the responses you made about the rather lies?

Ya but, ya but ya but the story is still true.

Bwhahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know you are a former republican.

JMFJ

I truly am a former Republican. I think for myself and am not one of the sheeple and nor is kool-aid my favorite drink. So even though I am fairly conservative, I refuse to be led by a warmongering Neocon who with his corrupt mob has hijacked the Republican party. If you had any conjones, you and other Republicans would try to get it back to what it once was. As for not liking Republican kool-aid, and you all were drinking Black Russians or Southern Comfort instead.....well, who knows.

Coder, you're in the military? I really had no idea.

Posted by Boyd at 2006-01-31 11:00 PM


No, he's a way low PC hack and his hero Sean Hannity told him the boys are pissed.

I know you are a former republican.

Posted by JMFJ at 2006-01-31 11:04 PM |

Well, at least you got something right tonight.

Ekes, the sheehags titties unfurled, good GOD. Mickey Moore may dig those utters but your god Doctor is going to go Ralph.

On second thought, that may be utterly ridiculous.

Larry,

Bush keeps saying Osama is in a cave. Yeah, right. He and his second in command have their own production studio, produce clips with Arabic and English subtitles, and do it in just a matter of days, etc. etc. Sure, they're all in some cold, musty cave. Riiiiight. hahahahahahahaha

CalifChris Dubya is a thorough disgrace. I don't see how anyone can keep on supporting this loser. Maybe it's pity You know they feel sorry for Him being a post turtle and all. Worst President Ever.

Larry

DKIA

Nothing "unfurled," you nut. Her teeshirt had an anti-war slogan on it and she was sitting in the visitor's section and the Bushies threw her out. The Republicans AGAIN LIED and put out that she unfurled some kind of banner. What??? Republicans LIE??? hahahahahahah

Osama was out there front and center in the 1990's. Hitting us way back when you know.

Really, DrNoNutsAtALL?? And all through the 80s we were sending him and the Taliban lawyers guns and money to fight off the Russkies in Afganistan.

So what's your point you Yellow-Bellied Coward (TM)?

Bush keeps saying Osama is in a cave. Yeah, right. He and his second in command have their own production studio...

Chris, you forgot "built and operated by Halliburton, Inc..."

It would be the biggest upset in a century but don't be surprised if Sheehan gives Feinstein a run for her money. People like our other Senator, Barbara Boxer, but Feinstein has sided with Chinese shipping against our striking dockworkers, her husband is deeply invested with his own companies in China (there go more American jobs) and she has done a few other things -- LIKE VOTING FOR THAT DISASTER PRESCRIPTION DRUG PLAN OF BUSH'S (which passed by only 2 votes, one being Feinstein's) -- so Feinstein better not get too comfortable in her seat. She's pro big business/anti-average guy and not a real Democrat.

Uncle Larry, your good Doctor finds it difficult to respond to anyone that lacks the cerebral mentality to differentiate between upper and lower case. It's like communicating with Zimbabwe bush men.

Smack your lips together and say the following.
pooowkppoowkmuukmuukdingmuklin
gpotding

pro big business/anti-average guy

So, CCformerRepublican, lets kick all big business out of the US, it is evil after all.

Keep it up its why the dems cant win.

Oh so DKIA doesn't have anything Intellectualy STimulating to say. Quite Typical.

Larry

I saw that movie DKIA, LOL, hope all is well.

...and FVZzzzzz, sounding just like Air America.

Bwhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If your fat enough does an anti war t shirt count as a banner.

Sheehag is human garbage.......She is getting fat off the pus of leftist scum like Larry Moron.......This sick pigs 15 minutes were up long ago.........



This wretched cannibal should let her son rest in peace, instead of humiliating and denigrating his name for her own self promotion.......


What a sick farce.....

Zat:
She showed up.
She was arrested.
Where's Osama?


Maybe Osama say a good plastic surgeon, yea thats it Cindy is Osama, we got him.

Well, the rethugs screwed the pooch on this one... looks like Cindy is going to file a civil lawsuit against the federal gov't for violating her first amendment rights tonight.

Quite the thorn in the rethug side, eh?

"Let us never forget the sacrifices of America's military families." (applause) -- George W. Bush, State of the Union, Jan. 31, 2006

What's a woman to do...

Drknowitall:
Uncle Larry, your good Doctor finds it difficult to respond to anyone that lacks the cerebral mentality to differentiate between upper and lower case. It's like communicating with Zimbabwe bush men.

Smack your lips together and say the following.
pooowkppoowkmuukmuukdingmuklin
gpotding



Now that was good, Ive been laughing my ass off since I read that.

JMJF=='J'izm 'M'y 'F'avorite 'J'uice

Drink a toast to cupid...

Bwhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really, DrNoNutsAtALL?? And all through the 80s we were sending him and the Taliban lawyers guns and money to fight off the Russkies in Afganistan.

So what's your point you Yellow-Bellied Coward (TM)?

Posted by FVZ

FVZ you ignorant slut, you are so right. Throughout our history and all other countries histories not so friendly countries have been supported that were fighting a country of a greater threat. Are you that much a moron, have you not studied history.

You can call me a coward, FVZ, when I retire from the military in a couple of years I will look back on it with pride and sense of accomplishment. Liberals like you FVZ shit on military service, but I can say I have done more in some of the most GOD forsaken places to make this a better world than you have. Schools, hospitals, daycare. Also, being and expert, I have been volunteered for hurricane clean three times. That really sucked.

Please tell us a story of the good you have done for your county or another countries.

well she broke the house rules...if it was pro or anti it doesnt matter....as they arrested her they annouced why...seems fair to me...she was told..she knew the rules she broke them...she has to pay

STD:
"Well, the rethugs screwed the pooch on this one... looks like Cindy is going to file a civil lawsuit against the federal gov't for violating her first amendment rights tonight."

So what! ROTFLMAO, and I guess thats ensures the Dems rise to power.

"Actually --Cindy tried to take off her tee shirt to use as an unfurled banner--

That's why she was arrested..


Murphy"


They were TERRIFIED her pooch flaps would unfurl along with it.

H

FVZ, you from broke back mountain? Why is that the left always has jiz on the mind?

...and you must be dislexic, I hope you and all your loser friends Untie?

Bwahahahahaha

Sheefilth was just sucking Chavez dick in Venezuala, he could have infected her iwth some disease to kill a member of the senate, congress, and maybe the president....Sheehog should be locked up and tryed for treason and sedition.....And the this fucknut congressman should never be allowed anywhere near the President again.....

Damn, I was hoping for a ZEITLING STRIKE to nail this filthy thread.

Now clear the room while the bodies are toe-tagged and bagged...

H

HAHAHAHA!! The REAL DrNoNutsAtAll finally stands up!! I really got your goose havent I? It's about time you showed your feathers you fascist cock swallower.

All who have endured ridicule on this site from NoNutsAtAll, take heed, the soft white underbelly is exposed... and presented for you is the ever so sensitive button to set the tough guy off.

The Good Doctor has spoken. LOL!!!

P.S. lets start calling this cow what she really is.....A terrorist covorting with other terrorist, intent on harming America.....'Peace activist' is laughable.......

Wow, it is amazing FVZ with your inability to post with out JIZ, Cock, and swallowing you pussy homo.

H......I am too tired tonight to get really worked up.....Maybe tommorrow I will have enough strenght to unleash a proper salvo of disdain and disgust......

Dr. KIA, it seems you have found a homo stalker.......

..who also likes feathers, and is dislexic.

FZV is the scourge of our country. Damn, what a scary moonbat. Anyhoot how bout a joke

Top Five Thing Men Would Do If They Woke Up With a Vagina for a Day...

5. Immediately go shopping for zucchini and cucumbers.
4. Squat over a hand-held mirror for an hour and a half.
3. See if it's truly possible to launch a ping pong ball 20 feet.
2. Get picked up in a bar in less than 10 minutes ... BEFORE closing time.
1. Finally find that damned G-spot.

Whore-ass!! Back for his nightly beating. Too ignorant to know he's been horse whipped. Shame.

Sorry Cindy ruined your GLORIOUS State of the Reichstag Address tonight, fellers, judging by all the rethug posts of hate for a Silver Star Mother, she's really spoiled your party.

Woooohooooo!!! You GO GIRL!!!

Rex:
"Sheefilth was just sucking Chavez dick in Venezuala, he could have infected her iwth some disease to kill a member of the senate, congress, and maybe the president....Sheehog should be locked up and tryed for treason and sedition.....And the this fucknut congressman should never be allowed anywhere near the President again....."

ROTFLMAO
An attempt on life of a sitting Pres, good job guys.

Wow, it is amazing FVZ with your inability to post with out JIZ, Cock, and swallowing you pussy homo.

Posted by JMFJ at 2006-01-31 11:48 PM


What, no "Bwahahahah???"

You must be slippin. Or maybe your mouth was busy with something else.

FUZZY -- WUZ-HE?

You certainly get the "I'm Brainstem Injured, I Feel No Pain" award!

You have never layed a glove on me fuzzywuzzy. But you don't have to be here as a Rhodes scholar to instinctively know that.

H

Well, this might not help her Senate campaign if she's on a list of folks now who aren't allowed on Capitol Hill.

Might be just what we need, though--always thought a government that stayed away from Washington would be the best kind. I still probably won't contribute to her campaign, though.

FZV wishes he was a girl, the homo.

FZV wishes he was a girl, the homo.

Zeit & JMFJ, a militant homo like FVZ is just riding high on the so called success of Barebutt Mountain. He will soon fall, not on a stiffy but reality.

...dislexic.

hahahahahahwB!!!!!!!!!

Drknowitall:
Top Five Thing Men Would Do If They Woke Up With a Vagina for a Day...

5. Immediately go shopping for zucchini and cucumbers.
4. Squat over a hand-held mirror for an hour and a half.
3. See if it's truly possible to launch a ping pong ball 20 feet.
2. Get picked up in a bar in less than 10 minutes ... BEFORE closing time.
1. Finally find that damned G-spot.


Shit I'm laughing so hard I'm crying, I havent cryed since I was 4.

No matter what one's political views, DKIA has every right to be proud of his military service in the Navy, just as the rest on here do, whether they are in the service now, or had served before. Leave the one's being in the military out of our fights about Bush.

There's this dyslexic guy--he walks into a bra...

(Mao joke)


Murphy

I actually saw that ping pong feat performed at a bachleor party. Maximum distance was about 8-10 feet.

Rex,

I sensed you're holding back. I know you have it in you. Tell us what you really feel!

Regards,
etc.

FZV's not a bright man, momma used to tell him life is like a box of New Oleans Chocolate. You never know what you are going to get but toss out the whitties just in case.

I'd just like to say how utterly revolting it is that this sheeho-bag woman refuses to let her sons memory rest in peace. but instead she uses it for her own political agenda. yes, we know your son died in the war, now get on with your friggin' life, woman. everyone that joins the military knows that there is a chance that they may never come home. it's not like she didnt know. all this loathesome bag of smashed assholles is accomplishing is giving larry more-or-less and the rest of the leftist un-american pukes something more to complain about.

Whore-ass, someday you will realize that people are laughing AT you, not with you. You are just NOT funny. Up until now, we've just kinda accepted you for your ignorance.

Sorry, but someone had to tell you.

I actually saw that ping pong feat performed at a bachleor party. Maximum distance was about 8-10 feet.

Posted by 2ndCrusade

Thailand, maximum distance 25 feet. Blow darts were better and more accurate. Those girls were excellent shots.

FZV's not a bright man, momma used to tell him life is like a box of New Oleans Chocolate. You never know what you are going to get but toss out the whitties just in case.

Posted by drknowitall at 2006-02-01 12:06 AM

BAHHHAAHA.. you so funny DrNoNutsAtAll, tell us again how many decks you scrubbed in the Navy? Soap on a rope the commodity? And what was that joke about having a vagina? Couldn't find your own G-spot let alone your momma's? Hoot-hoot... your gonna make 2ndCrusade piss his pants.

Wait, they're already wet from the last Al Queso release.

someday you will realize that people are laughing AT you, not with you.

Wow, how ironic that FZV posted this.

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You militant homo.

There he goes again, soap on a raop, the militant homo.

FVZ you ignorant, uneducated, self depriving and humorless slut. Horace's sense of humor is beyond your meager comprehension mainly because you do not understand him. Ignorance is bliss FVS, sleep well sunshine.

Well, I'd love to stay here and chat with the founding fathers of the Yellow-Bellied Coward (TM) club, but I'll leave you all to circle jerk in hatred memory of Cindy's victory over your party.

Don't take it so hard, fellers, she's got bigger balls than all of you combined.

I am tired Regards.....I am sick as a dog......I need a good vacation where I do nothing but sleep for a week.......Then I can start spitting fire balls at scum like Sheetrash again........

FZV, you are ignoring the big question. What have you contributed to society. Nothing. Are you a big bother, served in the military, do you read to kids at school? Nothing. You are a worthless but good useful idiot to Liberals.

Circle jekr? The little homo just cat'n help himself/herself.

"but I'll leave you all to circle jerk in hatred memory of Cindy's victory over your party"

Hahahahahahhahahahahhahahaha, I can now go to sleep with a smile. Thanks FVZ!!

I see the moonbat righties are here in FARCE, ya know-it really is too bad about these guys-they come here to a liberal blog and bitch because we have opinions, try to ridicule us, and do their little monkey dance to show duhhhbya how much they LOOOOOOVE the rethug brand kool-aide.
If ever there was a bunch of self-deluded asswipes who deserved the pResident they got-it's them. When they got nuthin' else-they jibe and insult-even "You Good Doctor" My only question is-good for what? a laugh at your rediculous posings? A guffaw at the twisted and tortured logic you guys use to justify your support of a PROVEN liar and confessed Criminal?
Physician-HEEL thyself.......
(Dance Monkeys-Dance)

Sheehan is accomplishing not one noble thing. Her son must roll over in his grave every time she opens her mouth. SHe disrespects this country and its military personnel including her sons memory.

zeitgiest,
Vacation?
Might I suggest Iraq?

Hey Frank, you old (and Imean old ) cleft palated, fecal freak.......You somehow loosened the straps and got access to the computer again huh?.......Good for you, old twat!

Its entertaining how you say that there isn't any evidence to back our cause, when yous is built on lies and media bias and propaganda

that last comment was directed at frank55

Jeff-to quote "Get Your War On"-"Darfurnately"......

frank55, i bet you wet your bed until highschool. you sympathetic neo hippie

There's plenty of evidence to back the righties' cause-and if we ever manage to get our hands on it-they're ALL goin' to Prison.......

Zeitgiest

Hope you feel better. Also hope it's not the bird flu.

walnuthill,
So now you're speaking for a dead soldier?
Wow, you must be gods chosen son.
I guess that's why you know better than his own mother what he would think.

PROVEN liar and confessed Criminal?

How did Clinton get in this thread?

Bwhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait, I meant how did Kerry get in this thread, he did by the way say he committed those war crimes and attrocities, after all.

Thanks Chris.........I quite fucking chickens last year......So I should be ok......

Walnutshrill-what you got asswipe? more insults? And I'm no "neo-hippie" I was the REAL thing baby!

quit*

Uh, Jeff, he re-enlisted, knowing full well what he was getting into, oh you forgot that?

Hang in there Rex. The show must go on but there'll be another one in a week or so when you are up and at it again.

Did you see the Google blog I put up? Nasty. They failed to "wildly exceed" expectations and promptly lost 16% of their market valuation.

We are at the top of the roller coaster.

Regards,
etc.

P.S. Cindy? An outrageous lack of respect for the occasion and the location. She is free to voice her opinion in an orderly protest. It's her right. In the House on the occasion of the SOTU address, she has made her point by simply attending and then taking her talking points to the inevitable media scrum afterwards.

...which means Jeff, his mother had no clue what his thoughts were.

You can get arrested for wearing a shirt??

Sweet! Hail America! Land of the Free ... er no wait ...

Never mind.

Kerry,
3 purpal hearts and a gold star.
What did Dubya get in the war?
Oh that's right nothing, because he dodged it.

Kerry,
3 purple hearts and a gold star.
What did Dubya get in the war?
Oh that's right nothing, because he dodged it.

Frankie, i am not the prodigal son, but i can speak for everyone young and old, including myself who has been in the military that i have ever met. her son died for a cause and for her to go completely against that cause is to logically say that she thought her son was wrong.

Where's Osama? where are the WMDs even the CIA said weren't there? Ever read the Downing Street Memo? Didn't duhhhbya say it ALWAYS takes a warrant for wiretapping After he ordered warrantless wiretapping?
jDidn't he say he ordered warrantless wiretapping-which-BTW is a crime?
You boys and your Clinton Deflections-nice try though-although it is beginning to get like shooting fish in a barrel....

Yea.....I have been wating like a vulture for them to report and 'disappoint', only a 82% increase in profits last quarter..........How terrible....I plan on picking up a quick 4-5 hundred off of Google tomorrow......A one day stop and shop......

self admitted war criminal, self inflicted wounds, did not refute a thing that people who served with him said, shot a kid in the back, whoooo boy.

Good luck!

Regards,
etc.

Franky, can you say Syria? Try it once.

frank, btw, where's your insult?

it was his choice to be a part of such a military. if you join the military, you are giving your life. most people before the war ignored that to reep benefits and to avoid education. now that they actually have to serve, they are bitter. That is what they signed up for.

And yes she's spiteful. She's let Osama run America just to make a statement. She's as much of an American hater as anyone.

Posted by richarcm at 2006-01-31 10:38 PM | Reply

walnutshrill-she knew that young man a whole lot better than you did dipshit-she raised him-all you got is rethug talkin' points-and for the record-she has every right to question the veracity of the EXCUSES the rethugs use to justify the wanton slaughter of our troops as well as the slaughter and torture and rape and kidnapping of innocent civilians, now as a rethug-I know your illogic tells you she's being unpatriotic-but-as usual-since all you got is rethug talkin' points-you can stop dancin' monkey....

Frank, if asswipe is the best you can do, you have come to a battle of the wits unarmed.

Thanks....I am over 1/3 of the way back from the 'DARK WEEK'........hopefully tomorrow I can close (carefully) the gap a little more.......

A battle of wits????? What-did you get yours in your daily dose of rethug brand kool-aide?

Frank, i know you can type, but all i see is "blah, blah, the other grass is greener, blah, blah." dipshit doesnt begin to describe it. let loose a whole string of expletives followed buy a noun and you think its an insult. come on an bring your A-Game

Franky, your argument may have been valid except he RE-FUCKING-ENLISTED!!!!!!!!!!!
!

Frankie, Ahhhh yes, the standard "rethug kool-aide" retort. i prefer hiram walker, thanks

...you dipshit!!!!!!!

How many people here were in the military?

self admitted war criminal, self inflicted wounds, did not refute a thing that people who served with him said, shot a kid in the back, whoooo boy.

No one that served on his boat said anything like that you sick bastard.

My A-game? You are kidding aren't you? I'm not getting into a purile pissing contest with rethug retard.
I'll tell like I told someone else on another thread-if you want to have a battle of wits-it helps if you bring something other than talking points. To win you have to outsmart your opponent. In your case I wouldn't suggest getting into a battle of wits with more than 2 dead mosquitoes-they'll outhink you every time-collectively....

JMFJ-

I personally can't stand John Kerry. You, however, are vermin.

Zeitgeist -

Forgot to mention, in my link above, at the very top in red is "Financial News." Click on that and you'll find a ton of sources.

Oh wait boyd, you mean boats that were in oh say 30 40 feet were not serving with him? You mean Kerry was lying when he said what he did? If so you are as sick as you think I am you sick bitch.

Cheers

Frank, i have yet to hear one valid point from you. The fact remains that we're over there, and to not support them and our commander in chief is, by definition, un patriotic. can you argue with webster's you fucking penis leach?

You boyd are a pussy.

and its a loose, flop in the wind kind of pussy boyd, the crack whore kind of pussy.

JMFJ-
You smear a vet for partisan kicks.

...and spout at me like a petulant adolescent.

Screamin sheehan got put in the clink huh? Hag.

I don't have to support dumbass duhhbya to support the troops-and I would submit that after My Enlisting in the Army during the Vietnam war-and being willing to go wherever they sent me-YOU have no more right to question my patriotism than the deserter-in-chief-phuck you very much.

Rightback, yep and deserved more if you ask me.

Boyd,

No one forced Kerry to admit to committing attrocities that by the very definition were war criminals, he fucking smeared himself and then thru someone elses medals/ribbons on the lawn after meeting in france with the enemy. I do not have smear him, he fucked himself over.

*war crimes*

I have every right to question you patiotism. as referenced before. you are unpatriotic, by definition. me:1 you:0

As far as my posts-they are ALL valid-unless I'm trying to be funny. I don't come here to impress anyone-even a dumbya licker like you.

JMFJ-
If you have any sense of shame you will one day regret your venom.

Frank, I'm still waiting on that witty retort

Why is it unpatriotic to call a liar and criminal a liar and criminal?

I did not committ war crimes, or throw someone elses medals away boyd, Kerry did.

Nothing at all Frank, and Clinton deserves it.

Frank, BTW, why is it that the only insult that you spew from that orifice that you call a mouth references the Prez. is that the only grounds that you have you insult anyone on? their political ties?

JMFJ-
OK. As long as you question a man in battle. What battles have you fought?

walnutshill-I've grown weary of your blather-whether I ma patriotic or not is immaterial-your definition differs from mine in that I am loyal to my Country-you however-have thrown away not only your loyalty but also your honor in a foolish attempt to prop up a criminal regime-you are an irrelevent fleaspec.

By the way frank. why do you come here? its obvious that you are a couple nothes below average on the intellectual totem-pole

See boyd you would like to make this about me, and it is not. Kerry in his own words admitted to committing attrocities which were and are war crimes. Address that, not what I have or have not done.

"JMFJ-
If you have any sense of shame you will one day regret your venom."


Boyd, would you lease be more specific?

First, what "venom"?

Thanks, Horace

Frank, i didnt question your patriotism. you brought it into question. i was speaking of sheeman and you brought me off topic. by the way, that is the subject of this forum, right?

Boyd, JM is right. Hasn't Kerry admitted many things that caused him & the country shame?

Gratefully, Horace

Jmfj-
You seem quick to judge a man that has been shot at in service to his country, about his sevice to his country. In every respect, the burden of your argument rests with you.

Since this IS a left leaning blog-I generally come here to discuss topics of the day with like minded folk-what I usually have to do though is deal with retarded little pissants like you.
Now-go away monkeyfucker-you're beginning to annoy me with your incessant blather.

Jmfj-
"Kerry in his own words admitted to committing attrocities which were and are war crimes. Address that, not what I have or have not done.

Very well.

Kerry testified to operating under standard procedure, which he deemed to be criminal.

"Jmfj- You seem quick to judge a man that has been shot at in service to his country, about his sevice to his country. In every respect, the burden of your argument rests with you."


But Boyd, Kerry is a public figure. And he wants to ascend to out highest office.

Doesn't that place him on a different standard? In fact, are we not only right but in fact called to check his life out?

We don't need any more mistakes in the Oval Office -- Do we?

Thanks, Boyd

H

ps, does being "shot at" really put a person above question?

Frank, you just proved every point that i have made thusfar. No witty retort once again. No valid points. Not even a good insult. me: 4 you: 0. the battle is mine.

I will say this ONCE the cause Casey Sheehan died for was-Halliburton profits.
Nothing more..

Frank, you may be 55, but is that really old enough to curse another humble poster? Is that what it means to be "Liberal"?

Thanks, Horace

Boyd, would you please answer my questions?

Gracias -- Horace

Frank, i'll keep that in mind when the next terrorist attack hits. Cause thats probably what will happen if the lefties and sheehan get thier way.

whore'sass-why shouldn't Kerry have the same standards applied to him that applied to bushleague? Why should it be any harder for him?

Washington (CNSNews.com) - A coalition of former Vietnam prisoners of war gathered in Washington on Thursday to denounce John Kerry's anti-war activism, which, they said, labeled an entire generation of veterans as "atrocity-committing monsters."

A new documentary called "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal," featurs POWs explaining how Kerry's testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April 1971 was used against them in interrogations by North Vietnamese communists.

"When these people came back from the war and were vilified, spit upon and so forth, that was largely due to the efforts of this man [Kerry]," said former POW, Col. George "Bud" Day, who was on hand to promote the documentary detailing how Kerry's claims of daily war atrocities affected POWs.

Ziet, don't go -- we may need a touch of Zeus in here b4 long...

H

Frank, so basically you come here, not for witty debate, but to find sypathiesers for your cause. how cute

Whore's ass-the day ANY rightie that comes here jumpin' up and down in a retarded "monkey dance" for duhhbya-can actually be called "humble" is the day I throw away my dictionary.....

JMFJ-
thanks, man. somebody stole my virulent right weekly from the porch 15 months ago, so I missed that installment.

Walnut...the lefties and Sheescum will never get their way....they represent the fringe dwellers, and eventually will join the dust bin of loonies that litter the long forgotten past.........

Frank, why not go ahead and throw it away. its obvious that you don't use it, or your thesaurus. same partisan insults over and over again. and they're not even mediocre ones.

As an officer it was his duty to stop/report war crimes not participate in the war crimes as he said he did.

SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down.

You retarded nutjobs can go suck duhhbya's left nut-I'm goin' to bed.

Zeit, its nice that soeone else here listens to the voice of reason, and doesnt claim pacifism while smearing political fecal matter all over the forum landscape.

Night Frankie

"whore'sass-why shouldn't Kerry have the same standards applied to him that applied to bushleague? Why should it be any harder for him?

Posted by frankf55"

"whore'sass" -- lmao-rotfl...not bad, if you meant "sass"....altho' you might have missed an apostrophe

No different standard is called for Franknfurter

but...why should, as OilCanBoyd suggests --- Kerry be held above criticism because he was "shot at"?

The logical application of such a nonsensical standard would be that all soldiers, police officers & even drug dealers could run for office without any due dilligence or questions asnwered.

I'm sure you see what I mean.

So what's the answer, ChefBoydArdee?

Gratefully, Horace

I am no pacifist........and it looks like you are 'right' on target about the sick hump that is Sheehog...... Keep on keepin on!

Boyd,

He said it. Would you like it from a diffrent source?

Night frank, all insults aside, i enjoyed our little tryst. it was fun.

Ziet, i never said you were. i was speaking of Frank

Great posts Walnuthill, hope to see you around.

JMFJ-
You dolt.

What Kerry described was SOP. That's the FUCKING point!!!

Disagree with his statements or not, disagree with any point...please!!! But FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS SACRED, QUIT WITH THE LIMBAUGH LETTER SHIT!!!

JESUS.

JMFJ thanks. i found this place on accident and watched for a couple of weeks to see how it was going. i just coulnt stand some of the uninformed blather and had to interject. thanks again.

Walnut, Frank has a funny way of putting things, even if frightfully off the mark at times: "Whore's ass-the day ANY rightie that comes here jumpin' up and down in a retarded "monkey dance" for duhhbya-can actually be called "humble" is the day I throw away my dictionary....."

lmao

H

Boyd, I am afraid you are near converting.

Time to call Ray!!

H

Horace, i appreciate it. where did he get the monkey dance comment anyway?

Walnut, don't give up....IT GETS WORSE!!!

LMAO

It is TRULY an ASYLUM.

H

Boyd, you dolt, it was Kerry's duty as an officer to stop the so called madness, not participate in it.

Horace, i shall never give in. after all, if i did, i would just undercut everthing i believe in, and underscore everthing that comes out of them.

Walnut, maybe from them making fun of W as "chimpy".

You just need to hang out awhile to see how depserate & unhinged the left is these days.

H

btw, don't go -- as a Conservative it gets lonely in here! lmao

Do you get the letter Boyd, I don't?

Horace, to be honest with you, i lean more toward libertarian than conservative, but i completely belive that the libs have it all wrong.

Horace, I appreciate the sense you make in your posts as well. You my friend are not alone.

Horace, I appreciate the sense you make in your posts as well. You my friend are not alone.

Horace, I appreciate the sense you make in your posts as well. You my friend are not alone.

OilCanBoyd is getting to throw his 'Spitter...look out, guys!

H

I want you....

Thanks, JM...you have posts of excellence. That makes you a marked man around here!

lol

H

Boyd, please -- Not in front of the kids!

lmao

H

It's getting kinda sticky in here.

Maybe I should leave y'all alone for a bit

To all good night, and good sleep.

Work hard the tax man cometh.

Jewish Muslim for Jesus

Shalom
BeHead Them
God Bless

Boyd:

I want you to want me.
I need you to need me.
I'd love you to love me.
I'm beggin' you to beg me.

I want you to want me.
I need you to need me.
I'd love you to love me.
I'll shine up the old brown shoes, put on a brand-new shirt.
I'll get home early from work if you say that you love me.

Didn't i, didn't i, didn't I see you cryin'?
Oh, didn't i, didn't i, didn't I see you cryin'?
Feelin' all alone without a friend, you know you feel like dyin'.
Oh, didn't i, didn't i, didn't I see you cryin'?

I want you to want me.
I need you to need me.
I'd love you to love me.
I'm beggin' you to beg me.
I'll shine up the old brown shoes, put on a brand-new shirt.
I'll get home early from work if you say that you love me.

Didn't i, didn't i, didn't I see you cryin'?
Oh, didn't i, didn't i, didn't I see you cryin'?
Feelin' all alone without a friend, you know you feel like dyin'.
Oh, didn't i, didn't i, didn't I see you cryin'?
Feelin' all alone without a friend, you know you feel like dyin'.
Oh, didn't i, didn't i, didn't I see you cryin'?

I want you to want me.
I need you to need me.
I'd love you to love me.
I'm beggin' you to beg me.
I want you to want me.
I want you to want me.
I want you to want me.
I want you to want me.

Adios, fuck off

Kerry,
3 purple hearts and a gold star.
What did Dubya get in the war?
Oh that's right nothing, because he dodged it.

The purple hearts were bogus, remember?

What was real was that he gained in his political career by calling our guys murderers and rapist and things not seen since the likes of Genghis Khan.

Feel foolish? I'm embarrased for you.

"its obvious that you are a couple nothes below average on the intellectual totem-pole"
Posted by walnuthill

Ahh, the self-retorting retort!

lmao....

ChefBoydArdee -- Want your bowl back? Cuz you sure can dish it out, but you CAN'T TAKE IT, Pal!

lmao--rotfl...

H

Horace,

">"...maybe from them making fun of W as "chimpy"

Now, Horace, why would you ever say we do that???? For all you do, the link below is for you hahahahahaha

Danforth, my apologies...notches

ChefBoydArdee, you have the heat seeking abilities of a mosquito, but the courage of a 17 year old toothless poodle!

brahahahahah!!!

H

WalnutHill,

No apology needed. I've been guilty as well!

Hey Coder, you make a lot of sense, it was great to read your posts. One of my best friends growing up was lebonese, his grandmother made us Baklava (sp) bless her heart, his family sought refuge here around 70, you must have been a great influence also on the kids you grew up here with or there.

Cali, Dan, & Denver -- Greetings!

Hope you boys' nite is well.

We just lost our Closer, OilCanBoyd.

Sigh...

H

Denver, I love your posts. You are a good pickup for the team.

H

Cali & or Dan could both be hitting in the #4 spot on any given night.

We are getting ready for a little series here, boys.

H

H,

I was always leadoff: Speed, good eye for walks, and game savvy. I routinely led the league in my favorite stat, runs scored.

But I'd gladly consider #3. #4, or #5.

LOL, Dan with your wit & sense of timing, you can write you own contract & I'll sign it!

H

The purple hearts were bogus, remember?

What was real was that he gained in his political career by calling our guys murderers and rapist and things not seen since the likes of Genghis Khan.

Feel foolish? I'm embarrased for you.



Posted by denver_coder at 2006-02-01 01:49 AM | Reply



That is funny because Bob Doles first Purple heart was bogus too (Shrapnel wound from throwing a granade in a farm and missing hitting a tree and some of the shrapnel grazing him. Yeah Purple Hearts just Bogus alright.

Oh and since when is it wrong to tell the Truth. John Kerry was only stating facts that was going on in Vietnam. Sorry they cloud Your oh so rosy disposition about Your COuntry thinking it's not dirty.


Larry

Mad props to Cindy.

Protesters are like rappers- prison time just gives them more street cred.

H,

My contract?

Anything north of Pujols.

They arrested her for wearing a t-shirt? God, your country is pathetic. Makes me want to send a few crates of box-cutters to the nearest radical terrorist group. Then again, the closest radical terrorist group is the US Republican party.

Larry, you need to cut down on the Creatine of Democrat talking points. You are a Walking Fountain of Progaganda.

H

Awwwwwwwwwww Horace cant handle the Truth. Isnt that always the case.

Larry

GeneticMutant:

Try shaving tomorrow morning with your box cutter, starting at the base of your neck. It will help your technique!

H

ps, don't forget to swathe the area in transmission fluid -- cuts down on the burn!

Larry, have you ever stumbled across a Liberal soundbite you didn't immediately fall in love with?

H

Larry, have you ever stumbled across a Liberal soundbite you didn't immediately fall in love with?

H

Posted by horace at 2006-02-01 02:42 AM | Reply


You don't have a fact to come back on just some lousy fishy smelling Tripe is that what I am hearing ??

Larry

Cindy sheehan was arrested...for having an anti-war slogan on a T-SHIRT?

What is this? Highschool? What a joke our democracy has become.

What did the t-shirt say?

Unless it said "Kill Bush" they're out of line arresting here imho.

Of course the MSM has "no idea" what the shirt says.

It was probably "Bush lied" or "war is not the answer" ect ect. Just one more loyalty oath you have sign to get anywhere near this yellowbelly president.

Argued February 22, 1971

Decided June 7, 1971

Syllabus

Appellant was convicted of violating that part of Cal. Penal Code 415 which prohibits "maliciously and willfully disturb[ing] the peace or quiet of any neighborhood or person . . . by . . . offensive conduct," for wearing a jacket bearing the words "Fuck the Draft" in a corridor of the Los Angeles Courthouse. The Court of Appeal held that "offensive conduct" means "behavior which has a tendency to provoke others to acts of violence or to in turn disturb the peace," and affirmed the conviction. Held: Absent a more particularized and compelling reason for its actions, the State may not, consistently with the First and Fourteenth Amendments, make the simple public display of this single four-letter expletive a criminal offense. Pp. 22-26.

1 Cal. App. 3d 94, 81 Cal. Rptr. 503, reversed.

CNN is reporting:

"An early report from a senior House official indicated that Sheehan was arrested for unfurling an anti-war banner, but that was later found not to be the case"


Hmmmm....

I bet big money her shirt had no threats to violence on them.

That being the case, by law set down from scotus it was unconstitutional for her to be arrested.

Dollars to donuts...she was removed for being anti-bush, not anti-war.

BUSH IS A COWARD.

I Hope and pray that Cindy SHeehan takes this to court. I hope She sues the pants off of the US Government. That would tickle me to death. Bet it would really make those Bushite Ass Kisser uppers very frustrated WHEN She wins. That would rock.

Larry

I wonder if that T SHirt had exploding thread?? or if that T Shirt had those soaker things build in(Early 80's fad shirts had that tube much like what blood is drawn into that squirted water from the Nipple reigon. (Don't ask) Bush is a PUSSY and a COWARD.

Larry

Larry- I would love to see her win that, but she'll have to dodge an IRS audit first. Any bets?

Posted by alexandrite at 2006-02-01 03:18 AM | Reply


Oh does She have any outstanding IRS Debts?? I would so love to see that too. God that would Royally piss Rex off. Hey that would be like a double orgasm back to back know what I mean.

Larry

Be on the lookout folks...this mad lunatic al qaeda member is going to hijack a plane with her shirt.

Thank you, mr president...for fighting t-shirts over there, so i don't have to fight them here, you manly cowboy you.

Hey I am actualy Jealous of Cindy SHeehan's shirt. It looks to be of a high quality. Not some Wal Mart special. Good on her though.

Larry

They really stepped in it this time. Will america go back to sleep?

WOnder how the Bushites feel knowing they support a coward and a pussy. Must suck to be them. Know what I mean ALexandrite.

Larry

"You don't have a fact to come back on just some lousy fishy smelling Tripe is that what I am hearing ??

Larry"



Larry, first you have a *Clear* & *Cogent* point that you make. Then another poster has the possibility of responding.

Is it really that hard?

H

ps, Oh & if you are looking for someone to model yourself on...please avoid the liberal numnutz as they don't seem to be able to follow the formula.

Wearing any dangerous shirts today, horace?

Larry, first you have a *Clear* & *Cogent* point that you make. Then another poster has the possibility of responding.

Is it really that hard?

H

ps, Oh & if you are looking for someone to model yourself on...please avoid the liberal numnutz as they don't seem to be able to follow the formula.

Posted by horace at 2006-02-01 03:37 AM | Reply



You obviously have no clue what I said which is Par for the course with You. Oh I am not trying to model Myself after anyone I am my own person and don't give a damn who I Impress or not. That is the Beauty of not being a conservative. I can be my own person I don't have to conform myself to some "Traditional" way of dress and or speak. See that is what I love about being a Liberal We are Free thinkers not sticks in the mud like the conservatives know what I mean Horace. Doubtful but miracles DO happen.


Larry

I love the irony of bush speaking about freedom and democracy AFTER his goon squad removed a woman, and her 1st amendment rights, over a shirt that criticized his sucky foreign policy.

You can't make this stuff up.

Larry -- geez, I hate to break this to you, but I honestly don't respond to a lot of your comments directed to me because I don't have the faintest clue of what you are rambling on about.

This is a serious question: Are you on any kind of medication? Maybe that would explain it.

H

larry- Just ask him again.

please, before he has another "full moon" moment. I don't even remember what your original question was...

I didn't think I ever asked a Direct question to Horace. I made a Statement about Bob Doles First Purple Heart being just a shrapnel wound and Horace got all in a tizzy fit over it and accused me of using a Liberal talking point. Just stating the obvious truth that just irks him to no end thats all.

Larry

my girlfriends grandfather got a purple heart for being shot in the thumb.

he didn't lose the thumb. The rules are pretty simple. If the enemy shoots at, and harms you, then you get a purple heart.

I'd prefer to err on the side of not questioning the legitimacy of someone's purple heart. probably because I'm not that partisan an asshole.

LM: "You obviously have no clue what I said which is Par for the course with You. Oh I am not trying to model Myself after anyone I am my own person and don't give a damn who I Impress or not. That is the Beauty of not being a conservative. I can be my own person I don't have to conform myself to some "Traditional" way of dress and or speak. See that is what I love about being a Liberal We are Free thinkers not sticks in the mud like the conservatives know what I mean Horace. Doubtful but miracles DO happen.


Larry"

Larry, I guess I missed the "beauty" of your "responses". That undoubtedly happens when they often seem to be drafted in a long dead language, and then inserted into a computer translation program, the by product then posted without a proofread.

Since I haven't & undoubtedly will never see you, I can hardly be moved by your dress or eccentric clothing choices.


You love the fact that you have to be a Liberal to be a Free Thinker? Larry, that's not "freedom" -- it's the bondage that results from not doing any real deep thought on life's mysteries.

Whether a person is a "stick in the mud" is undoubtedly a matter of perspective & opinion. You are welcome to yours. That a person would be such simply as a result of being a Conservative is the worst kind of Liberal cant. But please don't do anything dangerous like thinking outside the box, for heaven's sake!!

If you are looking for "miracles" Larry -- start with yourself. That's what I try to do, believe it or not.

H

ps, if you would like to avoid my future inspection of your moral dung, then when not try to post me questions without the inevitable braindead, non sequiter insults? That might be good policy since I believe your Honeymoon period Offically ended at Midnight, and therefore your Scwhinn is now once again a Rutabaga.

ps, if you would like to avoid my future inspection of your moral dung, then why not try to post me questions without the inevitable braindead, non sequiter insults? That might be good policy since I believe your Honeymoon period Offically ended at Midnight, and therefore your Scwhinn has once again turned back into a Rutabaga.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Horace You are a trifle boring. Come up with some New Material please. Thank You.

Larry

Sheehan had received a House gallery pass to attend the speech as a guest of San Francisco Democrat Lynn Woolsey who told reporters that protesting Peace Mom had promised to remain respectful and not cause any disruptions while the president spoke.
She betrayed her son and country so why not a brainless liberal from San Francisco.

Sheehan had received a House gallery pass to attend the speech as a guest of San Francisco Democrat Lynn Woolsey who told reporters that protesting Peace Mom had promised to remain respectful and not cause any disruptions while the president spoke.
She betrayed her son and country so why not a brainless liberal from San Francisco.

=========

I respect that she loved her son and feels that this is how to show it. But its not about her son anymore. Initially it was. Then the liberals fell in love with her and now she's addicted to the power trip. Its no longer about her son. She's a trifling woman and you liberals that stand up for her make yourself look really stupid. When she falls, it'll be a domino effect taking you with her.

Well, after all, the First Amendment is "just a goddamn piece of paper."

Well, after all, the First Amendment is "just a goddamn piece of paper."

It would be splended if Sheehan crucified herself in front of Bushs ranch. The footage would be awesome. Watched the SOTU address....looked like a high school pep rally..of course not a public school pep rally, a couple thousand frat boi'z circle jerkin with their boob implanted plastic women, trying to look young, failing, but still laughing all the way to the bank. I sorta expected 3 of the heftier, ok fatter GOP congressmen to remove their shirts to reveal GWB painted in red over their gravity inflicted guts, One good thing bush has done is call out some of those fatasses. Great speech though, still hard to believe it. I saw Kerry in the nut gallary siting next to Newt Gingrich, and his pet spider monkey. Kerry was mumbling something about being a vet goddamit, while Newt gazed longingly into his new PSP, word has it he got the new Girls gone wild Doggy style featuring Snoopy double D oh Gee. Strangly enough the monkey didn't appear to be having any fun. After the vodka, oxycotin, and weed I stopped having much fun too.

It was nice to see that Cindy showed up in her sweat pants and a tee-shirt for the SOTU address... An Anti-War Tee-Shirt at that...

Sorry Honey,,, Maybe someone should have told you that there was a DRESS CODE! I think even the democrats were shocked at how she was dressed... This is a perfect example of how out of touch with reality that woman is...

I love the way some of the libs here cheer her on...

Larry... LOL Yayyyyyyyy... LOL

"You go Girl" LOL

You gonna blame that on Bush too?

I did notice Teddy Kennedy was amung the missing at the STOU last night... Probably Face Down in a Bar Drunker than hell...

Perhaps Kennedy is like a lot of us....not interested in hearing Bush's B.S. anymore.

Sounds like a reasonable explaination to me.

"Face Down in a Bar Drunker than hell"

This would be the only way I could handle listening to Bush talk.

No doubt he was with me at Pink Pony here in the Atlanta, probably the only strip club in America where you can eat a steak watch the SOTU while another fine American drops it like it's hot for few bucks. A few brews in him and he was glowing red like a fresh glazed candied ham.

I only wish she would have waited to reveil her shirt until the SOTU has started. It would have generated a lot more press and caused much more talk. Why not just let her stay? We are living in an age where people are so scared they are scared of a T-Shirt??? Thats just wierd. Had she screamed, or even waved her arms around or even stood up in an attempt to distract people there might be a grain of reason for removal, but to just wear a shirt??? What kind of a country is this America? I hope both parties start to study Tom Paine, Ben Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson. We are one F'ed country if we stop sharing the values they help us form. Without that we have nothing to hold this union together.

Oh but Mr Peanut what SHe did didn't break the Law. They broke the law by arresting Her and Removing Her from the Capitol. There is a thing called Free Speech that people fail to acknowledge in this country. That wasn't in no way a demonstration.

Larry

BashThis Obviously You have no clue abhout Patriotism and the Rule of Law. So Don't be telling ANYONE about some Nonexistant Dress COde. Thomas Jefferson wore Overalls while President so don't even think about going there BashThis. You will lose every time.

Larry

Larry..LOL

Read this

Cindy Sheehan, the anti-war activist who was removed from the House gallery last night before the State of the Union address for wearing a t-shirt with a political message, is not the first person to be tossed from a Congressional gallery at a high-profile event for wearing a political t-shirt.



In the early days of the Senate's impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton in January 1999, a Pennsylvania man named Dave Delp was removed by the Capitol police from the Senate gallery for wearing a t-shirt that said, "Clinton doesn't inhale, he sucks."

I think you are wrong... You are not allowed to Protest inside the Building... Free Speech or not... I guess if she would have lit an American Flag on fire in there that would be OK with you too...

Getting arrested is a time-honored American activity in order to make a political statement.

"BashThis Obviously You have no clue abhout Patriotism and the Rule of Law"

Yea.. Cindy Sheehan... The patriot Fruit Cake....

As far as the Rule of Law, I apparently know far more than some of the people on this site... Especially that guy names Larry.

If Kerry was in drag he would look alot like Cindy

Good thing Cindy wasn't arrested. I'd hate to have to see her miss her connecting flight with Hugo so they can go to Iran's holocaust conference together.

BashThis in Your dreams I'd reckon LOL in Your dreams


Larry

Sheehan is an ideal representative of the american left. No respect, no job, nothing but shit slinging.

The only person dumber than the asswipes here sniffing her jock is the tard that brought her.

Who pays her to travel around and do nothing but make a spectacle of herself (besides Hugo Chavez)?

Larry... Do you have this Compulsion to always have the last word?

Childish...

Who pays her to travel around and do nothing but make a spectacle of herself (besides Hugo Chavez)?

Posted by 101chairborne at 2006-02-01 09:21 AM


I'd also like to know who is funding this whole deal. It's fine even though it is stupid but I would like to know who is behind it - Soros?? Again, it is their right but it should be known.

I'm embarrassed about the ridiculous Democratic response given by Virginia governor Kane. Who was the idiot who thought that would be a good idea??

Posted by GZlives at 2006-01-31 10:30 PM | Reply


wasnt it because he is a dem governor in a red state...didnt they go republican in 04?

and on abc they said that they had people looking into it and out of 63 paragraphs in the speach about 45 could have been said by a democrat or something like that....in other words there were many more occasions of working for bipartisan support on issues they could agree with than not.....of course you would never say anything like that about a dem speach....all it has is obstruct and deny.....


and is there any doubt that if she had been allowed to remain that she would not have made a bigger ass of herself.....just by being there she was being disruptive ..I am sure that casey is REAL PROUD.....not the place or the time.....jeez...her 5 mins is WAY UP....

There is a time and a place for protest. Her choice of occasion was utterly inappropriate. Whoever invited her is likely very emberassed right about now.

She lacks the ability to articulate anything other than a far-left, anti-Bush, talking-point laden statement.

I certainly feel for her loss. That said, her grief does not make her above reproach. She has chosen to insert herself into the limelight of political activism and quite frankly, she is making a complete fool of herself IMO.

Honestly, Gov. Kane kind of creeped me out. This is the Democrat wonderboy? He sounded just like Ralph Reed or Pat Robertson. Yet you support this guy?

He mentioned God enough times to send Buffalo Bob running screaming for the hills. "Hello, I'm a Christian too! But not like Bush, there's a better way."

Tell me, is it a violation of Church and State when the Democrat National Response asks me to pray, or only when an inanimate nativity scene is in a town square?

and is there any doubt that if she had been allowed to remain that she would not have made a bigger ass of herself.....just by being there she was being disruptive ..I am sure that casey is REAL PROUD.....not the place or the time.....jeez...her 5 mins is WAY UP....

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2006-02-01 09:36 AM

America, home of the Free!

She is being disruptive by even being there!!
In fact, let's arrest her for even being there!

Who the hell does she think she is? King Sheehan? We only have one King in Merica, that's Dubya!
2,245 Dead. How many more? That kind of radical message should not be allowed or tolerated! That is clearly hate speech and profane!
Jail was too nice, she should be locked in the stocks in public so we can through tomatoes at her, just like in the good ole days

"Maybe someone should have told you that there was a DRESS CODE!"

Oh, so you should arrest, assault and jail someone because they violated the DRESS CODE!!!???!!!

You neocons are sick people.

"Oh, so you should arrest, assault and jail someone because they violated the DRESS CODE!!!???!!!"

Cindy Sheehan was given the opportunity to COVER THE SHIRT UP... She REFUSED... Where does it say she was ASSAULTED???

Again she is not th first person to be arrested for this... There was a guy in 1999...
Here...

In the early days of the Senate's impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton in January 1999, a Pennsylvania man named Dave Delp was removed by the Capitol police from the Senate gallery for wearing a t-shirt that said, "Clinton doesn't inhale, he sucks."

"Oh, so you should arrest, assault and jail someone because they violated the DRESS CODE!!!???!!!"

Sounds like Commie Martyr's High School.

Vee vill naht haf eeny Furst Amahnment prowtests een der reich

Read this Libs... A republicans wife was also escorted out for wearing a Tee-Shirt in support of the troops...

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- The wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, R-Indian Shores, told a newspaper that she was ejected during the State of the Union address for wearing a T-shirt that says, "Support the Troops Defending Our Freedom."

Beverly Young told the St. Petersburg Times that she was sitting in the front row of the House gallery Tuesday night when she was approached by someone who told her she needed to leave.

She said she reluctantly agreed, but argued with several officers in an outside hallway.

In a telephone interview with the newspaper, Young said she told them her shirt wasn't a protest but a message of support.

Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider said Young wasn't ejected from the gallery and she left on her own. She couldn't provide additional details.

Young's husband found out about the incident after Bush's speech and called it unacceptable.

Whats Unecceptable is wearing a Tee-Shirt in the Hall.... No Political messages are allowed... Especially when the president is in the House...

How did President Bush's speech make you feel about the state of the nation?

More encouraged 23% 18021 votes

Less encouraged 30% 23765 votes

I didn't watch it 48% 38234 votes
Total: 80020 votes

"Tell me, is it a violation of Church and State when the Democrat National Response asks me to pray, or only when an inanimate nativity scene is in a town square?"

You really don't understand the concept of seperation of church and state.

When a Dem or a Rep asks you to pray in a political speech, that is well within their free speech rights to do so.

A nativity scene in a town square is generally acceptable as well...so long as 1) no public funds are used to erect or maintain the display and 2) the town allows others to display their signs and symbols as well. If so, then they are allowing free speech appropriately. If either of these precepts is violated then the town government is endorsing a religion.

Most serious cases in court involving things like nativity scenes are there because of this, not simply because of a public display of a religious symbol.

"Read her account of the incident "

As far as Anything Cindy Sheehan says... I don't belive a word that comes out of her mouth...

My point earlier was that the Democrats seemed Glad she was not there too...

She is an Asshat of the worst kind.

Read this Bash:
There is a world of difference between being escorted out and being arrested. A whole criminal charge difference. Had the pro-troops woman been arrested or Sheehan only been escorted out, you would have a point.

"A republicans wife was also escorted out for wearing a Tee-Shirt in support of the troops..."

I find this objectionable as well. You have every right in the the seat of OUR government to display your political opinion, if you so wish. So long as you dress within the general decency guidelines and your behavior is not problematic, then I don't care who's in the house you have the right to wear your tshirt.

I do note that the Republican lady was not hauled out with a cop screaming "Protestor!"

Larry... Do you have this Compulsion to always have the last word?

Childish...



Posted by bashthis at 2006-02-01 09:21 AM | Reply


No that would be You Hunny. That would be You sweet cheeks.

Larry

"There is a world of difference between being escorted out and being arrested."

Exactly, Kanrei.

Bash - Sheehan was arrested and jailed for nothing more than wearing a tshirt. That is a matter of public record even if you don't believe her account.

You wingnuts have this image of Cindy Sheehan as some wild eyed radical screaming protestor. She's nothing of the sort. She's just a mom who lost her only son for an unjust cause and who's standing up publicly to try to prevent others from the same fate. I admire her courage.

Und ve vil naht tawlerate zat...Heil!

"Wow, I get hauled out of the People's House because I was, "Protesting." GUILTY!

That just says it all doesn't it...

Hi Jeff,

I certainly feel for her loss. That said her grief does not make her above reproach. She has chosen to insert herself into the limelight of political activism and quite frankly, she is making a complete fool of herself IMO.

Although I do not agree with her behavior, last I checked making a fool of oneself is not against the law. If it were I suspect most of us would have been in jail at some point.

Also, simply breaking SOTU etiquette is not against the law. If that is what occurred she should have simply been removed from the building.

Until someone proves she actually broke a law on the occasion, my call would be, the arrest is wrong.

And don't forget, symbolic speech has been allowed at SOTUs in the past.

Things like flags on lapels and purple fingers.

And, by the way, the Republican lady wasn't "removed" by the police. Her account was that "some people" in her area told her that she wasn't supposed to be there with that shirt on, so she walked out and started an argument with the capitol police (imagine a republican lady doing that...)

Sheehan was sitting peacefully. She was in DC for a protest and was invited last minute by a congress person to attend the SOTU. She came straight from the protest and sat down, then unzipped her coat, which exposed the tshirt she'd been wearing. The cop yelled "Protestor!" and grabbed her and handcuffed her then dragged her up the stairs.

I think that's a bit of a different situation than the Repub lady faced.

Imagine it. You live in a country now where you can be immediately arrested, handcuffed and charged with a crime because someone doesn't like the tshirt you are wearing while you sit peacefully in your seat, not bothering anyone.

Are you proud of that kind of America, Bashthis?

She was just sitting wearing a T-shirt that read: "2,245 Dead. How many more?"
She was then singled out by the same man who seated her who yelled out "PROTESTER!!!" and abruptly shoved p the stairs and out of the room, and into the awaiting squad car for her arrest.

This is what our country has become. You can surely be proud neo-cons. What if it was YOU that died for what is an 'arguable' cause at best, and this is how our country treated your grieving mother. Think about this... this could be YOUR mother. For one sec take a break from your hate, and imagine your mother in her place.

DC,

Do you honestly feel that the SOU shouldn't be free from protest?

The SOU speech is an important address that I personally don't want distracted by political activists. And agree or not, it WOULD have been a distraction. Now, if you want to argue that Cindy being taken to jail, in lieu of just being removed was extreme....No problem. I just have to seriously question the judgement of anybody who feels that the SOU *shouldn't* be free from political protest.

I find this objectionable as well. You have every right in the the seat of OUR government to display your political opinion, if you so wish. So long as you dress within the general decency guidelines and your behavior is not problematic, then I don't care who's in the house you have the right to wear your tshirt.

I agree, but I can see not allowing shirts that personally attack specific politicans or political parties: Clinton sucks or Republicans suck, e.g. I don't think either woman's shirt was so offensive that it should have had her kicked out.

"That just says it all doesn't it"

No it doesn't, Bash.

First of all your paste job left in the quotes that Sheehan included... that she "was arrested for 'protesting'". She isn't saying that she was protesting, she was quoting the claim of the police.

Second...so you want to live in an America where peaceful protest is illegal?
An America where everyone's free, as long as they believe in the right religion and hold the right political views?

That's what your posts endorse.

JeffJ,
I think that our issue is that, once again, an anti-war person is arrested while a pro-person is asked to leave the same event. The two ladies were both invited to attend, both commited the exact same action, and one was arrested. That is my issue at least.

"Are you proud of that kind of America, Bashthis"

Yes I am...

It is illegal to protest in the House Building... It has been since 1946... Read the law....

Sheehan even admits that she was there to PROTEST.... That is illegal... The woman who wore the Support our troops shirt was not PROTESTING so she did not get arrested.

Do you honestly feel that the SOU shouldn't be free from protest?

The SOU speech is an important address that I personally don't want distracted by political activists. And agree or not, it WOULD have been a distraction. Now, if you want to argue that Cindy being taken to jail, in lieu of just being removed was extreme....No problem. I just have to seriously question the judgement of anybody who feels that the SOU *shouldn't* be free from political protest.

Posted by jeffj at 2006-02-01 11:48 AM | Reply



SO basicaly what I am hearing from You is You don't believe in Free SPeech huh JeffJ ?>?? is that what I am hearing ?? this is AMerica not some third world country after all.


Larry

Hello What'sleft,


Now, if you want to argue that Cindy being taken to jail, in lieu of just being removed was extreme....No problem.

Given the information available, arresting her seems extreme to me as well.

I'd like to hear a couple of other witness accounts. Every story like this has 2 sides. DC was kind enough to link Cindy's side of the story. Now, I'd like to see some other perspectives and accounts of what happened.

DC,
How big of a partisan fool do you have to be to believe Sheehan is just a grieving mother?
She is a spotlight seeker. She will saddle-up with any american hating crowd. Her cohorts are Harry Belafonte and Hugo Chavez.
The SOTU is not a "t-shirt" event. If she wan't up to anything or didn't think it was wrong why did she have it covered up in the first place?
She is nothing more than a spotlight ranger that has used her sons death as stepping stone to promote her whacko views.

She revels in being arrested, she's no different than Sharpton and those other assclowns that look for confrontation with police in order to gain more spotlight. Sheehan refused to cover up her t-shirt, that's why she was arrested.
She's a low class lefty (redundant) looney.

Larry,
Kill yourself.
Precious

Imagine it. You live in a country now where you can be immediately arrested, handcuffed and charged with a crime because someone doesn't like the tshirt you are wearing while you sit peacefully in your seat, not bothering anyone.

Are you proud of that kind of America, Bashthis?


Posted by dcinma at 2006-02-01 11:46 AM | Reply

As long as it was the right "kind" of person arrested, they are very proud.

Another nail in the coffin of freedom of expression. What a sad day in America... or should it be Amerika?

"Do you honestly feel that the SOU shouldn't be free from protest?"

I feel that the SOTU should be free from disturbances. Outbursts, chanting, acting out, displaying banners, etc. I, myself, wouldn't make a display.

However, the right to protest your government is a protected and inalienable right. Wearing a tshirt while sitting there is perfectly acceptable and, I believe, protected speech.

And don't tell me that protest isn't tolerated. Remember all of the Republican politicians that booed Clinton and wouldn't applaud him? Remember the purple fingers last year? Those actions are every bit as much political protest and political speech as is someone in the audience who's wearing a tshirt.

Someone who starts yelling or whatever during the speech is committing a disturbance and should be removed; that I agree with. The idea that there should be no political display at one of the largest public political events of the yera is absurd.

DANFORTH

What did the t-shirt say?

It had the number of our military war casualties (something like 2,240, I can't remember exactly) and then in small letters underneath the number it said: "No more war."

Wearing a T Shirt is NOT Protesting no matter how hard You try and make it protesting BashThis. Sorry You can not comprehend this but why am I not surprized that You can't.

Larry

Larry,

Please don't put words into my mouth. I have no problem with civil dissent.


From Bashthis:

It is illegal to protest in the House Building... It has been since 1946... Read the law....


The one point that is salient is the apparent double standard between the 2. However, Cindy's shirt was clearly a protest. The other woman's shirt was an endorsement.

Bash,

Can you link the law see we can analyze the language and determine whether or not this supposed double standard is fair (or unfair)?

"Sheehan even admits that she was there to PROTEST"

No she didn't, Bash. She was quoting what the cop said.

"Sheehan even admits that she was there to PROTEST"

No she didn't, Bash. She was quoting what the cop said.

Larry,

Wearing a T Shirt is NOT Protesting no matter how hard You try and make it protesting BashThis.

No, but wearing a T-shirt WITH a message of protest on it IS, Larry. It's no different than bringing in a sign. I am sorry you can't comprehend this but I shouldn't be surprised that you can't.

Bash, anybody,

Let's link the law that Bash is referring to.

The one point that is salient is the apparent double standard between the 2. However, Cindy's shirt was clearly a protest. The other woman's shirt was an endorsement.


No it wasn't a Protest it was just A Shirt the same with the other. a SHit can not protest a person can however. by their actions. WOrds don't protest People do. Nope the T SHirt wasn't a Protest by definition cause an inanimate object can not act.


Larry

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED .... IN SHEEHAN'S OWN WORDS LAST NIGHT..."(PART 1 of 2)


"Dear Friends,

As most of you have probably heard, I was arrested before the State of the Union Address tonight.

I am speechless with fury at what happened and with grief over what we have lost in our country.

There have been lies from the police and distortions by the press. (Shocker) So this is what really happened:

This afternoon at the People's State of the Union Address in DC where I was joined by Congresspersons Lynn Woolsey and John Conyers, Ann Wright, Malik Rahim and John Cavanagh. Lynn brought me a ticket to the State of the Union Address. At that time, I was wearing the shirt that said: 2,245 Dead. How many more?

After the PSOTU press conference, I was having second thoughts about going to the SOTU at the Capitol. I didn't feel comfortable going. I knew George Bush would say things that would hurt me and anger me and I knew that I couldn't disrupt the address because Lynn had given me the ticket and I didn't want to be disruptive out of respect for her. I, in fact, had given the ticket to John Bruhns who is in Iraq Veterans Against the War. However, Lynn's office had already called the media and everyone knew I was going to be there so I sucked it up and went.

I got the ticket back from John, and I met one of Congresswoman Barbara Lee's staffers in the Longworth Congressional Office building and we went to the Capitol via the underground tunnel. I went through security once, then had to use the rest room and went through security again.

My ticket was in the 5th gallery, front row, fourth seat in. The person who in a few minutes was to arrest me, helped me to my seat.

I had just sat down and I was warm from climbing 3 flights of stairs back up from the bathroom so I unzipped my jacket. I turned to the right to take my left arm out, when the same officer saw my shirt and yelled, "Protester." He then ran over to me, hauled me out of my seat and roughly (with my hands behind my back) shoved me up the stairs. I said something like, "I'm going, do you have to be so rough?" By the way, his name is Mike Weight.

The officer ran with me to the elevators yelling at everyone to move out of the way. When we got to the elevators, he cuffed me and took me outside to await a squad car. On the way out, someone behind me said, "That's Cindy Sheehan." At which point the officer who arrested me said, "Take these steps slowly." I said, "You didn't care about being careful when you were dragging me up the other steps." He said, "That's because you were protesting." Wow, I get hauled out of the People's House because I was, "Protesting."

I was never told that I couldn't wear that shirt into the Congress. I was never asked to take it off or zip my jacket back up. If I had been asked to do any of those things...I would have, and written about the suppression of my freedom of speech later. I was immediately, and roughly (I have the bruises and muscle spasms to prove it) hauled off and arrested for "unlawful conduct."

(CONTINUED BELOW)

DC,

She was wearing a T-shirt with a clear message of protest on it. Once she makes that shirt visible to the public eye, she is clearly protesting, whether or not she admits so.

CINDY SHEEHAN'S ACCOUNTING OF HER ARREST (Part 2 of 2 continued from above)

"After I had my personal items inventoried and my fingers printed, a nice Sgt. came in and looked at my shirt and said, "2,245, huh? I just got back from there."

I told him that my son died there. That's when the enormity of my loss hit me. I have lost my son. I have lost my First Amendment rights. I have lost the country that I love. Where did America go? I started crying in pain.

What did Casey die for? What did the 2,244 other brave young Americans die for? What are tens of thousands of them over there in harm's way for still? For this? I can't even wear a shirt that has the number of troops on it that George Bush and his arrogant and ignorant policies are responsible for killing.

I wore the shirt to make a statement. The press knew I was going to be there and I thought every once in awhile they would show me and I would have the shirt on. I did not wear it to be disruptive, or I would have unzipped my jacket during George's speech. If I had any idea what happens to people who wear shirts that make the neocons uncomfortable...that I would be arrested...maybe I would have, but I didn't.

There have already been many wild stories out there.

I have some lawyers looking into filing a First Amendment lawsuit against the government for what happened tonight. I will file it. It is time to take our freedoms and our country back.

I don't want to live in a country that prohibits any person, whether he/she has paid the ultimate price for that country, from wearing, saying, writing, or telephoning any negative statements about the government. That's why I am going to take my freedoms and liberties back. That's why I am not going to let Bushco take anything else away from me...or you.

I am so appreciative of the couple of hundred protesters who came to the jail while I was locked up to show their support....we have so much potential for good...there is so much good in so many people.

Four hours and 2 jails after I was arrested, I was let out. Again, I am so upset and sore it is hard to think straight.

Keep up the struggle...I promise you I will too.

Love and peace soon,
Cindy"

Sheehan refused to cover up her t-shirt, that's why she was arrested.

She said she wasn't given the chance to zip her sweatshirt back up, and that if she had, she would have done so. Listen, I'm no apologist for Sheehan. That image of her cuddling up to Chavez was creepy in my opinion.

Larry,

By wearing the shirt, she is protesting. If she came in and held up a sign, it would be a protest. The 'sign' didn't protest, but the person brandishing the sign did. In this case, the shirt didn't protest, but the person *wearing* the shirt did.

FVZ...


This is how you libs spread lies... "and into the awaiting squad car for her arrest."

You make it sound as though they were waiting for with a car at the ready.. That is Totally UNTRUE... They had to wait for one to get there...

Cindy Stated:
"he cuffed me and took me outside to await a squad car."

This is the typical hot headed reaction of the Lib... Stretch it till it's Bigger than it is...

She broke the Law and Got Arrested Again... She is racking up a lot of Misdemeanors.. She should do some time... I would do some time if I had my Fifth Misdemeanor charge no doubt...

STill not protesting JeffJ no matter how hard you try to make it as such

Larry

"How big of a partisan fool do you have to be to believe Sheehan is just a grieving mother?"

First of all, anyone who knows me would certainly attest that I'm no "partisan fool".

Second of all, I'm a parent. I'm a parent who's had to fight hard for my children in an ugly battle with a former spouse who is, it is now (at last) generally accepted, quite mentally ill. I haven't lost a child like she did - but I understand how it feels when something terribly wrong like that happens. Some of us stand up for what we believe.

I believe her motivation to activism is simply what she says it is. She is extremely upset about the loss of her son which, in her eyes, was due to an illegal and unjustified action by this administration. She is moved to seek publicity in order to change things so that this unneccesary sacrifice doesn't have to happen to someone else.

She's trying to turn a negative life experience into positive action. That's admirable. And, yes, her action is to seek publicity to change public opinion. That's how we do things here.

It's not partisan. Look at the guy who runs the show "America's Most Wanted". He also was motivated to public action by the loss of his son.

"Sheehan refused to cover up her t-shirt, that's why she was arrested."

Even if she was asked to cover up her t-shirt - why should she? Any law that says you can't wear a statement on your clothing because the government finds it objectionable is blatantly unconstitutional.

Exception being for obscenity, of course.

Righties - you are supporting a government banning of certain speech because you don't like the message and the messenger. Don't call yourselves patriotic Americans because you don't support the fundamental principals of Americanism.

Horace, the just arrested someone for wearing a t-shirt. Doesn't that sound a bit North Korean to you? God forbid she would silently offer an opinion that was different than dear leader's.

Your constitution obviously means nothing to you guys. Your bill of rights is obviously meaningless, too. Does that still make you Americans or just Soviets with shinier toys?

Gal,

She said she wasn't given the chance to zip her sweatshirt back up, and that if she had, she would have done so.


However, once she had that shirt on her person; she was a potential distraction. Let's play this out:

Cindy offers to zip up her coat and obfuscate her shirt. Once the speech is going, Cindy unzips her coat and exposes her illegal (assuming Bash is correct about the 1946 law) message of protest. At this point, the cameras are rolling and much of the nation is watching. She chose to wear the shirt and was rightfully removed for doing so.

From where I sit, the remaining discussion really is:

1. Was arresting her excessive?
2. Did a true double-standard exist in regards to the Republican woman wearing her shirt of endorsement?

101, do/did you love your mother? I mean, right or wrong, anyone who loves there mother can't have anything but sympathy for this woman. If this was your mother, and you didn't agree with what she was doing, I'm sure you would discuss with her or try to influence her to change her mind, but ultimately, would you ever say, "SEE MOM? I told you you would get arrested, you got what you deserve!!" or would you be furious about the way the gov't treated her?

Tell the truth, boys.

Righties - you are supporting a government banning of certain speech because you don't like the message and the messenger. Don't call yourselves patriotic Americans because you don't support the fundamental principals of Americanism.

Posted by dcinma at 2006-02-01 12:09 PM | Reply


I second that Motion AND Emotion too.


Larry

BASHTHIS

Cindy Stated:
"he cuffed me and took me outside to await a squad car."

This is the typical hot headed reaction of the Lib... Stretch it till it's Bigger than it is...


Well, isn't that usually what happens when you're arrested??!!! You're handcuffed and you wait for a squad car to bring you to jail!! DUH. You need to watch some more episodes of "Cops." How is waiting for a squad car stretching the truth? Did you think one of the Republicans' stretch limos was going to take her to jail for booking???

Larry,

How do you define protest then? If she held up a sign with the exact same words on it, is that a protest in your view?

She had in her person a message of protest. That message was printed on a shirt that she was wearing. She was actively protesting by wearing that shirt.

I love this stuff....

And the Left accuses Bush of Spreading Fear....

KERRY CLAIMS: 53% OF CHILDREN DO NOT GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL
Wed Feb 01 2006 10:43:40 ET

Sen. John Kerry claimed this morning on NBC TODAY that 53% of America's children do not graduate from high school -- a claim that raised eyebrows in the NBC control room, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

Kerry made the comments after host Katie Couric asked the former presidential candidate about Bush's State of the Union call to train 70,000 additional teachers in math and science.

COURIC: He wanted to train 70,000 additional teachers in math and science.

KERRY: That's terrific. But 53 percent of our children don't graduate from high school. Kids don't have after-school programs... He didn't ask America to sacrifice anything to achieve great goals and the biggest example is making the tax cut permanent for the wealthiest people in America. The average American struggles to find time to take carry of families, working two or three jobs... It's a disgrace. He did not tell the real state of the union.

Kerry's 53% claim conflicts with a recent press release from the U.S. Census Bureau: "High School Graduation Rates Reach All-Time High"

And the Census Bureau's own website states: 85.9 Percent Of Americans Aged 20-24 Are High School Graduates. (U.S. Census Bureau Website, www.census.gov , Accessed 2/1/06)

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Or, they shoulda put Cindy in a chair and paraded her around the floor like in a Jewish wedding!! LOL!!

I would have paid money to see that. Good, hard-earned money... Not because I worship Sheehan, but because her presence pisses off Bush to no end. He fucking HATES her because all she did was sit outside his ranch - and he's king of his universe and couldn't do a damn thing about it. The whole thing was just great. Great TV too.

If I were a Dem, I would have gone a step further and placed stressed-out, malnourished Asian children at sewing machines making Levis in every available space. The state of the union address set to sweatshop sewing machine noises would be so great.

This is the AMerica we have now Do You love it Righties. I bet if the SHoe was on the other foot You would be pissing and moaning. WHy do You hate AMerica so much?? Why don't You love AMerica like You claim?? Why aren't You Patriotic CItizens ?? Why do You hate AMerica??


Larry

From where I sit, the remaining discussion really is:

1. Was arresting her excessive?
2. Did a true double-standard exist in regards to the Republican woman wearing her shirt of endorsement?

Posted by jeffj


#1: Yes.

#2: Yes.

The man will Say Anything..... You Libs have to stop voting for Idiots like Kerry... They are the reason why the Democrats have lost all three branches and now the Supreme Court... How is that working out for ya?

About as you'd expect, with the fascisti in charge

Larry,

How do you define protest then? If she held up a sign with the exact same words on it, is that a protest in your view?

She had in her person a message of protest. That message was printed on a shirt that she was wearing. She was actively protesting by wearing that shirt.

Posted by jeffj at 2006-02-01 12:13 PM | Reply



By causing a disturbance by loud boisterous shouts and disturbing the room. SHe was just wearing a T SHirt NOT Protesting plain and Simple. Sure it had a Message that does not make it protesting. if You want to call that Protesting then the purple fingered wearers should have been removed last SOTU that was a "Protest" too under Your definition JeffJ Why werent they removed huh ??



Larry

Kerry deflection above, Kerry deflection above - anything to keep from talking about Scheehan's arrest. Kerry deflection -- where's a Clinton deflection .... waiting....waiting.....waiting

"If the shirt she was wearing had a "pro war" saying would she have been arrested? It gives a clear indication of the direction our country is heading when a person is arrested for free speech in the U.S. Capitol."

With over 300 posts, I'm not reading them all, but to answer this question...

"Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young of Florida - chairman of the House Defense Appropriations subcommittee - was removed from the gallery because she was wearing a T-shirt that read, "Support the Troops - Defending Our Freedom.""

There are no "protests" or banners (including T-shirts) allowed in the Capitol. Both sides were removed for violating the rules for that particular building.

"Imagine it. You live in a country now where you can be immediately arrested, handcuffed and charged with a crime because someone doesn't like the tshirt you are wearing while you sit peacefully in your seat, not bothering anyone."

What if a white kid walked into a public school classroom, took off his coat and sat down wearing a T-shirt stating "I don't like black people"?

Are you saying this kid should NOT be removed from class simply because someone doesn't like his T-shirt?

Because that's not what political correctness states. Hate speech laws means you can be arrested for what you say.
So which is it? Can T-shirts be banned or not? Who gets to decide?

Careful, SOCK, you will now be swiftboated and equated with the terrorists and there democratic talking points by the mother-hating righties.

LOL!!

Doesn't anyone find it interesting that Cindy failed to include Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider's warning to her that such displays were not allowed in the House chamber? Cindy also failed to include that she did not respond to Sgt. Schneider. Cindy just did what she wanted in direct violation of a lawful order.

It is always interesting to see the "little, insignificant" details that get left out of some people's versions of events.

Sheehan also forgets to include that her son Casey returned from Iraq after his first tour and was eligible for an honorable discharge. He opted instead to reenlist knowing full well that he probably would be sent to Iraq again.

Sheehan also forgets to mention that "little, insignificant" detail.

And our score so far ladies and gents

Larry = 1

Jeffy = o

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BATSHIT (on Kerry deflection), the Almighty says don't change the subject; just answer the fucking question.

Cindy offers to zip up her coat and obfuscate her shirt. Once the speech is going, Cindy unzips her coat and exposes her illegal (assuming Bash is correct about the 1946 law) message of protest. At this point, the cameras are rolling and much of the nation is watching. She chose to wear the shirt and was rightfully removed for doing so.

You're right, Jeff. She might have done that. Even though she claims she wouldn't have, we don't know that for certain. Like I said, I don't see the problem with either woman's t-shirt. If they had let them both stay, their messages would have balanced each other out and been representative of free speech in a democracy. If it is against the law, then that is a different matter. Just imagine if she hadn't unzipped her sweatshirt until after Bush had started his speech. Would they have drug her out then? Yikes.

"Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young of Florida - chairman of the House Defense Appropriations subcommittee - was removed from the gallery because she was wearing a T-shirt that read, "Support the Troops - Defending Our Freedom.""

There are no "protests" or banners (including T-shirts) allowed in the Capitol. Both sides were removed for violating the rules for that particular building.

Posted by SanityNowPlease at 2006-02-01 12:19 PM | Reply


SHe shouldn't have been removed either it wasn't a Protest either. SInce when can T Shirts walk out of Your closet and Perform an act ?? I best keep a lock on my closet doors from now on.

Larry

You libs are a bunch of fucking hypocrits. A Congressman's wife was removed for wearing a T-shirt with a pro military slogan on it. Where the hell is the integrity the left claims they have? I don't see, and neither does anyone else.

To quote Tadowe (never thought I would) "Puling Hyporcrits"

"SHe shouldn't have been removed either it wasn't a Protest either"

LARRY, WTF does that mean?

"There are no "protests" or banners (including T-shirts) allowed in the Capitol. Both sides were removed for violating the rules for that particular building.

Posted by SanityNowPlease at 2006-02-01 12:19 PM "

Sanity, you are sort of correct, but only one of those women were arrested: the anti-war one.
It is not protesting that is not allowed in the SOTU, it is politcal messeges of any kind. YOu can no more carry a sign that says "Bush for ever" than you can carry a sign that say "Bush never". You cannot wear a shirt that supports war or protests it. The SOTU is not there for that purpose. It is the ONLY time the entire Congress, the President, the Vice-President and the Supreme Court are in the same building. It is there to hear the State of our Union and nothing more. All forms of protest, both for and against, are illegal. If one was arrested, both should have been. It is that simple. It is that clear.

You wear a stenciled T-shirt, you are making a statement. You cannot, in all honesty and integrity, say that wearing a T-shirt with a political statement on it is not a display of either support or protest. Both are illegal in the Capitol Building.

Are you libs now suggesting that we igore all the laws that are inconvenient to us?

We've got free speech in this country. And that's great. Our founding fathers - and this is a fact - believed that responsible speech was a precursor to that. I don't think making a spectacle of yourself or trying to draw attention away from the President on the night of the State of the Union Address is responsible speech. It doesn't matter who the President is and it doesn't matter what the message is.

the hell is the integrity the left claims they have? I don't see, and neither does anyone else.

To quote Tadowe (never thought I would) "Puling Hyporcrits"

Most libs have said both should have been allowed to stay. Just because you don't see the integrity in this stance doesn't mean there isn't one.

STBI

Doesn't anyone find it interesting that Cindy failed to include Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider's warning to her that such displays were not allowed in the House chamber?

IF that is true, and she then refused to remove her shirt or else keep it entirely covered throughout the time in the Chamber, then she was wrong -- IF she was given a prior warning as you stated.

Sanity, you are sort of correct, but only one of those women were arrested: the anti-war one.

I'm curious - did the "pro war" person cover up her teeshirt? If she didn't that's clearly unfair. If she did then it is fair, because Sheehan refused.

SHe shouldn't have been removed either it wasn't a Protest either"

LARRY, WTF does that mean?

Posted by eberly at 2006-02-01 12:29 PM | Reply



Let me please clarify even THAT doesn't make sense to me and I Wrote it.


She should NOT have been removed either. Her T Shirt was not Protesting neither. It's is a T Shirt for God's sake. I don't care if it's Anti War or Pro War message as long as the wearer is behaving themselves and not causing a disturbance it's NOT protesting. NOt at all.


Larry

Jeff posted :

"From where I sit, the remaining discussion really is:

1. Was arresting her excessive?
2. Did a true double-standard exist in regards to the Republican woman wearing her shirt of endorsement?"

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Jeff :

Agreed. And one other point - if, in fact, a "1946 law prohibiting protest" is in place - then the other question would be it's constitutionality.

"Are you libs now suggesting that we igore all the laws that are inconvenient to us?"

You mean follow the example of a President too arrogant to provide probable cause for warrantless searches, even after the fact?

Sanity...
Why are you on a liberal hunt today? Almost every poster is saying the same thing you are: they both should have been removed because of the law. People may want to challenge the law, but no one is saying to patently ignore it. It is what it is.

Jeff posted :

"From where I sit, the remaining discussion really is:

1. Was arresting her excessive?
2. Did a true double-standard exist in regards to the Republican woman wearing her shirt of endorsement?"

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Jeff :

Agreed. And one other point - if, in fact, a "1946 law prohibiting protest" is in place - then the other question would be it's constitutionality.

Jeff posted :

"From where I sit, the remaining discussion really is:

1. Was arresting her excessive?
2. Did a true double-standard exist in regards to the Republican woman wearing her shirt of endorsement?"

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Jeff :

Agreed. And one other point - if, in fact, a "1946 law prohibiting protest" is in place - then the other question would be it's constitutionality.

A stenciled T-shirt is a wearable banner

What if a white kid walked into a public school classroom, took off his coat and sat down wearing a T-shirt stating "I don't like black people"?

Are you saying this kid should NOT be removed from class simply because someone doesn't like his T-shirt?

Posted by Norm_ at 2006-02-01 12:21 PM

Norm, its not the same and you know it. The "I don't like black people"? incites racial hate and violence, where Cindy's shirt just stated the obvious truth about how many soldiers died, 2245, and a question about how many more. What hate or violence does that incite?

But is obvioulsy makes the neo-cons feel guilty for what they are doing, and they just CAN'T have that kind of dissent, ruins the lovefest so to speak, and will attempt to suppress it. But there is that 'goddamned piece of paper' always getting in the way... if only they could 'circumvent' it somehow...

"Both are illegal in the Capitol Building"

Please provide a cite of the code section where this might be found.

Thank you.

Official: Army Has Authority to Spy on Americans

By Jeff Stein, CQ Staff
"Contrary to popular belief, there is no absolute ban on [military] intelligence components collecting U.S. person information," the U.S.Army's top intelligence officer said in a 2001 memo that surfaced Tuesday.

Not only that, military intelligence agencies are permitted to "receive" domestic intelligence information, even though they cannot legally "collect" it," according to the Nov. 5, 2001, memo issued by Lt. Gen. Robert W. Noonan Jr., the deputy chief of staff for intelligence.

I didn't quite get your question FV...

All forms of protest, both for and against, are illegal. If one was arrested, both should have been. It is that simple. It is that clear.

Well said. Good thing voicing one's protest through clapping and standing ovations or not clapping and remaining seated isn't veiwed as a form of protest, huh? LOL

Sorry all. I'm going back and forth between two blogs and getting a little confused. I just got banned from the other one.

Imagine that! Getting banned for excersising my right to Free Speech while arguing with people that insist Sheehan's Free Speech rights were violated.

"What if a white kid walked into a public school classroom, took off his coat and sat down wearing a T-shirt stating "I don't like black people"?

Are you saying this kid should NOT be removed from class simply because someone doesn't like his T-shirt?"

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He has a constitutionally-protected right to express his opinion no matter how offensive I find it.

Schools might be a different venue due to their "in loco parentis" role and the minor status of the students so they do have the ability to have tighter rules.

Let me ask you all a question: What if the "protester" was blind, would their clothing then still be viewed as a statement if the wearer had no cognition of the fact? Does anyone know if the prohibition is limited to signs and clothes, or are any words of any type subject to the same interpretation, including logos of manufacturers? What about American flag lapels? Those are certainly making political statements, aren't they? What says the peanut gallery now?

If Cindy Sheehan wanted to once again upstage Dubya then she surely succeeded.
Today, more people are debating her arrest in relation to freedom of speech than are discussing whatever it was the president said. I watched it but didn't hear him say anything new of real significance. BTW, this plan to train teachers for math and science....will this too go unfunded as did No Child Left Behind??? Or is he really going to ask Congress to spend money on something that benefits America for a change???

By wearing the shirt, she is protesting. If she came in and held up a sign, it would be a protest. The 'sign' didn't protest, but the person brandishing the sign did. In this case, the shirt didn't protest, but the person *wearing* the shirt did.

Posted by jeffj at 2006-02-01 12:05 PM

Is it a protest, or a statement? Wearing pins is fine, showing purple fingers is fine; having a t shirt with a death toll on it is not?

The fact that a republican lady was treated differently for doing much the same thing only shows the abuse of power and loss of rights of an American citizen.
All to the cheers of certain other Americans. Hey that reminds me of something.

Army can not spy on AMericans that would fall on the Posse Cometatus act. Please BashThis do try yet again.

Larry

"I just got banned from the other one. "

Congratulations!

"Official: Army Has Authority to Spy on Americans"

Your source, Bash, is a military officer in charge of spying.

That is not a credible source in regards to the legality of this kind of action. That's the cop saying it's OK for me to beat up your kid because the police have the authority to do so.

The law is the law. The constitution is the ultimate law.

STill not protesting JeffJ no matter how hard you try to make it as such

Larry

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i'm guessing she didnt wear the shirt so that people could see it. its probably just a favorite shirt of hers that she wanted to wear to the SOTU. What a crock. She wore it to be seen. I'm sure she was just casually taking her jacket off and just so happens that shirt was underneath.

Thats funny. What a liar.

Why else would anyone wear that shirt?

Sorry, I don't have the code, but anchors on 4 different networks mentioned that there was a law in place banning it, and apparantly, if Jeff J can find it, it was enacted in 1946. If libs can take teh networks at face value, why can't I?

Sheehan's shirt said "2245 Dead. How many more?"

Beverly Young wore a shirt that said "Support the Troops -- Defending Our Freedom"

Young was "was removed from the gallery because she was wearing a T-shirt"

Sheehan was taken "away in handcuffs and charged her with unlawful conduct"

What is so hard to understand about this obvious double standard?

"BTW, this plan to train teachers for math and science....will this too go unfunded as did No Child Left Behind???"

Any bets?

QUESTION:

Could this not be considered a violation of a "dress code" as opposed to just not allowing any "protests"? Suppose there is a rule where Congressmen must always wear a suit and tie when on the floor of the House and one Congressman shows up in a plain tee-shirt and jeans, would he not also be removed? (Although I doubt seriously they would arrest him.) Sheehan should have been told to exit when a dress code violation was discovered. Not arrested. It's all how you look at it.

Dress code violation?
Or form of protest?

"If libs can take teh networks at face value, why can't I?"

I don't generally take the main stream media at it's face.

where Cindy's shirt just stated the obvious truth about how many soldiers died, 2245, and a question about how many more. What hate or violence does that incite?

When I actually saw Sheehan's shirt, I was suprised. I thought it would be something much more provacative than stating the truth about the number of dead in Iraq.

Let me ask you all a question: What if the "protester" was blind, would their clothing then still be viewed as a statement if the wearer had no cognition of the fact? Does anyone know if the prohibition is limited to signs and clothes, or are any words of any type subject to the same interpretation, including logos of manufacturers? What about American flag lapels? Those are certainly making political statements, aren't they? What says the peanut gallery now?

Posted by tonyroma at 2006-02-01 12:37 PM


Tony, I love this question!!!

How about: What if the "protestor" was FAT? So fat that the only shirt available at the Flea market was this one?

or: What if the "protestor" was Asian and perhaps couldn't READ the shirt - or hispanic, etc...

Dude, I already knew you were Yellow-Bellied Nazi (TM), but you are seriously out there. Remember, Joseph Goebbels was a propagandist too, and he ended up shooting himself in the head and poisoning his three kids.

Posted by FVZ at 2006-01-31 10:53 PM | Reply

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and every 1000 of your responses that use your TM catch all remain a very diluted and tired defense to whatever you cant argue.

The double standard (in my estimation) probably has more to do with the fact that Young is the wife of a Congressman.

KANREI

You're right. She just should have been removed from the area. Or at least given a chance to leave rather than outright arresting her on the spot.

CailChris,

Sgt. Schneider said she gave Sheehan prior warning. If Cindy says she did not receive prior warning but the Sargent diifers and says she did...I believe the Sargent. But that's just me.

CailChris,

Sgt. Schneider said she gave Sheehan prior warning. If Cindy says she did not receive prior warning but the Sargent diifers and says she did...I believe the Sargent. But that's just me.

Good point, Tony Roma.

What if the protest was written in Maya glyphs?