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Sunday, July 31, 2005

Only 8 percent of the guests on the major Sunday morning talk shows over the past 18 months were African Americans, with three people accounting for the majority of those appearances, according to a new study by the National Urban League. [Washington Post]

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And what is the percentage of Afro-Americans that are in a position to appear on Sunday talk shows? (Confession: I am in church at the time these are on, so I don't watch them.)

CBS News' "Sunday Morning" is the best thing on TV.

So what. How many people named John Smith were on these shows. John Smith's of the world Unite.

I agree with WATERBOY, that is is not a matter of being slighted by these programs. These news shows address current issues and seek commentary from a variety of persons, in particular those invovled in the situations under study. Hence, how can the percentage of blacks as guests on the shows be in some number greater than the percentage reflected in the story-at-hand. I suppose the same figures would be represented when studying the presence of other groups, such as the Hispanic community. I resent the "slant" that this article takes, i.e., citing racial prejudice somehow involved in the motives.

As long as the racial percentage is not the same as any type of percentage they are doing their polls it will be a racial issue regardless of the fact it is creditable or not.

These type of pollsters are only looking for one thing. Racial discrimination at what ever they can find.

Pope Ular I is absolutely correct, the only good thing is the news. I wonder, when football season starts will they do the polls again.

(To borrow from Hooligan)

In other news, no bad spellers are being invited to appear on Sunday political talk shows. Bad spellers of the world, untie!

I must say that I liked "CBS Sunday Morning" better back when Charles Kuralt hosted.

Wonder how much money was wasted finding out this useless information?

Blacks make up about 12% of the US population. So 8% of the TV guests being black is not a gross underrepresentation.

What percentage of the talk show hosts are democrats vs. the rest of the population?
I bet republican hosts are a more underrepresented minority than blacks.

Carl Brutaninadilewski

I fail to see why and how republicans need representation. They seem to get into the spot light everyday whether it is good or bad.

If you ask me, libertarians are the most underrepresented, but you would not want that issue brought forth because they would probably kick you Repo arses.

The real problem is that these shows and most newspapers insist on a bigoted format by insisting that their guests speak or write in English. It's an outrage.

Thank God for BET where ebonics is encouraged, and Telemundo which acknowledges the necessity of a Spanish channel for our undocumented visitors.

"...The study showed that only three black House members -- Reps. Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.), Jesse L. Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) and Harold E. Ford Jr. (D-Tenn.) -- and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) have appeared as guests..."

And with the exception of Obama, who gives a flying shit what these dopes have to say?

By the way - EVERY single time I see an NFL cornerback interviewed -- he's AFRICAN-AMERICAN! What the hell is the freking URBAN LEAGUE and the NAACP doing about that??

Such a load of crap...

Dr. J

You know, I've noticed that there are a large proportion of players in the NBA who are black. Way more than the 12% of the population of the US that blacks constitute. This obviously has nothing to do with their ability to play basketball, its only because big wigs in the NBA like david stein hate white people.


seriously though, i think racism would go away much faster if people stoped tracking things like this. All it does is put racism in the news. Perfect equality isnt about sunday tv shows having a proportional number of blacks to whites to hispanics. Equality is when nobody seems to notice.

err....david stern....

Quitbitching,
Your right. We are Americans, and as long as we devide oursevles with useless facts like this we will be devided Americans

Why is it that in Milwaukee I find there to be a disproportionate number of women and black newscasters on public TV? In fact its hard to find a white man anymore. Oh excuse me! You were talking about guests?

Jews don't bitch and whine?
You've obviously have never read a GZ Lives rant.

Just Another Nameless Visitor

Hey Newyawker, stop bitching and moaning and go back to your Park Slope brownstone...

I'm curious as to where the National Urban League and the NAACP stand on the Neo-lynching that was performed on Clarence Thomas. Or how about Janice Rogers Brown and that Latino judge?

Uncle Tom is alive and well, and he goes by the name of Charles Rangel. And what did that guy do, swallow some acid? Nice voice you fucking Commie.

I have zero respect for studies like this. Simply counting black people on these shows and coming up with a small number doesn't prove racism. And I question the motives of those who claim it does.

Do your homework and show that black guests are not being invited to appear in favor of less qualified white guests and I'll say you have evidence of racism. There are other ways as well. But don't sit on your ass watching TV and expect me to think you've done any kind of research that proves bias.

Jim

It's not just color that's missing. It's any point of view outside of mainstream beltway opinion. Nothing but political hacks and politicians from the two main political parties can be found on the so-called "liberal media". When the last time someone who isn't a corporate shill, like Ralph Nader, was on these programs?

That's because they are sleeping off the malt liquor from Saturday night.

Hey, if a half-Black/half-Hispanic Republican Woman were on one of those shows would that count as 3 or more?

Hmmm.... The U.S. population is 80% white, 13% black. That means that every National Basketball Association Roster should be mandated to have 10 whites and two blacks. (Total Roster of 12).

Hmmm.... The U.S. population is 80% white, 13% black. That means that every National Basketball Association Roster should be mandated to have 10 whites and two blacks. (Total Roster of 12).

Hmmm.... The U.S. population is 80% white, 13% black. That means that every National Basketball Association Roster should be mandated to have 10 whites and two blacks. (Total Roster of 12).

sorry about the repeats....

Have you noticed that any comments that are honest about the poor attitude and consistent racism of the African-American community do not get posted?

Content is being heavily censored on the Drudge Report.

Maybe we could get them to show reruns of C.O.P.S. on Sunday morning. That should balance everything out.

"Have you noticed that any comments that are honest [what he really means is racist] about the poor attitude and consistent racism of the African-American community do not get posted?"

Bullshit. Rightwing paranoia. Your hero must be Joe McCarthy.

Let me see if I got this right.

Not enough black people are getting into news, but too many black people are getting into news.

www.washingtonpost.com

So, you have a gang of black murderers and theives but you can't describe the suspects pursuant to their race because that is racism. But if you don't have enough blacks in news reports it's also racism?

Truth itself seems to be racist.

"Truth itself seems to be racist."


Good post.

Maybe we could get them to show reruns of C.O.P.S. on Sunday morning. That should balance everything out.

Posted by visitor at 2005-08-01 03:13 PM | Reply| IP

Hardly! That would help get drunk white guys in wife beaters get equal time though!

"Hardly! That would help get drunk white guys in wife beaters get equal time though!"

At least half the time the drunk white guys on COPS are shirtless.

You ever wonder where guys get their wife beaters, by the way? Other than the Seaside Heights boardwalk, I've never seen them in any store. Yet is a popular look in some parts of NJ when the weather is nice. I played poker with a guy in a wife beater two weeks ago.

Jim

Jim,
You should have asked him where he got it!
I never go to a clothes store so I wouldn't have a clue as to who sells them. Somebody must though because my wifes brother wears them (22 years old, typical dumbass). The wife beater (non COPS version) is usually accompanied by jewelry and cologne...hair gel where applicable.

"Williams, a senior correspondent for National Public Radio and an analyst for Fox News Sunday, is the only African American who appears regularly on a Sunday morning talk show."

The conservative FOX News doing more for the minorities. Once again we see the liberals holding the minorities back and the conservatives giving them a chance to stand up and be recognized for something other than being needy.

"You ever wonder where guys get their wife beaters, by the way?"

I get mine at Wal-Mart.

Bubba Clinton

The Waterboy 1-step Test for Finding a Classy Person Who Is Male:
1. Plain white Hanes brand t-shirt: dinnerwear or undergarment?

You can probably guess which constitutes classy.

(Being a male all of my life, having a Dad, and living in a college dorm would make me a good arbiter, I would think.)

Waterboy,
The plain white t-shirt oozes class, especially the encrusted yellow pit stains!
JAUN Williams....hmmm, could this also boost the hispanic presence?
I am bored to tears with Jaun Williams. My wife is a rabid NPR listener (and WBFO member). Anytime we watch Brit Hume, Jaun's opinions are the only ones that are accepted by my wife...Brainwashed NPR listener.

"You should have asked him where he got it!"

I almost did. Or at least I was tempted to use it to get a cheap laugh. But we were in his house with his family there, I had just met him, he was a nice guy and I was winning.

Next time no excuses.

Jim

"1. Plain white Hanes brand t-shirt: dinnerwear or undergarment?"

You forgot the plain white tee as the perfect accessory for any 40+ man to wear during yardwork. You know the look. That's when the plain white tee is not only sweaty, but covered in dirt and grass stains (maybe some grease and gasoline too) and has holes in it (because a white tee without holes is more for formal occasions).

My old man's perfected that one.

Jim


I think the reasons are as diverse as the complaints that are made. First, the liberals in control of the media do not want the blacks on. They want their white democratic masters to tell them republicans are bad and will resell them into slavery if they don't continue to vote for democrats.

Second, the media certainly does not want someone who can tell the public what the Black people really think (Rev. Al would echo my first. I think Bill Cosby, Dr. Rice and Justice Thomas, J.C. Watts could also chime in here) That would be an enlightening experiance. And it may put the dems in the position of being forced to publicly ridicule the black leadership. It may also make white america wake up and realize what blacks consider to be equality. (In otherwords, they represent 12% but want 50% of the face time.)

The fact is that most blacks that have made it to the level that would be of interest to these shows are the bane of the democratic party and didn't get there by making the word "Racist" a part of their mantra.



I wear the plain white T (with yellow pits and holes) for yard-work all the time! They are usually always one size oo small as well (from repeated drying) My wife is horrified that I wear those in public! She won't let me wear them under my dress shirts and I refuse to throw them out.
It's like a favorite pair of sneakers (tennis shoes to you Pittsburgh fucks)...Unless they have completely fallen apart (and even then) I refuse to trash them. The good news is New Balance take the biggest ass kicking and keep on ticking!

Dad has the holy yardwork shirt thing going pretty well, too. He also wears an old, old trucker-style hat with an equally old sweatband.

I like to get old workboots and shorts back in style.

"The fact is that most blacks that have made it to the level that would be of interest to these shows are the bane of the democratic party and didn't get there by making the word "Racist" a part of their mantra."

Yep, A_Citizen, I'm sure that most blacks feel comfortable in a party where spokespersons here make such inclusive and welcoming comments as:

"...we have been kissing the asses of afreakin Americans for 200 years . The only thing you can do for them is give them each as many white women , gold chains , mercedes or BMWs as they can handle ."


Posted by rightnut at 2005-07-22 05:28 PM

Hans,

Instead they choose to be in the party that refers to Dr. Rice and Sec. Powell as "House N*****" and constantly belittles the success of people like Justice Thomas, contending that they have sold out.

I also like what Rev. Al had to say last week about the blind alegiance that blacks have paid to the democratic party in exchange for nothing but more chains and subregation. Remember how Rev. Al was made into the joke of the 2004 election?

"Williams, a senior correspondent for National Public Radio and an analyst for Fox News Sunday, is the only African American who appears regularly on a Sunday morning talk show."

The conservative FOX News doing more for the minorities. Once again we see the liberals holding the minorities back and the conservatives giving them a chance to stand up and be recognized for something other than being needy.

Posted by visitor at 2005-08-01 04:15 PM | Reply| IP

Really? I had no idea NPR was now conservative.

the dems appeal is to people who have resentment for the mainstream /most successful minorities don't have a lot gripes about the us so the media as an extention of the left does not show them /you will notice how the people with humble
backgrounds are treated by the left when
bush appoints them(rice/gonzales/brown)
jasman

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