But I thought Republicans were all about family values? Wait. Oh. Ummm.... AAAAAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!!

*BOOM*

Oh Oh, the nazicons are starting to eat their own.

Those Texas girls know their horse cock!
That's why 7.5 inches just don't impress 'em.

I would give malkin something to get offended about.

Just because 2 people share political leanings, does not mean they will agree on all issues. I thought Laura's horse cock joke was hilarious, as did my wife. That being said, I am sure more than just Malkin found the joke to be offensive.

Way off topic -

I would love to see a thread about the Professor who wrote a book trashing Bill Cosby for his comments regarding the inner-city black community. Anybody care to hijack the thread? I'd love to hear some of your thoughts on the subject.

Anything to change the subject, eh Jeff?

Michelle Malkin just got some free publicity by breaking her loyalty oath ever so slightly. She may have also missed a couple of doses of Rovian kool-aid.

Doesn't she get that Georgie's approval ratings are on a par with Anne Coulter's integrity? Lower than Murphy's panties after a couple of gins?

Georgie NEEDS Laura to bail him out since the War on Social Security and the Iraqi Civil War are going so badly.

Um, Can we stay on topic and leave my panties out of this?

Murphy

Now I'm starving.

So what was the tastless joke? Inquiring minds want to know?

OK, sorry. Let's leave Murphy's panties off. This thread, I mean.

"Eyebrows were raised by the first lady's bit about the president's ranching skills, which Mrs. Bush said her husband lacked because the elite schools he attended, Andover and Yale, "don't have a real strong ranching program."
She then added: "He's learned a lot about ranching since that first year when he tried to milk the horse. What's worse, it was a male horse." "

Rather inane, eh?

WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN. WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!"-Mrs. Lovejoy, Simpsons


Now why is this ok with the so-called Moral Majority? Personally, I found it funny, but I think the president jerking off a horse would be hard to explain to children. If Janet Jackson caused so much of a rucus and she is only a singer, what should we tell our children about the married first lady going to strip clubs, her husband masterbating a horse, and her being a "despatate housewife"?
I have no problem personally with these jokes, but it does show a glaring loophole in their morality. Do as we say, not as we do.

They don't make horse masturbation jokes like they used to I guess. This is what Ms. Malkin has her panties in a bunch about?

"She may have also missed a couple of doses of Rovian kool-aid."

I see. So when one republican agrees with another republican, they are "lemmings," "sheep," "partisan hacks," etc. But when one republican disagrees with another republican, they simply "missed a couple doses of kool-aid." Can republicans ever get any credit, or at least escape the constant bashing from all of the liberal pricks with nothing better to do than knit-pick someone's reaction to a joke?

Gal
I think Michelle's just jealous of farm girls.
Even the average horse makes Joe Soap look teeeeny.

Hi, I'm Joe and calling people I don't know and who have not referred to me in any way, "pricks", is just one of my many endearing qualities. Others include a 4 inch thick skull and 7.5 cm dick.

I'm corky, and my lack of any coherent thought is more than made up for by my constant spoofing.

You know, I really felt that Malkin was over-reacting. However, when I read the entire article, her point did have some merit. I still think she needs to lighten up a bit. However, she is hot so I will cut her some slack. Perhaps she needs to spend an evening with Joe Soap. She'd probably end up being a bit more relaxed, although she'd be walking kind of funny.

Joe,
"She may have also missed a couple of doses of Rovian kool-aid."
This WAS a compliment.

This Malkin person needs to lighten up. She even complains about that South Park episode that was beeped 162 times when in fact the show was: 1) making fun of shows like NYPD Blue that use swearing to attract viewers (and the people who tune in just to hear "ass" on TV) and 2) saying that curse words should be reserved for rare occasions.

Kanrei - How do you explain the horse joke to a kid? One of two ways: "Its funny because he thought you can milk a horse and you can't" or "Its a joke for grown ups". Every time a small child demands an explanation over something, we don't have to give to them. I'm not saying you're guilty of this, but it seems like alot of parents today are afraid to say no to their kids and its creating a generation of little jerks.

Malkin's envious of Coulter and trying some way to open the door a crack and get some of that cash ... know what I mean.

I love Laura Bush. she's his only redeeming quality as far as I'm concerned. She's got the sweetest sounding voice and I can't get enough of her accent. The routine she did was incredible and the writer should really take a bow because he gave her the perfect lines for her voice and natural character.

Kanrei,

It was all pretty funny, especially coming from Laura. Malkin was right when she said....

"And let's face it: If Teresa ("I'm cheeky!") Heinz Kerry had delivered Mrs. Bush's First Lady Gone Mildly Wild routine, social conservative pundits would be up in arms over her bad taste and lack of dignity."

My question is, does this qualify as PULING HYPOCRACY?, not so much from Laura, but from her religious rightwing Rovian joke writers.

Laura made fun of the fact that George goes to bed early, doesn't like to read, can't pronounce nuclear, isn't good in bed and once jerked off a horse. Here's what David Corn wrote about the event:

(I wondered how social conservative leader James Dobson, who was scheduled to be at the dinner, reacted.) It was not hard to figure out why the White House decided to have Laura upstage George. Her approval rating is almost twice his, and his number--in the mid-40s--are at a record low. But an HBO routine? Afterward, both Al Franken and Bill Maher were complaining that they could not have gotten away with that horse joke.

I guess things have changed since .......

That same horse joke was told to me by my grandfather many years ago
(gasp)I was a kid! what was he thinking??
it was funny then, it is now...
but in the forum that it was presented by Bushie's better half....?

Naw it is still funny!!!

Anybody who has spent any time at all at a farm or ranch has heard that joke run into the ground. And it's not a masturbation joke unless you want to make it one. It's a cityslicker joke.

Given the occasion, I thought her little routine was about as good as she could do. A little self-deprecating humor goes a long way. I read one shrill clown who criticized her because she wasn't 'honoring her husband'.

I believe their is more sympathy than antipathy toward her.

BTW: I liked the chainsaw one better.

I wonder if she is offended at Viagra commercials--rather than a joke told at a PRIVATE DINNER.


Anyone here want to explain to your child what a 4 hour erection is? Well, besides, a gift from God?

I thought Laura did a good job of reading her lines which were written by someone else. She looked great too and it seemed to me that the crowd lover her routine.
Michelle Malkin is apparently some right wing commentator that I am not aware of and after reading her comments I don't see anything to make me start bothering.
One thing she said though was so hilarious:
""Heritage Foundation president Ed Feulner called on his audience to resist the coarsened rhetoric of our time: "If we are to prevail as a free, self-governing people, we must first govern our tongues and our pens. Restoring civility to public discourse is not an option. It is a necessity."

The Heritage Foundation's basic principles are obscene no matter how polite the language that expresses them is. Mr. Feulner is obscene. Did I say that civilly enough???

And to think that Laura is a CHAIN SMOKER to boot.

And conservatives joke about horse masturbation. And strip clubs!!??

And I don't like South Park, much.

While,

You misunderstood the point I was trying to make. Of course Soap is a self-admitted racist/bigot. Nevertheless, he delivered his retort to Dumpling with a sense of sarcastic humor. That is all.

You and Stormy SHOULD worry about me, but not on this particular issue.

I will click your link momentarily. I am irritated at Rogers for not posting a thread on this subject. I think it warrants serious discussion and really isn't that partisan of a subject.

A FOUR HOUR ERECTION?!? Honey, You buy the gin, I'll pin my fucking ankles behind my ears!

Theocracy Watch: More Americans are Getting on Board the Jesus Land Express

New Poll: Americans Warming to Theocracy

A new poll reveals that Americans are steadily warming to the idea of replacing the nation's highly-touted democracy with a theocracy, in which a handful of religious leaders make decisions for all citizens based on divine guidance.

46% want to replace Electoral College with 'Electoral Conclave'

By Deanna Swift

WASHINGTON, DCâ€"A poll released this week reveals that Americans are steadily warming to the idea of replacing the nation's once highly-touted democracy with a theocracy, a form of governance in which a handful of religious leaders lead on the basis of divine guidance.

The release of the poll's findings follows weeks of round-the-clock religious programming on cable news channels, comes on the heels of the selection of a new Pope, and indicates that Americans may finally be tiring of the separation between church and state.

Do you believe?
The poll, based on 2,130 telephone interviews conducted between Friday and Tuesday, found that 62% of Americans now believe that God intended for the United States to be a theocracy, while 23% said that they had no opinion on the matter or were unable to answer polling questions because they were currently attending a Christian church service or were watching such a service on television. A further 14% said they either belonged to or had given money to the ACLU at least once in their lifetime.

"And to think that Laura is a CHAIN SMOKER to boot"

No, No

Well that killed my crush......


cancer sticks suck

Jeff,
I think I understood Jeff. Even though you were the only one to comprehend what Dump was doing, somehow you still found Dumpling's apporach vulgar, hostile and counterproductive to his ultimate goal, yet you found Soap's post (and previous rantings of his) somehow funny and "poingant." The characterization of Soap's vitrol as "mirth" just about blew my mind. Cosby and I are VERY dissapointed in you young man.

I love sucking horse cock because I have "you guessed it" LPOD

I thought her slamming Dubya's "cowboy" persona was hilarious. Sad thing is, as others have pointed out, if a "liberal" had made fun of Dubya's fake Texan schtick, and pointing out his effete eastern background,the conservatives would be howling.
Can't wait until next year, when she outs him!

While,

"mirth" was a poor choice of word. Soapy delivered his prejudiced view with sarcastic humor, but it didn't change the underlying tone of what he was saying. If you remember, once I figured out what Dumpling was doing, I changed my tone, big time. I complimented the cleverness of his approach and pointed out the irony in what he said, which Jiffy eloquently expanded on.

You and Cosby have NOTHING to be disappointed about in that particular exchange.

BTW - I read the link and pretty much agree with Cosby's take. What say you?

I grew up in the country as well, and that joke is one about how ignorant city-slickers are, not about masturbation. The fact that Malkin, et al. (including everyone here) immediately thought she was talking about masterbation shows that the joke still has legs: Everyone in the urban areas are up in arms about this, while the rural folk are shrugging their shoulders and yawning over an old joke.

Gal, I believe that link is a joke. Drudge (matt, that is) had it linked for like 5 minutes... then took it off.

I've read some Malkin and some of it is okay, but I'm going to have to put a checkbox next to her name in the "doesn't get jokes" column.

Rand

Um, in case you guys haven't figured it out:

A few minutes ago, the Drudge Report briefly linked to an article from The Swift Report entitled, "Conservative Christians Not Laughing at First Lady's Comedy Act."

Upon reading that, I immediately suspected that something was amiss, so I did a few easy Google searches and quickly discovered that the "Coalition for Traditional Values" does not exist, and "Roy DeLong" is actually just a recurring (presumably fictional) character in the Swift Report's satires of the Religious Right, including such articles as "Bush Blasts Homosexual Energy Agenda" and "SpongeBob Denies Reports that He's Gay."

Drudge has since taken the link down, but Andrew Sullivan is still linking to it.

Rand,

Right you are. As far as I can tell, the Swift Report is kind of like the Onion. I figured I better point that out before someone like Malkin took it seriously.

Can republicans ever get any credit, or at least escape the constant bashing from all of the liberal pricks with nothing better to do than knit-pick someone's reaction to a joke?

Posted by JOE at May 4, 2005 01:30 PM | Reply


No.

The people attacking Bush's 'manliness' need to get out more. In many cultures it is perfectly acceptable for same-sex hetero pairs to hug, stroll arm-in-arm or even with their arm on the other's back. Nobody thinks anything of it. This particular attack is not deserved. They are good friends (not necessarily a good thing).

And now you've done it, got me defending both Bushes on the same thread.

Nice call, Fred!

How's my favorite non-neo conservative these days? (sorry JeffJ) Still got the SUV with the yellow ribbon on it? (like a rosary on a whore, some commie lib once said ;^)

Keep on postin', ayn. Less room for Queenie and her ilk.

The evangelicals love them anyway. Someday they'll realize that Bush didn't give a flying fuck about them or their religion.

Jeff,
Ok I'll talk with you about this, but I'm leaving if soapy shows up.

Coz has lived just about every aspect of the spectrum of black american existence. He was not born a millionare. He lived his youth in urban Philly in the 1940's. He's a navy man, and earned an athletic scholarship to Temple. He (side by side with Sidney P) pioneered positive black images in the media in the midst of the "blaxploitation" pimps, prosiutes and pushers era. The guy has the credibility to say pretty much anything he wants to his brothers and sisters. It is important to recognize that Cosby's criticism was not a broad generalization, but was directed at those whom it applies to. When you know the difference, and CARE about the fortunes of those you are criticizing you have the credibility to make such distinctions and "nuance."

The professor who has "so harshly" criticized Coz, has actually said much of Cosby's commentary was applicable. The crux of his arguement is that those who have succeeded in spite of their environments and those who have successfully PARENTED within these enviornments have done so not becuase they are necessarily of better charcter, or "pulling their weight better" but because they were given the tools do so. He makes good points.

I tend to land on the Cosby side, but only slightly. People who are choosing self destructive paths through ghettos and poverty have personal responsiblity for their actions. At the same time, people need guidance and support to improve themselves and their station. There is no such thing as "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps." The "self made man" is a myth. Everyone gets varying degrees of support, guidance, education and role models. Someone either gave you the boots, or showed you how to wear them. The middle class (black or white) has a tendancy to forget just how much good guidance and support they receive.

Coz' points are valid and the critics points are valid. That some desire this conflict of viewppoints be seen as a "liberal dogfight" for media consumption just makes me glad that black politics have become irrelevant to the mainstream culture.

And now you've done it, got me defending both Bushes on the same thread.

Sanguine,

It wasn't that obvious from the article on Laura supposedly being taken to task for her jokes that the site itself was a joke (even Matt Drudge fell for it for a short time!). If you had read the article on the theocracy poll stats though, you would have picked up on it.

While,

Where I had a problem with the professor was his insinuation that Coz wasn't qualified to comment on the strife. That was just wrong IMO.

I agree about the self-made man....It's not a complete myth, but it's extraordinarily rare.

I do think Gangsta rap has been a bit of a detriment to the black community. I certainly don't advocate any form of censorship, I just wish the black community would shun some of the bile that's being spewed by some of these rappers.

What I liked most about Coz's statements were those of parenting and personal responsiblity. He essentially said, "Screw the victim mentatlity and do something with your life."

"if a "liberal" had made fun of Dubya's fake Texan schtick, and pointing out his effete eastern background,the conservatives would be howling."

Your wife has a little more leeway with regard to joking around about your little idiosyncracies than someone who doesn't know you that is trying to assassinate your character.

The Bushes are just religious people, not a bunch of prudish bible thumpers. It's about time you people figured that out.

The Bushes are just religious people, not a bunch of prudish bible thumpers. It's about time you people figured that out.

By the way, I didn't watch the speach. But when I read this headline, I thought "The first lady said 'horse cock'"? Then I come to find out she didn't use that word at all.

I think this site is being little misleading - putting the "cock" in Laura's mouth like that.

"Why is Bush so hostile to the idea of gay marriage? Perhaps because until 1987, George W. Bush was gay. According to a group of 29 Yale classmates who comprise Gay Ivy Leaguers for Truth, Bush was "known to be at least sexually experimental throughout his time in college." One of Bush's alleged former boyfriends, Anthony Berusca (class of '70), told The Dallas Morning News that Bush was "deeply conflicted about being gay, even somewhat self-hating." Berusca is convinced that this conflict led to Bush's drinking problems, but describes the President as a "gentle, caring lover". In 1986, the Bush family arranged for George to join Worthy Creations, a church group in El Paso that focuses on converting homosexuals through faith. A year later, Bush claimed to be straight, born again, and engaged to Laura Welch (Kitty Kelly in THE FAMILY wrote that Bush's twin daughters were not his offspring, but from a donor at a fertility clinic). Bush at all-male Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts was "head" cheerleader. Drama club and cheerleading are where the gay boys hang out. George earned the nickname Lips Bush for his skill at giving blow jobs to his fraternity buddies, according to Kitty Kelley. Bush has gay-style excrement nick names for the people he hangs out with: "Turdblossom" term for Karl Rove Note the classic juxtaposition of the obscene with the feminine to come up with a nickname for a gay man. For example, the late David Lewis went under the name Sally Suckemsilly. "Bulldog" term for both Victor Ashe and Jeff Gannon aka Jim Gluckert "Pooty Poot" term for Vladimir Putin, Russian President. "Mr. Big O" term for lispy treasury secretary Paul O'Neill."
â€"Roedy Green, The Wit and Wisdom of George Bush

Rosary on a whore! Fucking Hillarious.

Jeff,
I posted a spiel on Gangsta Rap some time ago. An unforutnate confluence of youth buying power, mass marketing to an adolecent male consumer, and the social costs and violence of a drug epidemic/prohibition/black market (see Chicago 1920's) brought to our shores by our Banana Republic cold war allies. Yes, gangsta rap has not been a positive influence on black americans, but it is just another manifestation of the out of control consumerism that has compromised the value systems of many quarters of American culture.

This concept of "victimhood" I take with a grain of salt. Yes there are those who lack the eloquence to describe there circumstances and the path to those circumstances with any more depth than "the man holding me down" but there is a greater dynamic at play. It is impossible for those living in truly desperate circumstances not to be aware of how far first base is from home plate. For them to notice that those who begin life on first base are now beyond the horizon is not some phychological weakness know as "victimhood." In my opionon it is evidence of their remaining hope.
Victimhood is our middle class perjorative for those who we have left behind. It is our way to forget just how much help we've had and how many handouts we've taken along the way - from family, friends, society, church etc. And how we are failing to provide guidance support and "boots" for those who come next. Bill, unlike many middle and upper class "poor bashers" has provided quite a few pairs of boots in his day.
Rather than diagnosing them with a "condition" I think Coz was demanding better from those who were capable of hearing his message. Any parent with a child in an orange jumpsuit who knows what quality parenting is and knows they failed to provide it should answer the call because odds are they've got another one in the oven.

The one's who don't even know that first base is out there anymore really are "victims." Schizophrenics generally don't know that they are crazy. The truly hopeless poor/marginalized/criminalized don't even have a concept of a different life. How do we lay blame at their feet for not achieving it? I really don't know what the answer is for them.

WHILE THE GETTING IS GOOD
Good job of un-over-simplifying the problems of the poor, especially youth.
It is so easy, and I have seen it so, so, so many times, for those who grew up in at least middle class surroundings to judge those who grow up in surroundings that are like war zones.
How many of the middle class kids actually see someone die from a gun shot wound, right on the street, right in front of their house. How many of them have had to try to be positive about school in an environment that punishes positivity.
Of course you will get a lot of criticism from righties for dignifying "victims" but it was a great post.

Let me tell you about George's gag reflex! Unreal. And I thought Wilbur was all that.

just another example of "victimhood", and one I find the most disgusting, is this current trend of "majority as victim". It has always been around, of course, but it is heavily prevalent how, since it forms the base of Busche's Fox News propaganda arm- namely, what John Stewart aptly labeled "the rage of the franchised".

If I hear any more whining about how bad the poor little rich people have it, or about how hard the 'white man' has it, my head is going to explode.

And before all the idiots start whining, I am an very long unemployed white adult male. I have ten years of very good experience in a technical field, and have been unemployed for almost two years. But you dont hear me blaming affirmative action or immigrants or whatever for my problems.

Could I have tried harder or done things differently? Of course. But life is a series of decisions, some good and some bad. My continued unemployment is partially the result of my bad decisions, and partially just a bad job market over which I have no control.

Rather than express jealousy over those who are getting hired or still employed, I focus my energy into learning what Im doing wrong and into self improvement. Yes, the President doesnt give a shit about keeping Americans employed. Life is rough, but that isnt an excuse. It is, however, a reason why one of Ken Lay's long time friends shouldnt be 'leading' (and i use the term loosely) our country.

Danni,

Perhaps certain righties will criticize While's post, but not THIS rightie. It really was an excellent post and causes serious thought.

Danni,
Thanks I'm a spoiled middle class kid, who easily could have been one to turn my back, but I was RAISED to think of those less fortunate with dignity and respect. Now I volunteer with youth poverty programs and gang interevntion and I see firsthand just how great are the giants upon whose shoulders I stand.

BTW, I've owed you an apology for some time. When I first started reading and posting here I assumed this was a friendly enviornment with plenty of respect to go around. From that context, I misread all the misogynist and homophobic comments directed your way as "all in good fun. " I participated in the poor behavior myself in early posts thinking it was fun loving "we all like girls" humor. As I read the blog over the following weeks I learned it was NOT. You put up with a hell of a lot here and it takes character to wade through all that abuse. You have my respect for that if nothing else. I apologize for subjecting you to my own prejudices and poor understanding of the hostilities you stand in defiance of.

Someguy,
Chris Rock did a great routine on affirmative action. AfirmAaction is not affecting white or black A & B students. AA is about what happens to everybody's C students. White C students have "Legacy" minority (and women) C strudents have Afirmative Action.
Affirmative Action opens the doors for our C students to be the manager of Starbucks. LEGACY opens the doors for their C students to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Goodnight DC!!!!

I certainly enjoyed Laura's scripted comedy routine because she made dubya look like an emasculated horse's ass who doesn't have much interest in sex with women. What I don't understand is why any man would encourage his wife to publicly humiliate him. At least she didn't make him look as asinine as he appeared last year with his "still searchin' for those doggone WMDs" routine.

I'm testing my new theory- I am presently the owner of a fake news website. My theory is that Liberals will cite any source that tells them what they want to hear, and that my website will become famous among Liberal media over time. I obviously won't share the name of the website for at least a few months, I'm just letting you know that it's out there. Stay tuned...

Great idea Frank
We already know dittoheads will do that.
Getting rid of everyone who only looks for reinforcement of their fiercely held beliefs will make it very quiet here.

Kind of like Fox News Frank?

TERROR ALERT: ELEVATED.

BTW what does ELEVATED mean, anyway?
Compared to What?

Zat- I'm not sure there if you're trying to insult me or encourage me, but I'm not trying to 'get rid of' anyone. I want the Liberal media to continue their habit of citing any source that supports their position, no matter how unsubstantiated. The only difference between my news and the 'news' published by other Liberal websites is that I'm only kidding. In fact, rumor has it that a rather well-known liberal media outlet has latched on to my site already- this is really going to be fun. This is the last you'll hear me mention this for quite some time- I want to see how far I can take it...

Frank I'm trying to have fun.
And I've enjoyed many of your posts.
Keep it up. And polish those brass knucks!

Frank,

I think that is absolutely hilarious!

I would be immensely appreciative if you would drop me an email with the site's URL so I can check it out.

I'm also interested to see if some of the bloggers on this site start inadvertantly referencing my articles over time...

I really don't know what the elevated bullshit means. It's always on the crawler on the bottom of the screen. I'll bet Frank has something on his web site.

Jeff J- no offense, but this will only work the way that I want it to if nobody (and I do mean nobody), knows what the site is. I'm very good at keeping secrets, so I'll have to say no. When I decide to let it leak out, you'll be on the first distribution list- I promise.

Frank,


"I'm also interested to see if some of the bloggers on this site start inadvertantly referencing my articles over time..."

And when it happens it'll be all you can do to refrain calling them on it.

Jeff J- now ix-nay on the ebsite-way. I will speak of it no further :)

Good god, Jeff J. You sound like a giddy little schoolgirl.

Jeff J. and Frank-
Has it ocurred to y'all that you are postmodernists in the most base and pejorattive sense of the word?

Frank,
Jesus H Christ on a cracker, how much frickin' free time do you have? Posting tought guy threats on here doesn't chew up all the time you get away from your duties as BT's "Gimp?"
Get a goddamn job before I puch you in the face . . . Bitch.

Frank,
Jesus H Christ on a cracker, how much frickin' free time do you have? Posting tought guy threats on here doesn't chew up all the time you get away from your duties as Bushlover's "Gimp?"
Get a goddamn job before I puch you in the face . . . Bitch.

You're bluffing Frank. A person doesn't launch a website to keep it a secret.

Jeff J- now ix-nay on the ebsite-way. I will speak of it no further :)

Posted by Frank Cotton at May 4, 2005 05:15 PM | Reply

It's stricktly on the hush-hush, you see, which is why he mentioned it several times in the last hour.

AK- on the contrary, I'm a very busy man- I own and run a very successful business (a reasonably well-known company). In fact, I have spoofers handle the violent threats for me now when I'm too busy to post.

Thanks for your concern about my time though- but don't worry, I can handle it.

Jeff,
Quit humping Frank's leg.

Hey Frank, I see your boyfriend's back.

"Has it ocurred to y'all that you are postmodernists in the most base and pejorattive sense of the word?"

That's Jeff's speciality: meta-commentary.

so anyway- back to this the blog-

What's with the 'South Park Conservative' nonsense? What about those 'Star Trek Liberals'? - can we talk about them for a while?

Boyd,

Has it occurred to you that your insult was meaningless in the most base and perjorative sense of the word?

Misspelled meta-commentary at that.

Man, at lest four typo's in jst a few posts. I'm catcking on tu thes blogging thng.

Realy rokin' nowe!

You mean you're launching a left wing version of NEWSMAX ?

Keep it up while and you'll have a mouthful of teeth.

They say black people talk funny, but that's a mif...

Perjorative, that's better!

Satr Trek liberal: Do I play Kahn or sell another Cordoba?

Jeff J.-
Has it occurred to you that you merely need to look up "post-modernism" (as defined by idiots on the right), and "pejorative" before you respond?

While,

Yes I realize affirmative action is just replacing one method of rewarding meritlessness with another. There was a very interesting study (was it by Harvard?) in the past six months or so which studied the recipients of A.A. benefits. They were NOT the lower/middle class people who they were designed to give a "leg up" for.

Rather, they were being used by affluent minorities and wealthy foreign immigrants who used it as a way to spend Government money rather than their own, and to get preferential treatment in the job market (translation- a cushie job).

So yes, like many things comedians (and especially people like Rock and Chappelle) say, it pokes fun at the absurdity of the actual truth. Small wonder "The Daily Show" is ranked as more relevant and factual than anything Fox News or CNN put forth.

Rather than dumbing down or making a bland product, they revel the stupid decisions being made every day. Why bother writing jokes when the jokes practically write themselves?

Misspelled meta-commentary at that.

Not so, blind swordsman.

"Why bother writing jokes when the jokes practically write themselves?"

no shit

and there is more to laugh at when no one is sacred

Boyd,

I looked up Post modernism before I replied and it didn't seem to make any sense in this context, which is why I called your insult meaningless. I already knew what perjorative meant.

Your insult was too vague for my slightly dense mind to properly comprehend, which is a shame because I probably would have found it funny if I 'got' the context in which it was being applied.

ringside
i quote:
"pejorattive"

Well, from what I hear, some Liberals are getting mad at the term 'Star Trek Liberal' because it suggests that all Liberals are science fiction geeks that still live with their parents. The rich, successful Liberals (Whoopie Goldberg, Bruce Springsteen, and Rosie O'Donnell) are breaking off from the mainstream Liberal movement to combat the stereotype- they have reportedly identified at least 11 people so far who are outside of this false stereotype.

Jeff J. and Frank-
I'll just spell it out for you.

You've lived in a world of spin so long, and have been on the wrong side of documented facts for so long, that you now only recognise the preponderance of spin as factual.

Well Frank, my parents have been dead for years.

Oh I see. You were using misspelled as an adjective rather than a verb. Never mind, blind swordsman. My bad.

Zat- apparently that makes you the 12th person who doesn't fit the stereotype- my apologies...

Frank
Somebody's gotta break the mold!
Cheers and beers!

Ringside
No biggie
Have a Guinness on me some time.

Frank, Where do you get the time to post here? I would imagine your "successful business" www.militarystud.com wouldn't leave you much time.

Boyd,

Sorry you had to spell it out. A joke loses something when it has to be explained.

I am also sorry that because I don't share your worldview on all issues you view that as me living in a world of spin. I got news for ya, not everybody is going to share your worldview on all issues. Doesn't make them a dumb lemming (I am not talking about me) it just means their conclusions regarding a set of facts differ from your own.

What do you expect me to do: Blindly accept your version of events 100% because you are apparently so much smarter than I? (You probably are smarter, but that's beside the point) THAT would be living in a world of spin - YOURS.

Damn Jim
A picture of Joe Soap!!

Jeff J. has become very quiet. Is his mouth full Frank?

Jeff J.-
All you have to do is wave the MSM wand, go to NewsMax, and your problems with observable reality are resolved.

WorldNutDaily will also do.

"Jeff J. has become very quiet. Is his mouth full Frank?" - no, but your momma's mouth is!

(my first mom joke on a blog!)

Jeff J.-
My comment was specific to the Frank Cotton website bit.

I expect you to disagree with me -- and for valid reasons involving interpretation of agreed upon facts.

What troubles me is the trend I see whereby people simply dismiss, eg, the findings of the CDC or of Bush's own climatologists merely because the NYT actually wrote an article about it.

Uh, OK Boyd.

I'll sum it up this way:

I have core values and beliefs that will NEVER change.

When I look at or analyze events, the analysis is based upon the factual evidence at hand. My 'views' regarding 'issues' are in a constant state of flux as new facts and evidence manifest. I apply skepticism to everything I read and refuse to blindly buy into what I am reading.


So, my values are uncomprimising, but my interpretation of events are subject to change as I acquire new information.


I eagerly await your next perjorative.

What about Laura's bit on Lynne Chenney's new Secret Service code name being "dollar bill" after visiting Chippendale's. Being the wife of multi-billionaire Halliburton boy Cheney, she ought to at least earn the Secret Service code name "thousand dollar bill" when she stuffs her hand deep down the skimpy thong of some male Chippendale stripper. I mean after having to stuff her hand down to search for Dick Cheney's dick all these years, you'd think she'd be more than thrilled and grateful to now get the chance to have her hands down the tiny thong of a Chippendale stipper and at least give the guy more than a lousy buck or two. Hmmmmm. New Secret Service code name --"dollar bill" Lynne -- all those billions and she's a cheap tipper?

Jeff J was quoted as saying

"I do think Gangsta rap has been a bit of a detriment to the black community. I certainly don't advocate any form of censorship, I just wish the black community would shun some of the bile that's being spewed by some of these rappers."

I have to agree that this crap (gangsta rap) certainly doesnt send the best message, but think about this, according to the RIAA, 80% of all 'rap' is purchased by white, suburban youth. Remember, you can't spell CRAP without RAP.

Jeff J.-
...and I doubt that I'm smarter than you, BTW

Chris
Did you see that pic of Dick a while back?
If Lynn can't find that puppy she ain't looking.

Wow Frank! Great comeback. It's brilliant well thought out retorts such as that one that I am sure make you the success you so obviously are. Either that or you've been hanging around Lurchy again.

Jeff J.-
Gotta go- see ya next time. (sorry, no insult. maybe later)

can't you all take a joke

RE: JEFF J.

Aw, leave the kid alone you guys. We might be able to sway him over to our "see Bush for what he really truly is" side with a little more time. He's bright enough to catch on soon, just maybe a little naive right now.

Frank,

Will you post things slanted against liberals on your site as well and see if the neocons pick up those articles? Just to be fair and unbiased? Then you could let us know how both sides do, and whether Matt Drudge falls for your fake news. . . .or are you afraid to do that? You would need to make sure that the slanted stories on each side where equally salacious.

I have core values and beliefs that will NEVER change.

Jeff,

Would you care to spell those out for the benefit of the peanut gallery, meaning me?

'80% of all 'rap' is purchased by white, suburban youth.'

I'm sure I buy that figure; where did you find it?

And white kids who listen to that c(rap) are now referred to as 'whiggers'.

"Keep it up. And polish those brass knucks!"

Good one.

I also really like Frank's idea. Although I have to agree with Gal that both sides would use a fake source. However, by making the site consistently leaning towards one side, it will attract more people. That is why partisan radio is so popular. People like to have their beliefs affirmed.

What troubles me is the trend I see whereby people simply dismiss, eg, the findings of the CDC or of Bush's own climatologists merely because the NYT actually wrote an article about it.

That's funny, because I have a few trends I've observed as well.

First of all, there seems to be a real propensity for confusing pieces of evidence that apparently support a point of view--- with conclusive proof of the correctness of that point of view.

Those are two different things.

Argumentation requires it's participants to formulate a conclusion---and then to support that conclusion with evidence.

Some here trend towards simply producing evidence---and only then progressively and continually tweak and adjust their conclusions so they more logically parallel each new higher authority to whom they appeal.

It don't work that way.

Links to NYT articles about CDC studies or climatology reports are simply evidence of some stated conclusion you're defending.

They are not the conclusion itself.

Furthermore, it's the other guy's job to provide counter-evidence and/or attack the assumptions which bridge the gaps between your supporting sources and your conclusion.

Doing so isn't "dismissing" or "ignoring" the facts.

It's attacking your broader argument and the flaws therein.

You see, you can be the rootinest tootinest HREF codin'-est cowpoke on the World Wide Web----and link everyone to hundreds of recondite sources---

---but none of your links mean shit unless you can tie them in to some broader and independently-generated conclusion.

Try to keep that in mind---

There's differences between working blue, innuendo, and truth - and people have different perceptions. To people who have never been on a farm, the horse cock joke might have been about masturbating a horse; and to others it was about somebody being dumb. I too heard that joke as a child, and did not realize at the time the level of corruption associated with it. Just like you can go back and watch Bugs Bunny cartoons on different levels. I mean, was Bugs cross-dressed a lot, so I'm wondering what was up his bunny hole.

I'm wondering if Laura could have said anything not grave, and have it be acceptable. Just because a person doesn't get a joke the way it was intended, is the teller subject to scrutiny in every way that the joke could be heard? Do people in the White House have to be humorless? I'm asking.

When you breed cows, there is somone who gives the bull a be-gloved rub up to get him going before bringing on the cow. Now that I try to fact check, I wonder if the person who told me that was just pulling my leg. And by "leg", I mean "cock", and by "cock" I mean "male chicken."

So in other words, George needs to be "glove rubbed" before they bring on Laura?

Well if what she was saying was all truth, and not just jokes, her Desperate Housewife comment seems to indicate that she ain't getting any at all. Thank goodness they had twins, and he only had to suffer the indignity of a good ol' fashioned glove-rubbing once.

Malkin is more offended by her own lack of importance than anything that might be honest commentary. I've read several recent articles taking her television comments to task on the very basics of her lack of simple honestly. Bizzare declarations even that nobody accepts.

Like anyone whose only product is themselves, self promotion, a la criticizing the First Lady, is just part of the game. Malkin is probably enjoying more attention than ever at the moment.

Coulter must be cursing her poor luck not to have thought of the idea first.

Think professional wrestling, only more congenial, but twice the bitch factor.

Regards,
etc.

Boyd,

I initially misconstrued the thrust of your joke and got kinda shitty with you as a result. Sorry about that. BTW - I DO get it now, finally.


Calif Chris,

Thanx fer the vote of confidence.


Stormy,

I saw both guilty parties (Coulter and Malkin) on Fox news tonight. Man, what a pair. Malkin desperately needs to get laid, or something. It shouldn't be too difficult, she's pretty hot. She seriously needs to lighten up. Coulter started off pretty strong, but then went into her stupid sweeping generalizations against all liberals. Especially her stupid comment that liberals don't know how to debate. Puhleeeze..... She would crumble trying to debate a few liberals who frequent this blog.


Gal,

My core beliefs are:

A belief in God
A belief in good and evil


My core values are a simple code of moral ethics.

Jeff,

An entertaining idea. I'd relish the opportunity to warm up the crebral dukes in the Retort ring with either of those two.

Malkin strikes, in print, as having a terrible Couter-wanna-be envy, and wanting to be as thoroughly bizzare as Coulter is some kinda ambition. Sort of like political porn for the uber-right-wing agenda folks.

As for beliefs. Is that a belief in good and evil, or a belief in the existance of good and evil?

By the by, codes of moral ethics have never struck me as simple. Take a whack at those "WWJD" ethical dilemmas and you can get some pretty interesting insights into one's errors in reasoning. I especially like it when I go "Oh! Never thought of it that way!" moments.

I must be tired....

Regards,
etc.

Malkin is still tying to get over her dismal appearance on a convention edition (democrat?) of Hardball where Chris Mathews roasted her when she tried to perpetrate the "Kerry had self inflicted wounds" line using her typical smarmy technique of mentioning the story but giving the credit to someone else. Mathews busted her immediately as just trying to spread the rumor without any firsthand evidence and humiliated her for the next 6 minutes. I don't think she's ever had that high a profile since that show because she was right in the midst of her then new book tour and had been riding a blast of PR by her Publisher when Mathews trashed her - and rightfully so.
This new remark about Laura is a desperate attempt fo her to regain some spotlight and I predict if she doesn't get some, she'll resort to being more and more outraged about dumber and dumber stuff although she's already done the self hating immigrant thing, the anti asian thing so the self loathing is now pretty much played out - hmmmm maybe she can make new sweeping generalizations about how older people who get better deals of perscription drugs from canada should pay a percentage to the drug companies.

Malkin desperately needs to get laid, or something. It shouldn't be too difficult, she's pretty hot.

Amen.

I'd tear that shit up.

Maybe we could get her and Ann down here for a deer hunt this fall.

I'll ask the bosses.

GZ,

Matthews was attacking without provocation. He took her quote out of context and gave her an ultimatum-style 'yes or no' question which would have yielded an inaccurate answer in either case. Matthews clearly hadn't read her book and was hell-bent on attacking her on his show. She handled it poorly, as she was taken by surprise. However, she never found her voice and looked foolish as a result. C'mon, Michelle! The name of the show is 'Hardball'. Did she really think Matthews wasn't going to ask her tough questions.

Around the same time, I watched her on Hannity and Colmes defend racial profiling and internment in the war on terror. I agree with profiling, but internment??? Hell NO!

Mao,

I'd 'ruin' Malkin in a heartbeat. Ann on the other hand....I'd have to be drunk. She has too many mannish features and needs a little more meat on her bones. What say you?

The meat closest the bone is always sweeter.

But then again, I live 25 miles from the nearest white woman under 60 years old and 175 lbs.

So perhaps my judgement is clouded.

Yeah Mao,

That can certainly cloud one's judgement. I like 'em lithe and limber, but I certainly appreciate having some ass to grab onto while I thrust.

I dunno, man.

She does have that long-ass hair---

Braid that shit into a bronc rein and who needs an ass to get a holt of?

Jesus, Mao, you've got Jeff thrusting now.
When he has a cute little wife in the next room and your neihgbor is a fat old... cow? ;)

Mao,


The hair is great if she's blowing....however, the ass is preferable when she's humping.

In the wheelbarrel position I could see the hair providing leverage as a 'handle' but most other positions the arse is better for leverage.

Lol Mao....a great thrust forward?

spelling is my best thing, I know

OK boys--

It devolved fairly quickly---

I apologize.

Cork,

Nice cattle 'poke' inference.

Hell Mao, the thread started out about a horse cock joke. Jeff going into the wheelbarrel position was inevitable.

Excellent point, Cork. At least the conversation didn't sink to the level of 'The Coney Dog'....Oops!

Problem with the Coney dog is that the chick is likely to finish the job and retaliate with the 'Lousy Llama'.

Yeah, but tommorrow morning---when Danni gives ya'll 750 unindented words on the shameless "objectification" of women in this thread---I'll be snug in my roll sawing logs. (Tommorrow's an unofficial holiday down here for obvious reasons).

Forewarned is forearmed.

Mao,

You'll be sawing logs...by yourself?? With heavy beer goggles, perhaps a 60+ 175+ pound non-white woman may seem attractive...no?

Just a Border Collie.

I have to save the cocksmanship for the weekend---in San Antonio or Alpine.

Mao,

I've gotta believe your 'cocksmanship' would work pretty well at South Padre, which you aren't too far from, if memory serves.

BTW - Careful regarding the border collie...especially after Corky's 'cow-poke' inference.

Vietvet,

Your link was hilarious! Exceptional sarcasm.

Gaawwdd!!!! I am watching, by accident, the repeat of 'Hannity and Colmes' tonight. Ann Coulter is talking about being heckled. Man, every time I see her I dislike her more and more. And that is coming from a conservative. Hannity and Colmes is a shitty segment IMO. What's particularly sad is that it follows 'your World by Cavuto' at this time of night. Cavuto's segment has always impressed me....although it is probably too 'intellectual' for our 'American Idol' populace.

Cali,

Being the wife of multi-billionaire Halliburton boy Cheney,


Need to do some research because the one who has the money in the cheney family is Lynne. I will also note that she was also in the running for Bush's selection of VP.

Lynne, sits on three corporate boards that I know of and has big influence in the countries educational background. She is the main driving force.

It sounds like Laura has cock on the brain, and most definitely because her limp dick husband hasn't preformed his husbandly duties.
So as a patriotic American I would like to volunteer my male services to Laura. And I will gladly offer the same service to the 2 daughters if they so desire.
As a man that has done lots of ranch and farm work in my younger days, I have seen a few occasions where the ranchers wife starts having lustful desires for the young muscular hired help.
So I wouldn't be surprised if there is a Juan or a Manual working on there Ranch that has actually seen Laura's bush.

BTW,
I have been spending most of my online time lately winning a little bit of money playing online poker at Pacific poker.
So if any of you good folks would like to try and take a little money from me you can find me there quite regularly on the weekends.
My poker handle is ELKDOG.
www.888.com

Jeffndenmark writes, "My poker handle is ELKDOG. www.888.com"

Good idea! I think I will join and find your table. Then, I can quote your comments about Mrs. Bush and other hysterical (i don't mean funny) expostulations to their chat window.

That will be entertaining.

"although it is probably too 'intellectual' for our 'American Idol' populace."

I'd watch American Idol if Paula would fuck the contestants on the show.

No shit Zat....but how do I get on the show?

I ain't that ugly but I can't sing for shit! Perhaps Paula will 'instruct' me!

"Maybe we could get her and Ann down here for a deer hunt this fall."

All right girls, we'll give you a 300 yard head start.

I have it!

South Texas Shootout

Paula Abdul and Janet Jackson
vs
Michelle Maulkin and Ann Coulter

Turn 'em loose on the River with ten rounds each.

Malkin

It would be estatic to hear from Malken in the extremity of orgasm; "me so horny...me love you long time! Me fucki- fucki; me sucki-sucki!"

" me love you too much"!

Brilliant oratory on parallel with Shakespeare and Chaucer!

Blame Stanley Kubrik.

Not on the 'umble Soapy One!

well......just about every response to this has been just as I suspected....
you say that if a liberal has said this stuff, conservatives would have screamed and I have to admit you are right....but its kind of like you calling your brother names, but others cant....

and you say, of course are celebrating the roast of bush by Laura,.....and I honestly have not much to say about it except that it is pretty disappointing that a woman of such class would have agreed to this particular comment. everything else seemed pretty harmless, but this was uncalled for...
what really pissed me off was when I read that richard gere and hanoi jane were in the audience....these assholes shouldnt be within 1000 of laura or the pres...in fact....jane should still be in a jail somewhere.....

Yeah! Saying, "Fuck You Asshole!" is only appropriate on the floor of the Senate.

"but this was uncalled for..."

sigh

Laura is from Texas.
It's an old joke.
She likely has heard it.
Originally there wasn't so much a horse/sex angle as a cow/milking angle.
One can completely remove the sexual innuendo and it's still funny;
If one has a sense of humor.

Cheney spoofer says, "Yeah! Saying, "Fuck You Asshole!" is only appropriate on the floor of the Senate."

I really enjoy the irony when holier-than-thou leftist leaning loonies infer that the "FUs" aren't a common occurence ANYWHERE, and notwithstanding the "hallowed" halls of Congress!

maybe so zat.......but not when it seems like they are pandering to liberals to make them like him or something....no matter what bush does, they will hate him....so why pander to the crowd......a little self deprecating humor would have been okay....and if she has stopped with saying he tried to milk a horse it wouldnt have been as bad either.....and if they werent pandering for acceptance why in the hell was gere and hanoi jane there.......

"......but not when it seems like they are pandering to liberals to make them like him or something..."

Now you are bordering on paranoia.

Gere was there to accept vasoline money for his next trip to Tibet. Apparently the Dalai is more gentle in his speech than in deed....and the gerbils!

Fonda was there to try to hook her emotionally needy rookers into some rich fucker like George (the crazy jew) Soros, or perhaps steal away Bill Clinton since his mate is an indifferent communist fishwife!

Hey leave Laura alone....I'm heard worse, and she has miles more class than that eurotrash tramp Heinz. (Although I've heard she's great with a ketckup bottle in her haddock-reeking snatch!

Indeed!

Joe belches, ". . .haddock-reeking snatch!"

Sounds like you are the voice of experience, Joe. . .

indifferent communist fishwife



ROTFLMAO

"Self-censorship is a conservative value"

hahahahahahahahaha man I almost cracked a rib lauging so much.

"I really enjoy the irony when holier-than-thou leftist leaning loonies infer that the "FUs" aren't a common occurence ANYWHERE, and notwithstanding the "hallowed" halls of Congress!"

MORON!
The entire point of this thread is that a "holier than thou" conservative is criticizing Laura Bush.
The fact that I said "Fuck You Asshole!" on the Senate floor came as a shock to nobody. The point is that I'm a "family values" VP but I throw that bullshit in the trash when it suits me.
"WHOOOOSH"...that was the point going over your head.

The Cheney spoof blats, "MORON! The entire point of this thread is that a "holier than thou" conservative is criticizing Laura Bush."

Exactly correct, KLUGE! However, you can't comment on that, but must get-up-on-your-highhorse and misdirect the thread to your favorite bugaboo! Then act like a whining crybaby when it is brought to your attention. Talk about "airspace!"

What is happening in Iraq is far more obscene that what happened in Laura Bushes speech.
As Lenny Bruce once said "In a tv movie, if a man walks up to a naked woman on a bed and smothers her with a pillow - that's okay! But if he puts the pillow under her 4$$ and screws her - that's obscene."

Cavuto's all right sometimes, but very dangerous. I almost damaged myself coming back from the kitchen. Leapt for the remote when Hannity's smirk came on. He's really got to watch Bush more carefully and practice in front of the mirror.

The fundies didn't understand the joke because the only 'milking' they do is from mass-mailings. And they'd milk a boar.

Although some of you (Bushlover ?) wantg to believe these are people with such class and grace etc . . . . COME ON PLEEEEEEEASE.
I love Laura Bush so lets get that straight. And now I ask you all to do something that might be . . . well ... a bit different. Stop and think for a moment about Dubya and Laura before all this politicing began to happen. He was a party guy and she was into his partying and having a good time and its pretty obvious he's no brainiac duhhhh so thats who Laura married and not this person you'd like to imagine he is BushLover - he's NOT that guy. He's a good time sort of guy . . rich boy who's never really had to worry about much and I have nothing against that - he didn't ask fo that it was his fate but my God don't ascribe a completely different persona to George Dubya Bush. I think we got a glimse of who dubya really is at home and frankly I like that guy better then the one who pretends to be President. You can also see this in his kids - you see Laura and Dubya - duhhh getting drunk, partying ... I mean lets not get carried away with who Gergie is and isn't .. know what I mean?
Laura was great that evening and by Malkin trashing a very much loved first lady, she's just trying to get a little profile - basically Malkin is an also ran to Coulter in the idiot right wing sweepstakes . .. the bigger idiot makes the most money.

Somehow this may come out double, the first post disappeared into the nether regions.

Colmes is just Agar in Hannity's petri dish. But I generally use TV as Muzak when I'm doing something else.

Send me a memo: Never seen American Idol or The Donald's show.

Your posts run a bit long GZ.....but I gather you don't approve of Fox news?

Well, I like O'Reilley for his border protection stance (which Bush won't do SHIT about) and myriad other issues. But I disagree with many others.

Unlike many on the left, I buy no ideology wholsale, but pick and choose and leave the rest.

And I DID think that Malkin was a bit overcritical about a 'hair-down' evening at the notoriously decadent 'Press Club' to-do. This bitch needs an hour or two of good hard sex. (I volunteer...even if she is a gook!)

PS. I had a medical bioethics professor who was the spitting image of Coulter (but wasn't a strident bitch)

VietnamVet,
If you want to come over to Pacific Poker and play poker, fine.
But leave your silly ass comments on this site.
Nobody on Pacific poker wants to hear your stupidity. They just want to play poker and take your money. So come on over and play some poker. I need the money.

Read piratenews.org when you posted it on another thread. All the way, and all the while realizing it was a waste of time. Reminded me of nothing as much as the Swifties. Throw enough mud and maybe some of it will stick.

And a heavy reliance on Kitty Kelley, who has almost zero credibility with me. Never read all of any of her books, because they are generally on subjects that don't particularly interest me, but the excerpts I saw were very poorly sourced.

Kitty Kelley was expelled from the University of Arizona for petty theft of her roommates stuff.

And this trash wants to write about the Royal Family? It almost boggles the mind.

"Cavuto's all right sometimes, but very dangerous."
HAHAHAHA
Neil Cavuto, dangerous? Look at the guy! You must be kidding. That just sounds funny.

Corky, hey, how's it going? New job, second dog, another baby on the way, plus it's spring, so I've been pretty busy. For the record, the Landcruiser has a camo ribbon magnet that says "Freedom Isn't Free," and yeah, my wife drives it.

Rand

Ayn Rand was a selfish woman who never understood the limits of individuality to ever become something more than a second-rate jewish novelist.

Very 'clever' to choose that moniker and I've read a couple (Fountainhead , Atlas) but you never realized that sooner of later all tribes must muster for the good of all (nationalism) if they are to survive. Think about it. Not too long though.

Soapy, it's ~so~ "election season" to talk about my handle. That ship has sailed!

Second-rate? More like 3rd rate. Atlas Shrugged is more like a comic book than a novel. The characters are ludicrous caricatures of the Snidely Whiplash twisting-his-moustache ilk, on the one hand, and Greek Gods on the other. Its philosophy can be summed as: Me, me, me.

Um, Ayn, too subtle I guess. Cavuto is dangerous because he's followed by Hannity and I scramble to keep his rants out of my consciousness.

Youse guys kill me! How the hell would I know Hannity comes on after Cavuto? Damn... and to think I thought I was a pretty loyal kool-aide drinker. Damn... I don't know the Fox schedule by heart.

And to you other guys... dude, calling a woman who wrote a book ~called~ "The Virtue of Selfishness" selfesh is just... pedestrian. Geez, you just have to do better than that! "tell me something I don't know... surprise me" (Gordon Geckko)

Rand

what a bunch of nuts. The only thing the first lady referred to was that a male horse does not have teats. You would have to have a sick mind to make anything else out of it.

"You would have to have a sick mind to make anything else out of it."

And look who did.
I rest my case.

"The only thing the first lady referred to was that a male horse does not have teats"

NO. Milking a male horse can only mean masterbating it. Asking where you milk it would be one thing, but actually milking it implies jerking it off. She could have just said a horse if she wanted to convey that Bush knew nothing about farming. Trying to milk a horse would cover it. By adding a "male horse", she has painted a very specific picture. We read it right.

Cavuto is followd by Hume, then Shep Smith, then O'Reilly, THEN Hannity if the truth be known.

I take the Wall st. Journal, so no need to watch Neil. Hume I can handle if I'm in and out. Smith's show is far too manic ans anoying.

But I like to watch O'Reilly.....until he becomes too bombastic, sanctimonious, or mentions Scott peterson or Michael Jackson.

Instant channel surf.

And H & C is too disputatious for me. Its true!

Shut up Kantreadeieieieiei,

As usual, you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Laura and W feel secure enough to poke fun at themselves because they have been leading the self-appointed liberal intelligentsia around by the nose for the last five years. You call Bush stupid. You call him a moron. Then he proceeds to make absolute fools out of you.

You have some dark, depressed, sexually frustrated obsession where you dream of relations with farm animals. Baaaaaahhh…Baaaaaaahhh…or is it oink….oink….oink

Meanwhile, Bush et al plays you like a fiddle.

Kantreadeieieiei = certifiable neo-lib assclown.

neigh neigh
it's moo moo

Quack...Quack...It's Japanese Venereal Disease

What's your problem, sheepdip?
I don't like her, either.

What's a 'sheepdip'?

Rush the drug addict
O'Reilley the pervert
Bush the thief
Laura the horny desperate housewife
Cheney the master thief
priest child molesters...
Don't you love the republican party?
do as we say not as we do!

"self-censorship is a conservative value". She admits that they can't be righteous if they say what they are really thinking. "Republican hypocrite" is redundant.

Ah, this concept of hypocrisy this site has always been so in love with-- it comes up again. So let me get this straight, Gotcha... in order not to be a hypocrite, one would have to say whatever comes to mind? Self control is simply out of the question?

In that case, someone should have jumped in to save that poor man Pat O'Brien last night on TV. After a while, I was like, shit Phil, get off the guy's back! He was hammered! What the hell else do you want him to say?

Rand