Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, February 21, 2012

Afghan demonstrators used slingshots and fired guns in the air while U.S. helicopters responded with flares after thousands gathered Tuesday to protest the burning of copies of the Koran at the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan. The holy books, removed from a detention center because they had inscriptions of extremist messages, were burned in a pile of garbage at Bagram. White House press secretary Jay Carney called it a "deeply unfortunate incident."

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BIBLES GET BURNED all the time and people are routinely arrested in Arab land so who gives a crap about a koran UNLESS they have your name and address and you have also drawn cartoon pictures of MOHAMED,,,

Roshna Khalid, the provincial governor's spokeswoman, said Qurans were burned inside Bagram, citing accounts from local laborers.

"The laborers normally take the garbage outside and they found the remains of Qurans," she said.

Ahmad Zaki Zahed, chief of the provincial council, said U.S. military officials gave him about 30 Qurans and other religious books that were recovered before they were destroyed.

"Some are burned. Some are not burned," Zahed said, adding that the books were used by detainees once incarcerated at the base.

The materials were in trash that two soldiers with the U.S.-led coalition transported in a truck late Monday night to a pit where garbage is burned on the base, according to Zahed, who spoke with five Afghans working at the pit.

He said that when the workers noticed the religious books in the trash, they stopped the disposal process.

Bagram also houses a prison for Afghans detained by American forces. The center has caused resentment among Afghans because of reports of torture and ill-treatment of suspected Taliban prisoners, with President Hamid Karzai demanding the transfer of prisoners to Afghan security.

The United States never had any intention of "winning hearts and minds", but to break our heart and lie to our face. Such despicable behavior clearly identifies the real reason Americans agendas are seen as cultural corruption.

BIBLES GET BURNED all the time and people are routinely arrested in Arab land so who gives a crap about a koran UNLESS they have your name and address and you have also drawn cartoon pictures of MOHAMED,,,
#1 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2012-02-21 02:36 PM

Didn't you see the pictures of children with rocks fighting US soldiers with ammo? Because these poor, underprivileged people are fighting to keep their cultural identity from being symbolically and literally burned to ashes. Why this was done is what you should be questioning, Poindexter.

Didn't you see the pictures of children with rocks fighting US soldiers with ammo? Because these poor, underprivileged people are fighting to keep their cultural identity from being symbolically and literally burned to ashes. Why this was done is what you should be questioning, Poindexter.

#3 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2012-02-21 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

ONE WAY STREET:

Arabs are the last people on the planet who should complain about anything. Try being a Christian or an Israeli in one of the Arab land Countries and see just how far you get with your Liberal Left wing Tolerance Bullshit, I would also remind you that if you are not a practicing Muslim you are by their definition an INFIDEL worthy of death,,,

I plan on treating Arabs with the SAME Tolerance they hold for the rest of the world,,,

Google 67 SIX DAY war and see just how tolerant the Arabs were with Israel,,,

"Because these poor, underprivileged people are fighting to keep their cultural identity from being symbolically and literally burned to ashes. Why this was done is what you should be questioning, Poindexter."

Why is this happening in Afghanistan? Because their former government formed an alliance with an international terror group and aided that terror group as it randomly murdering thousands people all over the globe, Poindexter.

If it were up to me, we would have left years ago because the national building part of this whole endeavor was always doomed to fail. But I can't pretend to not understand why Afghanistan was invaded.

"Arabs are the last people on the planet who should complain about anything. Try being a Christian or an Israeli in one of the Arab land Countries and see just how far you get with your Liberal Left wing Tolerance Bullshit, I would also remind you that if you are not a practicing Muslim you are by their definition an INFIDEL worthy of death,,, "

afghanistan isn't arab.

when mass burning of the bible happens by an occupying arab force on a christian country happens, then you have something there.

and that is NOT the definition of infidel unless your source is jihadwatch.com

"Why is this happening in Afghanistan? Because their former government formed an alliance with an international terror group"

that explains why we went there.
fair.

that doesn't explain why we are still there.

Arabs are the last people on the planet who should complain about anything. Try being a Christian or an Israeli in one of the Arab land Countries and see just how far you get with your Liberal Left wing Tolerance Bullshit, I would also remind you that if you are not a practicing Muslim you are by their definition an INFIDEL worthy of death,,,

#4 | Posted by ATaxpayer

en.wikipedia.org

Don't see the problem.
The base was taking out the garbage.

"Try being a Christian or an Israeli"

israeli is the new religion i guess.

#4 | POSTED BY ATAXPAYER AT 2012-02-21 03:38 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I guess "American Exceptionalism" only exists in you thinking we are exceptional.

"Don't see the problem.
The base was taking out the garbage."

people like you are the reason why the us economy is so fucked. why there is such massive political and class differences. why there is a lack of american citizens for high tech jobs.

i think the bible (and the koran) call you the dumb, deaf and blind.

Hell the Army burned Bibles coming into Afghanistan so why should anybody give a flying ---- about the unholy Koran.

"Because these poor, underprivileged people are fighting to keep their cultural identity from being symbolically and literally burned to ashes."

HA~! HA~! HA~!

They behave this way because they are kept in perpetual ignorance.

I especially enjoyed the 'cultural identity' thing.

What 'culture' they have is crude and barbaric and worthy of destruction.

Unless, of course, you consider honor killings and buzkashi to be high cultural expressions.

Tomorrow I am going to download several copies of the Koran and then delete them as a show of support. They sure are a peaceful group. How long before they behead an American over burning papers?

#13
I'm retired. My eyesight is excellent and so is my hearing.

I don't care about what the bible or the koran/quran
says. Neither impresses me. I only read them to under
stand what I'm up against when believers deem those words
on paper more important then a human life. I though it
was the teaching that was so precious. Not the man
made binding, paper and ink of which they're made.

As I said. Nothing wrong there. Just taking out the trash.

Didn't you see the pictures of children with rocks fighting US soldiers with ammo? Because these poor, underprivileged people are fighting to keep their cultural identity from being symbolically and literally burned to ashes. Why this was done is what you should be questioning, Poindexter.
#3 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2012-02-21 02:47 PM
ONE WAY STREET:
Arabs are the last people on the planet who should complain about anything. Try being a Christian or an Israeli in one of the Arab land Countries and see just how far you get with your Liberal Left wing Tolerance Bullshit, I would also remind you that if you are not a practicing Muslim you are by their definition an INFIDEL worthy of death,,,
#4 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2012-02-21 03:38 PM

You mean a Christian or a Jew, not Israeli. Also, this topic is discussing Afghani who are descended of Scythian. Get off your Right wing ignorant ass and learn a little bit about these alleged terrorists in training. "Infidel" and "worthy" are diametrically opposed - how you smash them into a sentence together demonstrates your stupidity. You must love Christianity a whole hell of a lot.

Also, the fact that these people aren't armed, are barely clothed and the associated link shows mass child starvation doesn't factor in as to why they feel their Qur'an being burned might be in poor judgement, even considered blasphemous to Muslim, Jew and Christian?

How many hearts and minds were the US forces going after? From what I can tell they were after only the ones who might take offense at having their religious text burned in a pit.

I plan on treating Arabs with the SAME Tolerance they hold for the rest of the world,,,

A firefight with unarmed Afghani Muslim children equates to "evil Arabs".. you are one sick fuck. Straight up, you are an intolerant bigoted asshole. You are probably a Christian Dominionist too, am I wrong?

Google 67 SIX DAY war and see just how tolerant the Arabs were with Israel,,,
#5 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2012-02-21 03:45 PM

Oh, I will. I also predict that it's pro-war racist propaganda. Also, what does Israel have to do with Afghanistan? How are the Israeli oppressed by the war-torn, impoverished and OCCUPIED Afghani? How are the Israeli oppressed at all, other than by their own intolerant Zionist bigotry?! Really, you must be one of those "he said wipe Israel off the map and into the sea!" crowd. Total Teabaggery.

#13
I call you an absolutist Klifferd.
You put people into groups. I've heard
people who do that do so because it
makes it easier for them to handle
those people they don't accept or
can't understand.

I put things into groups. Makes it
easier to clean house.

#16
Gracie, I knew deep down you were an
environmentalist at heart.

That way you don't waste paper!
:)

"Because these poor, underprivileged people are fighting to keep their cultural identity from being symbolically and literally burned to ashes."
HA~! HA~! HA~!
They behave this way because they are kept in perpetual ignorance.
I especially enjoyed the 'cultural identity' thing.
What 'culture' they have is crude and barbaric and worthy of destruction.
Unless, of course, you consider honor killings and buzkashi to be high cultural expressions.
#15 | Posted by vernon at 2012-02-21 06:22 PM

You didn't look at the pictures of these starving kids.

When you claim that they are "worthy of destruction" you are demonstrating exactly the same ignorance that ATaxpayer just has.

Also, to destroy rather than construct indicates you do have a good grasp on barbarism. Christian love is so pure and good, particularly when they fly a drone into your family.

that doesn't explain why we are still there.

#8 | Posted by klifferd

Obviously we are still there as we have not burned all the Korans yet.

The holy books, removed from a detention center because they had inscriptions of extremist messages,

Any indication if these "extremist messages" were put there by the United States, back when we supported the Muhjadeen against the infidel Soviet?

that explains why we went there [Afghanistan].
fair.

that doesn't explain why we are still there.

#8 | Posted by klifferd at 2012-02-21 05:48 PM

Control of the oil and gas pipeline routes coming from the Caspian Sea.

All this is alleged. Obama jumping up and apologizing now made it fact.

I wouldn't put it past those fuckers to set this up.

Remember Fallujah.

rwd

#20 Bella, meh not the waste of paper, to download is free, to buy the crap and burn it would cost me and make a profit for them. But your post does sound nicer!!!! (:

Just another reason we shouldn't be there. Even if this were an "accident," it never would have happened if our troops were here at home.

BTW, nice headline, Toothy. As much as you and all the other libtards want to distance America from its military actions, this was done by US soldiers at a US military base, and the US is now apologizing for it. Own your failures, pussy.

How long before they behead an American over burning papers?

#16 | Posted by gracieamazed

How much proof do people need that too much (of any) religion leads to insanity.

...this was done by US soldiers at a US military base, and the US is now apologizing for it. Own your failures, pussy.

#27 | Posted by JOE

Why does JOE hate the troops?

Google 67 SIX DAY war and see just how tolerant the Arabs were with Israel,,,
#5 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2012-02-21 03:45 PM

Israel - 1967 - The Six-Day War

Wow, the first bit of criticism regarding Israel alleges they were performing a "systematic invasion for strategic resources". Golly, that doesn't sound anything even remotely similar.. uh, to what the Israeli.. uh, have in fact been doing for decades now - systematic invasion for strategic resources.

What was your point?

"A firefight with unarmed Afghani Muslim children equates to "evil Arabs".. you are one sick fuck. Straight up, you are an intolerant bigoted asshole. You are probably a Christian Dominionist too, am I wrong?"

No, the point that you are choosing to ignore is that where they have the guns and the numbers, Muslims are equally bad if not worse to non-believers. Whenever they are in the position to be the armed soldiers attacking unarmed innocents, they seize the opportunity with glee.

IMO, it doesn't justify brutality against them.

But I find it hard to believe that you truely didn't understand the point being made.

Why does JOE hate the troops?

I don't, retard. I hate the mission they've been assigned to in Afghanistan and the retards who have perpetuated that mission. Whatever that mission is today. Can you even tell me what that is?

"Whatever that mission is today. Can you even tell me what that is?"

Our troos are staying in Afghanistan in order to prevent the president's political enemies from saying he's cutting and running.

Muslims are equally bad if not worse to non-believers.

Can be written

Christians are equally bad if not worse to non-believers.

Or

Jews are equally bad if not worse to non-believers.

Or

Hindus are equally bad if not worse to non-believers.

But it should ultimately read:

Religious zealots are equally bad if not worse to non-believers.

You just need to realize fanatics are fanatical. All they need is a direction, and religions will do just that.

#33, great. I bet that the families of lost service members are absolved of pain, knowing that it's saving face for Obama.

Here I always thought that western civilized countries frowned upon burning any type of book muck less a religious one.

Seems to me the only people that order the burning of books are dictators. The Chinese did it, the Romans did it, Alexander the Great, the French, the Nazi's...

Quite a list the NATO and America have identified themselves with.

We really should know better.

Oh and Taxpayer, nice to see you lower yourself to the level of those that you seem to hate for their values.

Nice job douche bag.

I hate the mission they've been assigned to in Afghanistan and the retards who have perpetuated that mission. Whatever that mission is today. Can you even tell me what that is?

#32 | Posted by JOE

hate the "mission" but don't hate the troops right? The troops are in charge of what is happening on the ground. So how do you differentiate in your mind who is responsible for what?

Seems to me that the "mission" failed at Bora Bora when Osama Bin Laden was allowed to escape into Pakistan. Since Osama was (ALWAYS) in Pakistan (AFTER THAT FIASCO) it seems (in hindsight) incredibly smart to have actually positioned some of our troops right in Pakistan.

Regardless... Now that Osama has been eliminated and al-Qaeda has been decimated I'd said our mission now is to withdraw our troops as quickly and as honorably as possible.

As you yourself may or should know this cannot possibly happen overnite. Wars are much easier to start than they are to stop.

Now you could argue about the withdrawal timetable but the fact is our "mission" now, as Obama has made clear, (if you would ever pay attention to him you'd know this) is to withdraw. By 2014 or even sooner.

"As an alliance, we are fully committed to the Lisbon framework and transitioning to Afghan control by 2014." --Panetta

And kill as many bad guys and burn as many Korans as possible on the way out...apparently.

And three of our servicemen died today. Which news is more important?

#38

For you?

I'd say the results from your diabetes test, you fat sac of cow shit.

Legal status of detainees (Bagram)

The George W. Bush administration avoided using the label "prisoner of war" when discussing the detainees held at Bagram, preferring to immediately classify them as "unlawful enemy combatants". This way, it is not necessary under the Geneva Conventions to have a competent tribunal determine their classification. (In previous conflicts such as the Vietnam War, Army Regulation 190-8 Tribunals determined the status of prisoners of war.)

The administration also initially argued that these detainees could not access the US legal system. However, the United States Supreme Court's ruling in Rasul v. Bush confirmed that captives in US jurisdiction did indeed have the right to access US courts. Rasul v. Bush determined that the Executive Branch did not have the authority, under the United States Constitution, to suspend the right for detainees to submit writs of habeas corpus.

Another consequence of the Supreme Court's ruling in Rasul v. Bush was the establishment of Combatant Status Review Tribunals to review and confirm the information that initially led each captive to be classified as an enemy combatant. The Department of Defense (DoD) convened these tribunals for every captive in Guantanamo Bay, but they did not apply to Bagram. The current legal process governing the status of Bagram captives is the Enemy Combatant Review Board, described by Eliza Griswold in The New Republic:

Prisoners don't even have the limited access to lawyers available to prisoners in Guantánamo. Nor do they have the right to Combatant Status Review Tribunals, which Guantánamo detainees won in the 2004 Supreme Court ruling in Hamdi v. Rumsfeld. Instead, if a combat commander chooses, he can convene an Enemy Combatant Review Board (ECRB), at which the detainee has no right to a personal advocate, no chance to speak in his own defense, and no opportunity to review the evidence against him. The detainee isn't even allowed to attend. And, thanks to such limited access to justice, many former detainees say they have no idea why they were either detained or released.

On February 20, 2009, the Department of Justice under President Barack Obama announced it would continue the policy that detainees in Afghanistan could not challenge their detention in US courts.[22]

On April 2, 2009 US District Court Judge John D. Bates ruled that those Bagram captives who had been transferred from outside Afghanistan could use habeas corpus.[23]

The BBC quoted Ramzi Kassem, lawyer for one of the men:

"Today, a US federal judge ruled that our government cannot simply kidnap people and hold them beyond the law."

The Obama administration appealed the ruling. A former Guantanamo Bay defense attorney, Neal Katyal, led the government's case.[24][25]

The decision was reversed on May 21, 2010, the appeals court unanimously ruling that Bagram detainees have no right to habeas corpus hearings.[26]

en.wikipedia.org

Fucking hilarious coming from our new "constitutional scholar" in Chief.

Has anyone who has commented thus far even been to Bagram Airfield? Well, I have. I never trusted most of the workers on the base farther than I could look at them. I'm glad they burned the books. Makes the muslims look even dumber. And when bibles and crosses are destroyed we wont hear a peep out of the liberal left..

Hypocritical assholes..

Nite all. The boy has a fever of 102.9 with Motrin. Long night ahead.

Nite all. The boy has a fever of 102.9 with Motrin. Long night ahead.

#42 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

This isn't the nooner and no one cares bitch.

#41

You know what? No one cares about your opinion you racist piece of shit. If its a thread dealing with Muslims you point of view is fuckem. Everyone gets it. You fully bought into the brainwashing you underwent and for no real reason, you hate Muslims. You are a fucked up human being Boza.

Also, when the Afghanis destroyed the Buddhist statues I was outraged, it's not that liberals hate Christians, it's that in this situation there's no sympathy for them.

en.m.wikipedia.org

The general at the base apologized.

It was a mistake.

There was suspected bad material in with the Korans.

What is the proper way to dispose of a Koran anyway?

The US flag is burned to dispose of.

What is done with tattered Korans?

And when bibles and crosses are destroyed we wont hear a peep out of the liberal left..

Hypocritical assholes..

#41 | Posted by boaz

OI what a load of BS the majority of this nation say they are Christians
which means a far percentage of us on the left are are Christians like me

What is the proper way to dispose of a Koran anyway?
The US flag is burned to dispose of.
What is done with tattered Korans?

#45 | POSTED BY MURPHY AT 2012-02-21 09:59 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

i just looked it up. they're never supposed to be burned unless there is no option. they're supposed to be wrapped in something clean and buried. someone at the base should have googled it and saved the drama.

www.reuters.com

On 11-04-1979 Iranian students justified taking Embassy hostages by claiming saying it was retaliation for the admission of (insert any offense here).

OK, Mr. President.
This might be turning into
your 1979 Carter moment.
Let's not take 444 days to
fix this fiasco.

Send in the choppers and get our embassy personnel and our troops outta there. Way overdue.

Hey Robot, which do you hold to be more important - your right to free speech OR Islam's right to not have Korans burned or Allah drawn?

Just asking.

Are these people really human? If so, they are just barely removed from the Animal Kingdom.

Nice job douche bag.

#36 | Posted by Tedly at 2012-02-21 07:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

MAY IGNORANCE BE WITH YOU INFIDEL,,,

REDLIGHTROBOT Sorry asshole I can't help it if the Arabs you defend are an intolerant people who consider everyone else an INFIDEL. If you are too stupid to open your eyes may IGNORANCE BE WITH YOU AS WELL,,,

You didn't look at the pictures of these starving kids.

When you claim that they are "worthy of destruction" you are demonstrating exactly the same ignorance that ATaxpayer just has.

Also, to destroy rather than construct indicates you do have a good grasp on barbarism. Christian love is so pure and good, particularly when they fly a drone into your family.

#21 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2012-02-21 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dumbfuckery on so many levels.

1. I did not claim that they are "worthy of destruction" I said that their 'culture' is worthy of destruction because it is barbaric, cruel and evil.

You are defending honor killings, gender mutilation of women, and other vile aspects of this barbaric culture?

2. "Christian love is so pure and good, particularly when they fly a drone into your family."

Sorry, but this makes absolutely no fucking sense. are you trying to say that the Commander in Chief (your beloved Messiah) is acting on Christian faith when he orders a drone attack?

BTW, they don't "fly a drone into your family." The drone drops a bomb or missile, and then goes back to home base.

Your mind is completely fucked.

Your mind is completely fucked.
In that, it mirrors my life.
#53 | Posted by vernon - LLC, Tennessee

You didn't look at the pictures of these starving kids.

#21 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2012-02-21 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oops ..... almost forgot!

I can show you pictures of starving children in 100 countries besides Afghanistan.

I am involved in several efforts to relieve this.

What are you doing . . . . besides whining about it on an anonymous blog?

What will they put on the tombstone of RedShitRobot?

"They also serve who only stand in line and wait for someone else to do something."
--John Milton

My wife (diehard pro-union liberal) said it best this morning when we were watching the CNN story on this. "I wonder how many of those guys throwing rocks were standing in line for handouts from our military in the last month?"

its time we stop apologizing for anything that happens in that part of the world.

I STILL believe we should be out of afghanistan by the way...let the taliban come back and enslave this same fucks who protested this...

AND OF COURSE...its too bad this gets press but christians are killed all over the middle east and no one gives a shit..

fuckem all...AND if another attack comes out of any of these countries ..

NUKE MECCA......make it fuckin parkin lot...

WARN THEM FIRST, OF COURSE !!!!!!!...but it would take someone other than barry....

and they go apeshit if an accident like this occurs...

but then raise billy hell if some muslim here has to take her bea keeping outfit off for drivers liscense..

fuckem

fuckem all....

White House press secretary Jay Carney called it a "deeply unfortunate incident."
Well then no problem.
If it was Bush on watch I think the media would be behaving differently.

of course...cnn would cut in every hour on the hour...put a clock on the bottom of the screen counting down to the next LIVE REPORT and msnbc would be screaming and convulsing in anger.

but its not carney's fault....he has over 2000 ASSISTANT press secretaries to help out..

OH YEAH....AND on the bottom as well on the screen would be a counter..

NUMBER OF TERRORISTS CREATED BY GEORGE BUSH HIMSelf for allowing this to happen...

hate the "mission" but don't hate the troops right? The troops are in charge of what is happening on the ground. So how do you differentiate in your mind who is responsible for what?

It's simple, dumbfuck. The troops are responsible for carrying out the mission that is given to them. They are not responsible for coming up with it in the first place.

The people who came up with the mission and continue to direct it are despicable. The people who carry out the mission are commendable, and it's unfortunate they are in the position they are in through no fault of their own.

In sum, you're a retard. Tell me what the mission is in Afghanistan, dumbass.

"Religious zealots are equally bad if not worse to non-believers.

You just need to realize fanatics are fanatical. All they need is a direction, and religions will do just that. "

It is factually untrue that there is as much violence against religious minorities in Christian majority countries as there is in Muslim majority countries. And its not even close. So we can keep pretending that all religions have the same zealotry problem if you want to call it that but facts paint another picture...

The people who carry out the mission are commendable, and it's unfortunate they are in the position they are in through no fault of their own.

so why did they burn the Korans? Did Obama tell them to do that? The Commander on the ground fucked this one up....Not Obama.

yer fucked in the head aren't you Joe. You got that ODS bad don't you?

In sum, you're a retard. Tell me what the mission is in Afghanistan, dumbass.

#63 | Posted by JOE

Grow up and learn to read.

The mission is to leave. How much cleared can that be?

The "mission" in Afghanistan was to make America feel better after 9-11 by pretending to be doing "something." Why Afghanistan? Because they thought it would be quick, like they thought Iraq would be quick, and we would have Iran surrounded today.

joe and sully kicking sand in faces as usual.

"so why did they burn the Korans?"

Who knows? Probably because they're stupid. The fact remains that they would never have been in a position to make such a poor decision had the Commander in Chief not ordered them to be in Afghanistan in the first place.

"The mission is to leave."

LOL. Since when? And how hard is it to get on a plane and leave? Why haven't we done that yet?

Why did they burn the Koran? A side-effect of dehumanizing the enemy. To get the average person to be willing to kill another human, you must condition them to not see another human, but to see a Gook, Kraut, Nip, Nigger, Kyke, Sand Nigger, etc. Their values are then moot; their faith is then moot; their value as people is moot and anything done to them is not only allowed, but "better than they deserve."

They burned them because they claim they had jihadist inscriptions written in to them and they wanted them discarded.
They also burned them because they're 19-22 year old dudes that don't give a flying fuck about sensitivity, muslim feelings, or going the extra mile for people that are savages.

the fact the muslim savages are rioting isn't shocking. I wonder if they targeted the Bagram KFC...

Because they thought it would be quick, like they thought Iraq would be quick, and we would have Iran surrounded today.

#66 | Posted by kanrei

who was "they" again?

LOL. Since when? And how hard is it to get on a plane and leave? Why haven't we done that yet?

#68 | Posted by JOE

You really are a complete idiot aren't you.

I showed you a quote where the Defense Secretary says we are committed to withdrawal and you don't even read it?

here is another...

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta laid out the administration's most explicit portrayal of the U.S. drawdown in Afghanistan, saying Wednesday that U.S. and other international forces in Afghanistan expect to end their combat role in 2013 and continue a training and advisory role with Afghan forces through 2014.

The Mission is now to drawdown into an advisory role in Afghanistan.

You all caught up now?

So your proposal for withdrawal is to "get on a plane and leave".

I am sure the commanders on the ground would love your advice. Have you sent them your plans on How to Withdraw from a War in One Day?

I am sure they will get a nice little chuckle out of it.

who was "they" again?

The Government. Remember Obama called Afghanistan the "right war," so don't go playing yet another round of Dubya's fault.

www.theblaze.com

the link for the Panetta quote

The Government. Remember Obama called Afghanistan the "right war," so don't go playing yet another round of Dubya's fault.

#72 | Posted by kanrei

yer too clever for me Kan!

But, it is obvious you know exactly who "they" are.

the guy is a retard. he's as dedicated as corky, but he's just so fucking stupid that he looks even more pathetic.

But, it is obvious you know exactly who "they" are.

Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-22 01:29 PM

And I said who "they" are: the government. Obama has supported the war in Afghanistan since before he was President.

they would never have been in a position to make such a poor decision had the Commander in Chief not ordered them to be in Afghanistan in the first place...

Kanrei is way to smart to fall into my little web...So do you care to take a stab at who that CIC was who gave them their orders and got us tangled up in this mess in the first place JOE?

I showed you a quote where the Defense Secretary says we are committed to withdrawal

Who cares what he says? What matters is what he does. If he were committed to withdrawal, the troops wouldn't be there anymore. We can play an "advisory role" from the United States. Admit that we are there to babysit the Afghani security forces (and in the process, have hundreds of our troops blown to bits) because Obama is afraid that the inevitable violence that will continue in a nation we've failed to build will be blamed on him. In other words, like Sully said, our troops are dying because Obama doesn't want to lose an election.

And I guess you're abandoning your "if you hate the mission, you hate the troops" argument. Just want to be clear on that, retard.

do you care to take a stab at who that CIC was who gave them their orders and got us tangled up in this mess in the first place

I've never denied Bush started the war and that it was a horrible decision. What you need to recognize is that Obama ran on expanding the war, and did expand the war, and our troops have died on his watch. He's in charge now, he is responsible for where our troops currently are.

Bush: Horrible President
Obama: Horrible President

Got it?

Iraq you can lay at Dubya's feet, but Afghanistan was a cluster fuck by all members of both parties each tripping over one another in the post 9-11 world to appear tough and eager to protect America.

the guy is a retard. he's as dedicated as corky, but he's just so fucking stupid that he looks even more pathetic.

#75 | Posted by 101Chairborne

oh hey! looks who is here. they let you out on parole?

that was nice of them.

Updated at 2:40 p.m. ET: KABUL, Afghanistan -- Thousands of angry Afghans protested outside a U.S. military base on Tuesday, some hurling rocks and firing guns in the air, after reports surfaced that American troops had burned copies of the Quran and other religious items.

The demonstrators â€" shouting "Die, die, foreigners!" â€" gathered outside Bagram airbase, an hour's drive north of the capital Kabul. Photographs taken by the AFP news agency outside the airbase, showed people firing slingshots and others holding charred copies of the Quran, Islam's holy book.

"The people are very angry. The mood is very negative," said Zia Ul Rahman, deputy provincial police chief. "Some are firing hunting guns in the air, but there have been no casualties."

"We Afghans don't want these Christians and infidels, they are the enemy of our soil, our honor and our Quran," said Haji Shirin, one of the protesters.

"I urge all Muslims to sacrifice themselves in order to pull out these troops from this soil."

According to Thom Hartmann 7 US soldiers have been killed over this since yesterday.

and they go apeshit if an accident like this occurs...
but then raise billy hell if some muslim here has to take her bea keeping outfit off for drivers liscense..
fuckem
fuckem all....
#59 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2012-02-22 11:32 AM

Uh, this wasn't an "accident". Rightwing assholes who think like you decided to burn Qu'rans, upsetting thousands of local Afghanis into murdering seven of their brothers in arms.

Nite all. The boy has a fever of 102.9 with Motrin. Long night ahead.
#42 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2012-02-21 09:24 PM

102 is optimal fever temperature. Anything above 106 is dangerous. Not fun either way.

Here is my question for a Muslim:

IF they were, in fact, writting Jihad messages in their Korans, wouldn't that mean they defaced their Holy Books first? I know if I wrote things about killing others in a Torah, I have already violated the spirit of that book and it would be ME would defaced it.

Bush: Horrible President
Obama: Horrible President

Got it?

#79 | Posted by JOE

got it JOE. you hate our last two presidents and you have no clue as to what to do about it but to bitch about them. And you think that a War that has been going on for 10 years can be stopped in one day.

Must be nice to be able to wrap yourself in such a hateful and ignorant little cocoon.

What you need to recognize is that Obama ran on expanding the war, and did expand the war, and our troops have died on his watch.

People do die in wars. It is why some of us never want them to start.

But...Hey...have you heard the News?

Osama Bin Laden is DEAD!

He fish food now.

al-Qaeda is decimated in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

And the troops are coming home.

Spin it any way you like.

Everyone will.

"Iraq you can lay at Dubya's feet, but Afghanistan was a cluster fuck by all members of both parties each tripping over one another in the post 9-11 world to appear tough and eager to protect America."

Its not going into Afghanistan was the problem. That was absolutely necessary. We had to hit back against those who attacked us.

What was stupid is adding the nation building piece to it. And many people influenced that decision. Conventional wisdom at the time was "You can't just go in and blow stuff up and leave!" (And my response was always "Why not?") But ultimately, Bush decided to make this a national building mission and Obama chose to perpetuate it so I blame the two of them specifcially and nobody else.

Its not going into Afghanistan was the problem. That was absolutely necessary. We had to hit back against those who attacked us

I disagree. Once they started talking about how horrible the Taliban was to the women, I knew there was not enough justification to support invading.

"Once they started talking about how horrible the Taliban was to the women, I knew there was not enough justification to support invading."

The Taliban supported Al Queda in every attack they made against us.

The attack on our embassies was enough reason to invade on its own. How did we not have enough justification?

The Taliban supported Al Queda in every attack they made against us.


The same people who told us that told us WMDs were in Iraq and we knew where they were.

The same people who told us that told us we knew Saddam was part of 9-11.

I don't give credit to known liars. All we know is Saudia Arabia was involved in 9-11.

"The same people who told us that told us WMDs were in Iraq and we knew where they were.

The same people who told us that told us we knew Saddam was part of 9-11.

I don't give credit to known liars. All we know is Saudia Arabia was involved in 9-11."

Huh? The evidence of the symbiotic relationship between Al Queda and the Taliban was widely reported and common knowledge well BEFORE 9/11.

It was never denied by any of the parties until after 9/11 when the shit hit the fan.

The evidence of the symbiotic relationship between Al Queda and the Taliban was widely reported and common knowledge well BEFORE 9/11.


Let's agree to disagree. This is a hijack in the making. Whatever got us there or why, we are there and should focus on getting out. We can continue assigning blame when the killing is done.

Whatever got us there or why, we are there and should focus on getting out. We can continue assigning blame when the killing is done.

#90 | Posted by kanrei

I would agree with that.

Now maybe someone can explain to JOE why they can't all just get on a plane and fly out today.

STFU, BonerBoy, and stop pretending Obama has been anti-war throughout his presidency. He ran on expanding the war in Afghanistan, and he DID expand the war in Afghanistan. For you to pretend that the only reason we are still there today is because Bush started the war is laughable. The drawdown process could have begun the day Obama took office. It didn't. Own it, and shut the fuck up.

Now maybe someone can explain to JOE why they can't all just get on a plane and fly out today.

Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-22 02:20 PM

I don't see why either. We did it with Vietnam and are at peace with them today.

It was said "how can you ask someone to be the last one to die for a mistake," but I think it is worse to keep allowing people to die so you don't have to ask. If I knew beyond a doubt my death would bring the 100% of the troops home tomorrow, then kill me now.

"We did it with Vietnam and are at peace with them today."

Eventually.

Nearly half of the Americans killed in the Vietnam War died while Nixon and Kissinger were trying to come up with a way the US could bug out without appearing to, well, bug out.

Obama's views on Afghanistan bothered me when he was running for office - and still do - because as far as I'm concerned, the mission was to go in and beat the bejabbers out of Al Qaeda, make sure no government there would give those bastards protective cover ever again, and leave. Unfortunately, the Bush Admin. got distracted by Iraq and the quagmire started developing.

The sooner we're out of that place, the better.

"Iraq you can lay at Dubya's feet, but Afghanistan was a cluster fuck by all members of both parties each tripping over one another in the post 9-11 world to appear tough and eager to protect America."
Its not going into Afghanistan was the problem. That was absolutely necessary. We had to hit back against those who attacked us.
What was stupid is adding the nation building piece to it. And many people influenced that decision. Conventional wisdom at the time was "You can't just go in and blow stuff up and leave!" (And my response was always "Why not?") But ultimately, Bush decided to make this a national building mission and Obama chose to perpetuate it so I blame the two of them specifcially and nobody else.
#85 | Posted by Sully at 2012-02-22 01:47 PM

FUCK YOU. Those who perpetrated 9/11 were the very administration that took us into two illegal and WRONGFUL wars, decimating our own national treasure, privatizing the entire affair including the OIL the actual military were sent to "guard".

I despise your "forced to attack" bullshit. If granted one button..

History Channel has a series called "Gangland." It is currently streaming on Netflix.

Everyone concerned about acts like this should watch the episode about gang-members joining the army for combat experience and training to take home and teach fellow gang-bangers.

NUKE MECCA......make it fuckin parkin lot...

#57 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

Brilliant. Nuke Mecca. That can't possibly turn out bad.

You sir, should be fired as a teacher. You are just another example of why people in Texas are so fucked up.

The sooner we're out of that place, the better.

#94 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I agree. I believe that is why Panetta floated the trial balloon of moving up the date to 2013.

If the Republicans don't go total retard and try to make out like Obama is cutting and running we could probably do that.

But, I think you are forgetting several things. We have millions of tons of equipment and weapons that need to be accounted for... and if we just walked (or flew) out after breaking the place we do run the risk of leaving it in worse condition than we found it with the power vacuum that will be left there. Though I think it is too late now to fix that.

And then there is the whole issue of leaving it's resources to Pakistan.

I think this is probably the most bitter pill we will have to swallow.

Then there is the whole (Republican) idea of making sure they are not a threat to us before we go. I think they are not a threat anymore (if they ever were).

Since we are now considered occupiers I don't think anything can be really be accomplished on the ground about that anymore anyway.

It is definitely time to start packing our trash.

NUKE MECCA......make it fuckin parkin lot...
#57 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

Brilliant. Nuke Mecca. That can't possibly turn out bad.
You sir, should be fired as a teacher. You are just another example of why people in Texas are so fucked up.
#97 | Posted by ClownShack

In fairness to Aflak, I don't believe he's taught since the Sam Rayburn Independent School District cut its support for the Shiner Bock Oompah Marching Band and Teen Titties on Parade Drill Team.

#98 | Posted by donnerboy

Couldn't agree with you more on that.

I realize it's actually impossible to just say, "Okay, folks, we're leaving at 0533 tomorrow morning." There's a logistics situation to work out and there are a lot of loose ends that'll need tying up.

I suspect Obama's doing it about as well as he can. Because the moment anything go wrong, the GOPiggies, fine patriots that they are, will start yammering about how he's putting "America's finest in harm's way."

Here is my question for a Muslim:
IF they were, in fact, writting Jihad messages in their Korans, wouldn't that mean they defaced their Holy Books first? I know if I wrote things about killing others in a Torah, I have already violated the spirit of that book and it would be ME would defaced it.
#83 | Posted by kanrei at 2012-02-22 01:40 PM

EXCELLENT question - sorry I missed this.

IF you believe that's the reason these books were burned.

I have yet to see any writing from any of the remaining books.

None of the locals have mentioned it - only the military spokesperson.

Remember what the US was doing with Qu'ran in GITMO - ripping the pages off and shoving them down the toilet to offend the prisoner into "confession". Americans have ZERO reliability when it comes to upholding "American values".

"Let's agree to disagree. This is a hijack in the making. Whatever got us there or why, we are there and should focus on getting out. We can continue assigning blame when the killing is done."

OK, but I really have to resist the urge.....

I agree with you on getting out right now. I really don't care how Afghanistan turns out after we're gone so long as they leave us the fuck alone. I think the whole nation building exercise has actually confused Afghanis. The message we should have sent was "Your government help hit us on 9/11 so now we are hitting your government and its terrorists allies...." (I realize you don't agree with this but that should have been our position based on our reasons for going in there) All that was needed is a quick, punitive operation. By warping the whole thing into some nation building fiasco, we confuse the message. Did we invade because of 9/11 or because we wanted to install a democoracy? If it was the former, why are we still there?

Never made sense. Still makes no sense. Will not make any sense next week either...

I realize it's actually impossible to just say, "Okay, folks, we're leaving at 0533 tomorrow morning." There's a logistics situation to work out and there are a lot of loose ends that'll need tying up.

I suspect Obama's doing it about as well as he can.

Ramping up the war in the first place necessarily pushed the drawdown date further into the future. To claim he's "doing as well as he can" ignores that basic fact.

"FUCK YOU. Those who perpetrated 9/11 were the very administration that took us into two illegal and WRONGFUL wars, decimating our own national treasure, privatizing the entire affair including the OIL the actual military were sent to "guard".

I despise your "forced to attack" bullshit. If granted one button.."

I despise self-loathing 9/11 conspiracy idiots like you so I guess we're even.

"FUCK YOU. Those who perpetrated 9/11 were the very administration that took us into two illegal and WRONGFUL wars, decimating our own national treasure, privatizing the entire affair including the OIL the actual military were sent to "guard".
I despise your "forced to attack" bullshit. If granted one button.."
I despise self-loathing 9/11 conspiracy idiots like you so I guess we're even.
#104 | Posted by Sully at 2012-02-22 03:35 PM

Hey, sorry for the strong language - you didn't expect it because you don't deserve it.

But we have to agree that both aspects of 9/11 and the build-up to invasion were happening long before the events themselves. Some would also claim that they were "allowed" to transpire..

"But we have to agree that both aspects of 9/11 and the build-up to invasion were happening long before the events themselves. Some would also claim that they were "allowed" to transpire.."

I can agree that we invaded Iraq on false pretenses. The war had nothing to do with an impending threat to the US or the 2nd excuse which was "Saddam is a really bad guy and we need to help Iraqis".

Even the "official story" of 9/11 never justified an invasion of Iraq.

To claim he's "doing as well as he can" ignores that basic fact.

#103 | Posted by joe

To claim he is not ignores just about all the rest of the facts surrounding this great misadventure. Not all of America's efforts there were failures but many were...Like the failed COIN strategy adopted by Gen David Petraeus and supported by Admiral Mike Mullen which created a mirage of success as we are now finding out.

To claim he is not ignores just about all the rest of the facts surrounding this great misadventure.

#107 | Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-22 04:29 PM

It's a misadventure, but Obama's right to have kept us there even after killing OBL.

Because Obama can do no wrong. Every single decision is exactly the right one. He is the only perfect human after all.

"But we have to agree that both aspects of 9/11 and the build-up to invasion were happening long before the events themselves. Some would also claim that they were "allowed" to transpire.."

I can agree that we invaded Iraq on false pretenses. The war had nothing to do with an impending threat to the US or the 2nd excuse which was "Saddam is a really bad guy and we need to help Iraqis".

Even the "official story" of 9/11 never justified an invasion of Iraq.
#106 | Posted by Sully at 2012-02-22 04:24 PM

What I'm intimating is that both the invasion of Iraq was planned out before BushCo took control, but also the events of 9/11 were seriously considered months before they unfolded. The Pentagon actually had a scale model with a 757 crashed through all three rings. It was all foreseen, planned and executed like clockwork. The bombs in the buildings proves it. The fact that none of the "pilots" were capable proves it. Things happened differently from what we have been told.

If an aircraft was shot down above Shanksville our government wouldn't need to cover it up, would they? Unless that plane didn't have passengers? Is that why "someone" dug a twenty foot ditch, dumped in some garbage and set in on fire? It's obviously not a plane crash, and the mineshaft theory is rather, uh, incredible. Where did that plane go? Why didn't they want to expose the plane in particular? All fo the plane materials was sent to China. Very strange behavior from an administration in the midst of a terrorism investigation.

...but Obama's right to have kept us there even after killing OBL.

What? Obama killed Osama Bin Laden?

Why that is awesome news!

I knew he could do it if he set his mind to it.

Way to go Obama!

Now ...was that the ONLY reason we were there? That the only thing you remember from the Bush Error?

As I recall there were other reasons too.

While the stated aim of the invasion was to get Osama bin Laden...

There was also the goal of finding other high-ranking al-Qaeda members and putting them on trial.

Destroying the organization of al-Qaeda.

Removing the Taliban regime which supported and gave safe harbor to al-Qaeda.

And remember how George W. Bush stated that, as policy, it would not distinguish between terrorist organizations and nations or governments that harbored them? Pakistan sure made that policy complicated.

As for the "surge"...

have you forgotten how, as written in the The New York Magazine when Gen. Stanley McChrystal leaked out the need for additional troops which apparently boxed Obama into a corner forcing him to boost troop levels in Afghanistan?

They referred to it as the "McChrystal risk"(leaking of information to force presidential action).

And even though he deployed an additional 30,000 troops he also set the withdrawal date of 2014.

Democrats accused him of not withdrawing soon enough while Republicans hinted he was cutting and running.

"It has been the hope of many in Congress and across the country that the full drawdown of U.S. forces would happen sooner than the president laid out -- and we will continue to press for a better outcome," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif

Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, warned Obama not to sacrifice the gains the U.S. has made in Afghanistan, while Arizona Sen. John McCain said the drawdown was too rash.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney accused Obama of proposing an "arbitrary timetable" and said the decision on withdrawing troops "should not be based on politics or economics."

#110 | Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-22 05:12 PM

So you're saying he was boxed "into a corner forcing him to boost troop levels in Afghanistan" even though he campaigned on it before he was President?

ROFL

BonerBoy's doppleganger:

How Barack Obama won.

He was a man for the time, he was the right man at the right time with the right message.

Yes, we can.

We've had several in the past, you know their names.

He came from almost nowhere just when the country needed most one of the things it had nearly lost, one of the things money can't buy.

Hope

Yes, we can.

They tried to run him down with hate, they tried turn us all against him. But his message of hope and a future that can be bright for all the people of this country shone through it all.

Yes, we can.

He did not ask us to back him, he did not say he could take care of us, he did not want the job for his ego or to "rule". He simply asked for our help to fix this mess.

Yes, WE can

"I do not want to be President of blue America, or Red America, I want to be President of the UNITED States of America."

Yes, we can.

That is what it takes to lead a "movement" of the people, and that will always prevail over a "campaign".

Yes, we can make history. Yes, we can.

Posted by boyracer_x at 2008-11-05 09:07 PM

The capitalized WE is the best part.

So you're saying he was boxed "into a corner forcing him to boost troop levels in Afghanistan" even though he campaigned on it before he was President?

ROFL

#111 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

nope...Are you saying the New Yorker made it up?

just saying it was one of those "rest of the facts" ya'll seem to want to forget. And that was just a few tidbits. There are a whole lot more to the history of this War. Don't have time to recap 10 years of history for you.

Now go clean the spittle off yer shirt.

nope...Are you saying the New Yorker made it up?

#114 | Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-22 06:41 PM

If he was campaigning on doing it, he wasn't forced.

You can't possibly be this retarded.

It certainly begs the question-how does one go about disposing of old Quran's that either have been graffiti 'd on like these were, or were just too worn for re-use??

Here is my question for a Muslim:

IF they were, in fact, writting Jihad messages in their Korans, wouldn't that mean they defaced their Holy Books first? I know if I wrote things about killing others in a Torah, I have already violated the spirit of that book and it would be ME would defaced it.

#83 | Posted by kanrei

Exactly.

I have NEVER seen ANYONE scribble in a Koran.

Which is why Americans are only lying.

I know if I wrote things about killing others in a Torah, I have already violated the spirit of that book and it would be ME would defaced it.

Correct.

And then there is the whole issue of leaving it's resources to Pakistan.

I think this is probably the most bitter pill we will have to swallow.

Bitter for Dinnerboys.

Not so for Tossers.

The winner takes all. But I do salute you and your people for helping out for the last 11 years. LOL

Meanwhile....

www.dawn.com

Taliban urge Afghans to kill the invaders. LOL

Hearts and Minds, was it?

Got a bar of chocolate shoved up your own ass, yeah? LOL

Taliban urge Afghans to kill the invaders.

Must be day ending in a "Y".

LOL.

Be Well.

Peer
Mangal
Budh
Jumairaat
Juma
Hafta
Itwaar

None of them end in "Y" as far as I can see.

The worst incident was in Khogyani in Nangarhar province, where a man wearing an Afghan army uniform killed two Nato soldiers who are believed to be from the US.

Two protesters were also killed and seven injured as Nato forces opened fire when armed men attacked the US/Afghan base. BBC

Ooooooo.... Hearts and Minds at work....

Give 'em a chocolate bar. Maybe they'll calm down?

I have NEVER seen ANYONE scribble in a Koran.

#117 | Posted by Tosser

Probably because they are all illiterate and can't write.

Probably because they are all illiterate and can't write.

Then they can't read a Koran either, can they? Idiot.

#101
Redlight.
Here's a closeup image from CNN of a semi-torched book.
(Wondering how those were acquired?)
that show written inscriptions on a page.
i2.cdn.turner.com
Unless they books are written all cockeyed like that.
:)

Looks like the writing is by someone who can't write the Arabic script and has copied a word or a phrase over and over like a picture.

BTW, I have never seen a Koran... if that is what it is... so sloppily printed.

This is what a Koran should look like.... The printing is usually pretty intricate and beautiful.

islampoetry.files.wordpress.co
m

www.islam101.com

www.quranresearchs.org

www.alquranacademy.co.uk

WTF is THAT???


NATO Burns Korans at Bagram

Why is it that when the US armed forces fucks up they call themselves 'NATO'? Did NATO kill OBL?

"White House press secretary Jay Carney called it a "deeply unfortunate incident."

Jayzuz KAYrist can't we go a week without the white house bending over to kiss the enemy's ass?

Then they can't read a Koran either, can they? Idiot.

#124 | Posted by Tosser

True, they can't read it either. Mostly they just stare at it with awe.

Nevertheless, those illiterate fools have theories on God that are somehow correct?

Not likely. There's a statistically greater chance that you're actually Yule Gibbons.

Burning a Koran could be useful at getting Muslims to climb out of their goat holes where our military could shoot the MFers.

The prisoners were using the books to pass messages. There is no talk about that DEFACING of the koran.

Clearly this is those with an ANTI-US adjenda working up the locals to gain more power for themselfs

Brilliant. Nuke Mecca. That can't possibly turn out bad.

You sir, should be fired as a teacher. You are just another example of why people in Texas are so fucked up.

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2012-02-

and you are an example of some douchebag eating punk who thinks he knows what he's talking about when referring to someone here.

you tell iran or any of them...just one nuke attack and your precious mecca will be just a large hole in the fucking ground.

you can say anything little pissant comment you want about me. I stopped givin a fuck about what some posters here say. you simply dont have a clue and this is your only way of somehow striking back at me.
the social network site dedicated to ME while at one school says something different...so PLEASE..go outside, bend over..stick your head up your ass and sneeze.

one more time

afghanistan
GET THE FUCK OUT NOW.....

Yep AssBabble, all of that. Glad you got your chance to vent.

... douchebag eating punk...

Does that mean I'm a douchbag that eats punks?

Or that I'm a douchebag punk that eats?

Im not sure...

douchebag
fuchead
dickhead
democrat
liberal

AW SHUCKS, nevermind...they all sound bad to me...

AND there is always this to consider..but then I guess since barry's the pres and he put his hand out to these fucks...we shouldnt worry about these sort of threats..

dailycaller.com

Tosser, I am bored.

With your reference to making wax-slugs I think you are going from general level American (the kind I'm sure you easily acheived by Class Five), to downright honky tonk level.

I've never even heard of wax slugs and I thought I was too American, with an ex-friend's mom even subtly trying to put me down by saying, "Oh YS, you're so American!", but even I haven't heard of a wax slug. Making it at home is something, I think would be best left to the good men of Darra Adam Khel.

What kind of American are you becoming hanging around here Tosser bhai?

The winner takes all. But I do salute you and your people for helping out for the last 11 years. LOL

#118 | Posted by Tosser

Yes and I am sure the American people and all the NATO countries will remember you so fondly for it.

Enjoy your spoils.

We'll smile sadly as Afghanistan falls back to the Taliban and when the Taliban take over your country and then we'll go back to ignoring you completely again. I am a pretty diversified guy but I for one have learned way more about your shitty part of the world than I ever wanted to know.

Bitter for Dinnerboys.

Not so for Tossers.

yeah... me personally not having access to Afghanistan's resources is really gonna cramp my style.

Anyway, so tonite...we are having baby back pork ribs with homegrown baked potato and sour cream (with real butter) and corn on the cob and fresh salad with sweet pea crisps.

Desert is fresh home baked pumpkin bread (with home grown pumpkins) with this really nice homemade icing.

So you enjoy yer Karachi dumpster burgers...hope you were able to get to a flush toilet in time this time. Have they called your number yet?

And watch out for them low flying Drones (that you kicked out of your country).

homegrown baked potato and sour cream (with real butter) and corn on the cob and fresh salad with sweet pea crisps

Tasteless. Bland as hell.

pumpkin bread

Worse than tasteless. Like bread with dense chewed up lumps of bread stuck in parts of it.

Karachi Burgers

Barbecued chicken wrapped in fried wheat or flour bread, with spicy, garlic mayo. Two of those and you're done for the day. In the happiest way possible.

Try the non-microwavable stuff there YS. Can Democrats still cook, or is that acting White now too?

the non-microwavable stuff there

Been done. Had it cooked and fresh. Very, very bland.

Can Democrats still cook, or is that acting White now too

Actually, cooking is the real Desi/South Asian way to go. And if we're cooking, it's preferable to do the more complicated, and better tasting Indian/Pakistani food. I mean baked potato, seems extremely simplistic and bland. I'ld rather make potato chick peas. It goes well with either fried wheat bread (parathas) or fried flour bread (puris).

Who the hell said I'm a Democrat? Please keep that two party BS away from me.

I think they should have soaked them in pigs blood before burning them! And they should have used water canons pumping pig blood to clear the protesters away! Fuck them!

Better yet fill paint balls with pigs blood and little snippets of the Koran! That would be lots of fun!

I've never even heard of wax slugs

You have now. Enjoy.

youtu.be

Making it at home is something, I think would be best left to the good men of Darra Adam Khel.

LOL... these are simple to make. Watch video.

I'ld rather make potato chick peas. It goes well with either fried wheat bread (parathas) or fried flour bread (puris).

youtu.be

Breakfast served only on Sundays unfortunately.

we are having baby back pork ribs with homegrown baked potato and sour cream (with real butter) and corn on the cob and fresh salad with sweet pea crisps.

Only a retarded American DinnerBoy would try to impress a South Asian with his tasteless food.

Really... you have no idea do you? LOL

not having access to Afghanistan's resources is really gonna cramp my style.

"It will be the most bitter pill we will have to swallow"... DinnerBoy.

YOUR words, DinnerBoy. Own them. LOL

when the Taliban take over your country

Not before the Mexican drug cartels take over yours.

I for one have learned way more about your shitty part of the world than I ever wanted to know.

Oh, you're about to learn a lot more, I am guessing. LOL

And watch out for them low flying Drones

The same drones that are not allowed by Pakistan to hit the Haqqani network? LOL

Once more to show the world what a little twerp our DinnerBoy is...

And then there is the whole issue of leaving it's resources to Pakistan.

I think this is probably the most bitter pill we will have to swallow.

#98 | Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-22 02:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

DinnerBoy's own words. hahahahahahahahahahaha

i just looked it up. they're never supposed to be burned unless there is no option. they're supposed to be wrapped in something clean and buried. someone at the base should have googled it and saved the drama.

#47 | Posted by BruceBanner

Thanks Bruce.

That certainly would have saved at least two soldiers who are now dead.

You know what would of saved their lives? Not being in Afghanistan.

To an American lawmaker bi-partisan delegation visiting Pakistan, the Prime Minister said:

Sources say the prime minister also raised the issue of recent burning of copies of the Holy Quran at a US military base in Afghanistan.

"Such shameful acts will certainly make it difficult for the Pakistani government to support the US," Gilani was quoted as telling the American lawmakers.

That certainly would have saved at least two soldiers who are now dead.

Yep.

The stupidity of the American military is astounding. Why make trouble when there doesn't have to be any trouble in the first place?

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