Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Bill Moyers: Watching what's happening to our democracy is like watching the cruise ship Costa Concordia founder and sink slowly into the sea off the coast of Italy, as the passengers, shorn of life vests, scramble for safety as best they can, while the captain trips and falls conveniently into a waiting life boat. We are drowning here, with gaping holes torn into the hull of the ship of state from charges detonated by the owners and manipulators of capital. Their wealth has become a demonic force in politics. Nothing can stop them.

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When all is said and done, this race for the White House may cost more than two billion dollars. What's getting trampled into dust are the voices of people who aren't rich, not to mention what's left of our democracy. As Democratic pollster Peter Hart told The New Yorker magazine's Jane Mayer, "It's become a situation where the contest is how much you can destroy the system, rather than how much you can make it work. It makes no difference if you have a ‘D' or an ‘R' after your name. There's no sense that this is about democracy, and after the election you have to work together, and knit the country together."

Here's what bothers me about this; no one looks at what kind of person it takes to tow the line laid down by these billionaire donors.

There error in this article is calling the US a democracy. We haven't been a democracy for 100 years.

The plutocracy knows that, as evidenced by the 'arab spring' that revolution is a very real possibility. NDAA and several other unconstitutional new laws are designed to prevent that fron happening here.

Whichever candidate wins the 2012 presidential election will have been bought and paid for by the 1 percent.

Yeah, Moyers doesn't get any phone calls from the White House any more.

He's as lunatic fringe as Amy Goodman or Matt Taibbi or Ralph Nader now. Poor bastard.

There error in this article is calling the US a democracy. We haven't been a democracy for 100 years.

+1

Your sarcasm aside, we were never meant to be a majority democracy that the left is creaming in their pants about...

He's as lunatic fringe...
#3 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

.......attacking the messenger means that you have no reasoned response to the message........

@1
www.youtube.com

www.topix.com

Sorry, but don't kill the messenger.

bill moyers...yeah okay...
you have to admire his insight into these sort of workings but lets also not forget who he worked for.

lyndon baines johnson....ask people in south texas about voting fraud and mr. lbj.

SO maybe he knows a lot about it from personal experience...but the bet is that no matter what he finds...any boogey men will have 'r's after thier name.

Billionaires running our country just for the benefit of the very rich and their corporate brotherhood! Teabaggers rejoice!

What a stupid opinion piece. Can't you just once post an article that is not certifiably stupid? "Their wealth has become a demonic force in politics." Pffft. I mean, really.

No citation necessary.

piece is mensa worthy compared to comment from clanciwhothefuckareyou...

'Teabaggers'.
Funny, I haven't heard that term since the OWS people threw in with the communists and started shitting in public parks.

but the bet is that no matter what he finds...any boogey men will have 'r's after thier name.

#8 | Posted by afkabl2

Here's a quote that shows YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN.
"Whichever candidate wins the 2012 presidential election will have been bought and paid for by the 1 percent"

He's saying the dems are bought by the plutocrats too.

Get it?

Or should I draw a cartoon for you?

idiot.

.......attacking the messenger means that you have no reasoned response to the message........
#5 | Posted by skizziks

Who was attacking? I love Bill Moyers.

moyers is a SEVERE libfux of the highest order........Im still waiting on word about the charges about money and npr or something like that..naturally, it was either ignored or swept under the rug or the iike...and then I would want to know how that might effect his views as given here...but then that would ALSO mean I would want to know the whole story and not just lies and lies and other lies from goddamn democrats and tier MEDIA MATTERS whores and johns.

^Word Salad of the Day.

"Bill Moyers: Watching what's happening to our democracy is like watching the cruise ship Costa Concordia...."

Does Moyer (and my little "progressive" DR friends) know that we are NOT a democracy but a Republic instead? Figures...

I Long For The Day When The Poor Are In Control Of The World's Resources.

Things Will Surely Improve At This Juncture.

Be Well.

Sorry moron it is not billionaires causing issues. It is parasite politicians who make themselves millionaires off the backs of the people that are the problem. Their socialist tendencies being the method they use to plunder everyone.

So get it right next time and flame the people actually causing the problem.

Sorry moron it is not billionaires causing issues. It is parasite politicians who make themselves millionaires off the backs of the people that are the problem. Their socialist tendencies being the method they use to plunder everyone.

So get it right next time and flame the people actually causing the problem.

#19 | Posted by priddseren

He did get it right. Moron.

Who do you think is funding the parasitic politicians? Parasitic plutocrats. Millionaires and billionaires, buying off the meager politicians.

The politicians aren't the problem. Kick them out and they'll be replaced by more of the same. No human can resist what they're being offered.

The SYSTEM which allows their bribery is the problem. And that SYSTEM was created by the rich plutocrats so that they can rig the entire game.

Yes politicians are corrupt. They are corrupted by the plutocrat's rigged game.

All solvable by public election funding. Until we get put a wall between the billionaires and our elected representatives, nothing good can happen.

This is the tea parties folly. They were smart enough to see that we're fucked. But they were dumb enough to be brainwashed into blaming washington, instead of blaming the rich elites who own the whole town. This is where OWS proved to be much more clear sighted than the teabaggers. Blame fox. The plutocrats fantasy channel.

What liberal nutjobs like Moyers ignores is that anyone can join a political group such as AARP, The National Wildlife Federation or The National Rifle Association to lobby for their caus in equal competition with billionaires such as whackjobs like George Soros.

Cleptocracy.

We don't have a Democracy, President Wilson was the first to use that term. Moyers you are an idiot or you have some agenda because we have a Representative Republic not a democracy.

The most important victory in Indochina was in 1965, a U.S.-backed military coup in Indonesia led by General Suharto carried out massive crimes that were compared by the CIA to those of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. The mass slaughter was reported accurately with unrestrained euphoria. After the genocidal invasion of East Timor, Suharto was welcomed by the Clinton administration in 1995 as "our kind of guy."

Despite such victories, by 1970, U.S. share of world wealth had dropped to about 25%, roughly where it remains, colossal but far below the 50% at the end of WWII. By then, the industrial world was "tripolar": US-based North America, German-based Europe, and East Asia, already the most dynamic industrial region, first Japan-based, but also former Japanese colonies Taiwan and South Korea, and more recently China.

About that time, American decline entered a new phase: conscious self-inflicted decline. From the 1970s, planners, private and state, shifted the us economy toward financialization and offshoring of production, driven in part by the declining rate of profit in domestic manufacturing. These decisions initiated a vicious cycle in which wealth became highly concentrated in the top 0.1%, yielding concentration of political power and legislation to deepen the cycle: taxation and other fiscal policies, deregulation, changes in the rules of corporate governance allowing huge gains for executives, and so on.

Meanwhile, for most people, real wages stagnated, and people got by only with sharply increased workloads (far beyond Europe), unsustainable debt, and repeated bubbles since the Reagan years, creating paper wealth that inevitably disappeared when they burst (and the perpetrators were bailed out by the taxpayer). In parallel, the political system has been increasingly shredded as both parties are driven deeper into corporate pockets with the escalating cost of elections, the Republicans to the level of farce, the Democrats not far behind.

A recent study by the Economic Policy Institute is entitled "Failure by Design". The phrase "by design" is accurate. As the study points out, the "failure" is class-based. There is no failure for the designers. Rather, the policies are a failure for the large majority, the 99% in the imagery of the Occupy movements, and for the country, which has declined and will continue to do so under these policies.

One factor is the offshoring of manufacturing. As the solar panel example mentioned earlier illustrates, manufacturing capacity provides the basis and stimulus for innovation leading to higher stages of sophistication in production, design, and invention. That, too, is being outsourced, not a problem for the "money mandarins" who make policy, but a serious problem for working people and the middle classes, and a real disaster for the most oppressed, African Americans, who have never escaped the legacy of slavery and its ugly aftermath, and whose meager wealth virtually disappeared after the collapse of the housing bubble in 2008, setting off the most recent financial crisis, the worst so far.

excerpted from Noam Chomsky

Our problems stem from our acceptance of this filthy rotten system. - Saint Dorothy Day.

The plutocrats own the system by this point and they have been gaming it shamelessly.

Both parties are bought and sold.

The flight of capital upwards has been dizzying.

People should be mad at both the plutocrats who are running things and the meat puppet pols they run but as usual they have half the population yelling at the other half and vice versa instead of united against the rich gaming the system to get richer while everyone else sees their quality of life degrade.

Obama's attempts at instituting a Buffet Rule are doomed to failure.

Hopefully enough people pay attention this time when it does.

Not holding my breath on that front.

Be Well.

are we ran by billionaires well one way to tell is by how many bankers have been arrested for the financial melt down they helped cause.

NONE hmmm

But Alito disagrees...

/obligatory

piece is mensa worthy compared to comment from clanciwhothefuckareyou...
#11 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2012-02-14 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag: OH THE IRONY

#21 | Posted by fwthom at 2012-02-14 08:20 PM

And exactly WHICH candidates and PACs is he pumping millions to right now, like that Las Vegas billionaire casino owner is? and the Koch brothers are? and the Houston millionaire home builder Bob Perry?

If we ever want true democracy back, we'd have to break into many small countries. National elections require too much money and the money will always go to those most willing to sell out. On a small scale, grassroots candidates can get their message out and money is less of an advantage.

We are run by foreign countries more IMHO. We have no idea where these PACS get their money from. China? Iran? Al Qeada? All possible.

Our system was supposed to be free from any foreign influence which is the exact reason all Presidents must be US born.

How do we allow PACs with mystery funding?

Bill Moyers: Watching what's happening to our democracy is like watching the cruise ship Costa Concordia founder and sink slowly into the sea off the coast of Italy, as the passengers, shorn of life vests, scramble for safety as best they can, while the captain trips and falls conveniently into a waiting life boat.

POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 03:32 PM | 32 COMMENTS | PERMALINK | COMMENT ON THIS ENTRY |

Using this analogy Obama would be the captain and the international banking cartel (goldman sachs) would own Obamas lifeboat.

Mitt Romney would already be sipping non alcoholic champaign back at the yacht club.

Newt would be hanging out at the nude beach on shore flirting with anyone but his wife. (sorry for the visual)

Santorum would be on the deck forceing everyone to pray...but only for the
Christians.

And Ron Paul would be the Captian of the Coast Guard Vessel attempting to save all whom would hear his ships bell.

Ron Paul is alost as whacky as his supporters. Almost.

Since the USSC determined that corporations are "people", corporations have owned the people.

Some "people" have more Free Speech than other people.

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