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Police officers are among the worst speeders on Florida roads, according to a three-month Sun Sentinel investigation that used data from police SunPass toll records. The paper found that almost 800 cops from a dozen agencies drove 90 to 130 mph on highways, many of whom weren't on duty -- they were commuting to and from work in patrol cars. Since 2004, Florida officers exceeding the speed limit have caused at least 320 crashes and 19 deaths. Only one officer went to jail -- for 60 days. "They think that they have carte blanche. Who's going to catch them? Who's going to do anything about it?" said state Sen. Steve Oelrich (R-Gainesville), a former sheriff.

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Everyone in South Florida is talking about the cops who break the law over and over with impunity, we all always knew our police, our courts and our prosecutors are corrupt but now we have proof. I hope this investigation will bring change but truthfully South Florida's police agencies need to be investigated by the federal government. They are so corrupt that many Floridians consider them to be no better than the criminals.

Speeding cops can kill. Since 2004, Florida officers exceeding the speed limit have caused at least 320 crashes and 19 deaths. Only one officer went to jail â€" for 60 days.

For some reason I think this will taken just as seriously.

One of my buds is a cop and this is not just a SoFl thing it's all over. Cops don't give each other or friends tickets.

Only exception is we were hanging out one day and he was in his cruiser well another bud did a peel out in the parking lot ran the stop sign at the exit and laid on it. Usualy my friend would have let it go but seeing as he was in his cruiser and all the people at the strip mall started looking at him when it happened he had no choice but to hit the blues and bust him.

I am not sure who was more pissed at whom, the cop who had to bust his friend was pissed that he put him in that position, but the friend was pissed the cop busted him. I was just laughing my ass off, well till I had to give the idiot rides everywhere after they suspended his license.

Sounds like your friend is a real winner.

"Cops don't give each other or friends tickets."

Then they are criminals.

"Cops don't give each other or friends tickets."
Then they are criminals.
#5 | Posted by danni

They call it Police Discretion.

#5 | POSTED BY DANNI

OK Danni time to stretch you imagination a bit here.

Let's say Fl passes a law and all citizens have to play cop for 2 weeks out of the year. Do you really expect anyone to believe you would write dear old mom a ticket? I can see most people writing them for family members they don't like but I'm willing to say that if the ticket drives up your favorite kid's or aunts insurance premium you'll be like the rest of us and turn a blind eye.

They do have Carte Blanche, aka "professional courtesy". So does every Doctor.

Do you really expect anyone to believe you would write dear old mom a ticket?

Depending on the will and insurance policy, we've got folk here who would shoot their mom for "resisting arrest".

"Do you really expect anyone to believe you would write dear old mom a ticket?"

If "dear old mom" was doing 120 and endangering the lives of everyone else then you better believe I would want "dear old mom" to be incarcerated.

you better believe I would want "dear old mom" to be incarcerated.

#10 | Posted by danni

I am detecting some mom issues here danni. I am not your psychologist but you might want to suggest to them that you explore that area at your next appointment.

Yeah a guy who has been shot at a couple times yet has never had to discharge any weapon even nonlethal ones and works his ass off is a "real winner" JPW.

"Cops don't give each other or friends tickets."
Then they are criminals.
#5 | Posted by danni

They call it Police Discretion.

#6 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

It's called Professional courtesy. And why are you angry, Danni? You call this corruption? Give me a fucking break. Liberals are truly childish and hate authority that much to whine about this? Police officers go through alot protecting our asses from the assholes of society. So if I caught one speeding a little bit would I ticket them? No. So Petty.

Now if that cop wasnt there to protect you, I bet you would have a different story. I guess you just think no one assaults you because you are a woman? Or maybe you think it's because there is a law on the books? NO, you dont get assaulted because someone else would haul the perp off to jail. Without someone protecting you, your little temper tantrum means nothing and is quite vain to me...Rest assured, without the police there to protect your liberal ass, a little speeding ticket is the last thing you would be worried about.

Yeah a guy who has been shot at a couple times yet has never had to discharge any weapon even nonlethal ones and works his ass off is a "real winner" JPW.

Where do you get that I was talking about the cop? Are you really that moronic?

I was referring to the one who was evidently close to having his license suspended who decided to peel out of a parking lot, breaking several traffic laws, in front of a cop and then get pissed when he had to write him the ticket, causing a suspension of his license and forcing him to mooch rides off of others.

They call it Police Discretion.

Police should have no discretion. That is what the courts are for.

Police officers go through alot protecting our asses from the assholes of society.

That why they get to retire early.

Now if that cop wasnt there to protect you, I bet you would have a different story.

If cops weren't there, people would find other ways to protect themselves. After all, we do have the 2nd amendment.

They do have Carte Blanche, aka "professional courtesy". So does every Doctor.

Since when does a doctor extending a "professional courtesy" break the law?

.... US Judicial System is "Above" the Law!

**** This is of course what happens when you leave Law Enforcement entirely up to the untouchable "Cronyism" of POLICEMEN & JUDGES!!!

Cops don't give each other or friends tickets."
Then they are criminals.
#5 | Posted by danni

They call it Police Discretion.
#6 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

It's called Professional courtesy.
#12 | POSTED BY BOAZ

AKA tyranny.....

This is of course what happens when you leave Law Enforcement entirely up to the untouchable "Cronyism" of POLICEMEN & JUDGES!!!

I'm not sure whether or not this was meant to be satirical but in NJ it is all to real. In NJ, lawyers can serve as a judge in one municipality and as a prosecutor in another. Prosecutors must develop good relationships with police officers because the police are instrumental in making their cases. Judges on the other hand, do not. The mixing of roles increases the likelihood that judges aren't as objective as they should be when it comes to police (mis)conduct.

Liberals are truly childish and hate authority that much to whine about this?

Authority?
There are three problems, and authority ain't one of them.

The first problem is 19 murders since 2004.
The second problem is the perpetrators keep getting away with it.
The third problem is Boaz characterizing murder as "speeding a little bit."

Police officers go through alot protecting our asses from the assholes of society.

Tell that to the families of someone killed by one of the speeding cops.

And you call libruls childish?

800 cops from a dozen agencies drove 90 to 130 mph on highways, many of whom weren't on duty

You are just another righty who believes laws apply to someone else. I can see 75 in a 65, but 130? That is reckless. You have no reaction time at 130. But I guess you wouldn't know that.

The third problem is Boaz characterizing murder as "speeding a little bit."

Boaz has a problem with reality.

hate authority

One day libruls want a nanny state to tell us what to do, and the next they hate authority.

Make up your fucking mind.

I think speeding tickets should be increased to ridiculous levels. When you get caught, you pay.

1,200 dollars a ticket. Real fines along with real enforcement are the only things that will make the laws really effective.

Cops should be no different. If you are a cop and you get busted 3 times in one year for speeding... your job should be gone.

It is not that hard to set the cruise control just below the speed LIMIT on the highway and make sure you don't "accidentally" go faster.

How is it that railing against cops exercising "professional courtesy" is hating authority? That sounds more like hating abuse of authority.

What aspects of the nanny state tell us what to do and what are we being told to do?

"1,200 dollars a ticket. Real fines along with real enforcement are the only things that will make the laws really effective."

Oh great idea, that way working folks can lose their rent money because of a speeding ticket, rich folks won't feel it at all and, of course, the cops will still do as they please. Fines are an unfair method of punishment and cause great harm to the poor and little or no harm to the rich.Here in S. Florida we should start by firing the police chiefs who have allowed the cops to ignore the laws for so long and replace them with people who will insist on a high standard of compliance from officers. Start at the top, that's the only way we will get real reform.

The problem with this type of activity is that the cops who are engaging in this behavior have convinced themselves it isn't wrong for them to do this. They actually don't think it's wrong for them to drive 130 mph even though they know it's wrong for others to do it.

This is the result of applying no consequences for wrong behavior. Folks will start believing it isn't wrong.

#24 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-13 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hmmm... poor folks won't lose their rent money if they don't break the law. Also I mentioned action that should be taken against cops. Read the whole post before you go on your emotional, non-reasoned meltdown.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2012-02-13 10:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

That is true. Look at Danni's post. She is not upset that the cops are doing it in and of itself... but rather she is upset that the wrong people are getting away with it.

I am 110% against such intrusive speed monitoring. The day they start giving tickets based on time inbetween toll booths, is the day big brother .has gotten too big and intrusive

So if I caught one speeding a little bit would I ticket them? No. So Petty.

Problem is Boaz, if they can get away with 10 over, they'll move up to 20 over and eventually kill somebody. Why should some hick cop, who has never risked his life beyond eating too many donuts be above the law? Why not firefighters, EMTs, border guards, bank guards and corrections officer too? Fuck, anybody with a uniform?

Who watches the Watchmen?

Police officers go through alot protecting our asses from the assholes of society.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2012-02-12 11:26 PM

Police officers who kill people while speeding are the assholes of society, and according to this article they are not doing anything to protect us from them.

#24 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2012-02-13 10:35 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

You suddenly care about the poor? That's laughable.

Hey you wanna know how to avoid the theoretical $1,200 speeding ticket? Don't speed. It seems as if your problem is that you think you should be able to speed consequence free, but police officers shouldn't.

Me I think everyone should be ticketed for it. Unless the lights are flashing and a code is called, there's no reason for it.

"Hmmm... poor folks won't lose their rent money if they don't break the law."

On my little residential street the cops steak it out all the time and pull people over for going 28 or 29 mph.

"She is not upset that the cops are doing it in and of itself... but rather she is upset that the wrong people are getting away with it."

Bull shit, I applaud when the police pull over a real speeder but that doesn't give these thugs the right to race around the way they do.

This isn't a right/left or Republican Democrat thing, everyone around here has seen them enough times to know what is going on.

"Hey you wanna know how to avoid the theoretical $1,200 speeding ticket?"

Yeah, I'm sure you've never exceeded the speed limit in your life. Riiight.

This is called "On the job Perks" Kinda like people sitting here bullshitting on company time. Which of course is stealing - which of course is a crime.

$1,200 speeding tickets are a stupid idea.

if you think cops, politicians, etc...were abusing the privilege before, just wait until tickets cost that much.

no, danni is right....the police just need to have better leadership that polices themselves better. They have just gotten used to the idea that it isn't wrong.

new leadership, if pressed, will do that.

JPW,

I apologize yeah the idiot who ended up having to mooch rides is not in my circle of friends anymore. Maybe he grew up in the last 5 years or so maybe not but I haven't seen him so I wouldn't know.

The cop is still a friend of mine though and yeah he gives me the courtesy of not ticketing me for a car that is not registered. Of course he rarely pulls someone over for registration anyway unless they are acting dodgy to start with.

Yeah, I'm sure you've never exceeded the speed limit in your life. Riiight.

#34 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2012-02-13 12:15 PM | REPLY | FLAG

No, I haven't. Not even as a teenager. Driving a car is a responsibility, those things are deadlier than guns and have the potential for racking up fatalities very rapidly. Behave like an adult in charge of a dangerous hunk of metal, rather than a child playing with a big wheel. Since you're a grandmother as you've claimed, maybe it's time for you to grow up and think of someone besides yourself?

This does lead new insight as to why people like Danni piss themselves in fear at the thought of legal gun ownership. After all, if they can't behave responsibly with a dangerous piece of equipment, everyone else must be just as poorly behaved as them, right?

"This does lead new insight as to why people like Danni piss themselves in fear at the thought of legal gun ownership."

I'm not against gun ownership, I've posted that I've considered buying one myself several times here.

"No, I haven't. Not even as a teenager."

Liar. You've never gone one single mph about the speed limit? Bull shit. I doubt I'll ever believe a single word you post from now on.

Hey you wanna know how to avoid the theoretical $1,200 speeding ticket? Don't speed. It seems as if your problem is that you think you should be able to speed consequence free, but police officers shouldn't.

#32 | Posted by soheifox at 2012-02-13 11:42 AM

Posted in a thread about police officers speeding (and killing) consequence free.

Liar. You've never gone one single mph about the speed limit? Bull shit. I doubt I'll ever believe a single word you post from now on.

#40 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-13 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

1 mile over the speed limit by accident is not usually ticketed as there is a 5 mile allowance for the sake of tire speed difference.

Unfortunately people seem to think that 5 mile allowance is just simple for any reason and instead of the 55 mph speed limit, they think it is 60, so they go 60 and wonder why they got a ticket in the 5 mph buffer zone...

They got the ticket in that 5 mph buffer zone because their tire speed is a little faster and thus they were not going 60 mph rather 63 mph.

As I said, the cops need to be held accountable too. They should face the same fines and if they get pulled over 3 times in a year as civilians they lose their jobs. If they are shown to be breaking the speed limit unnecessarily ON the job... instant loss of a job.

I think if we are going to have laws, they need to be enforced on every occasion. $1,200 per infraction sure would dissuade me from breaking the law if I were dumb enough to intentionally go over the speed limit in the first place.

I doubt I'll ever believe a single word you post from now on.

#40 | Posted by danni

Come now Danni...you actually EVER believed anything that nut said?

Looks like it is time to cut benefits and salaries of these reckless public servants who are abusing their positions. They are obviously a drag on society.

In Finland speeding tickets are a portion of your income. news.bbc.co.uk

Jussi Salonoja, the 27-year-old heir to a family-owned sausage empire, was given the £116,000 ticket after being caught driving 80km/h in a 40km/h zone.
Can you imagine the outrage from the 1% and their right-wing mouthpieces in the 99% if we had that here?

"Looks like it is time to cut benefits and salaries of these reckless public servants who are abusing their positions. They are obviously a drag on society."

Yep, it is the spending after all, let's start cutting by cutting the police salaries, benefits, retirements, etc.

BTW Here's today's episode in the Sun-Sentinel series:

"21 people killed or maimed by speeding cops in Florida since 2004"

www.sun-sentinel.com

"In Finland speeding tickets are a portion of your income."

That's a great idea!

'800 Florida Cops Caught Speeding' - Florida food gives you diarrhea!!! When you gotta go ya gotta go!!!!

Liar. You've never gone one single mph about the speed limit? Bull shit. I doubt I'll ever believe a single word you post from now on.

#40 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2012-02-13 12:30 PM | REPLY | FLAG

One MPH is not "speeding" 5 MPH is.

Thanks for proving my point. You believe that since you are incapable of operating dangerous equipment responsibly, everyone else is also.

I think if we are going to have laws, they need to be enforced on every occasion. $1,200 per infraction sure would dissuade me from breaking the law if I were dumb enough to intentionally go over the speed limit in the first place.

#42 | POSTED BY EXPSREDEMPTION AT 2012-02-13 01:11 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I can't see any downside to a $1,200 fine for speeding. It will never effect me or anyone else who operates a vehicle like a responsible adult, and it might just encourage folks like Danni and Donnerboy to act like adults. Sure, it would be greed that would drive them to do this but who cares? It doesn;t matter WH^Y someone does good, so long as they actually do good.

mmm laptop

The fact is too many people; INCLUDING OFFICERS, think the law should only apply when it's not inconvenient to them. If you let another officer go and it can be proven, you should receive a demerit for it. Police Officers are neither above nor below the law, and such behavior is awful. I really don't have a problem with someone driving a police cruiser, on or off duty, being ticketed if they arrive at toll booths in times which indicate they were exceeding the speed limit by 10+ MPH unless there's some sort of bonafide emergency.

The difference between me and people like Donnerboy is my morals and ethics aren't malleable. They don't change just because I "like" the person committing the crime. My feelings have nothing to do with it. You bet I'd ticket my own mother for speeding. If she didn't want her insurance to go up there's a simple solution: don't speed. Am I an asshole? You bet. Am I wrong? It happens, and I try to learn when I am. But when I look in the mirror, I don't see a weasel in the mirror.

And there is nothing wrong with enforcing the law equally across the board without genuine mitigating circumstances. Nothing.

The fact is too many people; INCLUDING OFFICERS, think the law should only apply when it's not inconvenient to them.

#51 | Posted by soheifox at 2012-02-13 09:49 PM

The he only ones actually getting away with it are the police officers.

The he only ones actually getting away with it are the police officers.

#52 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2012-02-13 10:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Really?

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