Oops, I didn't know there was a Congress till I got to the White House."

4 more years to complete my Marxist-Socialist 5 year plan.

"My Czars and I have not yet totally decimated the economy." - B.Obama

"We've created 3.7 million jobs in the last 23 months," Obama responded.

[citation needed]

Dear President Obama,

I agree, mainly because your opponents together have the IQ of a grapefruit.

[citation needed]

#3 | POSTED BY JOE

"In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than 3 million jobs. Last year, they created the most jobs since 2005." -- President Obama

Obama is correct on the numbers. By mentioning his policies, he's making a modest linkage that they deserve credit for the improvement when economists say they are just one factor. On balance, we rate the claim Mostly True.

There will be widespread chimping-out if & when Obama loses.

Question:
What kind of person cries when a member of their race/ethnicity is elected president?

I think Obama still has to prove he deserves a second term. There's a long way to go in this campaign.

What kind of person cries when a member of their race/ethnicity is elected president?
#8 | POSTED BY DEAN_BUVIA

Well, right now we only have a small sample to investigate such a research question. There have only been 2 races of people elected to the presidency - white and black. It's difficult to investigate the perspectives and opinions of a white person who cried when a white person was elected president, but not so difficult to find out the perspectives and opinions of a black person who cried when Obama was elected president.

Until a Latino(a) or someone of Asian decent is elected president, it still will be difficult to compare and contrast perspectives across races.

I know - you didn't want to hear any of that. It's really none of your concern. You don't even realize that you just offered a legitimate political science and sociological research question.

What kind of person cries when a member of their race/ethnicity is elected president?
#8 | POSTED BY DEAN_BUVIA

Well, right now we only have a small sample to investigate such a research question. There have only been 2 races of people elected to the presidency - white and black. It's difficult to investigate the perspectives and opinions of a white person who cried when a white person was elected president, but not so difficult to find out the perspectives and opinions of a black person who cried when Obama was elected president.

Until a Latino(a) or someone of Asian decent is elected president, it still will be difficult to compare and contrast perspectives across races.

I know - you didn't want to hear any of that. It's really none of your concern. You don't even realize that you just offered a legitimate political science and sociological research question.

What kind of person cries when a member of their race/ethnicity is elected president?

pretty much every race/ethnicity Dean.

I think Obama still has to prove he deserves a second term.

Worst case RCADE-the GOP have pretty much accomplished proving THEY don't have anybody who deserves to be elected. Three of their four candidates should be an embarrassment to them and the other, a stuffed shirt, pretending to care.

"I Deserve a Second Term"

Forgetting it is Obama, the statement on its own smacks of a level of arrogance I find particularly unappealing in a leader.

Obama deserves a second chance with the economy in the same way that Charlie Manson deserves a second chance with Sharon Tate.

Obama deserves a kick in the butt right out the WH front door.

"My Czars and I have not yet totally decimated the economy." - B.Obama

#2 | Posted by JROD at 2012-02-06 06:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

What is with you clowns continually using the word 'Czar' as if it was something President Obama came up with?

#13 | POSTED BY PANEOCON

I hope you feel the same about Gingrich:

If Obama was the CEO of a company, he'd be fired.
If Obama was a football coach, he'd be fired.
As POTUS, he should be fired.

Forgetting it is Obama, the statement on its own smacks of a level of arrogance I find particularly unappealing in a leader.

#13 | Posted by paneocon at 2012-02-06 07:24 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Obama deserves a second chance with the economy in the same way that Charlie Manson deserves a second chance with Sharon Tate.

#14 | Posted by Dirk at 2012-02-06 07:24 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Obama deserves a kick in the butt right out the WH front door.

#15 | Posted by MURPHY at 2012

Well, my Three Stooges, see if you can nominate someone with character and ability beyond that of an average circus dog at your convention, and perhaps you'll get your wish.

Up to this point that doesn't look like that will happen.

I deserve a second term

Willard. Bark, bark. Newt. Arf, arf.

"If Obama was the CEO of a company, he'd be fired."

He took over a bankrupt company and is slowly turning it into a successful company, you'd have to be stupid to fire him now. YOu know it, you just can't admit it. We'll respect you more when you can.

The question was bullshit anyway from a bullshit reporter.

The question should have been have you "earned" a second term.

Unfortunately "deserves" is the way this reporter and many of Obamas constituents think now days. Only a piece of self-serving trash like Obama would go along with such a statement while acting as POTUS.

I think Obama still has to prove he deserves a second term. There's a long way to go in this campaign.

#9 | Posted by rcade

He is not running against his opponents (who as Sycopants so aptly says are a bunch of grapefruits) he is running against his own record. If unemployment reaches 8% or even just keeps inching lower he looks like a shoe-in to me.

He took over a bankrupt company and is slowly turning it into a successful company, you'd have to be stupid to fire him now. YOu know it, you just can't admit it. We'll respect you more when you can.

#22 | POSTED BY DANNI

He took a struggling company and ran it into the ground. He should and will be fired. Pink slip delivered November 6th.

Unfortunately "deserves" is the way this reporter and many of Obamas constituents think now days. Only a piece of self-serving trash like Obama would go along with such a statement while acting as POTUS.

#23 | Posted by Dirk at

I think Obama's grown into the job.

And I'd rather vote for the man who thought it was important to preserve a major American industry than the yahoo who is still yapping about how it would have been better to have an extra 1.1 Million unemployed Americans.

I think Obama's grown into the job.
And I'd rather vote for the man who thought it was important to preserve a major American industry than the yahoo who is still yapping about how it would have been better to have an extra 1.1 Million unemployed Americans.

#26 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2012-02-06 07:45 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

GM is on life support. If you don't think so tommorow you can go purchase some of their stock. Anything else is just Political
posturing.

Rcade cited:

Romney is referring here to the so-called “U6” measure. It is not, strictly speaking, a measure of unemployment. It’s a measure that groups the unemployed, the involuntarily part-time and the no-longer-looking together into one index. It’s the broadest measure of labor-market misery we have. And it also means that, technically, Romney is wrong: You have to take into account part-time workers who would like to be full-time before you get above 15 percent. But he’s right to say that there's more economic pain than the basic unemployment rate shows.

You libs can hide your heads in the sand, if it makes you happy. It doesn't matter anyway. This depression has a long way down to go.

"He took a struggling company and ran it into the ground."

Struggling my ass, it was a corpse. He may have brought the dead back to life. I'm not saying he raised the dead but......we were losing millions of jobs and the stock market was crashing and the home equities were evaporating. He has done better than anyone had a right to expect.

He has done better than anyone had a right to expect.

#29 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2012-02-06 07:54 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

At the end of the day know this...Loyal servants, are still servants! ;)

You libs can hide your heads in the sand, if it makes you happy. It doesn't matter anyway. This depression has a long way down to go.

#28 | Posted by Ray at 2012

Quack, quack, quack.

GM is on life support.

#27 | Posted by Dirk

But far from dead, DIRK. Arguing that dead is better is a losing theme.

"I deserve." Is that the same as "I'm entitled"?

I hope you feel the same about Gingrich:
#17 | Posted by rstybeach11

I have my concerns.

Obama deserves a collective foot up his incompetent ass. Just as soon as Boyd and Zed vacate that area.

US closes Caterpillar plant in Canada, Peter steals jobs from Paul with plant closure in Montreal

no winnable GOP candidate in 2012 presidential run

Obama pushing Iran into Russia/China's open arms bringing us all closer to doomsday

Ill tell you this much, if Romney gets the GOP nomination there really is no reason why he shouldnt get four more years.

0bama wants a 2nd term as much as I want to have the libido I enjoyed when I was 16 but the odds are neither of us will get their wish

#27 | Posted by Dirk
But far from dead, DIRK. Arguing that dead is better is a losing theme.
#32 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2012-02-06 08:04 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Dead is better when a business model no longer can support itself. Crony Capitalism is theft from the American People at the hands of government.

Some people actually do keep close track of BLS statistics.

#35 | Posted by cookfish

FF thanks

#34 | POSTED BY PANEOCON

Concerns that he's arrogant? Wouldn't cheating on your spouse while she was fighting cancer be enough proof positive? Or maybe asking your wife to have an "open relationship" with the same woman you were cheating on her with? Or maybe even condemning and seeking impeachment on the President for sexual impropriety while simultaneously having your own affair?

That's not enough, though, huh? Indicating that there will be a moon base by the end of your second term might be enough to give you concern?

Ease back....just bustin' your balls a little =P

how it would have been better to have an extra 1.1 Million unemployed Americans.

#26 | POSTED BY ZED

Manure--Obama stole money from bondholders--flat out.

We have a legal court system that deals with BK--organized and legal.

Obama turned the company over to his union friends with our taxpayer money. Money we will never see again.

Would there have been lost jobs? Probably--but the company would have re-organized and survived just fine--without taking taxpayer money--and without stealing money from the bondholders, or closing down dealerships.

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11

When did marital fidelity become important to liberals? I didn't get that email.

As for hypocrisy very few politicians of any party would pass that test.

Unfortunately, it is likely that Obama just might be voted in as 'king' once more by an unwitting and blind population. Unwitting and blind because God gives to nations the leaders they deserve. A nation that has been murdering the innocent and defenseless for how many years and is arguing the very notion that those that find it absolutely repugnant should be forced to support with their labor, is a nation that is blind indeed. It doesn't matter which one of the proposed candidates is brought to power when the nation itself is the one being judged. The prophecies that God has declared for how many years is being fulfilled before our very eyes. Eyes that cannot or refuse to see. The one world government is coming whether you want to believe it or not. Satan himself will be the one that takes control. He is called the 12th Imam by the Muslims, he will be thought to be the first coming of the Messiah by the Jews and he'll be called King (large K)(Obama little k or whoever becomes his replacement) by all the rest of the world. The world has already been divided into the ten regions that will have leaders referred to as 'kings without kingdoms' including Canada, US and Mexico as region 1. Time is running out rapidly. It’s coming whether you believe or want it to come regardless of who is voted in. Jesus is the only escape from what is coming.

#45 | POSTED BY PANEOCON

That's not what you were insinuating. The basis of your original post was arrogance. Whether one supports fidelity in a relationship or not has nothing to do with the level of arrogance one would necessitate to mimic such behavior as that of Newt Gingrich.

And I am not a liberal.

#29 which means home equities have risen? Even you don't believe that

And I am not a liberal.
#47 | Posted by rstybeach11

Sorry that was way off base on my part. I'd rather be called Satan's evil brother that called a liberal.

Fewer people are working now than 23 months ago. I wonder. Does he really believe the things he says? Or is he lying on purpose?

Because it's possible he doesn't really know that his numbers are BS.

In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than 3 million jobs

Which is different from "we"[Obama] creating 3.7M jobs. Anyone who thinks he wasn't trying to take credit for the job creation is a retard.

"Fewer people are working now than 23 months ago."

230,000 baby boomers have retired since then.

And another 10,000 will, on average, every month for the next 17 years.

The Congressional Budget Act requires the president to submit a budget to Congress by Feb. 1 every year. The Senate Budget Committee is to report a budget resolution to the full Senate by April 1. Why is it only when the black guy and a Democrat Senate get in charge of things that can't we suddenly can't get this right?

every year

Hands down Obama should get his second term. The republicans havent put forth a valid (sane) alternative.

Also, the analogy of Obama breathing life into a dead horse (our economy) is apt.

McCain would of made it worse. Romney, Newt and Santorum will murder it.

Obama at least is (is) trying.

You righties should quit obsessing on Obama's second term and start trying to figure out who'll be his replacement when he leaves the WH in 2017. Maybe by then you can come up with a GOP candidate that isn't a national disgrace. I doubt it, but you can try.

The GOP Big Lie for this election is that the economy is worse than when Obama took office, and that is because of his policies.

The only problem is that this particular Big Lie is demonstrably false, and Indie voters don't appreciate being lied to as much as GOP voters do.

#51 | POSTED BY JOE

So you're refusing to give Obama any credit on the issue?

#59

Don't hold your breath dude.

So you're refusing to give Obama any credit on the issue?
#59 | Posted by rstybeach11

Me, me, me (hand in air). Obama did a great job of pulling the wool over all you libs eyes and a even better job of fucking up the economy for decades to come. No president has spent money the way Obama has so you see his is a success, just not at anything that is good for America.

Crony Capitalism is theft from the American People at the hands of government.

#39 | Posted by Dirk at 2012-02-06 08:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Won't be voting this year.

Would there have been lost jobs? Probably--but the company would have re-organized and survived just fine--without taking taxpayer money--and without stealing money from the bondholders, or closing down dealerships.

#44 | Posted by MURPHY : Just like AMC and Studebaker!

Dear President Obama,

I agree, mainly because your opponents together have the IQ of a grapefruit.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant

Dear Mr. Sycophant;

On behalf of our growers, we wish to inform you that we feel your comment was an insult to the IQ of grapefruit.

Sincerely;

American Grapefruit Growers.

No president has spent money the way Obama has so you see his is a success,

so Bush's borrowed trillion pissed away in Iraq was a great move? If Republicans want to trash Obama on his spending, they better be able to show where ANY Republican since Ike has done better. They might want to get a few grapefruit to help them out.

#63 | Posted by northgape3

Lol, you two fucking retards are 30 watts shy of a 40 watt bulb, shut up and sit down.

Did any body tell him he has no part in that decision.

Nor is it up to him to measure his worthiness to be President.

These few things might get even the Libtarts to understand that this guy thinks he a king.

I suggest that you Obama lovers go back in history a very few years and read some of the speeches of Dictators that control countries that use to be democracies.

Start with Obama's buddy Hugo Chavez of Venezuela.
What you don't think it could happen here...why ?
It happened there.
Matter of fact almost inexactly the same thing happen there that is happening here.

Same story Class war fare, the I'm entitled crowed voted him in now they can't get rid of him and his insane policies that are driving Venezuela in to the ground by borrowing against the FUTURE oil wealth of the country.
A small slip in the oil price and Venezuela goes under.

Listen to Chavez's speeches the guys nuts, think not listen yourself.

Obama has got to go or your country will.

.....NOPE IN NOVEMBER.....

These few things might get even the Libtarts to understand that this guy thinks he a king.

I suggest that you Obama lovers go back in history a very few years and read some of the speeches of Dictators that control countries that use to be democracies.
#66 | Posted by MENSAKOOK

that should be evident even after only a couple hours here on DR

I signed away your civil rights and legalizied your indefinite and secret detention by the military if you get to far outa line with NDAA, after that I will sign SOPA which alow the government to look through all your electronic transactions, and web browsing habits to determine movies, music and TV your watching are legal and approved, so yes, I deserve to be re-elected.

The fact that the entire Democrat Party did not REVOLT against OBama and immediately field a new Canidate to run against Obama after he signed NDAA, to me, tears there last remaining shred of dignity form the party. Congratz! Your now as vile of the Republicans you claim to loathe. This is how I lost all faith in the Republican party; when Bush signed The Patriot Act with no resistance from the rank and file even though they all knew it was crap.

NDAA is the Patriot Act on fucking Steriods and Obama signed and the Democrats own it. Will you do ANYTHING about it? Will it fire you up? Nope, cause "our" team did it so its GOOD!

He took over a bankrupt company and is slowly turning it into a successful company, you'd have to be stupid to fire him now. YOu know it, you just can't admit it. We'll respect you more when you can.

#22 | POSTED BY DANNI

He took a struggling company and ran it into the ground. He should and will be fired. Pink slip delivered November 6th.

#25 | Posted by justanoversight

The stupid is strong in you dude, you say that as a ceo he should be fired for running the company in the ground, but you revel in the private sector who does just that. History is littered with CEO's who've run their companies in the ground and walked away with millions. It's called a golden parachute.

The disconnect in that is so overwhelmingly absurd that I can actaully see why you're ok with it.

As for someones comment about the arrogance of feeling they deserve a second term, the fact that anyone who even wants a first term pretty much proves they're unfit for the job.

Hey Barry you yourself said if I don't fix this mess in 3 years I don't deserve a second term.

What happened with that little statement?

Please answer, I anxiously await dear ruler

"What happened with that little statement?"

We went from bleeding 750,000 jobs a month to adding 200,000 in the most recent tally.

Would there have been lost jobs? Probably--but the company would have re-organized and survived just fine--without taking taxpayer money--and without stealing money from the bondholders, or closing down dealerships.

#44 | Posted by MURPHY at

Oh, hell. You don't know that at all. Republicans were advising us at the time that jobs like automobile manufacturing "just weren't coming back".

Jeez. You guys were already pulling out guns to put bullets in the back of the heads of over a million workers, ready to watch their jobs march off to China or wherever, and with little more than an "Oh, well".

#73 read Steve jobs on foxxcon, those jobs aren't coming back, as he told bho

Obama: 'I Deserve a Second Term'

It's one thing to believe it; I guess you want him to believe it if he's going to do anything more than waste our time running, but it's another thing to come out and say it because that's what elections are all about, to see if the people believe if you deserve election/re-election.

"73 read Steve jobs on foxxcon, those jobs aren't coming back, as he told bho"

Steve Jobs made billions by convincing himself that it was honorable to outsource jobs and help destroy the economy of his own country. He was a POS and Americans today are rejecting the defeatist attitudes of billionaires who got rich telling Americans that our jobs aren't coming back, we need to tell them then that their products are unwelcome in our country.

"73 read Steve jobs on foxxcon, those jobs aren't coming back, as he told bho"

Steve Jobs made billions by convincing himself that it was honorable to outsource jobs and help destroy the economy of his own country. He was a POS and Americans today are rejecting the defeatist attitudes of billionaires who got rich telling Americans that our jobs aren't coming back, we need to tell them then that their products are unwelcome in our country.

Struggling my ass, it was a corpse. He may have brought the dead back to life. I'm not saying he raised the dead but......we were losing millions of jobs and the stock market was crashing and the home equities were evaporating. He has done better than anyone had a right to expect.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-06 07:54 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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What exactly did Obama do to bring this "corpse" back to life? What policies did he implement to make that happen?

Oh, he flooded the market with money, bailed out big banks and put shifted the burden on to our children's children by borrowing to buy votes for himself. Thanks for the bang up job. It must have been real taxing for him to "do the right thing".

What a piece of bullshit sophistry. Sullivan doesn't want to count the underemployed and long term unemployed, only those collecting unemployment insurance.

You're arguing methodology because the numbers look good and that challenges your worldview that everything's turning to shit.

All that matters on unemployment metrics is that they use the same methodology over time. Arguing about who should be counted as unemployed is less relevant than where the consistently measured numbers are moving over time. They're movin' on up.

Obama's jobs trend since the 2008 crash show an economic recovery and an improved outlook. Even Mitt Romney acknowledged it recently in an interview with Laura Ingraham.

Steve Jobs made billions by convincing himself that it was honorable to outsource jobs and help destroy the economy of his own country. He was a POS and Americans today are rejecting the defeatist attitudes of billionaires who got rich telling Americans that our jobs aren't coming back, we need to tell them then that their products are unwelcome in our country.

#77 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-07 08:57 AM | Reply

Dear Steve Jobs,
Your products are unwelcome in our country
this message sent from my i phone-Danni

Oh, he flooded the market with money, bailed out big banks and put shifted the burden on to our children's children by borrowing to buy votes for himself. Thanks for the bang up job. It must have been real taxing for him to "do the right thing".

#78 | Posted by curisemssl

Exactly right. The only thing he deserves is a 1% kickback from the Chinese on the Federal Discovery Card.

And what of Michelle's cool trips? She deserves some more of those too, IMHO.

You're arguing methodology because the numbers look good and that challenges your worldview that everything's turning to shit.
#79 | Posted by rcade

If you are that delusional to think long term unemployed and underemployed should be ignored as symptomatic of a shrinking job market, there is no point arguing.

All that matters on unemployment metrics is that they use the same methodology over time. Arguing about who should be counted as unemployed is less relevant than where the consistently measured numbers are moving over time. They're movin' on up.

For preventing the US from sliding into a global depression alone Obama deserves a second term.

See also: Getting Bin Laden.

And: Getting rid of DADT.

And: Getting out of Iraq.

The only second terms the GOP shitstains deserve are jail terms.

Be Well.

Getting out of Irag? You still believe that bullshit, Knuckle-head? I'll also bet you climaxed like a 16 year old school girl when he extended the Bush tax cuts.

#84 | Posted by dethspud at 2012-02-07 10:28 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Mortgaged future generations well being so that he could get re-elected. He's a brave, new leader alright. It's almost like he had to make a tought decision there.

The others are horse shit at best.

Who cares, it was one guy that he gave the green light to kill. Another real character tester there.

DADT, I can see how that would be important to someone of your "persuasion".

Yea, those private mercenaries are a much better option. They're so much cheaper and responsible than the military.

I'll also bet you climaxed like a 16 year old school girl when he extended the Bush tax cuts.

Spud bets you creamed your jeans when you heard that the rethugs were holding unemployment insurance benefits hostage so they could get those tax cuts extended.

That's a GOP victory, Wusstart.

Revel in it.

Who cares, it was one guy that he gave the green light to kill. Another real character tester there.

Actually, it was.

Obama put all his credibility and political capital on the line over getting Bin Laden.

He did it in a way that the GOP said they were too afraid to.

Face it, Obama hasn't been perfect but he's done a good job under the circumstances.

The GOP, on the other hand, has not done one positive thing over the last 3 years.

Everything they've done has been at the behest of the 1%.

They deserve to go the way of the dodo as a political party.

Be Well.

#22 He took over a bankrupt company and is slowly turning it into a successful company

Really? I thought the deficit had increased more under Obama than any other Presidents combined. Or do you have another definition of bankrupt? Liberals usually do redefine as needed.

Actually, it was.

Obama put all his credibility and political capital on the line over getting Bin Laden.

He did it in a way that the GOP said they were too afraid to.

Face it, Obama hasn't been perfect but he's done a good job under the circumstances.

The GOP, on the other hand, has not done one positive thing over the last 3 years.

Everything they've done has been at the behest of the 1%.

They deserve to go the way of the dodo as a political party.

Be Well.

#87 | Posted by dethspud at 2012-02-07 11:06 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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How would it require any political capital to kill a known terrorist? What back lash would there have been from anyone? Pakistan. Who gives a rats ass.

Obama pissed away what political capital he had by cramming through Obamacare. Goody for us.

The GOP has done less, yep. They don't control the White House. They also didn't control both houses for two of those three years. What did you expect? How well was Obama budget received, by both sides, by the way?

Actually, it was Obama sucking up to the 1%. He extended those damn tax cuts.

The republicans are the lesser of two evils. I would rather have them then the cradle to grave bullshit of lazy dems. Libertarian is where it's at. You pussies and repub assholes just demonize them too much because they don't fall into your party bullshit.

#79 | Posted by rcade

It is not irrelevant when that "uncounted number" is as large as it is. The discouraged worker is normally a small percentage -- right now it is very significant.

Also add in the new college grads and the number is even greater, these are people out of work ... to brush them off as statistical noise is dishonest at best.

If you are that delusional to think long term unemployed and underemployed should be ignored ...

Not what I said. I said that all that matters when evaluating unemployment metrics is whether (a) the metric is consistently measured over time and (b) what the trend is.

Every time someone wants to dismiss a positive trend in unemployment, they argue that the definition of unemployment is wrong. That's a fine discussion, but it's off the point. Unemployment today can be compared to unemployment defined the same way going back to at least the '70s. And the positive news on unemployment lately is related to that metric getting better.

It is not irrelevant when that "uncounted number" is as large as it is.

Changing the definition of unemployment is a separate issue.

Under the current definition, which goes back to at least the '70s, we've had good news lately.

Not what I said. I said that all that matters when evaluating unemployment metrics is whether (a) the metric is consistently measured over time and (b) what the trend is.
#91 | Posted by rcade

That's about as reliable as trusting a fox to count your chickens. The BLS has been massaging statistics for decades. A true unemployment rate would be upward of 22%, according to shadowstats.com. Believe what you want.

Here's the big picture.
"There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as the final and total catastrophe of the currency involved." -Ludwig von Mises

It is not irrelevant when that "uncounted number" is as large as it is.

Changing the definition of unemployment is a separate issue.

Under the current definition, which goes back to at least the '70s, we've had good news lately.

#92 | Posted by rcade at 2012-02-07 12:01 PM | Reply |

ill wait for the latest revision,how many months in a row do you dems circle jerk over the latest numbers only to have them revised downward a week or two later.

ill wait for the latest revision,how many months in a row do you dems circle jerk over the latest numbers only to have them revised downward a week or two later.

The last revision went up, not down.

Believe what you want.

#93 | Posted by Ray at 2012-02-07 12:25

Why not. You do.

It's the most anemic recovery since the GD. He deserves a boot in the ass.

"It's the most anemic recovery since the GD."

It's the worst setback since the GD. But your cognitive dissonance prevents you from placing blame on the guy who purposefully chose deficits over surpluses, doesn't it.

If we could only get back to the Bush deficits we would be making tremendous progress. ;)

Ineptocracy - 2008-2012
in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Hey Barry you yourself said if I don't fix this mess in 3 years I don't deserve a second term.

What happened with that little statement?

Please answer, I anxiously await dear ruler

#71 | Posted by observer22 at 2012-02-07 03:12 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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"What happened with that little statement?"

We went from bleeding 750,000 jobs a month to adding 200,000 in the most recent tally.

#72 | Posted by Danforth

Once more in to the Fray, there Danforth.

The economy DID NOT ADD 200,000 more jobs.

It just lost 200,000 less jobs than it did the year before at this time.

But being the Obama Zombie you are you will repeat the same B.S. over and over because you know the Democrats base for the most part just react (Are stupid) rather than research.

And of course the millions and millions of people that are still out of work... well are still out of work.

Here is a perfect example of the Govt. fancy foot work.

The below link is for the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Would you like a brief synopsis ?
OK here it is:
You really have to hold your breath and dive deep in to this cesspool to find the truth.

Behold, the DR Random Generating Post-It Program at work!

The economy DID NOT ADD 200,000 more jobs.
It just lost 200,000 less jobs than it did the year before at this time.

Oh Kooky, yer such a tard.

Here is my concern:

Obama knew that for the first 4 years, he had to maintain a moderate tone. If he went batshit radical from the get-go, he wouldn't be re-elected. Even so, his moderate tone resulted in Obamacare and through-the-roof spending. If he gets reelected, he won't be handcuffed by a desire to remain electable. Straight to batshit crazy radically leftist, which I believe he is, down in the dark place he hasn't talked about.

104 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2012-02-08 09:00 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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I too am worried about this.

"It turns out that our founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like sometimes."

Yeah. It's called checks and balances.

"If he gets reelected, he won't be handcuffed by a desire to remain electable."

As I recall, the exact same argument was made about Bill Clinton. We have no more reason to think Obama is a radical than that the Republicans running are radicals, which some of them definitely are while the other one pretends to be.

"The economy DID NOT ADD 200,000 more jobs."

"If he gets reelected, he won't be handcuffed by a desire to remain electable."

Even if I took your premise as a given, which I don't, how would the President perform all this liberal hocus pocus without a legislature fully on board with his agenda? Short answer is he wouldn't. You are either smart enough to know that already and are posting it anyway to persuade others who won't think too deeply about it because it conforms to what they already believe, or you really believe it and then you have my pity. I'd love to believe that half of what you fear of Obama were true. I want to believe, but the limb you are way out on is not strong enough to support us both.

#107 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-08 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Except Obama has been quoted saying he wants to "transform" America and "redistribute wealth".

Washington has given Israel a gift from hard-pressed american taxpayers of an expensive missile defense system, while millions of unassisted americans have lost their homes. No one expects Iran to attack Israel, except in retaliation for an Israeli attack on Iran. The purpose of the missile defense system is to protect Israel from an Iranian response to Israeli aggression against Iran. 44 US military bases surround Iran.

In addition to massive military preparations, the propaganda war against Iran that has been ongoing since 1979 when Washington's puppet, the Shah, was overthrown by the Iranian revolution. Iran is surrounded, but Washington and Israeli pretend Iran is a threatening aggressor nation. The real aggressors are Washington and Tel Aviv which threaten Iran constantly with military attack. What really distinquishes Iran from other Middle Eastern States is it is not a puppet of the US.

Washington's top military officials have suggested that an Israeli attack on Iran is a done deal. Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, informed the Israeli government that the US would not join Israel's aggression against Iran unless Washington had given prior approval.

Porter interprets Dempsey's warning as a move by Obama to deter an attack that would drag Washington into a regional conflagration with Iran. Another way to read Dempsey's warning is that Obama wants to hold off on attacking Iran unless polls show him losing the election. The electorate does not normally turn out a president who is at war. Watching these events is like replaying "I Claudius", a BBC production which brings to light the most despicable behavior of powerful people.

Obama is in lockstep with Israel even though Obama told NBC that "we don't see any evidence that they [Iran] have those intentions [attacks on the US] or capabilities." By being in lockstep with Israel and simultaneously calling for a "diplomatic solution," Obama appeases both the Israel Lobby and Democratic peace groups, thus upping his vote.

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"He took a struggling company and ran it into the ground.
#25 | Posted by justanoversight"

How many jobs were lost in Obama's first six months (when we were still under Bush's policies)?

How many jobs were lost during Obama's presidency after the first six months?

Ran it into the ground my ass.

#112 | Posted by mOntecOre

So, you are saying that we are in a full recovery? Or that unemployment numbers have not been cherry picked to show improvement when there is none?

Alert all the unemployed and tell them they have jobs now, but they just can't find them because they aren't looking in the Green industry.

Spring is a prime time for attacking Iran, because there is a good chance that Russia will be in election turmoil in March. The Russian opposition to Putin is financed by Washington. Whether Putin wins or there is an indecisive result and a run-off election, Washington's money will put tens of thousands of Russians into the streets, just as they created the "Green Revolution" in Iran.

The problem for Obama is that this spring is too early to tell whether his re-election is threatened by a Republican candidate. Going to war prematurely, especially if the result is a stiff rise in oil prices, is not an aid to re-election.

There is an infinite supply of foreign leaders who prefer Washington's money and favor to loyalty to their own countries. As Karl Marx said, money turns everything into a commodity. All other values are defeated: honor, integrity, truth, justice, loyalty, even blood kin. Nothing remains but filth. Money turned UK prime minister Tony Blair into a political commodity.

Romans co-opted monarchs with direct payments of coins and material goods. Acceptance of these subsidies signified that an ally deferred to imperial authority, and the Romans interpreted any defiance of their will as an overt revolt.

This is the way Washington rules, which is why there is no "Egyptian Spring," but a military dictatorship to replace Mubarak, and why European puppet states are fighting Washington's wars of hegemony in the Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia.

Washington's National Endowment for Democracy funds non-governmental organizations (NGOs) that interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. It is through the operations of NGOs that Washington added the former Soviet Republic of Georgia to Washington's empire, along with the Baltic States, and Eastern European countries.

As Rome debased its silver denarius into lead, Rome's power to purchase compliance faded away. If "Helicopter Ben" Bernanke inflates away the purchasing power of the dollar, Washington's power will melt away also.

excerpted from PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

"So, you are saying that we are in a full recovery?
#113 | Posted by Marty"

I simply asked two questions. Sack up and answer them, if you have the sack.

The economy DID NOT ADD 200,000 more jobs.
It just lost 200,000 less jobs than it did the year before at this time.

Oh Kooky, yer such a tard.

[jobschart]

That is why Obama will win re-election.

Well, that and his record with Bin Laden, DADT, Iraq, Libya, handling the BP spill, and actually doing stuff that benefit Americans rather than faceless multinationals.

Now dethspud don't get the finger paint on your clothes or in you mouth.
You'll make Moma Danni mad.

Nice jobs chart, you don't mind connecting it to something, anything do you.
It looks like you made it.

The link I provided is from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

As for the rest of your post I think he should run on those things.
Lets see how it goes with the rest of the country.

.....NOPE IN NOVEMBER......

Everything being reported about the economy is a lie and has been since Clinton changed the definition of everything. Jus one trick and there are plenty, if the price of porterhouse doubles the Government assumes you switch your eating habit to round steak to caclulate the inflation rate.