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Monday, February 06, 2012

Bill Moyers: Saul Alinsky is not around to defend himself, but that hasn't kept Newt Gingrich from using his name to whip up the froth and frenzy of his followers, whose ignorance of the man is no deterrence to their eagerness, at Gingrich's behest, to tar and feather him posthumously. In his speeches, Gingrich pounds away at variations on the theme like the piano player in a cheap Western saloon. He declares, "The centerpiece of this campaign, I believe, is American exceptionalism versus the radicalism of Saul Alinsky," or, "I believe in the Constitution, I believe in the Federalist Papers. Obama believes in Saul Alinsky and secular European socialist bureaucracy."

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Moyers Concludes:

Alinsky died, suddenly, in1972. At the time, he was planning to mount a campaign to organize white, middle class Americans into a national movement for progressive change, a movement he vowed to take into the halls of Congress and -- his words -- "the boardrooms of the mega-corporations."

Maybe that's why Newt Gingrich has been slandering Alinsky's name. Maybe he's afraid, afraid that the very white folks he's been rousing to frenzy will discover who Saul Alinsky was -- a patriot in a long line of patriots, who scorned the malignant narcissism of duplicitous politicians and taught everyday Americans to think for themselves and fight together for a better life. That's the American way, and any good historian would know it.

Glad you posted this, Darth.

There's a related piece at www.populist.com on "Saul Alinksky - The 'Radical' Republicans Love to Hate."

Alinsky in a 1972 interview with Playboy magazine, a few months before his death, talked of the need to organize middle-class America, which comprised about three-fourths of the US population, either through actual earning power or through values identification. Then-President Richard Nixon and Vice President Spiro Agnew were trying to galvanize them into the conservative movement. At that time, the middle class was not inherently conservative, he said, "But they can and will go either of two ways in the coming years - to a native American fascism or toward radical social change."

In that piece Alinsky's famous "Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals (1971) is summarized thusly:

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.

Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people. The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. "You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

Rule 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It's hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. "If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic."

Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage."

Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself.

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, "Okay, what would you do?"

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don't try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2012-02-06 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag: Has Alinsky tattoo on his butt

#3 | POSTED BY PANEOCON AT 2012-02-06 01:53 PM | REPLY | FLAG: Has "Doc Sarvis" brand on his

The knuckledraggers aren't interested in facts; especially facts that require more than 30 seconds to read.

I live how Newt 'Moon Base' Gingrich attacks the President trying to tie him to a person who died when the President was ten years old.

"Bill Moyers: Saul Alinsky is not around to defend himself, but that hasn't kept" blah blah blah.

LMAO! Ronald Reagan et al. Republicans are exempt, eh Bill.

The knuckledraggers aren't interested in facts; especially facts that require more than 30 seconds to read.

#5 | Posted by RastaCyborg at 2012

go to hell punk....

everyday the democrat media complex uses this fucks ideas. the real tragedy is the obamadupes who are little more than robots and dont even know it.

everyday the democrat media complex uses this fucks ideas. the real tragedy is the obamadupes who are little more than robots and dont even know it.

#8 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

...the Democrat Media Complex...? Conservatives control the radio waves. Fox News has the top ten most watched programs. So what Democrat Media Complex are you referring to?

LMAO! Ronald Reagan et al. Republicans are exempt, eh Bill.

#7 | POSTED BY KBM

Might be a small difference when Republicans trot out the Reagan corpse to jerk off over its conservative bones.

The folks who find such fault with Alinsky -- I have in mind specifically the likes of PainedCon, KaBowelMovement and Aflakabibblebabble -- have virtually no idea who Alinsky was, what he tried to do, and what he wrote.

I have an experiment in mind: In future, for "Alinksky" I think I'll insert Lionel Boyd Johnson, Emmanuel Goldstein, or Fnord.

The first rules are largely organizational, but the real meat, just as in the Koran, comes at the end:

Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself.

Because using terror is not beneath a radical.

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, "Okay, what would you do?"

Because to a radical, tearing something down is much easier...and radicals are lazy [see Rules 6&7] . Building something takes thought, effort and dedication. Makes me realize why so many people on the DR just quit answering when I ask a question like that.....

Change means movement. Movement means friction. Only in the frictionless vacuum of a nonexistent abstract world can movement or change occur without that abrasive friction of conflict.
Saul Alinsky

History is a relay of revolutions.
Saul Alinsky

Democratic media
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Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself.

If your opponents know you are capable of "keeping the pressure on" as per rule 8 you get to a point where the threat becomes more useful than the thing itself. Kinda like the way Republicans in the Senate have threatened to filibuster so often that they rarely have to actually filibuster anymore.

The biggest fans of Alinsky's Rule 9 right now are in the US Senate and are all Republican.

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, "Okay, what would you do?"

Translates into... don't just be a whiner if you are gonna criticize use constructive criticism that offers up a constructive alternative.

Good advice.

Be Well.

Every ideology must have its assigned villains, whether they are real or significantly embellished.

"Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don't try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame."

Interesting. This looks quite a bit different when you see the whole thing. And as I've said before, this sort of thing is done by people all over the spectrum.

Whatever. I think I'll just laugh whenever I see someone rant about Alinsky.

Because to a radical, tearing something down is much easier...and radicals are lazy [see Rules 6&7] . Building something takes thought, effort and dedication. Makes me realize why so many people on the DR just quit answering when I ask a question like that.....

#12 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2012-02-06 03:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Exactly. Just watch republicans in action. They offer no solutions. They simply tear down anything the President tries....even if it was something they proposed. Glad we agree.

Yeah there is nothing wrong with Alinsky--except he was a Communist--and wanted that for America.

Yeah there is nothing wrong with Alinsky--except he was a Communist--and wanted that for America.

#20 | Posted by MURPHY

You're lying, Murphy. Typical Republican.

The greatest enemy of individual freedom is the individual himself.- Saul Alinsky

Gimmie a "C"
Gimmie a "O"
Gimmie a "M"
Gimmie a "M"
Gimmie a "U"
Gimmie a "N"
Gimmie a "I"
Gimmie a "S"
Gimmie a "T"

What does that spell???

MISERY!!!

The knuckledraggers aren't interested in facts; especially facts that require more than 30 seconds to read.

#5 | Posted by RastaCyborg at 2012

go to hell punk....

everyday the democrat media complex uses this fucks ideas. the real tragedy is the obamadupes who are little more than robots and dont even know it.

#8 | Posted by afkabl2

...after a long day at work, I find it satisfying when I can just kick back, have a beer and let others prove my points for me!

"But just who was Alinsky, really?"

The left gets so hung up on the 'who'. It simplifies things for them so that they don't have to think about policy. Nobody cares 'who' Alinsky was, not even Gingrich. If you would listen you would see that Gingrich talks about 'what' Alinsky advocated.

So................... If you are a Republican you can mention anyone that is dead? WTF?

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