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Sunday, February 05, 2012

Department of Justice lawyers are trying to expand the U.S. government's legal immunity from exposure to medical malpractice claims brought by the military. The feds want courts to recognize an application of an old doctrine that would bar many plaintiffs from presenting claims at trial. "Congress has consistently refused over the past 60 years to ensure that courthouse doors remain open to military personnel and their families," writes Andrew Cohen for The Atlantic.

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I encourage you all to read the entire article before posting. It's a long one, but pretty fascinating.

So neither side will do a damned thing to fix it because that might give the other side political ammunition to use against them.

Sounds like government working as it usually does.

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"This could be a powerful political issue in the 2012 campaign."

Or not.

I love that line about the judiciary "picking up the pieces" of ineffective legislators. I've come to hold little respect for our judges today, but can appreciate the truth of that statement.

Ironically Obama is now suggesting that medical doctors that follow government guidelines be given immunity against malpractice suits.

Look for more of this under Obamacare. They always pass shield laws for government workers, as they did for the teachers unions and school districts in New York with child abuse liability.

school districts in New York with child abuse liability.
It's just a crying shame they couldn't do the same for the Church.
#6 | Posted by D.A. Blow

" Look, they're volunteers. If they were smart they'd have gone to France and converted dead jews, like me. Or hid out in a bus, like my sons. We're running a deficit and it's immoral to ask me to pay taxes on money I've stashed off-shore to pay for these losers benefits or to get them quality health care."

Mitt the God Rmoney.

"It's just a crying shame they couldn't do the same for the Church"

Show us one post of mine where I've said such a thing, liar.

As a servicemember it really pains me to say it, but the concept of active duty soldiers being able to sue the military is simply dangerous. SM's are entitled to many protections, like workplace safety and decent housing, but being able to sue will definetly create a problem with discipline. I've seen my fair share of nonsense, (and been the recipient myself of questionable medical care, even given the fact that Im a medic) and nothing good will come of the ability of GI's being able to sue. The only thing that will correct problems that people like the German's faced is simply firing poor providers. There does need to be a strong system of vetting the providers and technicians that the military has, and they actually do get rid of bad doctors and medics.

The military provides a great many benefits to servicemembers and their families, from supplemental pay for housing and food, to free recreational facilities and tax-free shopping on base. For that, these people should accept solutions to these problems that dont involve a huge settlement check. My heart goes out to them, but thats just the way it is.

I agree with you AmericanPly. If soldiers want good medical care they should have gone into private business, made lots of money and bought a top notch insurance policy.

No citation necessary.

Careful, Americanply. Doc will accuse you of protecting child abusers!

#11 | Posted by BradfordWinston

Im not making an excuse for poor healthcare. Im saying that soldiers sueing the government is not an acceptable solution. The ability to sue is based on a list of rights that servicemembers do not have when they enlist. The military must have the broad discretion to make decisions based upon force readiness without fear of retaliation from those in the ranks.

That being said, when a doctor or medic screws up, it isnt simply written off as a mistake. While it isnt as simple as being told to clean out your desk and get out, you can still be fired in the military. If someone is incompetent, they can be removed from their position and transferred somewhere else. They can also be forcibly reclassed into another occupation.

Forcing the government to shell out cash to victims isnt going to improve care. For a private practice doctor whose bottom line is his profit margin, the threat of a lawsuit can be effective in ensuring proper care. When you're talking about a military doctor, there is no such incentive, the budget isnt in the picture.

**** US Military = CHEAP Cannon Fodder for CorpoRat America & BIG OIL!!!

I figured when I read the headline that Naval Hospital Jacksonville would be referenced in it. NH Jax has been killing people faster than Egyptian soccer hooligans for years.

www.navytimes.com

I think the US is in serious need of TORT reform, and I have to agree with Ply on this one. That said, the military medical system, which so many of those who are pro-Obamacare cite as an example of successful social medicine, is NOTORIOUS for treating patients like cars on an assembly line. I have often half-joked that regardless of your injury, you will first be given Motrin. In the Navy we called it Vitamin M. If that doesn't work, you'll be referred to physical therapy. If it doesn't involve pain that can be attributed in the least to a sprain, etc.. you'll be given a broad-base antibiotic instead of Motrin. I tore a rotator cuff in 2004. I didn't get an MRI for nearly 2 years! When they did give it to me, they informed me I had in fact torn it...but now it was too late to fix it. Probably a good thing though...at the time, I was in Jacksonville.

"medical malpractice claims brought by the military."

Who wrote this piece of shit?????????????????????? What they realy mean is "medical malpractice claims brought by the military personel against the US government."

If you've ever been to a Navy medical facility, you know it's probably best just to deal with the pain in hopes that it goes away on it's own.

Every patient is treated as if they're there trying to personally scam the Doctor of Corpsman out of something.......well, of course Officers aren't treated bad, but if you're enlisted and complaining about pain, you must be gun-decking (pulling a scam to get out of doing work). Nevermind that you're the one who does all of the actual heavy lifting all day long.

*Doctor OR Corpsman.....not *of*

I've been on both sides, CS, and the care is just a shitty for O's as it is for E's. At least I was aircrew and got to see the flight surgeon, which upped the level of care a bit, although it didn't help my shoulder out any (I was pretty much done with flying at that point, anyway). You're right though: if you're a regular at sick call, your Chief will subconsciously mark you as a slacker, and the nurse that sees you figures you're scamming out of work (which, admit it, a lot of folks are).

You're right though: if you're a regular at sick call, your Chief will subconsciously mark you as a slacker, and the nurse that sees you figures you're scamming out of work (which, admit it, a lot of folks are).

#19 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2012-02-06 02:21 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

I agree. There are definitely people that deserve that label.

I was a Sonar Tech aboard a Destroyer and the Starboard Torpedo Mag was our work center. It shared a passageway with sick bay. Each morning on the way to start the day we would pass by the regulars at sick call.
The problem is, they treat everyone as if they were 'regulars'.

I guess it didn't help that our Senior Chief Corpsman turned out to be a morphine addict who was stealing the ships supply and was busted from Senior Chief all the way down to E-3 before being tossed out.

So neither side will do a damned thing to fix it because that might give the other side political ammunition to use against them.

Sounds like government working as it usually does.

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#2 | Posted by axe

When the Libbies are at fault, you still blame Republicans..

LOL!!

You Libbies are pathetic.

You Libbies are pathetic.

#21 | Posted by Eddie at 2012-02-06 09:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Special Ed, you do realize that many here who identify as republican find you to be a loon, no?

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