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Thursday, February 02, 2012

An Indian woman who died in Illinois' Lake County Jail in January after a 15-day hunger strike was incarcerated for ignoring a jury summons and resisting arrest -- even though she wasn't eligible to serve on a jury as a non-citizen. Lyvita Gomes, 52, was not taken to a hospital until she was in grave condition. "She should not have died the way she died," said the Rev. Daniel Hartnett at her funeral.

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Was she a real Indian?

15 days...sounds like she didn't have much in the tank.

Hmmmm lets see. she chose not to eat... Sounds like suicide to me. Why should the tax payer be forced to pay the medical bills of stupid people.

Nobody is at fault other than HER....

#3 Because the tax payer chose to arrest her for failing to do something that she couldn't legally do anyway?

#4 - she wasn't arrested for not serving on the jury, she was arrested for ignoring a legally issued summons from the state. either show up and explain to the judge that you are ineligible to serve or send in the required response (indicating why you cannot serve). this is obviously a tragedy, but don't blame the state for doing what its supposed to do by miscategorizing and trivializing the arrest.

Well, that ought to shut her up.

I don't mind stealing bread
From the mouths of decadence
But I can't feed on the powerless
When my cup's already overfilled

Yeah
But it's on the table
The fire is cooking
And their farming babies
While the slaves are working

The blood is on the table
And their mouths are choking
But I'm growing hungry
Yeah

I don't mind stealing bread
From the mouths of decadence
But I can't feed on the powerless
When my cup's already overfilled
Oho, ah

But it's on the table
The fire is cooking
And their farming babies
While the slaves are working

And it's on the table
Their mouths are choking
But I'm growing hungry (Growing hungry)
I'm growing hungry (Growing hungry)
I'm growing hungry (Growing hungry)
I'm growing hungry (Growing hungry)....

JTT

So the state screwed up and you are ok with them arresting her for it then ignoring her hunger strike?

I am not blaming the state I doubt Illinois has much experience with hunger strikes but saying she starved herself so it was a suicide is just as silly as saying Illinois is to blame.

It is a horrible tragedy and I think there is enough blame for everyone.

"Well, that ought to shut her up.
#6 | Posted by vernon"

God must be so proud of this one. So Jesus like in his treatment of and compassion for his fellow human beings.

"Well, that ought to shut her up.
#6 | Posted by vernon"

yup! Hows that safety net working?

One more poor sick person removed from the welfare rolls.

Jesus would be proud.

Was she incarcerated in one of the "for profit Wall Street prisons"? Yeah the ones that Wall Street should be serving 40 years in.

The longer she was incarcerated in a for profit prison, the more the fucking greedy profit. The USA was once the beacon of freedom to the world, but it has become the beacon of greed to thieving hucksters who can now buy our government at our expense with their pocket change .

We can either accept this or take back the USA that we once had.

Talk about self-deportation.

#4 | Posted by TaoWarrior
She was in jail for not appearing to court on her imigration status(no visa) . She choose to not eat or drink.
The upper post by Rcade is deceptive in that it makes it look like prison for her jury summons killed her.Now every one cry the blues and say how awful the system is, it,s her own fault.

Jesus would be proud.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-02 06:37 PM |

Not sure for how long knowing you are still a stain on society...

Durbin has promised to make it a law that jails put up signs saying hunger strikes are harmful to your health. That should stop any more of this type of prisoner abuse...

was incarcerated for ignoring a jury summons and resisting arrest -- even though she wasn't eligible to serve on a jury as a non-citizen.

The normal response to that scenario would be to appear at the summons and tell them you aren't a citizen. But, I guess starving yourself to death in jail works too.

Jesus would be proud.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-02 06:37 PM |

Not sure for how long knowing you are still a stain on society...

#14 | Posted by crispee_oc

At least The Noot cares about me.

FTA-As a noncitizen, Gomes wasn't eligible to serve on a jury, but ignoring a jury summons last summer led to a charge of resisting arrest when a deputy showed up at her door, as ordered by a judge, to explain her absence.

As per the thread about the Brits refused entrance to the US,this is my exact thought about deporting aliens that do not conform to our laws.

She should have been put on a plane and sent back to her country.

rwd

It is a horrible tragedy and I think there is enough blame for everyone.

#8 | Posted by TaoWarrior

What blame there numb nuts....she did it to herself.

If she was that unhappy with the State Govt. that she thought killing herself was worth it to make a point than so be it.

If I get a ticket for speeding which I am legally not allowed to do and I kill myself over it is it now the Cops fault because he pulled me over or is it his fault that I killed myself.

I know this is a very hard concept for the Libtarts to understand......
But you are responsible for your own actions, you and only you.

Lets try it this way,

If a Police Officer pulls over a drunk and the drunk says I have 3 kid and will lose my job if you take me in.

So the Cop lets the guy go because he lives right down the street.
But just as hes about to pull in to his driveway your thirteen year old on her bike pulls out in front of him and because hes drunk he can't react in time he runs you child over and turns her in to ground beef at the foot of your driveway.

So in your dumb ass world the cop did the right thing by letting the drunk go because it could have caused the drunk to lose his house and his job, which if did happen you would have been saying the guy lived just a few houses away and the Cop should have let him drive home.

No the right answer is lock up the drunk because he got drunk on his own and chose to drive on his own.
He will be held responsible for his own actions not the 13 year old on the bike.

.....NOPE IN NOVEMBER.

Dude what the hell have you been smoking.

The situations are in no way comparable. Just for starters how is not showing up for Jury duty in any way equivalent to driving drunk? One is a danger to society one is a socially irresponsible. About the only place they are equivalent is that they are both law breakers. I don't know why she felt a hunger strike was necessary, but it is a way to effect social change, and as a protest method has a long history of success.

Oh and once the state locks you up you are a ward of the state therefore the state is responsible for your actions.

Final point calling me a libtard is kind of funny, maybe you should check my posting history before pulling that card out. Respect for life is not a liberal or conservative idea but a human idea. Try it some time.

It's just a really late abortion, a 'womans health decision'. Just like aborting a baby becuase it's Indian.

Thinning the herd, baby.

#22 | Posted by chickenongrill

I know, right! Libtards are all for abortion, until the aborted human was murdered becuase it was going to be black, or Jewish. Hmmm sounds like a Nazi to me, but 0bama is all for it, so who knows, right!

One is a danger to society one is a socially irresponsible.
#20 | Posted by TaoWarrior

Your example is both the same. Driving drunk and resisting arrest is both irresponsible and a danger to society.

Aliens,who technically are guests of this country that cannot conform to our laws should be sent back to their own country.

What is so damn hard to understand this point?

rwd

RWD I am all for sending her back. If we had done that would we have ever even heard her name? Maybe we should thank her I said hunger strikes are a way to effect change maybe the change will be faster deportation.

Aliens,who technically are guests of this country that cannot conform to our laws should be sent back to their own country.

Agreed.

Deportations are up 70% under Obama.

The Obama administration had deported about 1.06 million as of September 12, against 1.57 million in Bush's two full presidential terms.

www.outsidethebeltway.com

Did you know that, RWD?

Or did FOX forget to mention it?

Be Well.

#26 | Posted by dethspud

I am glad you agree with me.

Where did you see any criticism of Obama in my post?

That's right you didn't.

Where did you assume I watch Fox news or form an opinion because of what someone said?

That's right I don't.

Not so sure the same could be said of you judging from the outright lies you post spewing the liberal line,hook and sinker.

rwd

Good, more for everyone else.

God must be so proud of this one. So Jesus like in his treatment of and compassion for his fellow human beings.

#9 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2012-02-02 06:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you actually knew anything about Scripture, you'd know that God has a sense of humor. But you are ignorant of the topic and thus can speak only out of bigotry and ignorance.

Above all other things, God respects our free will. This woman chose to not eat, when food was readily available. God allows all of us to make our own choices, and experience the consequences. The consequence of not eating is often starving.

But still, I love how (in your ignorance and bigotry) assign a point of view to a Christian, and then try to scold me because I don't measure up to your uninformed standard.

Spud gets owned again, and disappears. Does that retard have anything left but strawmen?

Where did you see any acknowledgement of Obama's superior record on deporting illegals in my post?

That's right you didn't.

Fixed That For You.

No charge.

Where did you assume I watch Fox news or form an opinion because of what someone said?

That's right I don't.

Spud's read your posts.

You are a lying sack of shit.

Your posts are mostly bad re-iteration of stale RW talking points.

Whether you get them from FOX or Rush or Glenn or Michelle or Ann or Mike Savage or National Review of Wing Nut Daily or Newsmax or Freep or Breitbart or Drudge is irrelevant.

You herp their derp.

Not so sure the same could be said of you judging from the outright lies you post spewing the liberal line,hook and sinker.

If you wanna try making that argument it kinda helps to have an example handy.

You are really bad at this.

Also, you forgot to answer Spud's question there.

Here, Spud'll repeat it just for you...

Did you know that, RWD?

Use your words.

Spud gets owned again.

[inigo]

Avoiding the question and calling someone a liar without actually making any kind of an argument = "owned"?

Wow.

You must be a reeeeeally sucky lawyer!

^__^

Be Well.

Whether you get them from FOX or Rush or Glenn or Michelle or Ann or Mike Savage or National Review of Wing Nut Daily or Newsmax or Freep or Breitbart or Drudge is irrelevant.

Nice to see you admit that you brought up an irrelevant topic. If only you were so honest about the rest of what you say here.

If you wanna try making that argument it kinda helps to have an example handy.

Sort of like when you told RWD "Your posts are mostly bad re-iteration of stale RW talking points," without providing any examples?

Does that mean you are also "really bad at this?"

Nice to see you admit that you brought up an irrelevant topic.

Wow, yer dumb.

Not just "not bright" dumb but actually pants-on-head retarded.

Using FOX news as an example of RW media somehow defeats the entire argument when RW Don claims to never watch FOX?

Are you drinking?

If you wanna try making that argument it kinda helps to have an example handy.

Sort of like when you told RWD "Your posts are mostly bad re-iteration of stale RW talking points," without providing any examples?

*touche*

There ya go.

You actually scored a point.

Feels good, doesn't it?

One in a row.

Keep it up.

You idiots don't like the 15% tax on investments?

Defending capital gains taxes? Check.

It's a drop in the bucket.

Defending Medicare Part D? Check.

But, actually, for the most part RW Don doesn't really say much of anything upon closer perusal.

Be Well.

Keep it up.

You idiots don't like the 15% tax on investments?

Defending capital gains taxes? Check.

Reread what I wrote shitbag. Obviously you read into it more then I wrote.
For instance, I said if you don't like the 15% tax rate write your congressman. LOL.
And I went on to say if anyone that critisises the tax rate was eligible for the tax tate they would take it themselves. Accusing and critising someone that follows the law is idiotic.

Defending Medicare Part D? Check.

It's a drop in the bucket.

You stated that Part D is a main source of our economic troubles and I said you were full of shit. Part D expense is miniscule compared to our overall spending. But what the hell whatever floats your boat.

But, actually, for the most part RW Don doesn't really say much of anything upon closer perusal.

Because it doesn't conform to your thinking. Like I said if you don't like it write your congressman,but make sure you use your creepy prose when to compose the letter. LOL

Be Well.

#33 | Posted by dethspud at 2012-02-03 01:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

what a fucking disaster.

Oh and once the state locks you up you are a ward of the state therefore the state is responsible for your actions.

Final point calling me a libtard is kind of funny, maybe you should check my posting history before pulling that card out. Respect for life is not a liberal or conservative idea but a human idea. Try it some time.

#20 | Posted by TaoWarrior

Mmmm....applying libtart to you was incorrect....withdrawn.

However, your position on once you are arrested the state is required to take care of is mostly accurate but not completely accurate.

The state must provide you with food, water ,shelter, heat,cooling and some medical care, note I said some.

But if you choose not to drink or eat for what ever reason (Barring mental health issues) the state is not required to force feed you with either food, or some supplement.
You chose of your own free will to do this to yourself, its not the state doing it to you.

No... the state is not required to step in after you have become incapacitated from your choice, because when you became incapacitated you where still doing what ever to yourself because YOU wanted to.

Lastly on Human life, I'll help any one who needs help till they either show that the no longer want my help.
Or are never going to help themselves no matter what I do for them.

.........NOPE IN NOVEMBER....

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