This clown calling Panetta "naive" is pretty hilarious. Romney is purely playing politics, he hopes the TPers and the neocons will take him seriously...clue for Mitt....they may vote for you but they will never take you seriously because you are obviously driven by ambition not by real knowledge or concern about our foreign policy.

"This clown calling Panetta "naive" is pretty hilarious. Romney is purely playing politics, he hopes the TPers and the neocons will take him seriously...clue for Mitt....they may vote for you but they will never take you seriously because you are obviously driven by ambition not by real knowledge or concern about our foreign policy."
#1 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-02 09:36 AM

Early vote for Drudge's Hoof in Mouth Award of 2012....

Fire Leon Panetta immediately. We cannot afford any more crazy people starting wars that are "worth it." Fuck him. Obama needs to do something about this lunatic.
#3 | Posted by danni at 2011-12-20 09:35 AM

"Fire Leon Panetta immediately. We cannot afford any more crazy people starting wars that are "worth it." Fuck him. Obama needs to do something about this lunatic.
#3 | Posted by danni at 2011-12-20 09:35 AM"

OK, I thought he was getting ready to bomb Iran, he wasn't, I was wrong. If he was though I would want him fired immediately, we do not need any more wars.

Romney's a douchebag.

We should have been announcing this a long time ago.

OK, I thought he was getting ready to bomb Iran, he wasn't, I was wrong. If he was though I would want him fired immediately, we do not need any more wars.
#3 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-02 09:51 AM

Misguided?!? Haha

Cause 12 years of war is not enough.

"He announced that. He announced that. So the Taliban hears it, the Pakistanis hear it, the Afghan leaders hear it," said Romney. "Why in the world do you go to the people that you're fighting with and tell them the date you're pulling out your troops? It makes absolutely no sense."

Same stupid rationale Bush used to give for not having a withdrawal strategy from Iraq.

Until he decided it would work after all.

Christ, is Romney actually dumber than bush?

Wow.

Spud to Rawmoney:

Naive is thinking 12 years in Afghanistan isn't long enough.

Be Well.

"You are something else danni. It was after Panetta said Iraq was worth it, and not Iran when you shoved your hoof in your mouth."

I had forgotten. If that is the case then Panetta is out of his mind!
Iraq was certainly not worth it, my guess is he was being PC but it's still an incredibly stupid comment and completely, utterly wrong.

But Crispee, instead of worrying about what I said, what do you think about what Romney said? You know the topic of the thread.

"But Crispee, instead of worrying about what I said, what do you think about what Romney said? You know the topic of the thread."

Instead of worrying about what you said? Do you even know what that was danni? You made up shit in th very first post claiming Romney was calling Panetta naive. Right after opening the thread and pasting the article which clearly said he called the administration naive.

Good find OC, that was a nice laugh.

I think Romney is right- it's really, really strange to be in volatile peace talks with the Taliban, and in the middle of it say "oh yeah we're leaving next year anyway." If we weren't in negotiations, then sure, go ahead and announce a withdrawal date. But considering that we might actually make some progress with these talks, and then the next day give up all bargaining power with Panetta's announcement is pretty foolish on our part.

"But considering that we might actually make some progress with these talks, and then the next day give up all bargaining power with Panetta's announcement is pretty foolish on our part."

From the looks of things he is announcing a withdrawal due to things getting uglier, and not because they think it will have progressed enough to leave. Kind of like surrender before things get worse. Much like in Iraq when he cowardly wanted to leave in Jan 2007. His staple legislation he thought would be the stepping stone to becoming the POTUS. Of course that was ignored by the media after an embarrassing defeat on the Senate floor...

You also have to appreciate the perfect dovetailing of election season and the withdrawal date announcement. I don't know what Obama and Panetta think will be different between today and another year from now, considering the utter lack of progress over the past 11. Seems like the announcement was almost purely for political gain...

---In 2008, the US and Iraqi government signed the U.S. Iraq Status of Forces Agreement which implments that all US forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by 30 June 2009...

"On 27 February 2009, at Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, President Barack Obama announced a deadline for the withdrawal of combat troops from Iraq. According to the president, by 31 August 2010."

"Under this plan, the majority of troops will be withdrawn just a month after the deadline in the signed agreement between former President George W. Bush and Prime Minister of Iraq Nouri al-Maliki where the majority of troops will be withdrawn at one point, and the entirety of troops to be out by 31 December 2011."

Guess this is how Obama can claim he ended the war in Iraq?

"Much like in Iraq when he cowardly wanted to leave in Jan 2007."

If only we had. If only we had never gone in. Now the same wrong headed thinking is expressed about Afghanistan by Romney. Get a clue...we can NEVER WIN in Afghanistan, every troop that dies there dies for NOTHING. Every cent we spend there is wasted.

"Guess this is how Obama can claim he ended the war in Iraq?"

He brought the troops out of Iraq, that's how he can claim to have brought the troops out of Iraq. It's called a fact.

He brought the troops out of Iraq...
#18 | Posted by danni

Yes, he did that according to Bush's plan, but first he tried to keep them there and failed.

You stupid fucks can't even admit your messiah tried keeping us in Iraq when it's an indisputable fact.

"But, but, it doesn't matter that he unsuccessfully tried to keep us there! He's awesome for getting us out according to Bush's time table!"

You dumb mother fuckers don't still wonder why you're laughed at, do you?

"Yes, he did that according to Bush's plan, but first he tried to keep them there and failed." Sure he did. Riiight! You believe anything you're told by right wint talking point writers.

Sure he did. Riiight! You believe anything you're told by right wint talking point writers.

#20 | Posted by danni

You are so incredibly stupid, tha it's scary.

You'd think you (and that retard AllAmericanunity) would have been curious enough to look this up after having it repeatedly shoved up your asses, but no, not you two fucking stooges. You're both content in being punching bags for your stupidity and lockstep allegiance to Hussein.

For fucks sake, look it up and quit being so fucking stupid.

I already know the story, he couldn't get the Iraqis to grant immunity for the troops, like I really don't think he tried real hard considering he wanted the troops out and this gave him cover from his critics for actually pulling them out.But hey, I know it's an opportunity for you to pretend and it makes you feel better about being so completely wrong about Iraq from the very beginning.

I already know the story, he couldn't get the Iraqis to grant immunity for the troops, like I really don't think he tried real hard considering he wanted the troops out and this gave him cover from his critics for actually pulling them out.But hey, I know it's an opportunity for you to pretend and it makes you feel better about being so completely wrong about Iraq from the very beginning.

#22 | Posted by danni

This is another Danni Classic.
"I know you're right about Obama trying to extend our stay in Iraq, and failing. I just wanted to defend him even though what you said is true. besides, even though he tried, and failed, I think it's because he wanted to fail anyway, so there."

It's as if you're 9 fucking years old, you fucking retard. Seriously, what in the fuck goes through your head? Do you even read what you write, and if so, does your face turn red from the embarrassment?

"he wanted the troops out"

Yes, he wanted this so badly he continually tried to keep them there and continually went back to the negotiating table trying unsuccessfully to convince the Iraqi's that they should be there...

See, even when he fails, he wins! He literally isn't responsible for a thing, yet responsible for every good outcome! It's great living in this head of mine!
-GoBama, GoDanni!

Why waste your time, Chair? It's like talking to a Liberal version of the Chatty Cathy doll.

John McCain saw it the same way I did, I can get lots more people who should be in the know who also see it that way. Obama didn't want to keep the troops there any longer than he had to. He never thought they should have gone there in the first place...remember????

"McCain accused Obama of not being serious about replacing the deal negotiated by the George W. Bush administration, drawing a sharp denial from Panetta.

“The truth is that this administration was committed to the complete withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq and they made it happen,” McCain said."

" It's like talking to a Liberal version of the Chatty Cathy doll."

I've never heard John McCain described that way before.

I've never heard John McCain described that way before.

#27 | Posted by danni

No doubt. You're one of the few that still pretends it's 2008.

"You're one of the few that still pretends it's 2008." That response doesn't even make sense. I know it's 2012, it's the year Obama gets reelected. You think I would forget that?

Romney: Afghanistan Withdrawal Announcement 'Misguided'

Well, Mitt, tell us then why the US should remain. What is our mission? What is worth more US lives and maimings and traumas? What is worth more incidental civilian deaths under our weapons?

WWII was won in half the time against two (three if you count sad little Italy) extremely well armed and aggressive countries.

And Mitt, why have any of your five eligible sons joined up to go fight the good fight, the just fight, the noble fight? Would your attitude be different if it was one or more of your sons coming back missing body parts or sustaining debilitating head trauma? Or worse?

More Swiftboating. This is the same thing the Left said when Bush gave an exact date for our leaving Iraq.

calling the administration's decision to announce its military plans to the world "misguided" and "naive."...

"Today, his secretary of defense unleashed such a policy," said Romney. "The secretary of defense said that on a day certain, the middle of 2013, we're going to pull out our combat troops from Afghanistan."

You guys sicken me.

US out of Afghanistan.

I have no problem with the US defending itself, with having a strong military, with kicking the shit out of any country that or anybody who threatens us.

What the hell are we doing down there? What is the goal?

"And Mitt, why have"

haven't

"This is the same thing the Left said when Bush gave an exact date for our leaving Iraq."

Sorry, I don't remember that coming from the left, more like from the right.