Golly. A Democrat held on to one of the Portland-centric gerrymandered districts in one of the bluest states in the country. Yawwwwwwwnnnnn.

The D's margin of victory exceeded the Ds' advantage in registration. I suspect that this will carry over to fall as the R's have proven themselves nothing but enemies of all progress. herm

It's Oregon, Herm. Oregon. Have you ever watched Portlandia on the Independent Film Channel? It should be called Oregonia, at least along the I-5 corridor.

Well if Herm is right then Romney should just pack it in, Obama is guaranteed victory, he should win by an even larger margin than last time.

Somehow I think you are off the mark though. From what I've read, it appears that many swing states Obama won last time, he is doing much worse now. See Indiana, North Carolina, etc.

It's the economy stupid. As of now I think Obama will win, but by a lesser margin than last time out. But if the economy worsens, he has a decent chance of losing.

Hell, President Obama would be incredibly vulnerable if the ugly party had focused on developing a credible candidate instead of merely bad-mouthing their legally elected president and impeding any vestige of progress. President Obama, a Marxist to the more lunatic of the DR's lunatics, is to the right of two thirds of this nation. herm

President Obama, a Marxist to the more lunatic of the DR's lunatics, is to the right of two thirds of this nation. herm

Hilarious!

40% of this nation considers itself conservative, 40% moderate and 20% liberal.

Obama is to the left of about 80% of the country.

It's Oregon, Herm. Oregon. Have you ever watched Portlandia on the Independent Film Channel? It should be called Oregonia, at least along the I-5 corridor.

#3 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2012-02-01 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag: probably thinks Oregon is not actually in America

"Obama is to the left of about 80% of the country." In WHICH country does Jeff live? herm

Me thinks they think they live on a shiny city on the hill in a land far far away that time forgot.

#7 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Born and raised there. Went to college there. Dad still lives there. His house is a 4.5 hour drive to Eugene...but they're gerrymandered into the same congressional district...

40% of this nation considers itself conservative, 40% moderate and 20% liberal.

Obama is to the left of about 80% of the country.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ

And yet, the majority tends to support him on "liberal" issues like taxing the wealthy, getting out of Iraq and payroll tax cuts. Methinks the reality is that the Republicans are to the right of about 70% of the country.

If you were to ask that conservative 40% what they meant as "conservative", you wouldn't consider them conservative. What would the numbers be if you asked do you consider yourself to be unprogressive or progressive?

Golly. A Democrat held on to one of the Portland-centric gerrymandered districts in one of the bluest states in the country. Yawwwwwwwnnnnn.
#1 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2012-02-01 03:29 PM

Holy fuck you know little about how "rigged" it really gets.

The less densely populated and extremely conservative Eastern Oregon gets to impose their paranoid, anti-ecological, anti-gay views on the more populated cities since before I came of age to vote.

Thus, we consistently pass "socially conservative" legislation primarily because of these outlaying morons who constantly insist on imposing their brand of religion rather than to actually serve the needs of the people. Plus, through pet projects public money gets distributed away from necessary things like womens shelters and instead is subsidizing the removal of lower-income housing to install expensive high-rises that are 80% empty like the fucking Pearl District and the Trimet bio-diesel boondoggle.

Only recently have we been able to even bring the issue of gay marriage into court - it was always thrown out because the justice are bought and paid for conservative Christians.

The only issue Bonamici was terrified of answering during the Democrat debate was medical marijuana. Because of that specific kind of back-peddling for Big Pharma I don't trust her or Wyden.

...one of the bluest states in the country. Yawwwwwwwnnnnn.
-- #1 | Posted by MUSTANG

"It's Oregon, Herm. Oregon. Have you ever watched Portlandia on the Independent Film Channel? It should be called Oregonia, at least along the I-5 corridor.
#3 | Posted by MUSTANG"

You don't know shit.

"Dad still lives there. His house is a 4.5 hour drive to Eugene...but they're gerrymandered into the same congressional district...
#10 | Posted by MUSTANG"

There's only 5 districts you dimwit, and it's a big state. What district should your dad's shithole of a town be in?

I guess it's news when a Democrat can keep a seat these days. :)

I guess it's news when a Democrat can keep a seat these days. :)
#16 | Posted by Huguenot at 2012-02-01 06:11 PM

It's takes miracle elections for Republicans.:]

Dems Retain Oregon House Seat

#15 | POSTED BY MONTECORE

Check out how they chopped it up, dickweed. You really think anyone in lumber country has anything in common with the granola eaters in Eugene? Did Portland-metro and its population of whackjobs have to be split three ways? They should have set eastern oregon as one district (they came pretty close) and western Oregon as a separate district from Astoria to the Cali border, with the other three districts running down the I-5 corridor. At least then the districts would have some things in common.

By the way, nice job generalizing my hometown as a shithole. I presume you know as much about it as you do about any other topic you've posted about...

Regarding Congressional Districts, Oregon appears to be one of the least gerrymandered states.

I was referring to federal districts, Mustang, about which is the topic of the thread. Anyway you're preaching to the converted; I won't sully your day or this thread with the antics now transpiring in Kentucky regarding the gerrymandering game.

I saw your point Jay, I did. When you look at the map, if you're not Oregonian, it looks fairly straightforward at the federal level. You have to understand that Oregon, when looked at with a level of granularity, is a largely red state with a bright blue stripe running north from Eugene to Portland. The west is lumber and fishing, the east is cowboys. The districts drawn after the 2000 census made sure to include Eugene, Salem and Portland in 4 of the 5 districts. Portland in 3 of them alone.

Oregon isn't alone, obviously. I don't know about Kentucky's problems, but I've lived in both Maine and Florida in the last decade, and they are experiencing essentially the same issues as Oregon and probably every other state.

70% of oregons population lives in the willamette vally... which leans heavy left
it doesn't stop the 30% minority of country folk from claiming it's a red state

70% of oregons population lives in the willamette vally... which leans heavy left -- #25 | Posted by 503jc69

Even this is misleading, for 2 reasons:

(1) Portland and Eugene lean heavily left, but they're only a portion of "the Willamette Valley." Salem/Keizer, e.g., leans right.

(2) Oregon politics has a strong libertarian flavor to it. "Left" has a very different meaning there (actually closer to small gov't conservative) than it does in other regions -- e.g., pro-labor, pro-union, pro-safety net in the industrial midwest.

I didn't say it was a red state...I said that the coastal population and the eastern Oregon population was red, and that there was a bright blue streak up the middle from Eugene to Portland (the Willamette Valley, for those without maps).

There's an interesting article (ESPN?) that came out last year contrasting OSU and the U of O that demonstrates, to a certain extent, the differences [even though OSU is in Corvallis, which means "Heart of the Valley"].