Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, February 01, 2012

Fresh off a big victory in Florida, Mitt Romney said in a CNN interview Wednesday morning that he's not concerned about extremely poor Americans. "I'm in this race because I care about Americans," Romney said. "I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I'll fix it. I'm not concerned about the very rich. They're doing just fine. I'm concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling and I'll continue to take that message across the nation."

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"I'm not concerned about the very rich," he continued. "They're doing just fine. I'm concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling and I'll continue to take that message across the nation."

Anyone who believes this liar is crazy.

I believe that liar IS crazy.

It'll be nice to have someone who makes 20 million a year in the Oval Office (and only pays 15 percent on it) because he will SO understand the problems of the average Joe.

Maybe he'll even give us the Ryan Plan to Redistribute Wealth Upwards that America hates, ya think?

So he's lying when he says he doesn't care about the poor? After a comment like that, you shoulD push his honesty IMHO.

Well I know one thing, if romney gets the nomination the republicans have lost the elections.

I'm not concerned about the very poor.
--Romney
Anyone who believes this liar is crazy.
#2 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-01 12:34 PM

Lol?

He's right as they have the govt taking care of them. It is the middle class we need to worry about.

Wow. This guy is a gaffe machine. His advisors must have crapped their pants when they heard that.

"He's right as they have the govt taking care of them. It is the middle class we need to worry about."

Absolutely, but Romney doesn't give a crap about the middle class.

Absolutely, but Romney doesn't give a crap about the middle class.

#10 | Posted by danni

Back that statement up.

This guy is a gaffe machine.

#9 | Posted by rcade at 2012-02-01 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag: ELECTED JOE BIDEN AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

Wealthy people contribute more to American well being than poor people. It is proper that wealthy people are a patriotic politicians first concern.

Flag: ELECTED JOE BIDEN AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

The VP is allowed and actually expected to. We have a long tradition in this country of stupid comments by the VP. Rmoney is running for President and that raises the bar considerably.

COMPASIONATE CONSERVATISM...
oh yeah, it's dead...

good to know he is not concerned about 1/20 americans

I agree with him. We have a segment of our population that refuses to help themselves no matter how much money we throw at them. Our best bet is to lock them up or encourage abortions because there is a very strong overlap w/ this group and criminals. Concentrating on the 5% of this country not willing to help themselves is same as teaching a class at the pace of the kid with Downs Syndrome. We will not progress as a country until this segment is given some tough love and we focus on the 90% of Americans that are struggling - like Romney has said.

As the lefties here get all weeweed up over the headline they miss the point as usual.

Wealthy people contribute more to American well being than poor people. It is proper that wealthy people are a patriotic politicians first concern.

#13 | Posted by BradfordWinston

contribute more?

I wonder how many poor kids were killed in Iraq compared to wealthy sons and daughters.

Seems that is a bigger contribution.

I agree with Mitt. Fuck the poor. Just keep them penned in and throw them some bannanas.

Wealthy people contribute more to American well being than poor people.

Far from true.

Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... fuck with us.

Tyler Durden, Fight Club

"ELECTED JOE BIDEN AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES"

Here's a clue, scooter: Mitt isn't running for VP.

Compared to the idiot Sarah! Biden's a fucking genius.

So now the so called "entitlements" for the poor are not an issue. You know, the things that help them cover rising costs of just living and stagnant wages as well as massive loss of jobs because the 'rich' were greedy and tanked the economy?

good to know.

What a stupid fucking headline. Romney claims he is going to fix middle class problems and that policies are already in place to address poor peoples problems. Romney never tells anybody how he's going to fix middle class problems, of course, but he keeps promising he will. Many Americans (primarily party loyalists) are stupid enough to confuse this pointless blather with an actual solution to the problem.

ELECTED JOE BIDEN AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

Joe Biden is a gaffe machine too. He lost so badly in Iowa in 2008 he dropped out the next morning. Romney, on the other hand, is the all-but-certain Republican nominee.

Tyler Durden, Fight Club

#21 | Posted by kanrei

said it before, and I think to you,

great
fucking
movie.
*but a crappy book.

Mitt isn't running for VP

Yeah, I'm sure if Romney said he didn't care about poor people as a VP candidate, nobody here would care.

I agree with him. We have a segment of our population that refuses to help themselves no matter how much money we throw at them. Our best bet is to lock them up or encourage abortions because there is a very strong overlap w/ this group and criminals. Concentrating on the 5% of this country not willing to help themselves is same as teaching a class at the pace of the kid with Downs Syndrome. We will not progress as a country until this segment is given some tough love and we focus on the 90% of Americans that are struggling - like Romney has said.

#17 | Posted by Jacque_Strap

hmmm eliminate 5% from our society. Then we will have another bottom 5%, then we should eliminate them Then we will have another bottom 5%, then we should eliminate them. Eventually we will be left with one person-hope it is me.

reat
fucking
movie.
*but a crappy book.

Posted by Lohocla at 2012-02-01 01:27 PM |

Book was great IMHO.

Mitt needs his own laugh track. He says he's not concerned about the rich either. That they're doing well. Yet, he refuses to consider raising taxes on those who are doing very well.

Of course he's not concerned about the poor. They don't vote in very high numbers.

"Back that statement up."

I don't have to, Willard does it for me with his history at Bain.

So, Romney doesn't care about the very poor because there are ample programs to help them and very wealthy because they have the bucks to solve their own problems?

Obama has demonstrated that he cares only about redistributing wealth to the very poor and has ignored the middle class jobs issues for three plus years.

I think Romney wins this one

"I'm in this race because I care about corporations," Romney said. "I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have soylent green."

"I'm not concerned about the very rich. Just their taxes."

Rmoney

hmmm eliminate 5% from our society. Then we will have another bottom 5%, then we should eliminate them Then we will have another bottom 5%, then we should eliminate them. Eventually we will be left with one person-hope it is me.

#28 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

We need to control the growth of the segment of the population that refuses to help themselves - the druggies, the criminals, 3rd generation welfare mom popping out more kids and screaming - "someone needs to be responsible for feeding my kids". These people need to be controlled via prisons (zero tolerance for crime) and encouraging abortions/voluntary sterilization. This segment will always exist, we need to ensure that it does not grow and that we limit how many resources we waste trying to fix it - because it can't be fixed.

#29

I just couldn't get into it...was relegated to "throne room only" reading sessions. Didn't much care for the ending.

Then again, I did see the movie first, which is a rarity for me considering I was working at a bookstore so maybe that was it.
Thought it was funny that people were actually walking out of the theater..guess it's not everyones cup of tea.

I his previous life Willard did care about the middle class but in today's Republican Party he can't be that guy any more.

#35 | Posted by Lohocla at 2012-02-01 01:36 PM |

Don't wanna hijack, so answer will be in nooner and will start with the above.

In terms of shaking his image as an out-of-touch, uncaring, silver-spoon elitist who neither knows nor cares about the vast majority of Americans struggling to keep their heads above water?

[yourdoingitwrong]

Be Well.

"Many Americans (primarily party loyalists) are stupid enough to confuse this pointless blather with an actual solution to the problem."

No kiddding. WTF do the whining dems pretend what he said is not accurate, and instead yank out wtf their mentally challenged brain picked up, like Romney threw the poor off a cliff?

We don't have to pretend. Romney said he's "not concerned about the very poor," and we're taking him at his word. In fact, we're helping him spread the word about this position.

I'm not concerned about the very rich. They're doing just fine.

But another tax break for the rich sure wouldn't hurt right?

14% still is too damn high!

Wasn't it Romney and Baine Lobbyists that made sure the Rich are doing just fine?

"I'm not concerned about the very poor."

Who is lobbying for the poor? Certainly not Mittens and Paine Capital.

"Compared to the idiot Sarah! Biden's a fucking genius."

#22 | Posted by Zatoichi

No, Biden is only a genius compared to you

Well this explains why Crazy Michelle Bachmann is running as fast as she can from him. news.yahoo.com

I his previous life Willard did care about the middle class but in today's Republican Party he can't be that guy any more.

#36 | Posted by danni

The Democratic went from the Segregationist party to the Communist party but the Republicans are the ones that changed.......

Wow. This guy is a gaffe machine. His advisors must have crapped their pants when they heard that.

#9 | Posted by rcade

Yeah, I wish he would have mentioned the safty net.

What a stupid fucking headline. Romney claims he is going to fix middle class problems and that policies are already in place to address poor peoples problems. Romney never tells anybody how he's going to fix middle class problems, of course, but he keeps promising he will. Many Americans (primarily party loyalists) are stupid enough to confuse this pointless blather with an actual solution to the problem.

#24 | Posted by nutcase at 2012-02-01 01:26 PM


Since he only worries about middle class problems, his plan is to make more of the middle class poor, then his problems go away.

I wonder how much he worried about middle class problems, when he worked at Bain?

.

Compared to the idiot Sarah! Biden's a fucking genius.

#22 | Posted by Zatoichi at 2012-02-01 01:23 PM | Reply | Flag: #1 Idiot

Last checked, she lost and Biden won. Compared to you, Sarah is a fucking genius.

I wonder how many poor kids were killed in Iraq compared to wealthy sons and daughters.

Seems that is a bigger contribution.

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2012-02-01 01:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

None. None of the American military is "poor". Well, unless you work 40 years to redefine "poor" like libshits such as yourself have. They may have COME from "poor" families, but getting 3 squares, shelter, clothing, entertainment and a host of other items sans cost, THEY are not "poor". Unlike YOUR grasp on the real definition of the word.

Poor is a state of mind. Most are just broke.

I pretty much agree with him, but he's lying.

For many vets, poverty follows their military service. Homeless vets are all over the country, we see them every day.

"Sure we don't work and never iuntend to work and we get welfare, food stamps, free school lunches, free housing and free college but what about more free dope and gold chains?"

Average American Poor Fuck

Liberals love the poor. That's why they're creating more of them.

None. None of the American military is "poor". Well, unless you work 40 years to redefine "poor" like libshits such as yourself have. They may have COME from "poor" families, but getting 3 squares, shelter, clothing, entertainment and a host of other items sans cost, THEY are not "poor". Unlike YOUR grasp on the real definition of the word.

#48 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum

you really are stupid arent you?

For many vets, poverty follows their military service. Homeless vets are all over the country, we see them every day.

#51 | POSTED BY DANNI

Just because the homeless guy begging for money by the freeway offramp is wearing camo, it doesn't mean he was necessarily in the army. Because I hate U of Michigan, I started handing our UM Alumni t-shirts to the homeless in my area....doesn't mean they are actual graduates.

Because I hate U of Michigan, I started handing our UM Alumni t-shirts to the homeless in my area....doesn't mean they are actual graduates.

#55 | Posted by Jacque_Strap at 2012-02-01 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

Now that is some funny and clever shit.

Why do you hate UM so much?

Why do you hate UM so much?

Posted by curisemssl at 2012-02-01 02:21 PM |

Can't spell "scum" without it.

#6 | Posted by moneywar

Well I know one thing, if romney gets the nomination the republicans have lost the elections.
-----------
The debates will be all about the economy.
So who win? Someone who couldn’t run a Kool-Aid stand and proves it every day or someone who has worked in the private sector, turned around the Olympics and was governor of a state. I’ll take the ladder.

That said:
No president has ever been re-election with a high misery index, and he has the second highest in history. Only one president has been re-elected with a lousy economy. Also Standards & Poor might downgrade the US credit rating.

In today's political environment I wouldn't bet on either one.

"Just because the homeless guy begging for money by the freeway offramp is wearing camo, it doesn't mean he was necessarily in the army."
Just because you don't want to acknowledge the reality of America today doesn't change it. Listen to Ed Schultz some time, he used to be a rightie radio talker, he got turned around by helping out at a homeless shelter and discovering how many vets were homeless.

Although flawless counts are impossible to come by â€" the transient nature of homeless populations presents a major difficulty â€" the Departments of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and Veterans Affairs (VA) estimate that over 67,000 veterans are homeless on any given night. Over the course of a year, approximately twice that many experience homelessness. Only eight percent of the general population can claim veteran status, but nearly one-fifth of the homeless population are veterans.

www.nchv.org

Liberals love the poor. That's why they're creating more of them.

#53 | Posted by Ray at 2012-02-01 02:12 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

Of course they love them. They're generally uneducated, easily fooled and can be swayed by promising to steal from "the rich" on their behalf.

It's easy for liberals to say, "Look at Mr. White from Corporation X. See that car, don't you want a car like that? Elect me and I'll make sure you get a piece of it, one way or another."

Why do you hate UM so much?

#56 | POSTED BY CURISEMSSL

As a graduate of 2 Big Ten Schools, I will always cheer for other Big Ten teams when they play other conferences...I found this to be the case with every other Big Ten school unless there was a huge rivalry. With Michigan fans, they only cheer for Michigan and don't give a crap about the rest of the conference. No school is bigger than the league so Michigan can suck a fat dick as far as I am concerned.

Can't spell "scum" without it.

#57 | Posted by kanrei at 2012-02-01 02:22 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

This is true...

As a graduate of 2 Big Ten Schools, I will always cheer for other Big Ten teams when they play other conferences...I found this to be the case with every other Big Ten school unless there was a huge rivalry. With Michigan fans, they only cheer for Michigan and don't give a crap about the rest of the conference. No school is bigger than the league so Michigan can suck a fat dick as far as I am concerned.

#62 | Posted by Jacque_Strap at 2012-02-01 02:30 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

HaHa fair enough.

Veterans Affairs (VA) estimate that over 67,000 veterans are homeless on any given night.
#60 | POSTED BY KANREI

They need FORCED substance abuse programs and mental health programs...good luck with that and the ACLU. The ACLU is the reason why we have so many deranged homeless on the streets every night.

if there is a safety net, why should he be concerned about the very poor? should he obsess over them beyond fixing the safety net? are they not primarily a state issue anyway? while the statement is politically lame (especially when taken out of context), it's essentially accurate. pres needs to focus on jobs, taxes, debt, and getting rid of crony capitalism and job killing regulation.

JACQUE,

I hate the UofM too and I actually attended that shithole for awhile. Glad to hear that you're in the club. Keep up the good work with those shirts.

if there is a safety net, why should he be concerned about the very poor?

Because the safety net can only hold so much and we are hemorrhaging money and putting more and more strain on that safety net. That is why. You solve a problem before it becomes a problem, not after.

Everyone is poor compared to Romney.

His real message is that he doesn't care about any of us.

For many vets, poverty follows their military service. Homeless vets are all over the country, we see them every day.

#51 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-01 02:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right - like I said, no poor Americans were killed in Iraq. Thanks for proving my point. Once they are a vet - they are no longer a soldier - which is what the shithead up thread was implying - poor kids dying in the service of their country - doesn't happen today.

#68 under that definition, they it would need mending. but again, it's primarily a state issue...

You solve a problem before it becomes a problem, not after.

#68 | POSTED BY KANREI

Interesting that you think the bottom 5% of the population that refuses to help themselves can be solved. Exactly how do you solve that issue for the meth or crack addict living on the street - by giving them money? Or, the 3rd generation welfare recipient with 8 kids by 8 different dudes...how do you solve that issue?

usmilitary.about.com

They actually get paid better than I thought.

you really are stupid arent you?

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2012-02-01 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, but thanks for asking. Please do show me a poor soldier.

poor
adj
1.
a. lacking financial or other means of subsistence; needy

American soldiers in Iraq had all the money and subsistence they needed. So, fuckoff truthless.

Exactly how do you solve that issue for the meth or crack addict living on the street - by giving them money?

1. Remove the laws making them a criminal. If they are a criminal, they will never seek help.

2. Provide treatment centers with 24 hour staff and medical personal on premises.

3. Provide extensive counseling for ALL troops being removed from combat duty. I am talking about a serious 2 month evaluation of all troops for signs of PTSD.

4. Provide shelters with drug testing and counseling.

5. Repeat step 1 because it is vital they be not viewed as criminals.

Everyone is poor compared to Romney.
His real message is that he doesn't care about any of us.
#69 | Posted by ClownShack

Neither does any other politician. Liars and con men to the core. Servants to the rich. Dumb ass voters keep sending them back to office.

His real message is that he doesn't care about any of us.

#69 | Posted by ClownShack at 2012-02-01 02:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Romney, or ANY presidential candidate. To think otherwise is absurd. Big ears cares as much as Romney - and big ears' wife cares even less so long as she gets her vacations and spending sprees at the high end porn shops.

1. Remove the laws making them a criminal. If they are a criminal, they will never seek help.
2. Provide treatment centers with 24 hour staff and medical personal on premises.
#75 | POSTED BY KANREI

You are assuming that they WANT TO QUIT. A lot of addicts don't want to quit - which is why they drop out of rehab and even keep using after prison, etc. What do you do for these people?

the 3rd generation welfare recipient with 8 kids by 8 different dudes...how do you solve that issue?

By increasing Planned Parenthood, sex education.

Eliminating the "per child" welfare benefit and make it a flat rate per family.

@75

Yes. Well said. Decriminalization of drugs will lower crime and poverty.

"Once they are a vet - they are no longer a soldier - which is what the shithead up thread was implying - poor kids dying in the service of their country - doesn't happen today."

I get it. They are poor until the day they report for duty, then while they serve they aren't poor, then the day they are discharged they are poor again. Great! God Bless America!
Fight our wars for oil and when you are done fuck you!

"Once they are a vet - they are no longer a soldier - which is what the shithead up thread was implying - poor kids dying in the service of their country - doesn't happen today."

I get it. They are poor until the day they report for duty, then while they serve they aren't poor, then the day they are discharged they are poor again. Great! God Bless America!
Fight our wars for oil and when you are done fuck you!

You are assuming that they WANT TO QUIT.

You are assuming far more. I thought you wanted to play assumption when you said " that refuses to help themselves."

By increasing Planned Parenthood, sex education.
Eliminating the "per child" welfare benefit and make it a flat rate per family.
#79 | POSTED BY KANREI

So, you agree that providing welfare benefits encourages people to have children that they can not afford?

Also, what do you do with the woman who keeps having kids regardless - make them starve? There will always be people that keep having kids...

You are assuming far more. I thought you wanted to play assumption when you said " that refuses to help themselves."

#83 | POSTED BY KANREI

I am assuming that some of the drug addicts out there do not want to quit. What do you do with them?

By increasing Planned Parenthood, sex education.
Eliminating the "per child" welfare benefit and make it a flat rate per family.
#79 | POSTED BY KANREI AT 2012-02-01 02:50 PM | REPLY | FLAG

gimme a break. PP gets plenty of funding, sex ed is in every public school and every child unless the parents opt out. the per child hurts the very poor not helps, but continue on how Romney ought to obsess over the poor....

So, you agree that providing welfare benefits encourages people to have children that they can not afford?


Yes, I do.

what do you do with the woman who keeps having kids regardless - make them starve?

Now I will sound heartless and cruel, but a person intentionally having kids they can't afford is child endangerment plain and simple.

What do you do with them?

Nothing; they made their choice. Freedom doesn't always have positive outcomes. You are free to fuck it all up if you choose.

but continue on how Romney ought to obsess over the poor....

#86 | Posted by somoco at 2012-02-01 02:53 PM

Strawman, line 2. Never said anything of the kind.

There will always be people that keep having kids...

Pay them 10,000 dollars to tie their tubes.

Everybody comes out ahead.

Pay them 10,000 dollars to tie their tubes.


Even though the majority of those who receive the benefits are White, it would be called "a back door genocide of the Black community" and we all know it.

Welcome back E_Pliable

First, on the matter of TruthHurts, he is stating most soilders come from poor families. I'm sure you understood.

Second, I don't trust Romney has the best interests of the middle class. I think it's his platform. But not his intent. His intent, IMO, is to help the upper class be able to become much much richer while completely ignoring the middle and lower class. Is it class warfare? Yea, but when you got all the money, you can disguise class warfare as advantageous to those you would be killing off.

Dudes a sociopath.
www.mcafee.cc

campaign2012.washingtonexamine
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HUGE OBAMA LOSS STATE BY STATE

This thread could use some factual information SORRY,,,

Obama would lose the 2012 election to the Republican nominee 323 electoral votes to 215.

Gallup adds:

Overall, Obama averaged 44% job approval in his third year in office, down from 47% in his second year.

Jaque is obviously a Buckeyes fan.

Having said that his characterization of typical U of M fans is fairly accurate. As for this U of M fan, the only Big-10 team I can't bring myself to root for is the Buckeyes, and that goes for football only.

I have a difficult time rooting for Sparty as well.

I get it. They are poor until the day they report for duty, then while they serve they aren't poor, then the day they are discharged they are poor again. Great! God Bless America!
Fight our wars for oil and when you are done fuck you!

#82 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-01 02:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Did I miss the draft being implemented, or did ALL servicemen not know what the deal was when they signed up?

Taking care of them when they get back for mental health is a different story but they don't "deserve" to be on the people's tab for the rest of their lives because they "fought for oil" as you put it. The signed a contract, they honored it, and we honored it as a nation. You make it sound like we should give them all 2 15 minute breaks everyday during war or the ACLU will come out swinging.

The grabber is some morons actually believing that the 99% are too lazy/shiftless to help themselves. herm

We don't have to pretend. Romney said he's "not concerned about the very poor," and we're taking him at his word. In fact, we're helping him spread the word about this position.

#40 | Posted by rcade at 2012-02-01 01:42 PM

LMAO... Let me guess, like Bush wasn't concerned about finding OBL, right rcade? Damn easy when one is dishonest enough to omit the most salient point and make it look any way they want...

Almost sad what constitutes as news when enough whining simpletons get together and agree something as silly as this meaningful...

American soldiers in Iraq had all the money and subsistence they needed. So, fuckoff truthless.

#74 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum

Right...So why is it again that soldiers need to be protected from Bank foreclosures?

Why are their wives and kids struggling at home? Lower level soldiers do not have ALL THE MONEY THEY NEED and they struggle financially just like their civilian counterparts. More so because the extra stress.

"Obama would lose the 2012 election to the Republican nominee 323 electoral votes to 215."

yeeeaaaah.......o....kay......

Let me guess, like Bush wasn't concerned about finding OBL, right rcade?

And you would guess right! But, only if you believe what GW himself said.

"I truly am not that concerned about him (Osama bin Laden). I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country."
- George W. Bush, 2002

"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you."
- George W. Bush, 3/13/2002

Right about now somebody is telling Rmoney that this is 21st century America and not medieval Europe and he should keep his mouth shut. Especially if he really, really thinks that way and is just being honest. As Newt pointed out there's certainly some evidence pointing that way.

""Obama would lose ... 323 electoral votes to 215." Obama will win 43 states. Minimum. herm

All kinds of social programs exist to help the very poor, as we've seen in this Obama economy. Their growth is off the charts, and Obama has their votes anyway.

Romney is actually being clever here. When the middle class surveys the landscape, they see that the underclass get their housing and food for free, with tax "credits" for work they don't do, with the middle class picking up the tab.

Have to give him some credit, finally.

Obama will win 43 states. Minimum. herm

#102 | Posted by herm

I'll take that bet. How does $1,000 sound?

he got turned around by helping out at a homeless shelter and discovering how many vets were homeless

Depends on the word "Vet". Alot of people washed out of the service after less than six months. Some, got chaptered after 13 months of "service", the majority of which was going in and out of the commander's office getting ART 15's and the last months served in the Chapter out battalion. In the strict sense of the word, are they a "Vet", yes when stretching the word.

I was an AIT commander, the phase of troops coming into the military to learn their trade. We would have problems with soldiers who couldnt adapt to our culture and way of life. Those we put out of the service. They would often hit up the VA on the way out the door with fabricated claims of injuries. The VA is draconian about claims, so they are usually told to take a hike. Then they go on the streets and claim "Homeless Vet" and pray off of liberals.

While there are "Vets" out there, not all put up with combat and stuck it out for years to become a true "Vet"...

Putting down the poor is rating right there with the "racist" accusation. Any little tiny toehold in politics seems to work - whether it's classless horseshit like this meaninless accusation - or not.

I'll take that bet. How does $1,000 sound?

#104 | Posted by rightisright at 2012-02-01 03:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

No bet was offered dumbass.

Herm,

I wouldnt go making bets like that, if I were you...secretly, everyone knows Obama is going to lose...

campaign2012.washingtonexamine
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Any little tiny toehold in politics seems to work - whether it's classless horseshit like this meaninless accusation - or not.

#106 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

you mean like flag pins and palling with terrorists or being a secret Muslim from Kenya or "guns and bibles"? That the kinda meaningless horseshit you talking about?

oh yeah...we gonna have sum fun with the Magic Underwear Man this year.

Best stay away from the fire if ya don't wanna have them Boils bursting all over ya Uncle Fester.

And that map proves California and the Northeast should NOT be allowed to vote...they are too fucking stupid.

#105 | Posted by boaz at 2012-02-01 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Spoken like a true socialist hypocrite. You had the choice between choosing life in a capitalist society or a socialist society. You chose socialism. Yet you deny socialist programs to others.

Herm,

I wouldnt go making bets like that, if I were you...secretly, everyone knows Obama is going to lose...

#108 | Posted by boaz at 2012-02-01 04:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Herm offered no bet, dumbass.

I'll bet none of you DR lefties are concerned about the poor either.

I'll bet none of you DR lefties are concerned about the poor either.

#113 | Posted by Huguenot at 2012-02-01 04:26 PM | Reply | Flag

How much, loudmouth?

Romney gaffe?
I smell a Santorum comeback!

you mean like flag pins and palling with terrorists or being a secret Muslim from Kenya or "guns and bibles"? That the kinda meaningless horseshit you talking about?
#109 | Posted by donnerboy

Kissing the terroristic muslim ass is NOT meaninless to most normal clear thinking Patriotic Americans sonny.

@114
I'm pretty poor and don't have any money to bet. But thanks for caring enough to insult me. ;)

#116 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2012-02-01 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Killing bin Laden is not kissing terrorist ass.

Flying bin Ladens family out of the US after 911 is kissing terrorist ass. Who did that?

@115
It's not a gaffe. DR is spinning it out of context.

@118
LOL, why not fly them out? Did they not get something that they deserved? Knobby?

I'm pretty poor and don't have any money to bet. But thanks for caring enough to insult me. ;)

#117 | Posted by Huguenot at 2012-02-01 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Calling a loudmouth a loudmouth is hardly an insult. You want to bet with no money---that's pretty much the definition of a loudmouth.

LOL, why not fly them out? Did they not get something that they deserved? Knobby?

#120 | Posted by Huguenot at 2012-02-01 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

wtf are you talking about loudmouth? Make sense.

#111 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Fuck off Buffalo asshole...

The Army hired me for a job, trained me and sent me to shithole countries to face an enemy that would have you pissing your pants. When your "socialist welfare" receipents start getting hired to be a welfare rat (which probably isnt that far off in Obama's utopia), they start getting W-2's for receiving welfare and that welfare is taxed like I just got taxed, then you can call it socialism. Until then, it's just mainly you talking out your antennae holding, smoke-stack wearing ass...

#123 | Posted by boaz at 2012-02-01 04:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Facts are facts. You had the choice between living in a capitalist society, and a socialist society. You chose socialism, most likely because you knew you couldn't compete in the capitalist society. You suck off the government teat for your nourishment. Yet you deny socialist programs to others.

That makes you a socialist hypocrite.

and punk to me.

Kissing the terroristic muslim ass is NOT meaninless to most normal clear thinking Patriotic Americans sonny.

#116 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

But, saying it when it is NOT true IS by definition meaningless horseshit...little boy(le).

Need I remind you...Obama is the Osama Slayer ...You remember Osama Bin Laden? The Worlds Number One Terrorist Muslim?

Well He Dead!

And how many others Terrorists have been killed in Drone attacks under Obama's leadership?

So Obama is not a Terrorist ass kisser and you are still spouting that meaningless rethug horsehit.

And I rest my case Uncle Fester.

No, but thanks for asking. Please do show me a poor soldier.

poor
adj
1.
a. lacking financial or other means of subsistence; needy

American soldiers in Iraq had all the money and subsistence they needed. So, fuckoff truthless.

#74 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum

ahhhh the sound of the willfully stupid

Lets give Rmoney credit for making this statement. I hope he continues to keep it up making statements like this!

I agree with what Rcade stated earlier. I bet his campaign handlers were SHITTING THEIR PANTS when they heard this come out of his mouth.

This is the most STUPID statement I have heard from a Presidential contender since the Daddy Bush gaffe where he did not know the price of a gallon of milk.

We need to OCCUPY Wall Street.

Not allow a Wall Street insider to OCCUPY the White House!

ahhhh the sound of the willfully stupid

#126 | Posted by truthhurts at 2012-02-01 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag

ahhh the sound of the willfully brainwashed. There are very few "poor" Americans. "Poor" is when Sally Struthers is standing over you with a bowl of soup - not when you wonder how you are going to pay for that next xbox360 game or why you have to settle for only one pair of air-jordans a year.

Not allow a Wall Street insider to OCCUPY the White House!

#127 | Posted by Monstman at 2012-02-01 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

In case you lost track of the current wall street insider in the white house:

obama's wall street connections

Tool.

""Obama would lose ... 323 electoral votes to 215." Obama will win 43 states. Minimum. herm

#102 | Posted by herm at 2012-02-01 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'll bet you a donation to your favorite baby killing factory that he doesn't.

Anyone who believes this liar is crazy.

#2 | Posted by danni

Says someone who voted for Obama...

I agree with what Rcade stated earlier. I bet his campaign handlers were SHITTING THEIR PANTS when they heard this come out of his mouth.

#127 | Posted by Monstman

What?

You prefer someone like Obama to lie to you?

What Mitt said is the truth and shows leadership.

I'm a Ron Paul supporter. This is probably why something like this makes sense to me.

I'd prefer a leader to tell me the truth rather than lie just to get stupid people to vote for him.

#130 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at 2012-02-01 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

How sure are you of a Romney win? I'll give you Romney, and you give me 3-1 odds. I'll bet $100. That means if Romney wins, you win $100---if Obama wins, you lose $300.

Do you accept?

How sure are you of a Romney win? I'll give you Romney, and you give me 3-1 odds. I'll bet $100. That means if Romney wins, you win $100---if Obama wins, you lose $300.

Do you accept?

#133 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2012-02-01 05:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

I didn't make that claim - I said big ears will not win 43 states. At this point it seems a tossup - big ears failures vs romneys vanilla stance on everything. The racist vote by the left will probably determine the outcome.

So now the so called "entitlements" for the poor are not an issue. You know, the things that help them cover rising costs of just living and stagnant wages as well as massive loss of jobs because the 'rich' were greedy and tanked the economy?
good to know.
#23 | Posted by Lohocla at 2012-02-01 01:26 PM

BINGO.

"The racist vote by the left will probably determine the outcome."

Or the extra states obama will visit. It was 10 last time is he going to up it to twenty time?

Not allow a Wall Street insider to OCCUPY the White House!

#127 | Posted by Monstman at 2012-02-01 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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I sort of like this OWS movement. It is actually a fairly clear representation of the feelings of many of the nations around the world towards the U.S. itself.

Most of the wealth is centered at the top, our case Billionares, their case, America.

The Bankers run our government, our government runs (or tries to at least) the world. Why do these groups try to control the rest? Money and power, of course.

Some people here are rising up against the corrupt government domestically while other nation's peoples are rising up against their local governments, which usually sell out to American interests (the Middle East and Africa etc.).

With the dispersal of technology and the web, people from all over the world are seeing how easy we have it in America and they want theirs. Eventually, they'll piece together that the U.S. doesn't want to share their wealth.

In the long run, thanks to the free market, this will correct itself and other nations will begin to rise up social heirarcy and become more level in terms of standard of living.

Now, while I know that this leveling needs to happen, I would rather it happen gradually than rapidly. However, if morons like Danni have their way, this will come sooner rather than later. Why will it come sooner rather than later? Because she would rather bankrupt this country with huge social programs because she can't live like some millionares do. She would rather protect unions who price themselves out of the global market place than accept that things cannot go back to the way they were, for low-skilled paying jobs. She would rather punish those who produce than aim to be like them.

It's a sad state of affiars.

p.s. taxes should increase across the board (starting with the dividend tax)and expenditures should be cut across the board as well. (before either side tries jumping on me)

Hilarious how many Obamabots state he doesn't care about the average Joe when Romneycare was a precursor to Obamacare, and according to said bots Obamacare is the greatest thing for the average Joe since sliced bread.

Once again, their hypocrisy is showing.

No bet was offered dumbass.

#107 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

I know. You're just a bloviating windbag. And if you did lose, you wouldn't pay me. I'm still waiting on my money from Moder8, who did bet, and lost, and didn't pay.

You'll still look like a stupid douche when Zero wins far less than half of 43 states. By the way--you do know there are only 50, right?

You'll still look like a stupid douche when Zero wins far less than half of 43 states.

#139 | Posted by rightisright at 2012-02-01 05:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

I never said Obama would win 43 states, dumbass. You look like a stupid douche now.

;-)

Hilarious how many Obamabots state he doesn't care about the average Joe when Romneycare was a precursor to Obamacare

It's also funny to watch anyone pretend that Romney would be any worse for the poor and middle class than Obama has been. The poor have gotten poorer during Obama's tenure, the middle class has continued to be shit upon, and Bush's tax cuts for the rich have been extended.

There is no major party politician who gives a fuck about poor people.

and Bush's tax cuts for the rich have been extended.

#141 | Posted by JOE at 2012-02-01 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag

What's your take on why those tax cuts for the rich were extended? Who fought for those extensions and who was against them? Who will fight against those extensions if Romney wins? What color is the grass in your world?

Shut the fuck up, Bob. Obama is President. Obama signed the bill that extended the cuts. If he was genuinely opposed to them, he would not have signed the bill.

Obama is President. Obama extended the tax cuts. Fucking deal with it, and shut the fuck up.

#143 | Posted by JOE at 2012-02-01 05:51 PM | Reply | Flag

Your faliure to answer the questions shows your complete lack of intellect. Obama did the best he could to get rid of those tax cuts, but the republicans held the middle class hostage. Obama wanted the tax cuts for the poor and middle class extended only, but the republicans wouldn't go along unless those tax cute were extended for the rich. Republicans were willing to shut down the entire government for those tax cuts for the rich.

Obama compromised. Something republicans never do.

Put them in charge of everything, then wonder why the country is going to shit. The same way things went to shit with Bush---and you are still wondering why. What color is the grass in your world?

What color is the grass in your world?

#144 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Well, it's kinda orange green and has a strong burning citrusy smell. Especially when you grind it up.

reviews.nuggetry.com

#145 | Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-01 06:07 PM | Reply | Flag

sweeeeeeeeeeet

Obama did the best he could to get rid of those tax cuts, but the republicans held the middle class hostage.

What are you saying? That as President, he had no power to persuade them or stop them? Sounds like a pretty ineffective President to me.

People who try and fail (Obama) will get the middle class no further than people who don't try in the first place. Either way, you fail. Good intentions ascribed to Obama by shitbirds like you don't do anything to help the middle class.

I would like to thank all the Libtarts who have won me lunch for next week as I knew what the D.R. headline would be, a coworker bet I didn't.

Look if there is no middle class who is going to pay the taxes that the Govt. converts in to U.E., student loans, welfare, food stamps, etc,etc.

You know with so many people voting for a living now instead of working for a living you would think the Gimme People* would understand that the middle class is whats keeping them alive.

And the very poor need to STOP MAKING BABIES that they can't feed or house.
Birth control is free.
Romney also said if the is a problem with the safety net he would fix it.

But we should not take care of the people who take out of the system before we take care of the people who put into the system.
Being poor does not put you at the top of the list, it puts you at the bottom for more from the Govt. as pretty much your whole existence is reliant on the Govt. giving you other peoples property.

Romney has said in plain clear language what and in what order he is going to try and fix the mess America is in.
No nobel stories about helping the poor tomorrow or that the rich are people too.
No he said he would first help the biggest number of Americans he can as soon as he can, the middle class.

Most middle class people out of work just need a job and they are fine.
The very poor need a job AND in most cases need their whole lives rebuilt before they can work every day and keep a job.
The rich....well they'll figure it out on their own.

*(Not people who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own they want to work)

......NOPE IN NOVEMBER......

And the very poor need to STOP MAKING BABIES that they can't feed or house.
Birth control is free.

hmmm perhaps you can have a talk with the Catholic Church about this very subject?

Romney also said if the is a problem with the safety net he would fix it.

And we all know how Romney "fixes" stuff don't we.

If you are hangin all your hopes on Romney in November you are so fucked.

Just like the employees of the companies he "fixed".

And we all know how Romney "fixes" stuff don't we.

You and Obama seem to like his healthcare fix.

and Bush's tax cuts for the rich have been extended.

#141 | Posted by JOE at 2012-02-01 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag

What's your take on why those tax cuts for the rich were extended? Who fought for those extensions and who was against them? Who will fight against those extensions if Romney wins? What color is the grass in your world?

#142 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Unfairly tax a group over another is bad.

The grass is green.

Sure, BoOb, I would love to take money from the rich and get away with it, but I can't do that and not call it stealing.

Here's your problem. You think that because the income tax has been around for a long time that you think it's ok. It's not.

You also think that the Rich should be soaked in order to keep up the insane spending.

You're wrong again.

The Federal Government needs to cut spending and live within its means.

If you'd said that, you'd be right.

I show my concern by paying my taxes in a timely manner - then I fan forget about them for another year.

fan=can

#147 | Posted by JOE at 2012-02-01 06:39 PM | Reply | Flag

If you want those tax cuts taken away, why would you support someone who wants to extend them?

Romney has said in plain clear language what and in what order he is going to try and fix the mess America is in.
No nobel stories about helping the poor tomorrow or that the rich are people too.

#148 | Posted by MENSAKOOK at 2012

The biggest story to emerge from the interminable Republican primary season is that Willard Romney is a horrible, horrible candidate.

Unless you beleive in magic, and I know that some of you do, it is logically expected Willard will be just as poor a specimen of a man in office as he has been attempting to attain office.

He's not going to fix any damned thing. Willard simply doesn't have the talent. Elect him regardless and I'm willing to bet that you find he really doesn't even have the interest.

#151 | Posted by Eddie at 2012-02-01 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Rich people like Romney don't work for their money. He makes $57,000 a day doing nothing. He can afford to pay more than 15% tax.

He got his money by borrowing enough money to buy a company. Then he used that company's assets to borrow more money---millions----then he pays himself the millions he borrows, then walks away from the loan, bankrupting the company and throwing people out of jobs, while he made millions. Doing nothing.

Tell me a rich person who works harder than a waitress. Supporting the rich when the only jobs they create are in China and India is sheer stupidity.

Romney has said in plain clear language what and in what order he is going to try and fix the mess America is in.

#148 | Posted by MENSAKOOK at 2012

Link?

It's interesting to me that even Republicans are FINALLY begining to wonder out loud how the GOP could let such turds get so close to the presidency.

Both Willard and Newt, if either is elected, go into to office with the moral authority of the average family pet. Not that the average Amercian family would force fido to piss and shit himself above the family car.

I've read Romney's remarks about the poor in context. It's unfair to interpret them as callousness towards the poor. HOWEVER, they will stick to the man as exactly that because he's already convinced a majority of Americans that he is a mercenary, arrogant, and elitist pile of shit.

The REASON Willard has had trouble muting his pile-of-shitness is that it's the same act that's already brought him so far in life. He doesn't quite comprehend why it's not fully opening doors for him now.

Damn, I've never personally observed a member of the LDS who LIES as much as Willard Romney does.

Tell me a rich person who works harder than a waitress.

#156 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2012-02-01 07:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Any professional football player. You are an idiot and a brainwashed fool if you think every rich person sits on the couch counting their money while the buffalo boobs and dummis of the world work to fill their coffers. STFU, take your teeth out and go take a nap.

What a stupid fucking headline. Romney claims he is going to fix middle class problems and that policies are already in place to address poor peoples problems. Romney never tells anybody how he's going to fix middle class problems, of course, but he keeps promising he will. Many Americans (primarily party loyalists) are stupid enough to confuse this pointless blather with an actual solution to the problem.

#24 | Posted by nutcase at 2012-02-01 01:26 PM | Reply | Flag

Check this out, nutcase............ Obama never tells anybody how he's going to fix middle class problems, of course, but he keeps promising he will. Many Americans (primarily party loyalists) are stupid enough to confuse this pointless blather with an actual solution to the problem.

You are an idiot and a brainwashed fool if you think every rich person sits on the couch counting their money while the buffalo boobs and dummis of the world work to fill their coffers.

#160 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at

I'm sure that description doesn't apply to most rich folk. Unfortunately, you can make a solid case it applies to Willard just by repeating what he's said for public consumption and looking at how he's lived his life.

Willard was a young man eligible for military service who got a cushy alternative to Vietnam because his daddy had clout.

This should remind you of someone else. How did he work out?

RE: 17 Jacque...
Concentrating on the 5% of this country not willing to help themselves is same as teaching a class at the pace of the kid with Downs Syndrome.

Excellently put! Except that I think it's gotta be more like 25%, don't you?

JM

Tell me a rich person who works harder than a waitress. Supporting the rich when the only jobs they create are in China and India is sheer stupidity.

#156 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

It's none of your damn business.

If you want a job, then you have to make your skill set valuable.

If you are overpriced, then you don't get the job.

Yes, it sucks that the Chinese work more for less.

Any questions?

If you are overpriced, then you don't get the job.
~Eddie, to the man in the neighboring stall

Yes, it sucks that the Chinese work more for less.

#164 | Posted by Eddie

Sucks for the freaking Chinese most of all.

Damn, your sort of stupidity is inspired. Can't be taught.

No bet was offered dumbass.

#107 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2012-02-01 04:14 PM |

Yes there was. It was offered to Herm, dumbass.

I'll bet none of you DR lefties are concerned about the poor either.

#113 | Posted by Huguenot at 2012-02-01 04:26 PM |

Sure they are. They encourage others to volunteer. They're too busy blogging 10 hours a day to have time to volunteer or get a 2nd job so they could pony up some money for their victims in the form of voluntary additional taxes.

They help the poor everyday. Just ask em. Or ax em if you want to.

Obama never tells anybody how he's going to fix middle class problems, of course, but he keeps promising he will.

#161 | Posted by Washboard at 2012-02-01 08:15 PM | Reply | Flag

Maybe you just aren't paying attention.

Job Program

Bridge to Work

Where's Romneys plan?

Sucks for the freaking Chinese most of all.
Damn, your sort of stupidity is inspired. Can't be taught.

#166 | POSTED BY ZED

Don't worry, thanks to the efforts of the GOtPers we will be no better off than the Chinese.

Tea Party, the blind servents of capitalism.


Romney has said in plain clear language what and in what order he is going to try and fix the mess America is in.

#148 | Posted by MENSAKOOK at 2012

Link?

#157 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Will his quote below serve as the "Link ?" you asked for.

It should fit nicely into the space between the two in your head.

"I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I'll fix it. I'm not concerned about the very rich. They're doing just fine. I'm concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling and I'll continue to take that message across the nation."

....NOPE IN NOVEMBER......

Yes there was. It was offered to Herm, dumbass.

#167 | Posted by Washboard at 2012-02-01 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Which post# ? No one offered to bet Herm. They accepted a bet that was never made. twit.

You idiots don't like the 15% tax on investments?

Write your fucking congressman.

He's doing nothing you wouldn't do.

Dumbass fuckers.

rwd

#171 | Posted by MENSAKOOK at 2012-02-01 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag

Now link to the "HOW". So far Obama has a history of helping the middle class and has plans as to HOW to put more people back to work and off unemployment.

Where's Romney's HOW he'll do it.

If you want those tax cuts taken away, why would you support someone who wants to extend them?

If you want those tax cuts taken away, why would you support someone who is incapable of extending them?

of taking them away

If you want those tax cuts taken away, why would you support someone who is incapable of extending them?

#175 | Posted by JOE at 2012-02-01 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag

Since I don't want them extended, someone who would be incapable of extending them would be a good thing.

Let's make it simeple joe.

Romney----no chance of raising taxes on rich.

Obama----will raise taxes on rich.

Obama was protecting the middle class that the republicans were willing to sacrifice for those tax cuts. The tax cuts were due to expire for all. Obama wanted the tax cuts held for the middle class. Republicans would not accept that. They would have let the tax cuts expire for all. They chose the rich over the middle class and poor. Obama saved the tax cuts for the poor and middle class.

Now link to the "HOW". So far Obama has a history of helping the middle class and has plans as to HOW to put more people back to work and off unemployment.

Where's Romney's HOW he'll do it.

#174 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Well he did say it was his Hope to Change the person in the White House.

But if that won't do the LINK below should be just what your looking for as he clearly lays out what he will do and how he will do it.
Of course he only addressed about 6 things, but for the most part those things are exactly what the problems we as Americans face right now.

And I might add that although he did not mention you by name if he had met you already he would have mentioned 7 things.

www.thehollywoodgossip.com

....NOPE IN NOVEMBER.....

Given that the rightards have spent the last 3 years lying, misquoting or taking out of context stuff Obama has said, I'm sure they won't mind if the Dems do it to Rmoney.

Liberals love the poor. That's why they're creating more of them.

#53 | Posted by Ray

That is friggin prophetic.

THE WAR ON POVERTY DIDN'T HELP BLACKS
Many claim the 40-year War on Poverty was responsible for the economic rise of blacks, but economist Thomas Sowell says this simply isn't true.

Sowell says despite myriad programs intended to tackle poverty at its roots and to offer more opportunities to those starting out in life, the War on Poverty was far from successful. For example:

•Black families disintegrated under a generous welfare system that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.
•Government housing projects created for the poor degenerated quickly into violent slums, trapping countless families in a life of misery and despair.
The reality is that the rise of blacks began decades before any of these programs, writes Sowell. Moreover, this upward progression was not helped by liberal social policies of the 1960s:

•The poverty rate among black families fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent in 1960, during an era of virtually no major civil rights legislation or anti-poverty programs.
•While the poverty rate dropped another 17 percentage points during the 1960s and another point in the 1970s, this continuation of the previous trend was not unprecedented nor credibly attributable to policies of the War on Poverty.
•In various skilled trades, the incomes of blacks relative to whites more than doubled between 1936 and 1959.
Source: Thomas Sowell (Hoover Institution), "A Painful Anniversary," Townhall.com, August 17 2004.

For more on Tax and Spending Issues:

www.ncpa.org

As for Mitt's plans--

Summary: Mitt Romney on the Economy

The private sector is where real job growth takes place, not government bureaucracies.

Unleashing the power of free markets is key to our economic prosperity.

Taxes should be lower for ALL Americans.

The death tax should be eliminated and Bush tax cuts made permanent.

Our corporate tax rate needs to be more competitive and business friendly.

The capital gains tax rate should be reduced to encourage investment.

A level-playing field for American products in foreign markets is necessary.

Creating good, lasting jobs will require the following:

•A tax policy that rewards savings, investment, entrepreneurial risk-taking and exports.

•Free, open and fair access to foreign markets, with a focus on constructive trade reform with China.

•Elimination of the federal bureaucratic and regulatory stranglehold on business.

•A market-driven energy policy that encourages investment in America and reduces our dependence on foreign oil.

•A commitment to fiscal responsibility through budget restraints and entitlement reform.” â€" 3/31/11 USA Today op-ed

He claims he wants to help middle America.

On one hand, he has a point.

For too long the emphasis has been on either the rich, or the poor.

The middle class has been overlooked for too long.

I'm eager to hear what he thinks he can do.

Yes, it sucks that the Chinese work more for less.

#164 | Posted by Eddie

Sucks for the freaking Chinese most of all.

Damn, your sort of stupidity is inspired. Can't be taught.

#166 | Posted by Zed

LOL!

F&ck you too.

Do you always call people stupid when they tell you the truth?

I really hate the Libbie's who would rather look the other way, raise our taxes and spend our children's money.

Please, go and be a moron somewhere else.

Given that the rightards have spent the last 3 years lying, misquoting or taking out of context stuff Obama has said, I'm sure they won't mind if the Dems do it to Rmoney.

#179 | Posted by northguy3

Link ?

What did Romney say, Obama has run out of promises and now hes out of excuses too.

You are one sad ass M.F. NORTHGUY3.

....NOPE IN NOVEMBER.....

Given that the rightards have spent the last 3 years lying, misquoting or taking out of context stuff Obama has said, I'm sure they won't mind if the Dems do it to Rmoney.

#179 | Posted by northguy3

Link ?

What did Romney say, Obama has run out of promises and now hes out of excuses too.

You are one sad ass M.F. NORTHGUY3.

....NOPE IN NOVEMBER.....

#184 | Posted by MENSAKOOK

Don't waste your time with this liar.

He's a coward and won't answer you.

The private sector is where real job growth takes place, not government bureaucracies.

blah blah blah. Means nothing.

Unleashing the power of free markets is key to our economic prosperity.

How?

Taxes should be lower for ALL Americans.

Sure, that will reduce the deficit.

The death tax should be eliminated and Bush tax cuts made permanent.

The first million is exempt. More free money for those who don't work for it. Save the rich. A free million isn't good enough. The Bush tax cuts are a major part of the deficit problem.

Our corporate tax rate needs to be more competitive and business friendly.

Bullshit--tax the hell out of companies that ship their jobs overseas, and reward those who bring the jobs home. Companies that ship jobs overseas are no better than foreign businesses.

The capital gains tax rate should be reduced to encourage investment.

Romney makes $57,000 a day. How much of that does he invest? Let's give him more seems wise to you?

A level-playing field for American products in foreign markets is necessary.

He doesn't say how. He has no plan.

Creating good, lasting jobs will require the following:
A tax policy that rewards savings, investment, entrepreneurial risk-taking and exports.

Which is what? The rich pay nothing, and the 47% pay it all? What tax plan? He has no plan.

Free, open and fair access to foreign markets, with a focus on constructive trade reform with China.

HOW. He has no plan.

Elimination of the federal bureaucratic and regulatory stranglehold on business.

How much rat shit are you willing to accept in your hot dogs? What regulations. He has no plan.

A market-driven energy policy that encourages investment in America and reduces our dependence on foreign oil.

Meaning what exactly. He has no plan.

A commitment to fiscal responsibility through budget restraints and entitlement reform.” â€" 3/31/11 USA Today op-ed

How exactly. What's the plan. What are the cuts. He has no plan.

#181 | Posted by MURPHY at 2012-02-01 10:02 PM | Reply | Flag

Obama----will raise taxes on rich.

Except he didn't, retard. So your end result with Romney and Obama is the same. Trillion dollar deficits, low taxes for the rich, and no end to either in sight.

Whether you think Obama wants to do something different is irrelevant. He doesn't do anything different.

I beg to differ buffalo boob.

His plan is to remove Obama, now that's a pretty good plan.
It covers all the problems and is a quick and immediate fix to the biggest problem we have (Other than you,that is)....OBAMA.

.....NOPE IN NOVEMBER......

It's Buffalo Bob, not Buffalo boob.

Just because his opinions may differ from yours....

Knobby ran out of steam. :(

"Mitt Romney and the Poor People's Safety Net Myth" (www.thedailybeast.com) summarized:

"Romney's claim that very poor Americans have a safety net is belied by the facts: jobless benefits and health insurance are limited, housing assistance has been reduced, and '˜welfare' has been devastated by budget cuts."

And:

"U.S. Census Bureau data showed that just over 46 million Americans, or 15.1 percent of the population, lived below the official poverty line."

Which makes even more rubbish of M'Lord's rubbish statement that what he calls "middle-income Americans" comprise 90-95% of the population.

Won't somebody get this empty vessel a clue card?

I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I'll fix it.

Emphasis Spud's.

Poor Mittens.

Still on the GOP nomination trail he is in an automatic bash-the-poor mode and can't really afford to give the more moderate answer for this he would have in the general without giving the Teatards another arrow in their quiver.

Sucks to be him.

Be Well.

/Pre-built cop out is pre-built.

Sometimes Willard looks so lifelike, almost human even. But, in the end, he's stuck in the Uncanny Valley (www.youtube.com).

"U.S. Census Bureau data showed that just over 46 million Americans, or 15.1 percent of the population, lived below the official poverty line."

Which makes even more rubbish of M'Lord's rubbish statement that what he calls "middle-income Americans" comprise 90-95% of the population.

Won't somebody get this empty vessel a clue card?

#191 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

LOL!!!

"Poverty Line"

What does that even mean?

When I was growing up, I lived below the poverty line most of my life and I didn't even know it. We all did.

I am now.

What does it mean? That you don't have enough food, clean water and shelter?

What?

If you can't answer or won't answer, does that make you an empty vessel?

From www.nytimes.com -

After two weeks of mean-spirited campaigning in Florida, where the Republican contenders jockeyed for the right-most flank of their party, maybe it should not have been shocking when Mitt Romney announced that he is "not concerned about the very poor."
...
The remark was in keeping with the callous tone of the campaign for the Florida primary....

Rather than repudiate such tactics, the lesson Mr. Romney took is that any line, no matter how brutal, is fair game if it brings a few more angry voters to your side. Of course, that didn't work too well for Mr. Gingrich, whose willingness to say virtually anything -- promising Cuban-Americans that he would start a violent uprising to overthrow the Castro regime, for instance -- left him without the support of a single demographic group.

When Mr. Romney descended into the mud with him, it soured many voters about the entire Republican field, according to several polls....

After winning on Tuesday, Mr. Romney said his campaign was "about saving the soul of America." If this is the direction he plans to take in the coming months, he will first need to save the soul of his campaign.

Do you always call people stupid when they tell you the truth?

#183 | Posted by Eddie at

That's the old self-retorting retort, EDDIE. You really would sell the executioner the rope he'd hang you with.

"Poverty Line"
What does that even mean?...
What does it mean?... shelter?
What?
If you can't answer or won't answer, does that make you an empty vessel?
#194 | Posted by Eddie

Empty vessel? Probably not. But the fact that you can't be bothered to look it up - the phrase used in the quote is "the official poverty line" -- speaks volumes.

"How exactly. What's the plan. What are the cuts. He has no plan."

#186 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2012-02-01 10:54 PM

GOOD JOB BOB!

Excellent point by point rebuttal of the Rmoney campaign fluff and stuff.

Willard reminds me of William Randolph Hearst. Another elite rich man who was not able to buy the presidency no matter how much money he spent on his campaign.

Willard reminds me of William Randolph Hearst. Another elite rich man who was not able to buy the presidency no matter how much money he spent on his campaign.

#198 | Posted by Monstman at 2012

And, furthermore, remembered as being the rich and manipulative bastard long after almost every other fact is forgotten concerning him.

A Clarification from Mitt Romney
About Poor People

LA JOLLA, CA (The Borowitz Report) – Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney today released the following letter to the American people:

Dear American People:

Yesterday, comments I made about poor people made me look terrible. This always seems to happen when I say what I really believe.

The fact is, I do care about poor people. That's because I'm poor myself, when you compare me to Mark Zuckerberg.

According to most projections, Facebook's IPO should net Mr. Zuckerberg a personal fortune of $28 billion. I couldn't make a pile of dough-re-mi like that even if I fired people twenty-four hours a day.

Now, let's take a look at Mitt Romney's net worth: a measly $200 million. Now do you see why I consider myself poor? Compared to Mark Zuckerberg, Mitt Romney is practically a crack whore.

Now, I'm not going to sit here and envy a rich person like Mark Zuckerberg. That's exactly what President Obama wants poor people like me to do. Mark Zuckerberg made his money fair and square, by creating useful products like imaginary sheep and angry birds. Say what you will about Facebook, it has totally revolutionized the way we waste our lives.

The fact is, if you're poor in America, you should do what Mark Zuckerberg did: create a social network. I've just started my own, called TwoFaceBook. With TwoFaceBook, your profile doesn't stay the same for more than two seconds.

In closing, there's one more reason I don't worry about poor people. They have Groupons.

Vote for me,

Mitt Romney
us.mg201.mail.yahoo.com

Anyone who believes this liar is crazy.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2012-02-01 12:34

so Im sure you join me in calling out people like the LYING fuck vandenjhoople who tweeted this but just happened to stop after she said romney isnt worried about poor people or the other goddamn democrat libfux who stop there.

problem is there are millions of obamadupes out there who only read scum like vandenhoople and think SHES telling the whole story...

BUT AS IMUS said this AM....he should never say something like he doesnt care about ANY GROUP cause barry can say he killed obama, saved gm, and can sing al green and millions of people will vote for him because of that....he's got a point.

#194 | Posted by Eddie

Empty vessel? Probably not. But the fact that you can't be bothered to look it up - the phrase used in the quote is "the official poverty line" -- speaks volumes.

#197 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Thank you. I understand that, I just wanted you to say it.

My point is that we've lost sight of what "officially in poverty" means.

might be good place for debate..not many countries have poor people with cars, big tv's, and buy tennis shoes for 250 bucks...

but thats okay cause its BARRY who defines GOOD rich people and BAD rich people.....so I guess he will do the same here...

I don't like Romney and he's a goof for giving the Left such ammunition, but I have a great deal more respect for him than I did before he actually said it.

I'm a Ron Paul supporter. He cured my apathy back in 2006 and I'm caucusing for him here in Colorado this and next weeks.

What Romney said made sense. It's true and rings true for the core section of Americans who still believe in the American Dream and are horribly frustrated that Washington is paying attention to Corporations that are too big to fail and to Unions that have outlived their usefulness and will soon be trying to raise taxes on the middle class without cutting the insane spending.

might be good place for debate..not many countries have poor people with cars, big tv's, and buy tennis shoes for 250 bucks...

but thats okay cause its BARRY who defines GOOD rich people and BAD rich people.....so I guess he will do the same here...

#203 | Posted by afkabl2

Who ever thought that Mitt would say something goofy and would start a conversation in America that would shake the Left to its core beliefs.

What the hell does "poor" mean?

Which post# ? No one offered to bet Herm. They accepted a bet that was never made. twit.

#172 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2012-02-01 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'll bet you a donation to your favorite baby killing factory that he doesn't.

#130 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at 2012-02-01 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Boob strikes again! Sucks being one of the 15% below the intellectual poverty line eh boob?

I'll bet you don't respond to this post with an acknowledgement of error. Any takers?

What the hell does "poor" mean?

#205 | Posted by Eddie

Damn Eddie!

still haven't quite got that Google thing figured out yet?

Here let me help you...go to google.com

step 1 you type in your question

Step 2 click search

lmgtfy.com

now you have to do some reading but its not rocket science ya know

#207 | Posted by donnerboy at 2012-02-02 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag: Only knows the liberal definition as defined by liberals in gubment

poor
adj
1.
a. lacking financial or other means of subsistence; needy

Again, poor for most of the world is Sally Struthers standing over you with a bowl of soup - the liberal definition is without high speed internet, and xbox360 and the newest iphone.

Of course liberals don't understand the definition of "poor" when it comes to most things - character, responsibility, morality all come to mind.

Romney does not care about you poor fkrs because he is richer than fk.

Gingrich is our only hope.

Romney does not care about you poor fkrs because he is richer than fk.

Gingrich is our only hope.

Oh wait, you're serious?

Be Well.

Paul Krugman's "Romney Isn't Cornered" (www.nytimes.com) is well worth reading.

"...[J]ust a few days ago, Mr. Romney was denying that the very programs he now says take care of the poor actually provide any significant help. On Jan. 22, he asserted that safety-net programs - yes, he specifically used that term - have "œmassive overhead," and that because of the cost of a huge bureaucracy “very little of the money that's actually needed by those that really need help, those that can't care for themselves, actually reaches them."

"This claim, like much of what Mr. Romney says, was completely false..."

(Krugman notes that the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities has found "between 90 percent and 99 percent of the dollars allocated to safety-net programs do, in fact, reach the beneficiaries.")

Krugman points out the safety net needs repair - "many people still fall through the cracks: among Americans with annual incomes under $25,000, more than a quarter - 28.7 percent - don't have any kind of health insurance. And, no, they can't make up for that lack of coverage by going to emergency rooms."

Of course, Romney would weaken that safety net, such as it is. He's bought into Paul Ryan's blarney and worse: "To the extent that Mr. Romney has differentiated his position from the Ryan plan, it is in the direction of even harsher cuts for the poor; his Medicaid proposal appears to involve a 40 percent reduction in financing compared with current law."

"So Mr. Romney's position seems to be that we need not worry about the poor thanks to programs that he insists, falsely, don't actually help the needy, and which he intends, in any case, to destroy."

"At this rate, we may soon have politicians who admit what has been obvious all along: that they don’t care about the middle class either, that they aren't concerned about the lives of ordinary Americans, and never were."

Thank you, Mr. Krugman, for putting it both starkly and succinctly.

If Klutzman says it, it has to be true, right, Doc? You still getting thrills up your leg over that shifty-eyed weirdo? Hell, you're probably sprouting woodies at the sight of his name by now.

"If Klutzman [Jest means 'Krugman' but he gets a woody thinking he's a real Yiddische speaker] says it, it has to be true, right, Doc?"

You got any facts and figures that undermine any of his contentions in the article?
*Sigh*
No, I didn't think so.
There's a consolation prize waiting for you on the way out.
Better luck next time.

"You got any facts and figures that undermine any of his contentions in the article?"

Actually, no...I'm still trying to digest his theory dealing with how we'll reach prosperity by borrowing and spending MUCH more. I can't deal with two of his "contentions" at any one time.

"[Jest means 'Krugman' but he gets a woody thinking he's a real Yiddische speaker]"

Not really, only Carla Bruni causes me to sprout instant woodies...although, I have to admit that Megyn Kelly has lately evoked some mysterious stirring within "The Monster."

Megyn Kelly?

The one I've seen on the tube is a bit too animatronic; I think it's in the eyes.

The one who posed with her tits hanging out - www.huffingtonpost.com - is a little too trailer park skanky for my taste.

But Carla Bruni...well, there's someone about whom we can find solid (and I do mean solid) agreement.

"The one who posed with her tits hanging out - www.huffingtonpost.com - is a little too trailer park skanky for my taste."

Jeez, Doc, I'm not talkin' about marrying her, having children and all that stuff. Besides, if you're going to practice "lust," you gotta have a gal that IS a little trailer park skanky. You gotta quit readin' that PuffPo rag and gettin' excited over Klutzman.

Well, the character of "Ava" on "Justified," for example: she's kinda trailer park skanky but if you're just thinking of the occasional huff-n-puff, well, there you go.

Mitt Romney may not care about her, but what does he know?

What the hell does "poor" mean?

#205 | Posted by Eddie
Damn Eddie!
still haven't quite got that Google thing figured out yet?
Here let me help you...go to google.com
step 1 you type in your question
Step 2 click search
lmgtfy.com

now you have to do some reading but its not rocket science ya know

#207 | Posted by donnerboy

It was a rhetorical question to fish out the Lefties who think they're smart enough to understand what's going on with they're Party.

This is why you keep losing elections.

So, Donner, since you are on the hook (you fucking moron) why don't you tell us what "poor" means.

The GOP has a Donnybrook of a primary season and what happens?

Party members' participation tanks.

Total turnout for primaries/caucuses in IO, NH, SC, FL is 4% less than four years ago.

"Total turnout for primaries/caucuses in IA, NH, SC, FL is 4% less than four years ago."

Four years ago repubs had nothing to look forward to, and were running as far away from Bush as possible. All they needed was Pelosi, Reid and then Obama to turn the trend around as per the 2010 midterms.

Lets see Poverty Line for family of 5 (my family) 27010 a year

Lets break that down to 2250.83 a month since most poor people do not have the luxury of an annual budget.

So now we have the target lets work on what that gets our family of 5

101.28 goes to SS taxes

800.00 goes to rent - now we have 5 people in 2 bedrooms so not much room but better than our grandparents one room houses

800.00 goes to food. It seems like a lot but remember this is 5 people for a month so we are only talking 1.78 per person per meal. This ain't gourmet.

150.00 for power yeah it shouldn't be that high but 800 bucks rent doesn't get you a high efficiency AC or good insulation.

100.00 for TV Phone Internet we are of course assuming you can get a bundle deal where you are. For those who say internet is not a necessity, well screw you in today's America just the money saved by not driving to pay your bills, pays for your internet. Also note TV is a luxury but phone bills 10 years ago were frequently more than the combined total for the 3 now In fact if you don't go with a triple play package you are probably paying more for just phone than a package pays for all three. Let the poor have their MTV.

120.00 for gas. This is a pretty low estimate it assumes a car with 25MPG (I don't know a single poor person with a car that new) and only 30 miles total driving a day.

50.00 for water just pulling this out my rear we spend closer to 100 but we have a teenage daughter and I love a long hot shower.

75.00 for gas, (this is an average based on my equal pay amount)

So for a grand total we get 2196.28 that leaves us with 54.55 a month for medical/dental/new shoes for the kids, new brakes for the car, vehicle tax on the car, clothes etc.

You say oh that's not so bad you got a roof over your head and food in your belly and heck even the luxury of tv and internet.

Of course those are the calculations from average. If you live somewhere slightly more than the average those numbers go out the window and you are screwed. Remember this average budget leaves you with 654.60 a year flex money so any one of the line items increasing minimally will well and truly screw you. Good luck with that sense of security.

Oh and you will note I used current SS tax of 4.5% not the 6.5%. That gave our budget the boost to have any extra money. Before that the extra was about 120 a year. I guess you are ok till the end of the month after that it goes back to 6.5 sorry folks.

BTW #222 is for you eddie since you seem to think poor means rich. Tell you what try living on the poverty line for a couple months then come back and tell us how good the poor have it.

BTW I do not argue that reform of the system is needed. Note the guy above is right on the poverty line so he doesn't get all the perks yet he is the one working. The perks go to those even poorer than him and that is why a working family of 5 will live worse off than a welfare mom of 4.

Which is my whole beef with the system and I think is more of what Romney was trying to get at. For the most part I agree with his statement (not sure I believe it but that is different). The poor are doing ok thanks to the safety net, yes there are holes in it that could be fixed but as a general statement it is true. The rich are doing famously so we don't have to worry about them. It is the middle class which needs help. That example, if he made 1 dollar more would be middle class yet I don't think that many would argue he has much of the American dream going for him.

BTW I do not argue that reform of the system is needed = BTW I do not argue that reform of the system is not needed

dang it 3 in a row now I am a spammer I'll stop now.

"The GOP has a Donnybrook of a primary season and what happens?
Party members' participation tanks."

most folks 'prolly like me. We're just waiting to go vote AGAINST Obammus Caesar.

BTW #222 is for you eddie since you seem to think poor means rich.
#223 | Posted by TaoWarrior

I didn't say that.

Your #222 did.

read it again. Seems that family lives much better than 95% of the world!


Tell you what try living on the poverty line for a couple months then come back and tell us how good the poor have it.

I have lived below the poverty line. We survived, my children got a good education and we had some really good times.

The thing is is that my kids can't tell the difference. It means something else to them.

Your problem is that you haven't defined what poor means. You've defined what the Left likes to describe as poverty, but what you described ain't poverty, is it?

Your problem is that I had a choice if I wanted to live in lack

All Americans have the some opportunities that I have. Sometimes that just make bad choices.

What I'm trying to say is that you are ignorant because you don't even know what poor (poverty) is.

Sorry to beat you up, but I did warn you.

I'm sure so many here care about the poor as long as someone else is doing something about it.

I'm sure so many here care about the poor as long as someone else is doing something about it.

#227 | Posted by MSgt at 2012-02-04 01:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

Good point. That's why the poor need government help. It is what makes us a great nation--feeding the poor, taking care of the aged and sick. Christian values you know nothing about.

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