Alia Hogben; Executive director of the Canadian Council of Muslim Women, chimes in ..

I have trouble with the word " honour killing " .. I prefer to call it " customary killing " since it maintains our patriarchal customs

Nazira Naz Tareen; Founder and past president, Ottawa Muslim Women's Organization

Since many Muslims read the Quaran in Arabic, they may actually become confused and misunderstand Sharia law

"Honor killings" are hardly confined to Islam. In fact, the practice almost certainly antedates the introduction of Islam and, indeed, Christianity. Consider, for example, "crimes of passion."

oddly, AP story omits any reference to the "Religious Code" from which the killers admittedly derived their authority to cleanse the family tree by killing
Posted by L_E_Light

But perhaps LeLite could enlighten us on this point?

AP story omits any reference to the "Religious Code"

Because there is no such religious code in the Koran.

Don't make shit up when you don't even know how your dad used to knock your mom all over place. Even that didn't come from the Koran.

"Honor killings" are hardly confined to Islam. In fact, the practice almost certainly antedates the introduction of Islam and, indeed, Christianity.

It's even older than that. Try Hinduism.

All the Hindu gods can't help you if you get involved with a girl/boy of a higher caste.

Or of you don't bring in the right amount of dowry (bride burning).

Or the Hindu custom of Sati where the widow burns herself with the husbands body to preserve the family "honor".

I believe India has the highest number of honor killings on Earth.

All cultures (except Scandinavians) have some form of honor killings/crimes, with women being on the receiving end mostly.

In Anglo-Saxon cultures, it's called "Crime of passion" and usually happens when husband walks in on wife in bed with pizza guy and then you can't tell apart pizza-guy from pizza (for example).

To be fair, India also has an enormous population.

LeLite's problem is that he's so ignorant about Islam, so fearful of it and hateful towards it, that his state of perpetual bewilderment overwhelms any - and it couldn't have been much to start with - sense of proportion...

#8 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

And all this time I thought it was just because he's a tard.

Ha!

You sure have a way of getting to the heart of the matter.

I'm still in a state of shock that something other than hockey and Baffin Island polar bear championship wrestling happened in Canada

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Yeah, I wouldn't go into detail on that BS statement either. Would that be considered not getting to the heart of the matter?

"All cultures (except Scandinavians) have some form of honor killings/crimes, with women being on the receiving end mostly.

In Anglo-Saxon cultures, it's called "Crime of passion" and usually happens when husband walks in on wife in bed with pizza guy and then you can't tell apart pizza-guy from pizza (for example)."

Yeah but those aren't socially accepted anymore. They are murders and people get locked up for them. There are very few places in the world where one can legitimately get away wih killing another person.

Consider, for example, "crimes of passion."

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I think that's a far stretch. IMO, "crimes of passion" are more or less heat of the moment killings. "Honor killings" are generally pre-meditated.

Not saying that the way things are reported (eg: a crime of passion undertaken by a muslim may be called an Honor Killing) is always correct though.

BTW, which is correct:
"a Hispanic"
"an Hispanic"

Yeah but those aren't socially accepted anymore. They are murders and people get locked up for them.

It is against the law everywhere. There is no place on earth that can claim religious sanction for such an act.

What Tim McVeigh did in Oklahoma.... that was an honor killing in his sick mind. He was retaliating for the dishonor done to the Waco people.

9-11 was also an honor killing in the sense that what a terrorist most wants, is "respect" even if that respect comes out of fear. They want to reach a big audience and today that is easy.

Ever wondered why before 24 hour news came along, there weren't that many terrorist incidents?

Ever wondered why before 24 hour news came along, there weren't that many terrorist incidents?

#18 | Posted by Tosser

Of course there were, they just weren't reported in the 30 minute Big 3 boradcasts.

That's like claiming there weren't white female teen abductions prior to Nancy grace.

In closing, you're a dummy.

In closing, you're a dummy.

No wheelchair.... there were less of them.

You have plenty of time sitting on your sorry ass to Google the internets.

Do some research and count the incidents starting from 1900.

Go.

In fact... moron in a wheelchair... let me help you and your sorry ass along.

BTW, which is correct:
"a Hispanic"
"an Hispanic"

#15 | Posted by 101Chairborne

A Hispanic is correct because your pronounce the H. Hispanic is not a Spanish, Castellano or Latin, word. Glad to help.

Crisis

Because there is no such religious code in the Koran.

Don't make shit up when you don't even know how your dad used to knock your mom all over place. Even that didn't come from the Koran.
#5 | Posted by Tosser

Women in Islam are regarded as sources of shame .. Muslim men have very low self esteem & compensate the smallness of their selfhood by inflating their ego

how can we trust your opinion, as you are encouraged to deceive us infidels?
ps - Doc don't count .. he became weak-minded during the 70's

On the bright side, they are all going to prison.

yet your devout Canada bro wiped out his entire stable of 3-daughters and 1/2 of his all his wives

1. Not my "bro".

2. Certainly not "devout".

how can we trust your opinion

How can we trust yours? That of an infidel?

My response was not for you... I recognize you for the idiot you are.... my response for whoever wants to check.

Find me that part of the Koran that sez, you must "honor kill" your women.

You can't.

So whatever I say, can be checked and verified.

Whatever you say, can be torn down in seconds.

And at the end of the day.... it happened in Canada.

Who gives a fuck?

Find me that part of the Koran that sez, you must "honor kill" your women.
You can't.
So whatever I say, can be checked and verified.
Whatever you say, can be torn down in seconds.
#26 | Posted by Tosser

Yeah, this one is a huuuuge topic of conversation up here in the GWN.

Not particularly controversial though.

These actions have been universally scorned and rejected across the board.

One of the few things everyone can agree on, actually.

There is no honor in honor killings.

The entire idea needs to disappear.

Be Well.

If one chooses to live in Canada, Denmark, Egypt, Pakistan, China, or Fiji, one must adapt to the laws of Canada, Denmark, Egypt, Pakistan, China, or Fiji. It's as simple as that.

If you can't afford to do the time, etc.

BTW, which is correct:
"a Hispanic"
"an Hispanic"

#15 | Posted by 101Chairborne

neither, the correct spelling is "a spic"

jeeeess just joking!

Mr Toss ..I checked ..
I verified that according to Tosser either 1.5 Billion Muslims misunderstand OR all y'all are deceiving yet again?
Surah XXII.9
Surah XLVII.4
Surah V.75
Surah IV.157

#28 | Posted by L_E_Light

smite is kind of a gay way of saying kill

just saying

The sad thing is that the killing is dishonorable. Where do people get these ridiculous memes? How can we stop them?

According to LeLite (#28) the following excerpts from the Koran...

Surah XXII.9
[(Disdainfully) bending his side, in order to lead (men) astray from the Path of Allah: for him there is disgrace in this life, and on the Day of Judgment We shall make him taste the Penalty of burning (Fire).]

Surah XLVII.4
[Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.]

Surah V.75
[Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!]
Surah IV.157

...all refer to honor killing women.

LeLite: Have you ever considered changing your moniker to "LeDimBulb"?

You should.

Thanks Doc... I was a second away from copy pasting all the references he mentioned, giving myself my second migraine today, but you did it instead of me.

And as for you... Asshole... WHERE does it say in those verses that "we should honor kill our women"???

LE-Light... you have just proven to me and everyone else what a stupid fellow you are... or an outright liar. But then why lie when one can check the Koran so easily (it's online).

Leaving the conclusion, you is DUMB.

This is what happened when you copy/paste your crap from "jihadwatch". LOL

They don't even keep track of their own lies.

"There are very few places in the world where one can legitimately get away wih killing another person."

Unless you are a hired gun in Iraq. Then, as long as you don't end up dangling from a bridge, it's all good.

Ah yes, another wonderful family we liberated from those crazy talibanners.

In the west, "honor" killings typically involve alcohol, a divorce, a trailer park and a 12 gauge.

dishonor killing.

these people bring nothing but disgrace to their family, their culture and their religion.

disgusting.

My first instinct is that the son committed the murders. This scenario has also been an episode of Law & Order, if I recall.

Defense lawyers said the deaths were accidental. They said the Nissan car accidentally plunged into the canal after the eldest daughter, Zainab, took it for a joy ride with her sisters and her father's first wife. Hamed said he watched the accident, although he didn't call police from the scene.

All cultures (except Scandinavians) have some form of honor killings/crimes, with women being on the receiving end mostly.
In Anglo-Saxon cultures, it's called "Crime of passion" and usually happens when husband walks in on wife in bed with pizza guy and then you can't tell apart pizza-guy from pizza (for example).
#7 | Posted by Tosser at 2012-01-31 08:10 AM

Even through the middle ages the two more common form of vendetta would be burning residents inside of their house or the use of poison. The Scan are some of the more civilized White people on the planet now.

I was going to post something regarding the Afghani honor killings and particularly treating women as livestock in the thread where the woman who birthed a girl was murdered for it. You can still see the genetic remnants of a great ancient Scythian society - the red and blond hair, blue eyes, fair skin. These were a people almost unknown to modern archeology other than through Greek historians, originally predating Egypt's pharaohs. All we have left are tombs, mummies and some undeciphered script of these early people - who appear to uphold women as equal to men. They wore "male" clothing, used "male" tools and had "male" jobs, alongside the men. Presumably, they were land-owners, warriors and leaders from their mummification and the writings of Homer and Herodotus. How ironic the current "modern" population have devolved so dramatically.

**** Murdering women and children.. and then lying about it...bestows "HONOR" upon you in Islam?

#41 | Posted by AntiCadillac

I assume the murdering gets you the honour, and the lying is to try to stay out of prison.

**** Murdering women and children.. and then lying about it...bestows "HONOR" upon you in Islam?
#41 | Posted by AntiCadillac

.......yes......

......more proof that all religions are false religions.........

bestows "HONOR" upon you in Islam?

This guy a Muslim too?

Good to see you back around again, Tosser. Now stay out of trouble! : )

"This guy a Muslim too?"

Perhaps Poindexter(d) can explain why he would be?

Good to see you back around again, Tosser.

Thank you.

Now stay out of trouble! : )

Hard to do when Trouble is your middle name.

Perhaps Poindexter(d) can explain

Talking about your fantasy playmate again, shit-for-brains? LOL

I checked. The Retort has no member called "Poindexter".

Why are you making up people and pretending to talk to them?

POINDEXTER

Private E-mail
No Home Page

Joined 2011/06/07
Visited 2012/01/29

Status: visitor

Be Well.

"I checked. The Retort has no member called "Poindexter".
Why are you making up people and pretending to talk to them?"
#48 | Posted by Tosser at 2012-02-02 02:19 AM

"I remember talking to this Poindexter."
#44 | Posted by Tosser at 2012-01-29 02:48 AM

Tosser is both a liar and a fool. And Poindexter, of course.

Yes, but I remember talking to a Poindexter a long time ago.

However, right now, there is no such person registered as a member of the Retort. LOL

You just can't handle truth and logic can you, shit-for-brains?

So stop pretending to have fantasy playmates.

Canadian! LOL

Yes, but I remember talking to a Poindexter a long time ago.

He was here 3 days ago.

POINDEXTER
Private E-mail
No Home Page
Joined 2011/06/07
Visited 2012/01/29

You are terrible at this.

Be Well.

He was here 3 days ago.

But I never talking to him 3 days ago, you stupid retard. LOL

When did I say I did?

You are terrible at this.

Sez a retard from Canada. LOL

I just checked, seeing your other retarded mutt is making such a noise over it, and saw a canceled account.

So you can have jizz in your pants over discovering a canceled account... or move on with your miserable lives as a potato and a mutt.

Tosser cancels his Poindexter(d) account?

Priceless.