Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, January 25, 2012

In his third State of the Union address, President Barack Obama called keeping alive the American dream "the defining issue of our time" and pledged to fight obstruction by congressional Republicans. "We can either settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well, while a growing number of Americans barely get by," he said. "Or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules."

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I keep reading SOTU as STFU.

"Change takes time and it's all Bush's fault. The republicans hate you."

There. Now you don't have to watch.

I wish he would. He has plenty of time for this stump speech.

"You Lie!!!"

Sorry, just practicing.

I hear his aides are concerned that he hasn't stopped laughing since Noot (rhymes with "Loot") won South Carolina.

Fourth post. Fourth and final SOTU for #44...

The state must not be so great. No large font and dancing bananas (yet).

I hear his aides are concerned that he hasn't stopped laughing since Noot (rhymes with "Loot") won South Carolina.
#5 | Posted by Corky at 2012-01-24 08:06 PM |

You hear a lot of stuff stuck to Obama's ass...

I heard Michelle is pissed. She's sitting with Mrs. Buffett and doesn't understand why there isn't a place setting and towellets.

8 whole posts until the 3rd grade taunt.

Could be a record.

Corky's got a boo boo.

Um... it's his THIRD.

He just finished three years of presidenting.

#9 Wisgod, that's Buffett, not buffet!

Let him talk, at this point in the game any one still voting for Obama
in November would vote for him even if he got on the TV and said he was full of S- - t from day one.
It's their vote let them cast it as they see fit.

It's every one else that we need to be concerned with, the people that got fooled by the Democrats and Obama last time.
Obama has accomplished nothing but more debt with the promise of even more debt to come as the only way out of America's problems.

His speech will be about what he is GOING to do (Like last election) not what he has done, which is nothing.
Just like he has done in every elected office he has held... nothing.

If people want their lives back as far as jobs and Obama's idea of Big Govt. gone, an idea that stands in the way of every business in America this guy Obama has got to go.

"Remember a Government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have"

For Obama to give you anything he first must take it from somebody else, what makes you think your not that somebody else that it will be taken from.

Don't vote for Obama vote for yourselves.

.....NOPE IN NOVEMBER.....

"Obama has accomplished nothing but more debt with the promise of even more debt to come..."

Debt will start to come down once the deficit is less than zero.

You see that happening in the next decade or two, do you?

I heard some previews. He's finally ready to win the future!
No really, he means it this time.
He's got a plan to move us forward.
It's really going to happen.
We're going to drive out of the ditch.
Hope and Change!
Yes we can!
Cream you jeans.

#9 Wisgod, that's Buffett, not buffet!

#13 | Posted by Petrous

Shut yo mouth! Dey said Buffett. Dat be french fo eats, no? -M.O.

Most people would rather get a root canal without novocaine than hear another Obama speech.

1 minute. Don't hurt your elbows libtards!

Um... it's his THIRD.

Really? What happened in 2009? I fucked that up.

Corky, got your Jerkins Lotion ready?

Blah blah blah, class warfare, blah blah blah, 'fairness' (pfffft, what a DICK), blah blah blah, where is Reggie I'm lonely and horny.

State of the Unicorn - Hussein '12

I'm ready when you are.

I predict I will hate Obama 1% more after this speech, then I do right now.

#18 | Posted by fwthom

Beats the hell out of another Republican debate.

Obama's a pussy!

American Values. Shit, I've only got a 30-pack!

our Nation has serious problems. Inflation and unemployment are unacceptably high. The world oil market is increasingly tight. There are trouble spots throughout the world.

However, I firmly believe that, as a result of the progress made in so many domestic and international areas over the past four years, our Nation is stronger, wealthier, more compassionate and freer than it was four years ago.

almost all of our comprehensive energy program have been enacted, and the Department of Energy has been established to administer the program; confidence in the government's integrity has been restored, and respect for the government's openness and fairness has been renewed;

the minimum wage was increased to levels needed to ease the effects of inflation;

affirmative action has been pursued aggressively; more blacks, Hispanics and women have been appointed to senior government positions and to judgeships than at any other time in our history;

the peace process in the Middle East established at Camp David and by the Peace Treaty between Egypt and Israel is being buttressed on two fronts: steady progress in the normalization of Egyptian-Israeli relations in many fields, and the commitment of both Egypt and Israel, with United States' assistance, to see through to successful conclusion the autonomy negotiations for the West Bank and Gaza;

en.wikisource.org's_Fourth_State_of_the_Union_A
ddress

Forget I said that; we don't have to spot Eric Cantor's mug in the R debates.

If I want to see a prick, I rather watch a porno movie.

Rcade - Gringrich's face is unbearable.

Why did they all bring ropes?

Obama's color looks bad.....seriously. wtf, does he have jaundice?

I rather watch a porno movie.#30 | Posted by Ray

You are "The Screwing of America" staring Barry O

Yes, there's a lot we don't understand about the GOP

By James Carville and Paul Begala, CNN Contributors

www.cnn.com

hahaa!

#32 | Posted by eberly

He's half white, give the guy a break.

If Obama brings up this woman and her foreclosure her is what they are not telling you:

"The reality behind the often reported story of an ACORN member who is part of the San Francisco Occupy movement is far more complex than the mainstream press has told the public. Donna Vieira, a frequent spokesman for the 99% who tells the heartrending tale of having her home foreclosed on, is actually referring to a second home in another state that she and her husband paid nearly $750,000 for."

"Nobody is going after the big banks. And loss and pain and suffering doesn't matter to the regulators," Vieira said."

"the home was foreclosed on in Reno was not the Vieira family's place of residence. It was, in fact, a second home of the family, who actually live in San Leandro, a medium-size residential community just across the bay from San Francisco."

"Apparently it wasn't hardship on the part of the Vieiras family. They simply stopped making payments to Wells Fargo because they felt that an appraisal conducted by an independent firm was "fraudulent."

"While boasting about the couple's "near perfect credit score," the article also reveals the fact that the family sends their son to private school, despite the good public schools in the area.
"We can't send Leo [to the public school], because I don't have the time to help him with his homework or to track his progress in school," she said."

"both Donna Vieira and her husband areâ€"wait for itâ€"licensed real estate appraisers. The court also points out that the contested appraisal was performed four months after the Vieira family had already entered into a contract to buy the home. Both the Vieiras also testified that they did not rely on the appraisal when they agreed to buy the house for $715,000 because they had experience in valuing real estate and believed the asking amount was fair. They never even inquired about the results of the appraisal in question until a year after escrow closed on the house.
The “Faces of Foreclosure” article puts the value of the house at $565,000, but the district court documents says that the Vieiras agreed to pay $715,000."

bigjournalism.com

This woman is a perfect example of what's wrong with America!

And to think Obama wants to buy votes by paying off $20,000.00 of these mortgages with money collected by taxes from those that struggle to actually pay their mortgages.

Kagan looks like a fat Racheal Dratch.

Boehner said, 'Only one more to go after this.'

"Really? What happened in 2009?"

Inaugural?

Obama's a pussy!

#26 | Posted by dnmxt at 2012-01-24 09:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

????

ok.

Thank Christ they had the good sense to not seat Sonia Sotomayor in the balcony.

Did anyone make sure that Biden got his No-doze?

Frakkin' Noot was holding up traffic in downtown Naples this afternoon.

The R Paul kids had so many signs around his rally in the park, though, that it looked more like a Paul rally.

I can tell he's lying his lips are moving.

Is Boner always tanked or does he just always look like he is?

Since they tax Unemployment benefits of people who used to have a job, maybe hes going to announce that they are going to tax the welfare benefits of the people who never had a job to correct the inequities in the tax structure.

Yea right......da be racciss.

......NOPE IN NOVEMBER.....


Really? What happened in 2009? I fucked that up.

#20 | POSTED BY RCADE

Hope that didn't sound too cocky, RCADE. I had to rethink that three times when I read the headline.

Or four.

Nobody gives a shit about your Grandfather.

here comes the class warfare

Everyone DOES play by the same rules O'Bugger. You just might not like the rules.

Yep. Take from the rich and give to his constituents.

It's popular to be cynical and dis the whole idea of the American dream, to give up on it ever being made even a little more true, often without a fight.

3 million jobs in Brazil and China

Nobody gives a shit about your Grandfather.

#48 | Posted by wisgod at 2012-01-24 09:15 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

That's only because you can't use it against him, cracker.

Build on this momentum? Are you fucking nuts?

www.whitehouse.gov

Watch it live here.

That's only because you can't use it against him, cracker.

#54 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

Shut up, you race baiting cunt. I'm listening to greatness.

here comes the class warfare

#49 | POSTED BY PANEOCON AT 2012-01-24 09:16 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

what else is new?

Oops. Missed it.

Oh, it hasn't aired yet?

I wonder if Obama will mention Solyndra?

Thanks to the work by Scott Walker in making WI viable again

He is such a dipshit.

Yes, Business Leaders. Solve my problem.

Wow, Kerry looks like shit..

@58
Your remarkable level of ignorance?

Damn, this shits on every channell!

Can't they at least black it out in the red states.

RutRow GE is going to be cranky

3 million jobs--what is the guy smoking?

RutRow GE is going to be cranky

#67 | Posted by paneocon

They've been exempt for the last 3 years.

He wants to hand out 1st place ribbons to everyone because it is only FAIR!!!!!!!!!!

Damn sounds like what Alabama is doing to create jobs in their state.

Government this, government that. Govy is always the answer.

Can't they at least black it out in the red states.

LOL

So what is he going to do to stop business from going oversea's? Secure the border?

In this thread: whiny bitches.

More bureaucrats?

Woopee a new Czar, bigger gov.

more spending in education.

God forbid.

And Jackie has 17 children.

Is that Michelle's smile?

WEEEE more spending!!!

A chicken in every pot, a vibrator in every pussy!

Obama is just pulling this out of his ass.

'2 million jobs, uh yea, THAT'S the ticket!'

I thought you Libs had a problem with tax cuts and increased spending or is that only when a Republican does it?

Hey!

Did Biden go to sleep?

He said 3 million Rex!

Biden is picking his nose

And besides the Teachers union gives me a crap load of Cash

Good luck with the school unions on that promise

He needs to keep away from teachers. Bad argument. We need to get rid of bad teachers. Especially the union..

Ah, yes. Teachers, I got yo back.

Dull dull dull

Why didn't Republicans stand up for replacing teachers who don't help kids learn?

Harry Reid looks like a pedo.

Not allowed to drop out?

Until 18 ??

Forced indoctrination.

He needs to stop about the states, that's none of his business.

Forced education, well there goes the constitution under the bus.

Hardly any of the Dems stood up for that Rcade.

In fact Arne Duncan didn't even stand up

Yep, deport them...and dont let them in..

The illegal crossings are down because there are no jobs

He's putting them on notice. He's got more brass than than the Hicksville Fire Department.

Stand up McCain!

Forced education, well there goes the constitution under the bus.

Right, cause truancy laws don't exist already.

The reason there are less crossings is the economy dummy

Amnesty is now a non starter...

104 | Posted by ness_gadol

You do understand that there is a diference between federal law and state and local law?

Umm...we've had mandatory schooling for many years. I don't agree that kids should be allowed to drop out at 16, that's financial suicide frankly.

Joe, you idiot. The ear wax can wait.

The bills have been passed they are in Harry Reids' desk drawer--
Talk to his bony butt

#109 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

but how do you really feel :-)

American Made energy--except for Keystone

Everyone DOES play by the same rules O'Bugger. You just might not like the rules.

Which is why Romney is worth a quarter of a billion and still pays a 15% tax rate?

You might not know the rules, Hugenut, or much else but your ignornace does not reality make.

K?

Be Well.

/Gawd, Republicans are stupid.
//Yes, realize a lot of that is inculcated.
///But the rest is a personality flaw.

This is an election speech..

What a bullshitter!

You do understand that there is a diference between federal law and state and local law?

What state doesn't require basic education?

bovine fecal matter

#104 | Posted by ness_gadol

Ness-some of the graduation rates are 50% in some parts of the country

Mitch Mconnell looks like a pedo

Except nuclear.

This is an election speech..

Yeah, I heard that from Hannity today as well.

lol, misspelled "ignorance".

Rule 2, biatches!

:>P

Be Well,

#117 | Posted by ness_gadol

The federal government can't force you to go to school. It's not in the good and plenty clause.

Hope all you left wingers are watching Obama's last state of the union.

Why didn't Republicans stand up for replacing teachers who don't help kids learn?

#94 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2012-01-24 09:33 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

If anything the last three years have shown, is that even ideas they used to support will be kicked to the curb if Obama proposes it.

The batteries are made in China

Can't he tell the truth on anything?

Harry Reid looks like a pedo.

Mitch Mconnell looks like a pedo

POSTED BY REXZEITGEIST | REPLY | FLAG: Takes one to know one.

Mr. President. Make some fucking sense. Energy isn't it.

Here comes the Green Jobs. Can't wait for the fact check on this one.

#114 | Posted by dethspud

Spud, you just look stupid with comments like that.

Take a guess what Kerry pays on his capital gains, or Nancy Pelosi, or Obama's buttboy Warren Buffet.

But, of course, you are ignorant.

The federal government can't force you to go to school. It's not in the good and plenty clause.

That whooshing sound is the point going over your head. Or a drone strike.

YES!!

Obama will spend billions to see the solydra's of the world go bk and not pay one dime back of taxpayer money.

Deth,
Invest your money the same way that Romney invests it and you will pay the same taxes that he does.

Obama on fire.

Crisis

Joe, you idiot. The ear wax can wait. -- #110 | Posted by wisgod

He's been a distraction since the very first minute. You'd think he'd know by now that he's on camera.

John Chu looks like a pedo.

"I will not walk away from the promise of clean energy."

Amen to that, Mr. President.

Doubled the use of renewables?

Sweet.

Green energy *is* the future.

Either you can see this clearly or you are a fucking moron.

Be Well.

#131 | Posted by RexZeitgeist

Be easy on spud, they still have a queen in Canada

Climate change?!?!?!

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAA
AA

Uh yea, 3 million homes, THAT'S the ticket!

Boner looks drunk. How many Rob Roy's at lunch today?

What is he going to do on clean energy?

The Navy is going to buy ethonal??

They going to put sun panels onthe deck??

Big Oil bash. No surprise.

Crisis

Obama will spend billions to see the solydra's of the world go bk and not pay one dime back of taxpayer money.

If we don't subsidize startups in green energy, China and the rest of the world will own the industries it spawns.

To power 3M homes? Christ. This guy is really something.

I will invest in more failed green energy projects and Crony capitalism.

Infrastructure....

#146 | Posted by rcade

Cause it worked so well in Spain

China and the rest of the world will own the industries it spawns.

That's okay so long as the welfare flows to the oil industry.

Hey Obama, you want to keep globowarming down?

Have your fucking wife take the same 757 you do.

This is one of the few times that I am glad that I am stuck at work...doesn't seem like I am missing anything new.

Deth,
Invest your money the same way that Romney invests it and you will pay the same taxes that he does.

LOL, so you are one of those typical Repub fools who cheers on regressive class warfare in terms of the rich paying less than the middle class not because it will actually benefit you right now but because you figure one day you might be in their shoes.

Such a useful idiot.

*back to debate*

Pay down the debt and do some nation building?

Hey, there's an idear.

Be Well.

Nation building as long as it doesn't involve a pipeline, oil rig or mine.

Anyone who has spent time in Europe knows that the infrastructures in the US are joke. Funding, from where? Too big a hole to get out.

Crisis

Geithner looks like a elf pedo.

This debate is getting dull. When is Ron Paul going to be asked a question?

Play by the rules top to bottom? Is he running for his for his term?

We want Calista!

Oh, snap! Bush. Drink 3.

Guaranteed re-financing at decent "historically low" rates?

Yeah, that'll score some points.

Shoulda have been done earlier, in fact.

Wow, it's so weird listening to someone talk about solutions rather than just whining and biatching like the GOP candidates have been doing.

Day and farking night, people.

500 reforms?

LOL. spilled milk joke!

Be Well.

Extreme Lieberman closeup!

Milk was like oil. WTF?

Michelle is doing arm curls.

We are in the Repubs favorite area: regulations. Spilled milk joke bombed.

Crisis

What's with this 'women' thing?

Did Obama accidentally get a speech about sufferage?

I wonder if that risky bank thing applies to MF global

Republicans do not have a sense of humor.

"Milk was like oil. WTF?"

Fucker stole that from Ray Nagin...

No more bailouts. Yeah right.

Crisis

Cordray looks like his michelle just died.

@154
I'm just not jealous.

Obama: Millions of Americans who work hard & play by the rules every day deserve a government & a financial system that does the same.

Hard to argue with that.

"Not Bailing You Out Ever Again"?

Noice.

The corporately corrupted Congress is having a hard time with this but he's winning some of them over it seems.

^__^

Be Well.

Holder will look great in a prison jump suit.

Time for the obligatory big bank bashing. Up next, Corporate Greed and Exec Pay.

Crisis

Cantor has a creepy smile.

#175 | Posted by RexZeitgeist

FF agreed

So 3 years after the housing crisis, he's gonna do something with Holder. I'll bet Danni will sleep like a rock tonight.

"Fuck the GOP tax hike on the middle class" gets a SO.

Damn well better.

Who's Spud kidding the GOP fookers are still holding it hostage like the terrorists they are.

Be Well.

Haven't watched any of it----is it over yet?

Buffet Rule FTW.

Be Well.

It's called CAPITAL GAINS ass hole!@!@!!

If Obama lets this speech run over into U.S. women's soccer I'm voting Republican.

A strong military--he just cut a billion dollars!

LOL points at Congress for not paying their fair share as well as himself.

Noice.

Be Well.

Warren Buiffet's secretary pays the same amount on her long term capital gains as Warren Buffett does, you fricking dipshit.

#184 | Posted by rcade

Where's the loyalty and the love?

OK, so I missed the Millionaire Bashing. Oh shit. Buffet is a Democrat. There goes the funding.

Crisis

It is class warfare, don't let the door hit your skinny ass on the way out.

It's still called CAPITAL GAINS !@!@!!

Everyone should be taxed the same rate

Take ALL the money from people making more than a million a year. It won't make a difference.

More libtard porn.

class warfare will destroy this country..

Why not lower everyone to 15% ??

The millionaire paid 35% when he earned the money and invested it and is now paying 15% more.

Mitt, are you watching?

Crisis

The in pattern Biden's tie is making me dizzy.

Most Americans are thinking they can wait for you to be tossed out of power.

I wish I was rich enough to be hurt by Obama's tax reform.

no more capital gains deduction it will reduce our deficit and make us a third world country. Mission accomplished

Romney's 14% was still more in taxes than almost anyone on this board combined.

How much longer is this going to last?

Crisis

3 years later and ban insider trading? What the fuck have you done in the last 3?

"Asking a billionaire to pay as much as his secretary in taxes" =/= Class Warfare.

In fact, allowing that to continue is to allow class warfare.

Common sense in most of the rest of the world but not so much in the US where it's sophisticated propaganda system keeps the populace asking the wrong questions most of the time.

Man, Spud is beginning to see wot Obama 2.0 is gonna look like if he's re-elected.

Spud likey.

The obstructionism needs to fucking end, this is true.

Too bad some morons still cheer that shiat on.

Be Well.

A strong military--he just cut a billion dollars!

#185 | Posted by MURPHY

A whole billion? How will they ever manage?

Geez Ruth looks like she is asleep

Warren Buiffet's secretary pays the same amount on her long term capital gains as Warren Buffett does, you fricking dipshit.

Secretaries aren't earning investment income.

Actually it might be a trillion

Spud likey.

Posted by dethspud
Spud likey talk like child. I wonder why?

Romney's 14% was still more in taxes than almost anyone on this board combined.

Of course it was, because he's become incredibly rich in this country. Maybe it's time people like him pitched in more to pay down the deficit and ensure the continued prosperity of the country.

So then it's settled drop everyone to the rate of 15% !!

@207
Prove it. No secretary has investments?

Yeah --more appointments without senate

More lawsuits against the states

More NLRB actions against businesses

More president executive orders for willy-nilly

#212 | Posted by Huguenot

Not under obamanomics. they get a EBT card instead.

@210
You could take all his money and it wouldn't make a difference. Face it, the middle and bottom needs to cut back. either through higher taxes or less services.

"There is nothing that America cannot achieve". Cheap applause.

Crisis

Buffett's secretary has investments

She had to pay her 28% on the income

Just like Romney did when he earned the money as income.

Romney's 14% was still more in taxes than almost anyone on this board combined.

If the fact that some people on this planet will make more in a single day than you and your entire family will make in their entire lives working hard every day doesn't disturb you then you aren't entirely sentient.

You are White Knighting a class of people that don't need your help.

Yes, you've been trained to do this by a conservative media that treats you like Pavlov treated his dogs but it still sucks to watch you cut your hold your master's jacket and make excuses for him while he cornholes every member of your family.

Have you no self respect, man?

No pride at all?

Be Well.

Prove it. No secretary has investments?

No. How much investing do you think a secretary does on, say, a $30,000 salary? Capital gains cuts are predominantly a tax giveaway to the rich.

Buffett’s Burlington Northern Among Winners From Keystone Denial

Warren Buffett’s Burlington Northern Santa Fe LLC is among U.S. and Canadian railroads that stand to benefit from the Obama administration’s decision to reject TransCanada Corp. (TRP)’s Keystone XL oil pipeline permit.

With modest expansion, railroads can handle all new oil produced in western Canada through 2030, according to an analysis of the Keystone proposal by the U.S. State Department.

www.bloomberg.com

Secretaries aren't earning investment income.

#207 | Posted by rcade

Rogers, do you want to revise that comment?

Smartest woman in the world.

Just like Romney did when he earned the money as income.

A lot of Romney's capital gains were generated from capital he didn't invest personally. It was sneaky investment banker accounting.

Mostly he's pissing Congress off here, you can tell.

"Won't let Iran get the Bomb' gets the obligatory SO.

Israel bona fides?

Interesting.

Be Well.

Spud, you should see if Obama wants to run for mayor of Canada next, he will have plenty of free time pretty soon.

#223 | Posted by rcade

Did Mitt own the money he invested? if so then he paid taxes on the earnings one way or another.

#223 | Posted by rcade

Did Mitt own the money he invested? if so then he paid taxes on the earnings one way or another.

"America is back" gets a more tepid response than it should.

Be Well.

"Indispensable nation"

*drink*

Be Well.

#225 | Posted by RexZeitgeist

Queen Obama? They would demand the birth certificate first.

Obligatory SO for the troops.

Be Well.

If it was only even a slight possibility that the insider trading exclusion for congress would ever be delivered to Obama's desk to sign.

If it ever did, Obama would have to give up his soul in exchange.

Stronger ties with Europe then ever? Really! With all that previous isolationist talk. Sorry Barry, American influence has been shattered and beaten.

Crisis

Did Mitt own the money he invested?

No. That's not how Bain worked. It wasn't just a bunch of guys pooling their money and investing it.

seriously....what is wrong with Kerry. He looks horrible.

VA spending up every year?

Good to here.

Dems have always been the ones who really support the troops despite all rhetoric to the contrary.

GOP always pay lip service to them in public and then vote to take their funds away.

The GOP's "support of the military" pretty much stops with the MIC.

Be Well.

#235 | Posted by eberly

Te'rAza has some sharp knees.

Right, here we go with the 'I got Osama meme'.

here = hear

Way to frame the OBL kill as a triumph of co-operation over politics.

"Every one did their jobs"

Be Well.

Have you no self respect, man?

No pride at all?

well, he hasn't stooped to being a liberal if that's what you are saying.

#234 | Posted by rcade

and they took profits on those projects and paid the the taxs based on their bracket,35% now. Then Mitt invested the money he paid income tax on and took capital gains on the profit or loss.

#236 | Posted by dethspud

Sounds like you have a vast body of knowledge on US veteran affairs.

C'est fini.

Crisis

A lot of Romney's capital gains were generated from capital he didn't invest personally. It was sneaky investment banker accounting.

#223 | Posted by rcade

So sneaky it's legal!!

You are White Knighting a class of people that don't need your help.

You are puffing on a guy who doesn't need your's.

and now after our regularly scheduled State of the Union we can go back to back biting and grid lock.

""There is nothing that America cannot achieve". Cheap applause."

Do people watch these propaganda fests? Regardless of who is the President, these things are about as informative as some rant by whoever is the crazy dictator of the moment in North Korea.

Best SOTU he's ever done.

Hard headed, practical, hitting all the right notes.

Nice the way he called Congress out to their faces there.

Now wot? Mitch Daniels doing the traditional STFU after the SOTU?

*YAWN*

Be Well.

-It was sneaky investment banker accounting.

translation....I have no idea how any of it works.

Sebilius perfomed 3 abortions during the speech, then Pelosi wiped the placenta on her stretch marks.

seriously....what is wrong with Kerry. He looks horrible.

He broke his noses and got two black eyes playing hockey.

So sneaky it's legal!!

Legal because of Wall Streeters gaming the system.

-It was sneaky investment banker accounting.

Capitalist VooDoo

seriously....what is wrong with Kerry. He looks horrible.

#235 | Posted by eberly

He had some 'work' done

hillbuzz.org

translation....I have no idea how any of it works.

If you can explain it better, be my guest.

I wonder if they will air the Tea Party response. Herman Cain is going to deliver it...

Regardless of who is the President, these things are about as informative as some rant by whoever is the crazy dictator of the moment in North Korea.

You didn't actually watch it did you?

The speech was full of specifics.

Well, America you have a clear choice this November.

A choice forward that might avoid the mines in the field you find yourselves in or simple batshiat crazy class warfare and war with Iran.

Intelligence test.

Hope ya pass.

GL.

Be Well.

Remember when Bush would walk off after his STOU speeches?

He was a rock star, everyone mobbed him to get autographs.

-If you can explain it better, be my guest.

I'm not the one whining about it.

Hell of a good speech.

As has been proven by the Endless Klown Kar Debates, Republicans simply don't have anyone to compete with Obama for Indie swing-voters.

He broke his noses ...

Correction: He broke his nose. Kerry just has one.

He had some 'work' done

hillbuzz.org

#253 | Posted by MURPHY

You're pathetic, Murphy. That's about as credible as your "Whitey tape" you never produced.

#251 | Posted by rcade

That would be crony capitalism and I blame the politicians on that. A thief steals, a dog bites, a banker or lawyer cheats. these are laws of nature. Understand that and build cages or laws the let the beast be what it is and keep the folks safe and we are good . you can't blame the dog for biting.

#259 | Posted by Corky

Dude, you are vomitous in your fanboydom.

Grow up.

I'm not the one whining about it.

It's a fact. Romney's capital gains were gained without capital.

#259 | Posted by Corky

See you were playing the drinking game

It's a fact. Romney's capital gains were gained without capital.
#264 | Posted by rcade

Well hell, that great, we'll all be rich. As soon as you tell us how that's done.

#261 | Posted by nullifidian

Geez nulli--didn't like the joke--;o)

So looking forward to the debates now.

Obama will decimate any one of the pairs of clownshoes the GOP have running.

If Biden switches SOS w/ VP w/ Clinton and they put her up against some Teatard they've tied around Romney's neck it will be EPIC.

*makes mental note to buy a bigger popcorn bowl*

^__^

Should be good.

Be Well.

So looking forward to the debates now.

Obama will decimate any one of the pairs of clownshoes the GOP have running.

If Biden switches SOS w/ VP w/ Clinton and they put her up against some Teatard they've tied around Romney's neck it will be EPIC.

*makes mental note to buy a bigger popcorn bowl*

^__^

Should be good.

Be Well.

A post so nice Spud submitted it twice?

Le oops.

Be Well.

www.gallup.com

50 to 48

Obama and Romney

Obama and Gingrich

Le oops.

Correction: He broke his nose. Kerry just has one.

He's a wimp.

Wow LOL, classy republican start..

Gov't big and bossy as this one--

Mitch Daniels

lmao... Stumpy thinks Newt or Mitt wouldn't be blown off the stage like Kennedy on Nixon.

America got a look at the GOP when they all voted for Paul Ryan's Turn America Over to Wall Street economic agenda, and they aren't buying it this year, sorry.

Oh look! The State of Union is GRAVE! Be afraid, be VERY afraid!

Obama will decimate any one of the pairs of clownshoes the GOP have running.

Then why would he flip his VP and SOS?

you can't even convince yourself, spud.

worry about yourself.

Take a guess what Kerry pays on his capital gains, or Nancy Pelosi, or Obama's buttboy Warren Buffet.

But, of course, you are ignorant.

Um, yeah, no.

Here's the thing you aren't getting, numbnutz.

Kerry, Pelosi, Buffet and Obama are all calling for a change in the tax rate that will increase their own personal income taxes while Rmoney and the GOP are proposing tax changes that will save them millions and put the burden on idiots like you.

And Spud's the ignorant one here?

^__^

You crack Spud up, Li'l Rexy.

Good dawg!

Be Well.

Then why would he flip his VP and SOS?

Cos being SOS has been a dream of Biden's for a while now?

Cos making Hillz VP sets her up for 2016?

You really don't much attention to American politics, do you?

Be Well.

Official Repub response: "nation of haves and will haves". Wishful thinking.

Well there's winners, and there's losers .....

Crisis

That would be crony capitalism and I blame the politicians on that.

I do, too. And not just Republicans.

Correction: He broke his nose. Kerry just has one.

Yeah, but it's so big you may as well pluralize it.

Be Well.

Wow. The Republicans let a former drug dealer, pothead and acidhead give their response. Wouldn't Gingrich execute him?

@223
RCADE, are you alleging that Romney broke the law?

#278 | Posted by densepud

They know it will never happen, that the class warfare script is just a talking point to feed to the rubes, like you, only with voting rights.

#281 | Posted by rcade

Good to know. I have a number of Republicans I blame. Gramm at the top of my list.

Wow. The Republicans let a former drug dealer, pothead and acidhead give their response. Wouldn't Gingrich execute him?

#283 | Posted by nullifidian

You talking about Obama?

Cos being SOS has been a dream of Biden's for a while now?

Cos making Hillz VP sets her up for 2016?

nice attempt at making up an answer to deflect from your cheerleading.

You really don't much attention to American politics, do you?

you omitted the word "pay". I wonder why....leftie freeloader....

you are really a USA assniffing freak, aren't you?

=Wouldn't Gingrich execute him?

Only on alternate Tuesdays.

Is that really the Mitch Daniels that Rs have been saying "if only he were in the race"?

That guy?

Le oops.

#272 | POSTED BY ZATOICHI

What is this?

Willet?

Straight Kentucky Bourbon?

Never even heard of it before.

Is it any good?

Spud's pretty low-brow, drinks AN's WT

/Yes, in honor of HST *and* cos it's got a noice kick.

Be Well.

I do, too. And not just Republicans.

whatever. I love it when leftists pretend to hold the dems accountable for anything. what a laugh.

you can blame the dems for your dog dying. they don't care as long as they will always get your vote....which they'll get.......for life.

Daniels has all the charisma of a mid level Social Security actuary.

Is it any good?

I don't buy Maker's anymore.

Daniels has a different style but he laid out the conservative principles --he was excellent.

Wow. The Republicans let a former drug dealer, pothead and acidhead give their response. Wouldn't Gingrich execute him?

#283 | Posted by nullifidian

I'll bet you're tripping over yourself to hear what he has to say. DRUGS!

And Obama never brought up Obamacare once!

He said the word healthcare once...

Failure..

Outstanding!!!!

4 more years!

The GOP responds to Obama

"Republicans will speak for those who believe in the dignity and capacity of the individual citizen; who believe that government is meant to serve the people rather than supervise them;

"No feature of the Obama presidency has been sadder than its constant efforts to divide us, to curry favor with some Americans by castigating others," Daniels says.

"The President's grand experiment in trickle-down government has held back rather than sped economic recovery," Daniels says.

"On these evenings, Presidents naturally seek to find the sunny side of our national condition," Daniels says. "But when President Obama claims that the state of our union is anything but grave, he must know in his heart that this is not true."

content.usatoday.com

Under the affordable health care act..Insurance companies must pay out 80% of the money they take in back to the policy holders..

Woo, putting the people first, over profit...what a idea!

Obama 4 more years...

Is that really the Mitch Daniels that Rs have been saying "if only he were in the race"?
That guy?

Yuppo.

S'funny.

According to some DC wags him and "Crisco" Christie and Bobby "Volcano Monitors are silly" Jindal are the *real* heavy hitters who the GOP are saving for 2016 because they've realized that they are not getting the executive branch back any time soon. All rah-rah rhetoric to the contrary, of course.

For the totally delusional GOPhers out there a floor fight between Jeb Bush and Sarah Palin is the ultimate Teatard wet dream.

Won't happen.

The Bush name is still radioactive in too many minds.

Sarah's a grifter, just in it for the money and the ego boost and she will not rock that gravyboat.

Santorum is lethal to Moderates and Indys.

Paul's ceiling is 25% nationally.

Newt's unfavorables are simply too high to overcome.

And Rmoney, the chosen one, is so boring he makes John Kerry look like Mick freakin' Jagger in direct comparison.

So yeah unless Obama gets caught with "a live boy or a dead girl" as the saying goes he's got 2012 locked up.

Don't worry though.

It's still gonna be lulzy as hell.

^__^

Be Well.

#299 | Posted by truthteller101

When the government runs on a 20% overhead pigs will fly

I don't buy Maker's anymore.

*blinks*

Okaaaay then.

'Nuff sed.

*wonders now if this can be found at regular boozebins or only at specialty boozebins*

Canadian liquor stores are government run as a rule and only the specialty ones have all he good stuff.

Be Well.

Check it out tater tot

www.gallup.com

50 to 48

Obama and Romney

Obama and Gingrich

#271 | Posted by MURPHY

www.gallup.com

And Obama never brought up Obamacare once!
He said the word healthcare once...
Failure..
#296 | Posted by MURPHY

Becuse it's going so well!

www.drudge.com

Yes we can!

Funny they didn't show porky pig and Magic underwearer man..

Guess they didn't get a invite...

Canadian liquor stores are government run as a rule and only the specialty ones have all he good stuff.
#302 | Posted by dethspud

Ain't that the way it always is. The good stuff is always at the privately owned shops. Must suck to be a socialist.

"The President's grand experiment in trickle-down government has held back rather than sped economic recovery," Daniels says.

"On these evenings, Presidents naturally seek to find the sunny side of our national condition," Daniels says. "But when President Obama claims that the state of our union is anything but grave, he must know in his heart that this is not true."
content.usatoday.com

The Big Lie of this years campaign.

But no one who can read is buying it.

www.insperity.com

And Obama never brought up Obamacare once!
He said the word healthcare once...
Failure..

Actually he talked about how he was committed to improving healthcare a shit ton of times.

He didn't call it 'Obamacare' because that's something you morons on the right made up.

'Obamacare' is originally weaksauce Republican idea for Health Care Reform that Obama went to after the GOP said "Hell No!" to any type of public option.

Romneycare in Mass is actually very similar to what you call Obamacare.

At some point America will have to catch up to the rest of the civilized world and offer Universal Health Care.

As people become more aware of the issue they will eventually demand it.

And after you get it you'll be like everyone else in the industrialized west thinking "how the hell did we get by before without this?"

Oh, and one other thing, all the GOP candidates who are promising you they will repeal it?

They are lying to you.

K?

Be Well.

You got to be real stupid in this economy not to be making money now...

Let's see if it gets by the Supreme Court first Deth.

Why do you insult the 99% like that truthkiller?

#310 | Posted by truthteller101

Ask a retailer if everything is peachy. I see business is up at the dollar store and McDonalds.

I see business is up at the dollar store and McDonalds.

#312 | Posted by paneocon

And I see you dine and shop at all the finest establishments!

You Canadians better hope we stop Obama care, otherwise you will have to stay home for your medical treatment..

Awesome speech...one of the best I have ever seen.

The bar is set pretty high.

Good luck Noot!

#298 | Posted by paneocon

why did you waste your bandwidth?

Such complete and utter nonsense it is not even worth repeating.

Oh sure repeal the affordable health care act.. no way!

Many people are already on it.. Kids are on it now till age 26..
Parents who have no insurance can buy it at group rates for their childred.. For many people they are already on the affordable health care. By 2014 the adult will also be able to buy it at group rates.

They are not going to take people coverage away from them, once they got it!

Under the Affordable health care act.. Insurance companies must pay out 80% of the money they take in, back to the policy holders.

Medicare is Govt health care... Affordable health care act..is a public insurance companies plans...Not Govt ran plan..

"Millions of Americans who work hard and play by the rules every day deserve a government and a financial system that does the same, which is why I hired Geithner, Holder and Summers".

Ain't that the way it always is. The good stuff is always at the privately owned shops. Must suck to be a socialist.

Actually, being a socialist rocks!

We pay more for alcohol here in Canada but a large part of that is taxes which go to pay into the Health care system which we are all pretty much cool with and can see the logic of.

The speialty shops aren't the private shops.

Private booze shops are mostly cold beer and wine outlets which were allowed at some point in the 80s with a CanCon mandate.

That all noted, Zat's Willett find is proving a hard find.

Some of the Willett Bourbons and Ryes have been outstanding. But they're often very difficult to find. I spoke with Drew, my contact at Kentucky Bourbon Distillers (the bottlers of Willett) yesterday, and here’s a brief synopsis of what he told me regarding what's available where (and contact information!):

John, we sent 96 bottles of our 25YR/90.2 Proof to CA for distribution and 360 bottles to Japan. I believe that there was a total of 8 barrels for this release. Retail is around $150-$175 in CA.


96 bottles to Canada?

/And if one of those bottles should happen to fall?

Dang, might hafta make a trip down to Seattle for this.

Be Well.

Canadian liquor stores are government run as a rule and only the specialty ones have all he good stuff.
#302 | Posted by dethspud

So not only do Canucks have to come across the border for medical treatment--you have to come across for liquor!! ;o)

FF for Nutcase

You Canadians better hope we stop Obama care, otherwise you will have to stay home for your medical treatment.

More Americans take advantage of Canada's cheaper medical system than vice versa.

Lacking a national health care system of their own, thousands of Americans are tapping into Canada's -- illegally.

"It's not an epidemic in any one person's practice," said Keith MacLeod, an obstetrician in Windsor, Ontario, across from Detroit, "but I would estimate that from 12 to 20 of my patients at any one time are ineligible Americans. And I'm just one of 520 doctors in Windsor, 23,000 in Ontario."

www.nytimes.com

It got so bad with Americans "borrowing" Canadian's Care Cards and utilizing them that we had to orchestrate a response to stop it.

Mostly it's only slowed it.

Meh, not a big issue with Spud.

Spud feels sorry for Americans who can't afford HC in their own country because the big Insurers own your pols.

But way to propagate their propaganda for them.

Such a useful idiot.

*tousles hair*

Be Well.

Willett bourbon can be had at Spec's.

Oh look! The State of Union is GRAVE! Be afraid, be VERY afraid!

#276 | Posted by Corky

wasn't the difference stark?

Interesting how the Obama speech was full of Hope and Optimism and the Republican Speech made me feel like I wanted to kill myself and get it over with.

I guess the Pubes will need to stock up on Paxil and Xanax come Nov.

Bourbon and like whiskeys are too sweet

2 4loko's and a oxycontin.

Good god. Someone mentioned bourbon. I was thinking back to the last time I had it. A buddy of mine in Navy school and I made a pact in 1975 to meet on Feb 2, 1981 at a bar in Jax Beach, Fla. Although we lost touch with each other for over 5 years, we both made it there -- to the surprise of us both.

We drank bourbon. I didn't like it but it was his drink. I never saw him again after that.

He had an unusual name. I just googled it and his hometown. He died last May.

See what talking about whiskey will do? That's sad.

What a fucking dud as most news channels are saying. He fucked up when he lost whatever brain he had and let it return to Chicago. Rahm ran that show for the first 2 years.

2 4loko's and a oxycontin.

Jimmy Buffet likes a bottle of rum and an Eskatrol

"Now I was sittin' in the corner of a very laid back bar
A little three piece band playin' on the stand
Not knowin' what lay in store
In a flash a man with a hat and a harmonica stormed the stage
The crowd went berserk,
The band said, "What a jerk."
As he went into a blues rampage. "

Interesting how the Obama speech was full of Hope and Optimism and the Republican Speech made me feel like I wanted to kill myself and get it over with.

#323 | Posted by donnerboy

Funny how you left off "change". But you should hit the rewind button and listen to the Republican Speech and see if you can follow thru with you 2nd thought. It's the best one you've had since joining this site.

Check it out tater tot
www.gallup.com
50 to 48
Obama and Romney
Obama and Gingrich.

Yeah, and Obama hasn't even started campaigning in earnest yet.

Not sure if you remember but he's pretty good at that.

There's an old saying on the left.

Wanna hear it? Here it goes...

"If you want to lose an argument to a conservative let him talk for 30 seconds. If you want to win an argument with a conservative let him talk for 30 minutes."

Long road to November.

Be Well.

There's an old saying on the left.

Wanna hear it? Here it goes...

Share the Wealth.

Not sure if you remember but he's pretty good at that.

He was pretty good at that. He's got a tougher crowd now and the hopey changey thing is going to be a hard fucking sell this time around.

If Obama lets this speech run over into U.S. women's soccer I'm voting Republican.

/Oblig and hawt.

Be Well.

Obama's speech lifted my heart.

Watching the replay, the best thing about the speech was seeing Gabby Gifford.

I hope she feels the love and good wishes America sends her.

What a fighter.

Corky, did you see Hil's hairdo at the beginning? I'll bet you call your Doctor after 4 hours.

Watching the replay, the best thing about the speech was seeing Gabby Gifford.

I hope she feels the love and good wishes America sends her.

What a fighter.

#335 | Posted by RexZeitgeist

Agreed. She looked great.

Share the Wealth.

Um, yeah, no.

Try "Pay your fair share"

K?

You cheer on your own doom because you are a moron who thinks that returning your country's tax structure back to what it was before when things were better for the middle class (the very definition of fiscal conservatism, btw) is decried as ZOMG SOSHULIZMZ! while radically restructuring the tax codes so that the already-paying-too-little investment class pay even less is somehow the height of common sense.

American stupidity fascinates Spud.

Be Well.

Funny how you left off "change". But you should hit the rewind button and listen to the Republican Speech and see if you can follow thru with you 2nd thought. It's the best one you've had since joining this site.

#329 | Posted by wisgod


Yeah Ok..Change...How do you like how Obama Changed the future of millions of auto workers lives? GM is now the number one automaker in the world. Instead of Bankrupt.

Obama Changed that.

How do you like the fact that OBL is STILL DEAD?

Obama changed that.

How do you like the fact that more Americans are eligible for better health care?

Obama Changed that.

How do you like be a grumpy old curmudgeon?

Oops! Obama could not Change that!

American stupidity fascinates Spud.

Be Well.

#338 | Posted by dethspud

I'm sure it must. That's why you post here with words only an infant or your Goverment in Canada could understand, you sorry excuse for a John Wayne Gacy.

There's an old saying on the left.

Wanna hear it? Here it goes...

Share the Wealth.

#331 | Posted by wisgod

Now there's a new saying on the Left (and soon to be on the Right)

It's called Fairness

How do you like how Obama Changed the future of millions of auto workers lives? GM is now the number one automaker in the world. Instead of Bankrupt.

Obama Changed that.

Posted by donnerboy

With our taxpayer money, you dumbfuck. What did he charge for interest?
Negative $20+M.

Agreed. She looked great.

#337 | Posted by wisgod

I'd hit it. And hard. I'd fuck her brains back in.

It's called Fairness

#341 | Posted by donnerboy

No, it's called welfare for dregs like you, underachiever.

It's called Fairness

#341 | Posted by donnerboy

Delivered by unicorns prancing across rainbows.

Isn't that special?

you can blame the dems for your dog dying. they don't care as long as they will always get your vote....which they'll get.......for life.

Democrats will get my vote until Republicans give me a reason to vote for them. With the exception of Ron Paul, they're a sorry bunch who make Richard Nixon look good.

you sorry excuse for a John Wayne Gacy

Damn Wisgod,what a fucked up thing to say.You do realize that Gabby Gifford is a liberal,yet you had a kind word for her.

Try "Pay your fair share"

I like that much better.

You always did have a way with words.

words only an infant or your Goverment in Canada could understand

Wot words?

These words?

You cheer on your own doom because you are a moron who thinks that returning your country's tax structure back to what it was before when things were better for the middle class (the very definition of fiscal conservatism, btw) is decried as ZOMG SOSHULIZMZ! while radically restructuring the tax codes so that the already-paying-too-little investment class pay even less is somehow the height of common sense.

Wot part of that are you having trouble with, specifically?

Spud likes to help when he can.

It's not that hard to see if toss your blinkers away.

Be Well.

With our taxpayer money, you dumbfuck. What did he charge for interest?
Negative $20+M.

#342 | Posted by wisgod

Wisgod wouldn't have bet on Americans winning.

He would rather bet on Americans losing.

How weird is that?

Gabby Giffords was the highlight for me too.

Try "Pay your fair share"
I like that much better.
You always did have a way with words.

Or as Obama said about the day you guys got OBL.

"Everybody did their jobs".

Biggest problem with America is the people not doing their jobs.

See: Congress

See also: SEC.

Be Well.

Damn Wisgod,what a fucked up thing to say.You do realize that Gabby Gifford is a liberal,yet you had a kind word for her.

#347 | Posted by bruceaz

No shit. She's an American and not some bumbling Canadian retard who posts like he caught one in the head.
Anything else?

"Millions of Americans who work hard and play by the rules every day deserve a government and a financial system that does the same, which is why I hired Geithner, Holder and Summers".

#318 | POSTED BY NUTCASE AT 2012-01-24 11:20 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

thought for sure this was snark until google revealed transcriptions of o'bomber's SOTU.

what. the. actual. fuck.

Wisgod wouldn't have bet on Americans winning.

He would rather bet on Americans losing.

How weird is that?

#350 | Posted by donnerboy

Winning? How about I bail somebody out of foreclosure and tell them what a winner they are? Are you normally this stupid or is tonight just a case of you setting the bar higher?

It's called Fairness

#341 | Posted by donnerboy

Delivered by unicorns prancing across rainbows.

Isn't that special?

#345 | Posted by goatman

What? no Pink Elephants?

always good to here from the Alcoholics in the group! How are those 12 steps coming?

poor wissy...I think he just figured out what loser he is!

Boehner looked very stern tonight. Not a tear in sight!

Anything else?

I think Dethspud is one of the most enjoyable posters here,must be BC Bud.Can't wait for Tossers return either.Spice of life my friend.

poor wissy...I think he just figured out what loser he is!

#357 | Posted by donnerboy

Is that the best you've got, handout? You really don't need to worry about me. I'm not about to give you anything.

How about I bail somebody out of foreclosure and tell them what a winner they are?

What a nice idea! Think you could really do something as altruistic as that?

I highly doubt it.

But, it might offset some of the wreckage you have obviously left in your wake as you have stumbled through this world spitting on anyone you could along the way.

Boehner looked very stern tonight

I think he shit his pants.

You really get a difference sense of it the second time, the partisan stridency juxtaposed with artifical outreach....the outlines of Boehner and Biuden, two colors of the differing political parties melding into Obama's odd complexion....

But, it might offset some of the wreckage you have obviously left in your wake as you have stumbled through this world spitting on anyone you could along the way.

#361 | Posted by donnerboy

You're not as dumb as I thought...It's called a competitive spirit. Some men have it.

I'm not about to give you anything.

#360 | Posted by wisgod

WissyGawd foreplay?

Gabby Giffords was the highlight for me too.

Bittersweet moment.

Be Well.

Boehner looked very stern tonight

I think he shit his pants.

#362 | Posted by bruceaz

LOL!

Some men have it.

#364 | Posted by wisgod

And some men don't.

And some Men try to rise above their baser instincts.

Check

What a stinking pussy you are donorbrain.

It's an ex-'you must be Rex' night up in heyya...

Correction. Donorbrain, I left out self-righteous. You're a self-righteous stinking pussy. That's more like it.

Go comment on the bond market, you idiot.

Romney's unfavorables.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Newt's unfavorables.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Any questions?

Be Well.

What a stinking pussy you are donorbrain.

#369 | Posted by rhinomaximus

Another Alcoholic speaks!

So tells us Whino...Does being such a Loser leave bad taste in your mouth today?

Nothing to say about the Awesomeness of Obama? just the usual Maximal Whining?

Go comment on the bond market, you idiot.

#371 | Posted by rhinomaximus

Ok my comment is this...Why aren't you in the 13% tax bracket like Mittens of the Magic Underwear?

What? You have no money and you have no clue how the markets work?

ok That splains it!

www.youtube.com

...what is wrong with Kerry. He looks horrible. -- #235 | Posted by eberly

He got two black eyes and a broken nose from a stick in the face while playing hockey: www.washingtonpost.com

always good to here from the Alcoholics in the group! How are those 12 steps coming?

#356 | Posted by donnerboy

It's your fantasy. You tell me, dummerboy. I'll go along with it

Talk is cheap. All we've heard from Obama since his election is Rethug talking points while he reinstated agents of the status quo in the Fed and Treasury. Obama is funded by the same greedfuckers as Shrub and Romney. The only question left is will he bite the hands that feed him when a reelection is no longer on the line? Meanwhile, Rethugs continue to talk out of their ass. They are correct about one thing, the state of the nation is dire, largely because they want it to be so. Even Shrub was unable to fool enough people without computerized voye rigging and SCOTUS. That's what its come down to and no one is doing shit about it. The plan is simply to steal as much as possible before the empire crumbles. Newt might as well be Caligula. Boehner, Cantor and McConnell might as well be Nero.

Americans are not offered viable choices or solutions, but they barely notice.

If the state of the union is grave right now what was it when Obama took office? Daniels should have considered that before he ran his mouth, as it is his speech was sort of 3 years late.

If the state of the union is grave right now what was it when Obama took office?
Posted by danni

Grave. So, he's done shit in 3 years. Remember is promise about fixing it in 3 years or not seeking a 2nd Term? That whopper is listed next to all the others this liar has broken.

"Grave. So, he's done shit in 3 years."

Sorry but it is ridiculous to claim that we are not better off now than we were when Paulson and Bush were begging for a bailout to try and prevent a complete meltdown of our economy. Only a liar would pretend that we aren't but then we have quite a few of them who post here.

The only question left is will he bite the hands that feed him when a reelection is no longer on the line?

In terms of achieving an aggressively progressive agenda?

Of course not.

Obama is a centrist and a moderate Republican at heart.

He will continue to be a pragmatic, long game player within the context of a broken DC.

That noted, both sides are bad =/= both sides are equally bad.

Being overly cynical about the process is about as useful as being totally naive.

One side promises war with Iran and a ramping up of the already absurd class war.

The other side has a 50/50 chance of war with Iran and are committed to putting some degree of sanity and sustainability back into the financial markets and tax structures.

It's basically the same choice you had back in 2008.

"Half a chance to succeed" versus "guaranteed to fail".

Choose wisely.

Be Well.

Sorry but it is ridiculous to claim that we are not better off now than we were when Paulson and Bush were begging for a bailout to try and prevent a complete meltdown of our economy. Only a liar would pretend that we aren't but then we have quite a few of them who post here.

#380 | Posted by danni

You can claim that until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't change the fact that he's an epic failure. Hope you're working on spinning the Jan. Jobs report.

You can claim that until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't change the fact that the GOP's economic policies have been an epic failure for the last 30 years.

/Fixed That For You.

Most of the economic woes besetting the country have been helped by Obama's policies and hindered by RW obstructionism.

You got nothing but fail.

Your policies are batshiat insane and radical.

Newt and Romney are unelectable.

Obama brought the country back from a death spiral, killed OBL, fulfilled NATO obligations admirably in Libya, got the troops outta Iraq, is winding down Afghanistan, started Aemkrica on the road to energy independents with increased green energy projects, rebuilt infrastructure, ended DADT, brought financial reform (that the GOP took all the teeth outta, of course), weathered the Gulf Oil spill with aplomb, ended extra-ordinary rendition, tried to close GITMO and got shut down by the GOP and restored much of America's good name in the world.

And what have the GOP done?

/Asides from trying to redefine rape and make abortion illegal, that is.

The GOP have nothing but obstruct and try to keep the economy from recovering because blaming a bad economy on Obama (that they are mostly responsible for) is all they have left.

In short, they are pathetic and anyone who thinks they are worth voting for this time out is either a flat out moron or a greedy, sociopath.

Be Well.

The SOTU aka (STFU) was a great stump speech full of ideas, platitudes, class warfare and more government spending. If he was serious about ANY of that crap, he should have passed all those bills when he had the house and senate.

On a side note: Obama looked like he had jaundice on FOX. All the other stations he just looked like a dick.

AP FACT CHECK: Obama Pushes Plans That Flopped Before

WASHINGTON (AP) - It was a wish list, not a to-do list.

President Barack Obama laid out an array of plans in his State of the Union speech as if his hands weren't so tied by political realities. There can be little more than wishful thinking...

THE FACTS: This is at least Obama's third run at stripping subsidies from the oil industry. Back when fellow Democrats formed the House and Senate majorities, he sought $36.5 billion in tax increases on oil and gas companies over the next decade, but Congress largely ignored the request.

THE FACTS: That's only half true. About half of the more than 30 million uninsured Americans expected to gain coverage through the health care law will be enrolled in a government program. Medicaid, the federal-state program for low-income people, will be expanded starting in 2014 to cover childless adults living near the poverty line.

THE FACTS: The idea of taking war "savings" to pay for other programs is budgetary sleight of hand. For one thing, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been largely financed through borrowing, so stopping the wars doesn't create a pool of ready cash, just less debt. And the savings appear to be based at least in part on inflated war spending estimates for future years.

THE FACTS: He left out some key details. The bailout of General Motors and Chrysler began under Republican President George W. Bush. Obama picked up the ball, earmarked more money, and finished the job. But Ford never asked for a federal bailout and never got one

www.theblaze.com

ruh roh, When you lose the AP can the folks be far behind?

-On a side note: Obama looked like he had jaundice on FOX

exactly. It didn't look good at all.

I thought it was my TV until I saw Biden and Boehner behind him.

Wow, what a thread.

some folks need to get into their ENT MD very soon as the abrasions on the back of their throats have to be serious.

Where was Corky last night? Dusting off his Hillary yard sign?

"Considering the general tendency to multiply offices and dependencies and to increase expense to the ultimate term of burthen which the citizen can bear, it behooves us to avail ourselves of every occasion which presents itself for taking off the surcharge, that it never may be seen here that after leaving to labor the smallest portion of its earnings on which it can subsist, Government shall itself consume the whole residue of what it was instituted to guard."

That was my favorite part of the speech.

My favorite part of watching the speech....the sour look on Eric Cantor's face. Hilarious.

Which is why Romney is worth a quarter of a billion and still pays a 15% tax rate?

Answer
Because, like many middle class and upper class retired americans he is living off his investments, not going to work everyday and collecting a paycheck. Is that not leagal? The fact that he made so much money he can live without working?

Forced education, well there goes the constitution under the bus.

#98 | Posted by

That's ridiculous and funny on so many levels. Reading this drivel makes me glad I rarely ever encounter such people in my neck of the woods.

My favorite part of the speech was catching 40 winks. -Joe Biden.

www.jsonline.com

"Which is why Romney is worth a quarter of a billion and still pays a 15% tax rate?"

Real answer: because rich folks like him can afford lobbyists to buy Congress and get them to give them a tax rate less than those who get up every morning and go do a hard day's work. Most Americans will agree with me, it's time to force the idle rich to pay their fair share. Perfect issue for the Nov. election, let's have a real discussion about income inequality and fairness in taxes. Democrats will win in a landslide with such a discussion.

Reading this drivel makes me glad I rarely ever encounter such people in my neck of the woods.

#392 | Posted by midiman

Is that the woods where you pull on fat guys ears and tell them to squeal?

Here's what President Obama was going to try to get across tonight. Somehow a person that pays $6.2 million is a villain while people that pay no federal taxes are victims. But this is deeper than that and those that take the income inequality bait should understand your pain and envy is being used as a shield for government to get larger and more dominant in public life. When President Obama talks about "collective" it will be suggested that someone making $1.0 million a year is making too much and should be taxed so that the person making $40,000 can be lifted higher. It matters not how the monies are earned. It matters not the sacrifices made by the former. It matters not if the latter dropped out of school or simply made a choice not to work hard enough to climb the ladder.

"Millions of Americans who work hard and play by the rules every day deserve a government and a financial system that do the same," Obama said. "It's time to apply the same rules from top to bottom: No bailouts, no handouts and no cop-outs. An America built to last insists on responsibility from everybody." - SOTU Address

Has Obama forgotten his last 3 years? His entire term of office has been bailouts, handouts and cop-outs!!! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. How could Americans listen to him say that and not recognize the hypocrisy?

"Here's what President Obama was going to try to get across tonight. Somehow a person that pays $6.2 million is a villain while people that pay no federal taxes are victims."

But then if a person earned exactly the same amount of income but actually WORKED FOR THE MONEY they would pay 35% of it in taxes. Now please explain to that person how that is fair.
Quit with the class warfare and deal with the unfairness of the tax code, deal with the FACT that capital gains tax rates discourage investment into job creating industries.

#394 | POSTED BY DANNI

It's not the income tax rate, Danni. What Congress needs to do is say "dividends and capital gains are income, and should be taxed in the same manner as income earned from labor, and at the same rate". I'm not a fan of tax and spend, but not taxing the primary source of wealth (capital gains) for the very wealthy at the same rate as income earned from labor is stupid. The ultra-wealthy have essentially quit 'earning' a living because they get less for their labor than they do for taking an investment risk. They didn't invent it...someone (or a group of someones) in Congress wearing a foreskin like a turtleneck introduced that concept. They can "un-introduce" it too.

"What Congress needs to do is say "dividends and capital gains are income, and should be taxed in the same manner as income earned from labor, and at the same rate".

Agreed!

History of Capital Gains Tax in the United States

en.wikipedia.org

When is the President going to challenge himself? Isn't he the one that is for holding CEO's responsible for the actions of their companies?

He is the CEO of America right now... why does he not want to be responsible for his companies actions?

"What Congress needs to do is say "dividends and capital gains are income, and should be taxed in the same manner as income earned from labor, and at the same rate".

Good luck running on raising the capital gains tax to 30%. Hopefully the repubs will make this their campaign message. Obama not only wants the 30% paid on money earned to invest, but he also wants to add another 30% on any gains as well.

Maybe Buffet's secretary will have something for Michelle next Feb...

EXPS, it goes to his quote about responsibility and 'no cop-outs'. He has YET to take responsibility for the economy, using the Bush's fault cop-out. Bush had been President for 8 months when the 9/11 attack happened, but ask a Democrat and it will have been his fault (some wackadoodles will even claim he planned it), but Obama has been holding the reins for 3 years, and he still isn't to blame for anything (although he gives himself credit anytime something good happens).

"Good luck running on raising the capital gains tax to 30%."

If it allowed your first $250,000 to be taxed at around 20% I think most Americans would see it as FAIR.

"If it allowed your first $250,000 to be taxed at around 20% I think most Americans would see it as FAIR."

Sorry danni. If you want to be stupid enough to believe the Buffet rule, then you need to abide by it. Obama wants it raised to her tax percentage, which is above 30%. Hence he is running on raising all capital gains taxes.

#391 actually the answer is. Romney only pays 15% because he successfully lobbies Congress with allthat loot so he can keep all that loot and NOT pay his fair share.

"but Obama has been holding the reins for 3 years, and he still isn't to blame for anything (although he gives himself credit anytime something good happens)."

Hmmm....he is also responsible for the recovery so where have I missed you giving him credit???? YOu want him to accept blame but you are unwilling to give credit where due....hypocrite much?

Also:

"Now the President himself has said it. The key moment came during Obama’s interview with WCCO-TV in Minnesota, video of which is right here. Asked at what point the economy becomes his fault, and not his predecessor's, Obama said:

Well, it's always my responsibility. I'm less interested in allocating blame than just making sure that we're taking every step we need to to move the economy forward. And traditionally, after big financial crises like this, the economy takes a longer time to heal. And we've seen some progress in the private sector, where we've seen over two million jobs created, and this year alone over a million jobs created. But it's just not enough yet to have an impact on everybody who needs help out there."

"Hence he is running on raising all capital gains taxes."

Us Democrats will be very proud of him if he does! Halleluiah, about time!

"But then if a person earned exactly the same amount of income but actually WORKED FOR THE MONEY they would pay 35% of it in taxes. Now please explain to that person how that is fair.
Quit with the class warfare and deal with the unfairness of the tax code, deal with the FACT that capital gains tax rates discourage investment into job creating industries."

#398 | Posted by danni

Liar! No one pays 35% on taxes. People pay a very low rate on the first part of oncome and then higher on the higher fraction and only 31% on the highest, etc. SO the average person pays an average rate of about 20-22%.

The fact that you don't know this is probably because you don't pay taxes.

Investors pay 15% on their profits but they have gamble a little to get that and could lose it all!

"Us Democrats will be very proud of him if he does! Halleluiah, about time!"

Of course you will. You have never had a reason to worry about capital gains or investments like most other losers who vote dems...

"And we've seen some progress in the private sector, where we've seen over two million jobs created, and this year alone over a million jobs created."

He's doing just fine...should be reelected by a landslide.

www.realclearpolitics.com

www.mrc.org

online.wsj.com

www.marketwatch.com

"But then if a person earned exactly the same amount of income but actually WORKED FOR THE MONEY they would pay 35% of it in taxes."

I see. So if I spend eight hours looking for the best investment and get lucky to cash in and make money, that eight hours I spent is not considered working to you?

Like I said danni....

"You have never had a reason to worry about capital gains or investments like most other losers who vote dems..."

#391 actually the answer is. Romney only pays 15% because he successfully lobbies Congress with allthat loot so he can keep all that loot and NOT pay his fair share.

#407 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Bain Capital has donated almost twice as much to Democrats as Republicans. If your statement is true, then which side of the aisle is to blame?

#408 | POSTED BY DANNI

And a nicely crafted statement that was, but he'll follow that up with a dozen references to "the mess I inherited", "Bush's economy", etc....and his supporters will say the same things 100 times more.

Us Democrats will be very proud of him if he does! Halleluiah, about time!

#409 | Posted by danni

No doubt. When it doesn't affect you, you're all for the other guy paying.

"Fourth post. Fourth and final SOTU for #44...
#6 | Posted by crispee_oc"

Fourth post, huh? Must suck to be CoCo, and be wrong about everything all of the time. What a fucking douche.

Let's do some fact checking, shall we???

OBAMA: "We have subsidized oil companies for a century. That's long enough. It's time to end the taxpayer giveaways to an industry that's rarely been more profitable, and double-down on a clean energy industry that's never been more promising."

THE FACTS: This is at least Obama's third run at stripping subsidies from the oil industry. Back when fellow Democrats formed the House and Senate majorities, he sought $36.5 billion in tax increases on oil and gas companies over the next decade, but Congress largely ignored the request. He called again to end such tax breaks in last year's State of the Union speech. And he's now doing it again, despite facing a wall of opposition from Republicans who want to spur domestic oil and gas production and oppose tax increases generally. -AP Fact Check

AND he sent our tax money to Brazil to help them drill for oil which 31% will be sold to China for starters.

Here is another loo loo:
OBAMA, asking Congress to pay for construction projects: "Take the money we're no longer spending at war, use half of it to pay down our debt, and use the rest to do some nation-building right here at home."

THE FACTS: The idea of taking war "savings" to pay for other programs is budgetary sleight of hand. For one thing, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been largely financed through borrowing, so stopping the wars doesn't create a pool of ready cash, just less debt. And the savings appear to be based at least in part on inflated war spending estimates for future years. -AP Fact check

#407 | Posted by danni
Obama speaks with forked tongue which is the only thing he knows how to do. He has been on the blame game since he took office, refuses to admit he is wrong about anything, and is taking this country down into flames. NOBAMA HELL NO!

Oh, Warren Buffett's secretary just bought a second home???? Oh, she makes between $200k and $500k? You mean she is one of those evil millionaire/billionaires???? Gee!

I read to post 278 and skipped the rest so excuse me if this has been addressed already.

Taxing capital gains at the same rate as earned income is asinine. The higher rates won't hurt millionaires. It'll hurt the everyday Joe like you and me who works for 40-50 years to save enough money to retire. As has been at discussed length elsewhere, ROI for social security is crap. Most people need to set aside several hundred thousand to retire and not see a drastic change in their standard of living. (Not true if you make $10/hr obviously but that's substandard by far, be reasonable in any criticism of the previous statement). Raising the tax rate on capital gains in effect decreases the standard of living for all retired middle class average people. And you too if you make it that far with a few pennies left to rub together. My belabored point is that taxing capital gains is a tax increase on the middle class and has much more damaging effects on them than it does millionaires. So put that in your pipe and smoke it while you are decrying the rich of low capital gains taxes. Those rates aren't for millionaires, they are for us when we retire.

Here's a better idea, make the capital gains tax progressive, just like normal income, starting somewhere north of $70k/year. So you don't kill off all the old folks and yet stick it to the rich at the same time.

Capital gains are made on income that is invested. That income has already been taxed before investment.

Capital gains are made on income that is invested. That income has already been taxed before investment.

#421 | Posted by patriotwoman23

and when the already taxed money is spent it is taxed again, so what is your point?

oh and btw that pre investment money wasnt necessarily taxed

Capital gains are made on income that is invested. That income has already been taxed before investment.

#421 | POSTED BY PATRIOTWOMAN23 AT 2012-01-25 08:10 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Which is why you are only taxed on the profit, not the capital investment. Hence the word capital "gains" tax.

oh and btw that pre investment money wasnt necessarily taxed

#422 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2012-01-25 08:15 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Have no fear, once you try to spend that money the IRS will get theirs. Jerks. lol

Capital gains are made on income that is invested. That income has already been taxed before investment.

#421 | POSTED BY PATRIOTWOMAN23 AT 2012-01-25 08:10 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

If only we could keep the IRS from taking any taxes from us when we make a withdrawal until AFTER we take out an amount equal to our already taxed investment. Hmmm. Good luck getting that through Congress. Makes too much sense.

Facism

Baaaaahhhh

Seems he talked just everything but the actual state of the union.

Audio just came on the CNN Live site.

Jump up and down and yell, Rogers, so we can see you!

Obama says Gates doesn't envy the rich. REALLY? Gee that is another pearl of great Odummy wisdom. And Obama is really connecting with "real Americans" when he is talking about his talks with Buffett and Gates. BWAAAHHHHH! Hey how about EVERYONE pay their fair share which means HE and Moochelle pay 35% of EVERYTHING. Let's tax every benefit they get living in the WH. Let's have the 49 or 50% in this country who don't pay any taxes, PAY TAXES!

Was there a SOTU? I must have missed it. But then again, I don't waste my time listening to a campaign speech or BS.

How the fuck did we deteriorate as a culture to the degree that scum like this could be elected president?

I can't even watch.

Then by all means, kill yourself.

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