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Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Bret Stephens, Wall Street Journal deputy editorial page editor: Let's just say right now what voters will be saying in November, once Barack Obama has been re-elected: Republicans deserve to lose. ... [I]t doesn't matter that Americans are generally eager to send Obama packing. All they need is to be reasonably sure that the alternative won't be another fiasco. But they can't be reasonably sure, so it's going to be four more years of the disappointment you already know. ... [T]he U.S. will surely survive four more years. Who knows? By then maybe Republicans will have figured out that if they don't want to lose, they shouldn't run with losers.

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Sadly, unless things improve for the GOP slate, I think Stephens hits the nail on the head, notwithstanding the litany of failure that is the Obama Presidency:

It doesn't matter that Mr. Obama can't get the economy out of second gear. It doesn't matter that he cynically betrayed his core promise as a candidate to be a unifying president. It doesn't matter that he keeps blaming Bush. It doesn't matter that he thinks ATMs are weapons of employment destruction. It doesn't matter that Tim Geithner remains secretary of Treasury. It doesn't matter that the result of his "reset" with Russia is Moscow selling fighter jets to Damascus. It doesn't matter that the Obama name is synonymous with the most unpopular law in memory. It doesn't matter that his wife thinks America doesn't deserve him. It doesn't matter that the Evel Knievel theory of fiscal stimulus isn't going to make it over the Snake River Canyon of debt.
Unless and until the GOP can put forth a real candidate, we are stuck with the Barry and Joe show for another 4, long years.

Next time you libs are whining about Rupert Murdoch being a Republican suck up think back to this article.

#2

Well said, but the DR Left won't get what Stephens is saying, they will only focus on the GOP...Lose aspect of the article.

The other notable thing about this Op-Ed piece is that you would never see something in the NYT which out and out said "Obama is lame."

Unless and until the GOP can put forth a real candidate, we are stuck with the Barry and Joe show for another 4, long years.

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at

Which is exactly the way it should be.

You guys can't find a better candidate because you guys have literally frightened the decent chaps into hiding. No sane person wants to put up with your shit.

It's not that modern day "conservatism" can't come up with a critique of their opposition. It's that they are uttterly unable to critique themselves. Until freaking now, when things are obviously threatening to fall apart for them.

Damn, you fellows have been heading towards this train wreck for years. You're just apparently the last to know. No one's sorry for you. Next time, less of your precious anger and more hard work.

Hate and anger sell well to the base, but not to the nation.

Hate and anger sell well to the base, but not to the nation.

#7 | Posted by 2008 at

It was interesting to see Newt Gingrich write off the Black vote for the next twenty years of Republican history. And get cheered for it.

And get cheered for it.

Pandering to the lunatics and wrong in his facts too.

This is the strangest things about the modern GOP. The notion that potential voters are able to read Republican minds and see that they are sober and decent people afterall.

NO ONE CAN READ MINDS. People are listening to what you say and are looking at your behavior. And you like to behave like mad dogs. Why? Damned if I know. It has always seemed to have something to do with a perverted sense of manhood, with the sort of personality that ENJOYS seeing the bully kick sand in someone's face.

think back to this article.

Yeah, one Op-Ed column overrides everything Rupert has ever done to support the GOP.

LOL!

And you like to behave like mad dogs. Why? Damned if I know

I cannot honestly understand the hatred and anger that is coming from the right.

I was going to nitpick a few things but this column is too good.

Gonna bookmark this one for later this year and see how it reads then.

"Well said, but the DR Left won't get what Stephens is saying, they will only focus on the GOP...Lose aspect of the article."

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2012-01-24 08:40 PM

uhh... excuse me!

This is what Danni, AU and Moder8 have been trying to tell you for many months now.

But you were too busy bragging about how Obama was going down in the next election.

"A primary ballot for Mr. Gingrich is a vote for an entertaining election, not a Republican in the White House."

Ouch.

"A primary ballot for Mr. Gingrich is a vote for an entertaining election, not a Republican in the White House."

That's awesome!

A primary ballot for Mr. Gingrich is a vote for an entertaining election, not a Republican in the White House."

^__^

LOL.

On the plus side if Gingrich actually does win at least we know Callista is cool with an open marriage so there's a real possibility that folks can just show up at the WH and start banging her brains out and Newt'll be cool with it.

Of course the economy would likely have imploded by then and America would be at war with Iran but ya gotta look at the dark clouds carefully to find the silver lining sometimes.

Also you know she gives a wicked hummer!

Be Well.

The GOP Deserves to Lose

......"..deserves got nothing to do with it"....Clint Eastwood.

.....of course not, it's as if they are saddling up the Apple Dumpling Gang to take on Clint...

www.imdb.com

Also you know she gives a wicked hummer!
#17 | Posted by dethspud

[Citation Needed]

Gingrich 2016

hahahahaha

Funny flag for Hagbard #19. Spud, control yourself. lol

On topic... the one Republican who seemed to have his head on straight, Huntsman, was never really in the game. So here we are. Sheesh.

I understand anger. I think we have all felt it - and still do. We're all frustrated at the economy, the conflicts overseas, and the inability of Washington to get things back to normal. But there is no easy answer -- not from your candidate, or my candidate, or some magical third-party candidate. We got into this mess through years, or actually decades, of careless policy on both sides of the aisle, along with forces not entirely within our control.

We had someone attack us in 2001. Something obviously had to be done, but I think we went about it the wrong way. Meanwhile, every aspect of the real estate industry -- including buyers and sellers -- seemed to lose their heads at the same time, feeding an enormous bubble and ignoring conventional wisdom that warned of a burst. But then it did burst, and the whole house of cards of our economy -- which relies too much on housing starts as a gauge of its health anyway -- came crashing down.

Now it's going to require patience and sacrifice to solve things, and I don't see a lot of willingness, here or in Washington, to employ those qualities.

I'm not sure the old way was ever truly sustainable anyway, at least for the long term. We went through growth for many years in part because women joined the workforce in huge numbers beginning in the 70s, creating two-income families that could afford more big houses, more cars, more big TVs, more stuff. That trend has slowed. Plus we have more and more retirees taking out of the entitlements what young people feed in. And manufacturing was outsourced to China so we could continue to buy cheap merchandise at the Wal-Mart. But good-paying jobs for the middle class vanished as a result. And now we are finding there's a hidden price for cheap goods. Add to that ever-rising higher education, health-care and food costs, and many of us don't seem to have as much money as we did 10 years ago.

Eventually we'll figure out that some degree of cooperation from all sides will serve America better than bitterness and rancor. Maybe we need to look at the way we live and figure out a way to consume less, grow our own food, and live more simply, a little more independently.

Obama looks better and better to most Americans when compared to the Klown Kar Kandidates, even to the WSJ and some Republicans.

"Not everyone played to form after Tuesday's State of the Union address by President Obama.

Republicans as different as Rep. James Lankford (Okla.) and Darrell Issa (Calif.) -- often pointed to as Obama's chief nemesis -- had praise for the commander in chief."

www.huffingtonpost.com

Not only do they deserve to lose, but I believe they never tried to win. Look at the jokes they put up. The only real candidate, as was said upthread was Huntsman and they all but condemned him to Hell. A Mormon AND Obama appointee?

We already know my theory as to why, so I won't repost it.

Not only do they deserve to lose, but I believe they never tried to win.

#23 | Posted by kanrei at 2012-01-25 03:28 PM |

Seems that way, doesn't it?

The irony here is that Murdoch is shitting his pants because the crazed monster he created for 2010 is still wandering the earth and is now going after his beloved GOP.

Frankenbagger-it Lives!

At least until the RNC smartens up and smacks it down.

#12

I cannot honestly understand the hatred and anger that is coming from the right.

1. Racism

2. OTC Drugs

3. Religious bigotry

4. Insecurity resulting from ignorance

5. False sense of entitlement

6. etc.

the DR Left won't get what Stephens is saying, they will only focus on the GOP...Lose aspect of the article.

The main reason I posted this was to prove this point, and all the prior posts have done exactly that.

What is so easily glossed over by the usual suspects is Stephens' litany of failure:

1. Obama can't get the economy out of second gear.
2. Obama cynically betrayed his core promise as a candidate to be a unifying president.
3. Obama keeps blaming Bush for pretty much everything.
4. Obama thinks ATMs are weapons of employment destruction.
5. Tim Geithner remains secretary of Treasury.
6. Obama's idea of a "reset" with Russia is Moscow selling fighter jets to Damascus.
7. Obama's name is synonymous with the most unpopular law in memory.
8. Michelle Obama thinks America doesn't deserve her husband as President.
9. Obama's "Evel Knievel" theory of fiscal stimulus isn't going to make it over the Snake River Canyon of debt.

All that most of the lefties who have posted above can see is "GOP...Lose" and get all lathered up without addressing the fact that the American public is sick of the Obamessiah.

Partisanship at its finest, keep up the "good" work regardless of reality.

"the fact that the American public is sick of the Obamessiah."

Well, if that's true, you have nothing to worry about. They'll vote him out in November.

BillO-

If you read the article, the point is that the GOP hasn't provided a better alternative, which isn't saying much. To make it easy for you so you don't have to put down the bong, I will repost the premise:

[I]t doesn't matter that Americans are generally eager to send Obama packing. All they need is to be reasonably sure that the alternative won't be another fiasco.
Since the GOP is sending in the B-team, we will be stuck with Barry for longer than we should, which is unfortunate for us all...

"put down the bong"

Get out of your Mom's basement!

Get out of your Mom's basement!

#30 | Posted by nullifidian at 2012-01-25 04:26 PM

Clever, did you make that one up yourself?

RoC,

1 and 5 have the ring of truth the rest is just bullshit.

As long as you continue to make shit like that up the GOP is doomed, which is the point of the article.

Obama's core promise was CHANGE and he has betrayed that bigtime. Healthcare and the economy remain in a half baked condition, yet tiny measurable improvements have occurred. We have seen that health insurance companies face rebating egregious rate increases which they took not for any increases in their cost basis, but just because the door to egregious rate increases was being shut. We are beginning to feel the benefits of restrictions on pre-existing condition exemptions. The balance of trade, unemployment, and deficit plots bottomed out under Shrub and have seen small improvements. The same can't be said for the housing market collapse created by the Libertarian "no change" economic team. We have yet to reach the botom on that. Obama deserves his share of blame for that.

Clever, did you make that one up yourself?

#31 | Posted by Rightocenter

About as clever as "put down the bong". Did you invent that one?

#27 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2012-01-25 04:07 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

All fair points, but that doesnt change the fact that the way most (but especially this batch) of repubs run a campaign makes it sink before its launched.

Blame the Lib media for the way they handle campaign coverage all you want. This bunch of "Contenders" are running the worst campaigns ever seen and have the voter appeal of a child molester.

To post that you honestly believe one of these repubs will be in the white house is either disingenuous or a bad case of denial.

A debate between Mitt and Obama would be painful to watch. Obama tried to be respectful of Mcains age, service and dedication to the country. And that was painful to watch. Obama will not extend the same to anyone of these Repubs. And not one of them can hold a stick to Obamas debating skills.

The race for the presidencywas over a long time ago fellas, stop this madness and think about who is going to run next time.

The same can't be said for the housing market collapse created by the Libertarian "no change" economic team. We have yet to reach the botom on that. Obama deserves his share of blame for that.

LOL... Why because F/F have restricted their guidelines due to Frank/Dodd, and even though rates and housing prices are at record lows, after three years we are still looking at another 3-4 before any signifigant recovery?

Yet Obama deserves HIS share of blame? You do understand he had both Houses of Congress, and got HAMP and other Gov loan mods which were complete failures. You also know they are responsible for stopping banks from foreclosing which spilled into states acting on their own, has restricted short sales from going through in a timely manner, and pretty much did everything they could think of to maintain a weak housing recovery.

Nut-

Probably one of your more thoughful posts in a long time, well done (I really mean that.)

All I did was cut and paste from the article, and I tend to agree with you on almost all points.

The point of the article, however, is not that the GOP is doomed, but that the stars of the party, such as they are, are safely on the sidelines this electoral cycle, which is a shame. The GOP, with this slate, is practically "mailing it in", by not putting their best candidate forward.

That, to me, is the biggest problem and one that everyone is going to pay for over the next 4 years, regardless of who is (re)elected.

About as clever as "put down the bong". Did you invent that one?

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2012-01-25 04:33 PM

Nice..."I know you are but what am I?"

Come to think of it, my parents "basement" is, in fact, a wine cellar, which would be a pretty good place to surf the web. Pity that they live 300+ miles away from LA.

"Nice..."I know you are but what am I?""

Nice, you use a Drudge cliche and get annoyed when it's responded to with another Drudge cliche. Aren't you late for your fry-cook shift at BK? :)

You both need to get laid.

Nice try, but if we can get half of what helped make the turn around in 2010 in 2012...Odummer will be one and done. No sitting POTUS can withstand this high of an unemployment rate. But then again they're obviously making more money sittin on their lazy asses with Odummer at the controls, so who knows. My guess is they'd all better get up, dust off and get ready to go back to work. Americas 2008 brain fart lives on. NOBAMA 2012.

You both need to get laid.

#39 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

You need to get back on your meds.

If anyone other than Ron Paul gets nominated, I'm fine with another four years of Obama, so long as Dems don't have full control of Congress. He's incapable of getting anything done anyways. If Romney or Gingrich get elected, that means they're the candidate again in 2016. If Obama wins in 2012, at least in 2016 the Republicans could run a better candidate. I'm thinking Chris Christie, Rand Paul or Paul Ryan.

TaKesReamming82 mops floors for a living.

"I'm thinking Chris Christie, Rand Paul or Paul Ryan.

#42 | Posted by JOE

Nothing libertarian about those clowns. On the other hand, if Gary Johnson could make a decent showing this year, the RNC might not be able to keep him off the debate stage in 2016.

The race for the presidencywas over a long time ago fellas, stop this madness and think about who is going to run next time.

The GOPpers problem is they can't decide what they want to be-stable center-right oir abtshit crazy teabaggers. Until the Party picks one, they're gonna have trouble running a candidate they're willing to vote for.

If anyone other than Ron Paul gets nominated,

Joe-get your Obama/Biden 2012 bumper sticker before they get sold out. Paul ain't ever gonna be a Presidential nominee, even he admits it.

Nothing libertarian about those clowns.

Hard for you to say that about Rand Paul. They are probably the only major-party politicians I'd vote for.

Oh, and Scott Walker, just to see Zed's head explode.

Aren't you late for your fry-cook shift at BK? :)

Can't help it, your mother is insatiable. :)

You can make all the lists you want about Obama's failures. But the fact of the matter is, Republicans dropped the ball with their selection of nominees.

If one, ONE, sane candidate was available, Obama would be on his way out. But the GOTPers prove that most of America isn't ready for a nut job, pro rape, anti abortion, misogynist, homophobic, brain dead, warmongering, fascist sitting in the white house.

We prefer the pussy socialist that can't keep a single promise and needs a Telepromter to explain why he is continuing all of Bush Jr's policies. Policies, I might add, that the right wingers applauded, until Obama did the same thing, then they started booing.

I was listening on the radio this morning. A Republican voter stated something close to this: "We don't want to have a candidate for president who is like FDR, who does things just because they work".

Out of the mouths of babes. Explains much, yes?

Republicans have painted themselves into a corner with a narrow view of the world and narrow minded candidates.

Romney will win the rethug nomination and be the next POTUS in 2012.

All that most of the lefties who have posted above can see is "GOP...Lose" and get all lathered up without addressing the fact that the American public is sick of the Obamessiah.

What an idiot.

Why do people speak for "American public" when they're clearly wrong?

BTW, much of that list is partisan shit so try again.

JPW-

That list is a cut and paste, why don't you read the article for once before opening your piehole.

And thank you for proving mindlessly proving my point, yet again.

"That list is a cut and paste, why don't you read the article for once before opening your piehole."

Why read the article when you were so kind to cut and paste whatever you thought was important? And btw, can your posts stand on their own or do they always require supplementary reading?

And btw, can your posts stand on their own or do they always require supplementary reading?

#55 | Posted by nullifidian at 2012-01-25 09:20 PM

lol

Ouch.

finished LoD...u ready?

Oh, I thought you were going to message in game, I just now refreshed this page after signing out.

I'll be on again tomorrow if you're around.

big tease...

I never friend-ed you, couldn't remember your name, and the replay doesn't show chat, so i fucked that all up

We need more of this. When we get them to accept the facts of complete and utter failure from the highest level of their Government early on, then create an emotional stir with rhetoric without any actualy facts listed - just Visit generalizations - we can distract them from the reality of having another four years of complete and utter failure from the highest level of their Government.
After all, [i]they[/i] deserve what's coming to their greedy asses. Right?

Baaah

By then maybe Republicans will have figured out that if they don't want to lose, they shouldn't run with losers.

This is a veiled reference to the far right wing of the GOP (the Tea Party?) that seems to be in control of their agenda. If not for the far right wing, more acceptable candidates may have tossed their hats into the ring. Furthermore, when you consider that right wing talk radio is fueling the far right of the GOP, the GOP is not likely to win at the national level until they take on the Limbaughs and Hannitys of right wing talk radio.

More Americans want to send Rupert Murdoch packing than Obama. He's squandered all the credibility the WSJ ever had. The good news is that he'll probably be dead soon; like most republicans

"It is my opinion that is not based on any real facts that:
'more Americans don't have a fucking clue who Rupert Murdoch is."

Fixed that for you #62

well this heavily opinionated article writen by a Rightwinger got one thing right...

"the GOP deserves to lose"...

a few words to think about concerning the GOP:

PONTIFICATING
OBSTRUCTIONISM
LYING
HYPOCRACY
CRONYISM
ELITISM
CORPORATOCRACY
FORGETFULNESS

all this probably spells good times for the O'man come November...

#64 | Posted by earthmuse

As if those accusations don't also apply to the Dems...

And btw, can your posts stand on their own or do they always require supplementary reading?

#55 | Posted by nullifidian at 2012-01-25 09:20 PM

That's usually your problem (along with most of the other knee-jerk posters on both sides in the DR), you comment on an article without reading it...

RIF

WSJ = FAUX News, print edition.

#67

Chalk up yet another DR Leftie that didn't bother to read the article.

"the stars of the party, such as they are, are safely on the sidelines this electoral cycle, which is a shame."

But the election cycle is not over.

The one consistent pattern from the beginning is that Romney can't get much more than 25 percent; we've seen a whole series of Anyone-but-Mitt candidates come and go. Gingrich is just the latest.

This creates a growing opportunity for a brokered convention and a draft movement for one of the stars. After all the nastiness is spilled about all the others, someone like Mitch Daniels can enter the game unspoiled.

He would be a fresh face and a voice of reason. That alone would disarm Obama's strategy, and put the focus back where it belongs: Obama's massive fail.

But, hey, I'm an optimist.

1. Obama can't get the economy out of second gear.

Because the Repubs are dragging their heels all the way. That's ALL they're doing.

2. Obama cynically betrayed his core promise as a candidate to be a unifying president.

The white guys' hate started before he even was sworn in. You can't unify that.

3. Obama keeps blaming Bush for pretty much everything.

Bush IS responsible for just about everything.

4. Obama thinks ATMs are weapons of employment destruction.

Huh? ABMs or ATMs? Please explain.

5. Tim Geithner remains secretary of Treasury.

Who? Why?

6. Obama's idea of a "reset" with Russia is Moscow selling fighter jets to Damascus.

How does that impact OUR economy?

7. Obama's name is synonymous with the most unpopular law in memory.

Slavery? Jim Crow? Limits on reproductive rights?

8. Michelle Obama thinks America doesn't deserve her husband as President.

Link, please. Our Rethugs DON'T deserve him.

9. Obama's "Evel Knievel" theory of fiscal stimulus isn't going to make it over the Snake River Canyon of debt.

Someone was just itching to use that line. But what does it mean? herm

Maybe the GOP deserves to lose. But...Obama deserves to lose even more. Obama v. Romney = Romney as POTUS #45
Anyone else v. Obama = Obama Redux

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