Joe Paterno Dead? Spokesman Denies CBS Report

A spokesperson for the Paterno family has denied a report by CBS that former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno has died. CBS previously reported that the 85-year-old college-football legend had succumbed in his battle with lung cancer.

What a conveniently timed, Ken Lay style death.

Even if he's not dead yet it sounds like his days are numbered.
Too bad it didn't happen to him a year earlier. He could have left an honorable legacy instead of a perverted fucking mess.

I would suggest that this may not be the best place for beating up on Joe Paterno.

Events here in PSU are changing quickly on what happened and I suspect the entire board of trusties will be out in the next 30 days or so. It is a shame that Paterno will not have the opportunity to give his statement.

It is a shame that Paterno will not have the opportunity to give his statement.

#4 | Posted by paneocon at 2012-01-21 10:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Or not..isn't that enough?

What could he possibly say?

rwd

"I suspect the entire board of trusties will be out in the next 30 days or so."

They been working at the Governor's mansion?

Why did Joe Paterno have to go and ruin my weekend?

Die already.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how old is Jerry Sandusky's boyfriend?

So ill he died.

The body reacts to the spirit. While he was hiding from the truth his health was deteriorating, and now that its public he can't even live with himself.

BWT, I lived in that State College PA for a couple years in the 1980s. That's one fucked up little town. I remember that Sandusky interview on TV too, he went on and on and it was just fucking weird/incredible.

Their stadium seats 90K, but the town population is only 30K, and the school is another 30K. But unlike other college towns (I like Ithaca) there was the Sandusky worship there, not much for parks/lakes/water, and the strip with all the bars was the biggest industry other than the secret govt funded place I worked (HRB). The right-wing-war mentality was quite a strange mix in that "college town" too - as in strange where a college seemed more right than left like most college towns. Like anti-pot but booze-max, and snobbish.

''Paterno last week made his first public comments since the Sandusky scandal in a widely publicized interview with Washington Post reporter Sally Jenkins.

In that interview, Jenkins described a frail Paterno whose "voice sounded like wind blowing across a field of winter stalks, rattling the husks."

Jenkins later described Paterno as "wracked by radiation and chemotherapy, in a wheelchair with a broken pelvis, and 'shocked and saddened' as he struggles to explain a breakdown of devastating proportions."''

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Doesn't sound good. CBS is stupid--as usual.

What is worse voting republican or molesting children?

On a scale of 1 to 10, how old is Jerry Sandusky's boyfriend?

1 to 10?

But... Sandusky goes up to eleven...

Even if he's not dead yet it sounds like his days are numbered.
Too bad it didn't happen to him a year earlier. He could have left an honorable legacy instead of a perverted fucking mess.
#3 | Posted by reitze at 2012-01-21 09:55 PM

Well, then he wouldn't suffer!? What kind of Christian are you, sir?! Besides, a slow motion episodic lynching makes great television instead of focusing on Rmoney's capitol gains scam.

#16 yea I know redlight.
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What is worse voting republican or molesting children?
#14 | Posted by jackass at 2012-01-22 01:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Voting for killers like "pro-life" AND ENSLAVEMENT, and/or SOCIALISM beyond national wealth while giving away the little we got left on borrowed fiat (Rep/Dem did that together).

Too bad it didn't happen to him a year earlier. He could have left an honorable legacy instead of a perverted fucking mess.
#3 | Posted by reitze at 2012-01-21 09:55 PM

Yeah, I am sure the boys that were raped would have felt much better about that.

#2. I am, and have been, the biggest JoePa detractor in Pa.

But dude that's just wrong... He's 85 years old and dying of cancer. He worked until the end.

What a sad commentary on life.

A man's reputation is tarnished because he forgot to change with the times. 'But, he didn't do anything to stop it', I hear you whining.

He also didn't stop the vietnam war or the assassination of the kennedy's, and niether did you.

So, let's just overlook all the contributions the man has made and shit all over his name, because our 'faux social outrage of the week' is offended.

Sports lost one of the greatest 'traditionalists' in the profession...there are a lot of questions regarding the 'scandal' to which he lost his position.. I do not ever think for one moment that Paterno endorsed the Sandusky problems, but probably did what he thought best at the very time he gained whatever knowledge he received and carried it to his superiors... he was punished for their lack of accountability and responsibility, nothing more..

Regardless of Sandusky (which is very despicable and wrong), it should not tarnish the great contribution that Paterno made to sports, youth development and loyalty to one's institution...

Before one judges so quickly, would any of us want to solely be judged in life by one situation, where, yes, maybe it could have been different, but it is what it is... look in the mirror; do you want your total legacy to be based on any one issue in your life????

Rest in peace...JoePa...!!!

What is worse voting republican or molesting children?

Vote republican this election and let us know.

"Too bad it didn't happen to him a year earlier. He could have left an honorable legacy instead of a perverted fucking mess."

Even worse when the ignorant masses are able to tarnish a honorable legacy. Hope the POS cowards like the Trustees at PSU, the
gutless NCAA, and the ignorant masses mentioned are proud they witnessed and spurned the demise of a great man and coach.

Can't wait to see all the press releases expressing grief, and then heaping praise two months after pissing on everything he has accomplished...

He knew what Sandusky was doing and didn't care. I wouldn't be suprised if he himself wasn't fucking young boys with Sandusky.

He was a pos and scum.

Hope the POS cowards like the Trustees at PSU, the
gutless NCAA, and the ignorant masses mentioned are proud they witnessed and spurned the demise of a great man and coach.

#23 | Posted by crispee_oc

I agree completely.

I hope they are haunted for eternity by having to live within thier own childish heads.

It is a known sociological and anthropological fact that one great person can carry thousands, even millions, in the wake of their own personal strengths. And to those millions, these great people give them hope.

Sure, football is just a game, but millions make a life for their families by working in the entertainment business. Who else has been a force in his field and a familiar face for 50 fuckin' years (other than the rolling stones)?

In Paterno's case, his method and his philosophy was as common as a Pennsylvania coal-miner, and sublime at the same time. What was his message? - work hard, be kind, be strong, be yourself.

One can immediately see why that message doesn't resonate nowadays.

He knew. He inexplicably chose to do nothing about it, and it literally ate him up inside. Tragic blot on the legacy of a man who otherwise would/should have been rightfully be remembered as a real legendary sportsman. I was never a fan of Penn State, but the man coached 46 seasons, winning 409 games. It's going to be awhile before anyone matches that record.

Pitiful to watch the coaching profession and the talking Professionals on ESPN talk about Coach Paterno, and just skip over Coach SILENCE FOR 10 YEARS WHILE YOUNG BOYS WERE BEING RAPED IN HIS LOCKER ROOMS AT PENN STATE!!!!!!!! Even Coach paterno confessed that he should have done more. Truly a great Coach not much of a Human Being when he was presented with the ultimate sin SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN....

"He knew. He inexplicably chose to do nothing about it, and it literally ate him up inside."

Yeah. He fucking testified before a grand jury, and did nothing about it. No offense, but you are one of the ignorant masses I mentioned upthread who have a big hand in tarnishing a legacy. Which I for one think ate him up more than that POS Sandusky. Most remember The Joe Paterno Award for Colleges best coach...

Though it pains me a great deal, I'm going to have to agree with that fucking twat, Celisary and Jackarse.

Joe knew what was going on in HIS showers and did nothing.

It's too bad he couldn't live long enough to do hard time in the State Pen. I'd like to know more about his involvement. I can't imagine being a head coach, and knowing a guy I see daily is butt-fucking young boys in my locker room. I'd like to know more about Joe's involvement. The Penn State football program needs to be shut down, no one who is there is guiltless. I'm sure everyone knew, and let it happen. Shame on Paterno!

"Though it pains me a great deal, I'm going to have to agree with that fucking twat, Celisary and Jackarse."

lol It should pain you. For being dumb enough to think this was going on in public under Paterno's nose and he scould have or should have known or done something. Major college coaches don't spend a lot of time in the fucking lockeroom. They do not monitor their asst. coaches outside practice and game films.

Anyone who implies Paterno had any hand, may as well accuse him of being in the shower. Give the stupid of what they want...

Paterno was a great guy--a good egg.

He did what he thought was the right thing by telling his superiors about the incident with Sandusky in 2002. They dropped the ball--not him.

Should he have done more?

He understood absolutely that he should have done more in 2002. Hindsight is a perfect 20/20.

He had hundreds of people in front of his house supporting him when he was fired.

His words--his words --were about the victims and they should be talking and thinking about them--the ones who became victims after 2002.

He had great values--great inspiration--a positive affect on thousands of people.

That is his legacy.

Hopefully his last thoughts were how he allowed a pedophile to ruin the life of a young boy. Now he knows what it feels like to be helpless to change events.

Just telling someone, whomever that was, isn't enough. The dumb bastart should have followed up on it and pursued it until Sandusky was in handcuffs. Then, I would have had some respect for him.

"Hopefully his last thoughts were how he allowed a pedophile to ruin the life of a young boy. Now he knows what it feels like to be helpless to change events."

Add logicrules to the growing list of contrast like commonsense, truthhurts, AmericanUnity... All ignorant, classic libs of course, and all far from living up to their log in names.

Sorry Crispee, Joe will always be remembered as the coach who allowed young boys to be butt fucked in his shower, and perhaps was more involved in it than has come out.

Ok, he told his superiors. Why didn't he call them the next day and ask what they were doing about it? Why didn't he call a press converence the next week?

I would have, of course I'm strongly opposed to raping young boys. I guess Joe wasn't.

"No offense, but you are one of the ignorant masses I mentioned upthread who have a big hand in tarnishing a legacy."

Paterno tarnished his own legacy. Sandusky still had an office at Penn State and was bringing kids on campus after Paterno knew he fucked a kid in the shower. The idea that he did all he could doesn't hold a drop of water. Maybe he convinced himself that Sandusky may was innocent. But reacting to the news of Sandusky's crime with convenient denial is a moral failing in itself. If you want to say he did alot of good and that needs to be remembered too, then fine. But I'm sick of all the apologists pretending that he reacted appropriately to the news that his buddy was fucking kids in his locker room. At the very least, Sandusky should have been banned from campus and Paterno certainly had the power to do that. Instead, he allowed Sandusky to use his football program to lure more rape victims.

"I would have, of course I'm strongly opposed to raping young boys."

Exactly. These retards want us to believe the man was a saint when he obviously didn't give a shit about a ten year old being raped in his locker room. Ridiculous. Part of any decent reaction to such news is to ask after the kid.

"I would have, of course I'm strongly opposed to raping young boys."

Exactly. These retards want us to believe the man was a saint when he obviously didn't give a shit about a ten year old being raped in his locker room. Ridiculous. Part of any decent reaction to such news is to ask after the kid.

"Sorry Crispee, Joe will always be remembered as the coach who allowed young boys to be butt fucked in his shower, and perhaps was more involved in it than has come out."

As I posted upthread, you and the ignorant masses are somewhat correct and got your way. Like I also posted, put him in the shower with them like you just did.

"Ok, he told his superiors. Why didn't he call them the next day and ask what they were doing about it? Why didn't he call a press converence the next week?"

You do understand he testified before a grand jury, right? HTF can you dismiss that and argue he simply told his superiors? Let me help you out... The school, town and most of the insiders knew and reacted the same way as Paterno.

R.I.P JOE PATERNO. Its unfortunate all the vemon and hate is going YOUR way, rather than towards the intended targets....the Police, the District Attorney back in the late nineties, the PRESIDENT OF PENN STATE. Basically, all those involved that are way up the food chain compared Joe Pa. Actually, wasn't it Joe Paterno who had nothing to do with any of the rapes??? Yea...that's what I thought. Wasn't Joe Paterno who brought MILLIONS of dollars to Penn State. Yea...that's what I thought.

As usual, leave it to SULLY to be politically correct in his last retort. Grow a pair, Sully.

"Paterno tarnished his own legacy. Sandusky still had an office at Penn State and was bringing kids on campus after Paterno knew he fucked a kid in the shower. The idea that he did all he could doesn't hold a drop of water."

The ignorance and emotions just come out of you Sally in these type of threads. The fact you actually think it was Paterno's responsibility to babysit his asst coach is fucking laughable. Paterno is the fucking HC. He has bosses IE the school. If you think Paterno knew more or should have done more than the Trustees at PSU, the District Attorney, the Grand Jury etc, then you are as stupid as they come pal...

"As usual, leave it to SULLY to be politically correct in his last retort. Grow a pair, Sully."

My opposition to child rape has nothing to do with politics, you piece of shit. I'm sorry that you allow your hero worship to interfere with basic human morality but trust me: It is your problem, not mine.

"The ignorance and emotions just come out of you Sally in these type of threads. The fact you actually think it was Paterno's responsibility to babysit his asst coach is fucking laughable. "

Actually, you are the emotional one here. You worship Paterno as a hero and when he's rightfully criticized for enabling child rape you screech "Not my Joe!"..... He had a responsibility, after learning that a kid was raped in HIS locker room, to ensure it didn't happen again. If you honestly believe otherwise, then you aren't as opposed to child rape as a normal person. If that is the case, this is not something you should be flaunting so openly.

But I suspect that if this was some unknown small time coach, the little bit of common sense you have would be working in this case.

#42 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2012-01-22 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag

Agreed. The sheeple that are blasting Paterno don't even know, or care, about the details of the investigation. The trial hasn't even begun, and posters like Sully and North guy, have the case all figured out. Ignorance and Stupidity are alive and well on the DR. You are presumed innocent and have to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Amazing how people on the DR are ignornant about due process.

"If you honestly believe otherwise, then you aren't as opposed to child rape as a normal person. If that is the case, this is not something you should be flaunting so openly."

Honestly believe otherwise? You have Paterno in the fucking shower, and then pull some shit that anyone who does't agree isn't opposed to child rape? Go away you pathetic useless POS. Keep ptetending you have a fucking clue about college coaches, athletics and trustees much less this case at PSU.

What fucking moron continues to ignore the events by everyone outside the HC's office? How long before they are smartet than fifth grader and put the blame on those who had the authority via moral or legal?

My opposition to child rape has nothing to do with politics, you piece of shit.

#43 | Posted by Sully at 2012-01-22 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

PATERNO WASNT THE RAPIST YOU FUCKING JACKASS...IT WAS SANDUSKY. Use your fucking brain to figure it out. If you're so gung ho about it, get out of your Jersey swamp apartment, gather a lynch mob and go find Sandusky. Fucking idiot.

"The sheeple that are blasting Paterno don't even know, or care, about the details of the investigation."

Ridiculous. Anyone with normal set of human morals (meaning strong opposition to child rape) and who obejectively looks at the events that took place and the order in which they took place would have to conclude that Paterno at best looked the other way and allowed Sandusky to continue to use the Penn State facilities to lure boys. Paterno saw Sandusky on campus with boys AFTER he knew of the show incident. The man wasn't retarded. He could put two and two together and had to know those kids were in danger yet continued to allow Sandusky to use HIS facilities. No excuse for that. You can attack the other posters all you want but you're taking a pro-child rape position, you piece of shit.

43 | Posted by Sully at 2012-01-22 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where's your blood thirst for Sandusky? The police who knew about it? The District Attorney? The President?

Actually, do you even know the details of the case? Doubt it.

"But I suspect that if this was some unknown small time coach, the little bit of common sense you have would be working in this case."

That is the point you dumb fuck. I do actually know about the big and small college programs. I was involved with HS scouting for all football scholarships. Division 1,2,3 NAIA etc. I visited many campuses, saw more than my share of practices and understand wtf goes on. HC's are rarely seen, and most practices are run by Asst.

No surprise...I said when he was terminated that I gave him six months.

"PATERNO WASNT THE RAPIST YOU FUCKING JACKASS...IT WAS SANDUSKY."

Dumbass, anyone who is opposed to child rape wouldn't have allowed Sandusky to keep bringing kids on campus AFTER finding out Sandusky raped a kid on campus. This is not that hard a point to understand. That you made me explain this to you shows that you not only a lack of basic morality but are pretty stupid to boot.... You should be ashamed to be making excuses for this.

#47 | Posted by Sully at 2012-01-22 12:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you even read my retorts??? Blame the legal authorities. They fucked up. Not the HC, who forced Sandusky out of PSU in 1999.

"Where's your blood thirst for Sandusky? The police who knew about it? The District Attorney? The President?"

Sandusky should not be allowed to live. Anyone else involved in the cover up should be prosectued to the fullest extent possible. This thread is about Paterno. Paterno's reaction to these events proves he's no saint.

"Actually, do you even know the details of the case? Doubt it."

Yes. And unlike you, I've actually THOUGHT about those details and how decent people would have reacted. Nobody at Penn State reacted as a decent person.

"Do you even read my retorts???"

Yes. They're stupid and gloss over the fact that Paterno let Sandusky use the campus and bring boys there AFTER he knew what Sandusky is.

"Not the HC, who forced Sandusky out of PSU in 1999."

Except he raped a kid on campus after 1999 and even after that was seen with young boys on campus, where he still maintained an office. These are facts. You can't gloss over them. Normal people don't let known child rapists set up shop in their athletic facilities the way Paterno did (again since you seem too retarded to follow, by letting Sandusky keep an office there and bring kids around campus).

"No surprise...I said when he was terminated that I gave him six months."

Yup.... Fucked up. Same thing happened to Chick Hearn when he broke his hip and never came out of the hospital.

It's sad Paterno went out like this, but it's his own fault. All he had to do was tell police. He couldn't manage to do that, so he'll be remembered in part for helping to cover up a serial child molester.

"Except he raped a kid on campus after 1999 and even after that was seen with young boys on campus, where he still maintained an office. These are facts. You can't gloss over them."

OK who pays Sandusky? Paterno? Are you really this fucking stupid, that you haven't figured out the school, DA, and city knew as much as Paterno? If you want to pretned to understand, start with the school trustees who RUN THE FUCKING FOOTBALL PROGRAM AND PAY THE COACHES. They also allowed Sandusky to run camps and bring kids on campus. Not Paterno you stupid liitle whining bitch.

"It's sad Paterno went out like this, but it's his own fault. All he had to do was tell police."

Like talking to a bunch of 10 YO's with ADD...Think maybe testifying before a Grand Jury trumps all he had to do was go tell the police?

This is exactly what I meant by that post upthread about the ignorant masses spitting on a legacy...

"If you want to pretned to understand, start with the school trustees who RUN THE FUCKING FOOTBALL PROGRAM AND PAY THE COACHES. They also allowed Sandusky to run camps and bring kids on campus. Not Paterno you stupid liitle whining bitch."

After his 4-7 season and the trustees asked Paterno to resign, what happened? Paterno told them to screw off and kept coaching. It was HIS program, HIS facilities and if HE didn't want a known pedophile using HIS football program to lure boys, he could have easily stopped it.

The idea that anyone had more control over Penn State football and its facilties than Joe Paterno did is assinine.

"Like talking to a bunch of 10 YO's with ADD..."

Dealing with you is like talking to some old sicko who doesn't see much wrong with fucking 10 year olds.

Paterno also associated himself with Sandusky and his foundation AFTER knowing Sandusky was a pedophile who was using that foundation to gain access to at-risk kids. So did that piece of shit McCreary, who actually saw a rap and kept associating with Sandusky. Making excuses for these people as if they didn't choose to ignore and indirectly enable Sandusky's crimes is disgusting.

No crisp you are wrong JoePa ran it all. What he said goes/went. 110% of the time, absolutely and with out question.

I think Sully has it right here. Paterno always covered up for his players. It was his program, and I hold him responsible for allowing Sandusky to remain on campus. There is no other way to look at it. Boys were molested, manipulated, and forever scarred by what occurred. His final words were something like 'I didn't know a man could rape another man'

Well it was an adult raping a kid. EVERYBODY knows what that means. If you from the 50-60's time frame perhaps you ignored it, but you knew what it was. For instance who didn't hear about all the Catholic Church homosexual abuse scandals??

Was he civilly liable? Maybe, maybe not. Morally liable? ABSOLUTELY.

On a positive note I will say his players had the highest graduation rate of any college football team in the country...for decades.

"Like talking to a bunch of 10 YO's with ADD..."

Dealing with you is like talking to some old sicko who doesn't see much wrong with fucking 10 year olds.

This from the moron who ignores Paterno testifyed before a Grand Jury and should have taken it upon himself to personally do something. Not the police, not the DA, not the Trustees... Does that not make you look as stupid as sand Sully? Think about it...

As usual Sally and vag conitue to argue anyone not as cowardly and stupid as him must be for child raping.

"Was he civilly liable? Maybe, maybe not. Morally liable? ABSOLUTELY."

Agreed. A decent human being doesn't do the minimal legally required of him upon finding out a kid was rape in a facility he runs. A decent person follows up on what happened to the kid. A decent person follows up on the investigation into Sandusky. A decent person bans Sandusky from the facilities. A decent person does something the next time he sees Sandusky with a kid. A decent person cuts ties between the football program and Second Mile instead of sending players to promote its events. A decent person doesn't sleep at night unless he does what he can to stop another kid from being raped by Sandusky. Joe Paterno passed the buck, pled ignorance and let Sandusky continue with business as usual. If you argue that Joe Paterno acted as a decent person in this regard, you have a fundamental failure to understand how depraved and damaging Sandusky's activities were.

"I think Sully has it right here. Paterno always covered up for his players. It was his program, and I hold him responsible for allowing Sandusky to remain on campus."

You need to understand what role the HC actually plays in a major college athletics like football. Granted it is his system and he controls the team, but he is not hands on in the lockeroom, not on the field 24/7 and again has multiple assts who run pretty much everything. He also has bosses and again who is to say the campus didn't tell him they would handle it?

Unless someone can address he did do something and forward the argument from there, stfu because you are talking out of your ass if you can't acknowledge that fact.

"A decent person follows up on the investigation into Sandusky. A decent person bans Sandusky from the facilities."

How many charges were filed by the DA? Get off this decent person crap you whining little bitch. Paterno never witnessed anything, or had any hand in the kids getting raped. Moron...

Think maybe testifying before a Grand Jury trumps all he had to do was go tell the police?

Paterno testified to the grand jury eight years after being told Sandusky was sexually abusing a 10-year-old boy in the locker room showers. How many more kids were molested over that time?

When you consider that Paterno was the highest-paid official at Penn State and one of the most powerful people in the state, and knew all the top state officials in the police and the governor, there's absolutely no excuse for him not to report the Sandusky allegation in 2002.

You should stop making excuses for him. All he had to do was tell police. Instead, he didn't and Sandusky was still on campus running youth football camps as recently as 2010.

"Paterno testifyed before a Grand Jury and should have taken it upon himself to personally do something."

Yes, retard. A decent human being would be disturbed by hearing about the kid raped in the shower and would be compelled to make sure no more kids are buttfucked in his shower facilties. You don't think having access to Penn State facilities and players didn't help Sandusky lure boys? Knowing Sandusky was a pedophile raping kids on campus, Paterno allowed Sandusky to continue to use his facilities and players to lure boys. If you argue that this is OK because "he was not required" to do anything more, you're are a pro-pedophilia piece of shit.

Anyway, I gotta head to where I'm going to watch football. I suppose you have to head to a NAMBLA meeting soon....

"Get off this decent person crap you whining little bitch."

Why don't you try being one for once, you sick old queen?

Granted it is his system and he controls the team, but he is not hands on in the lockeroom, not on the field 24/7 and again has multiple assts who run pretty much everything.

The buck stops at the head coach's desk and always has in college football.

Jim Tressel covered up the allegation that his players traded jerseys for tattoos.

Joe Paterno covered up the allegation that his ex-coach raped a 10-year-old boy in the team's showers.

Which is more serious?

Joe Paterno covered up the allegation that his ex-coach raped a 10-year-old boy in the team's showers.

"Which is more serious?"

Between your ignorance of events or politcal mindset? You didn't know he testifyed before a Grand Jury, and even after being told that, come up with some shit he tried to cover it up?

Move on rcade, I know it is your site, but you are as silly as Zed posting on this since you have no clue about any of the events...

"Why don't you try being one for once, you sick old queen?"

Have your bleeding vag point out one fucking post where I downplayed any kid getting raped or made one fucking comment to the contrary. You really are the biggest pussy here Sally. Congrats...

You didn't know he testifyed before a Grand Jury ...

"All he had to do in 2002 was call police."

As easy as that right rcade? Laughable...

Paterno described his relationship with Sandusky as "professional, not social." Sandusky left the program after the 1999 season, taking early retirement.

If Sandusky is guilty, "I'm sick about it," Paterno said.

Paterno said he wished he knew how allegations against Sandusky didn't come to light until years after the alleged assaults occurred. "I don't know the answer to that," he said. "It's hard."

In court testimony last month, McQueary said his account about the 2002 allegation to Paterno wasn't as detailed as what he relayed to Paterno's superiors out of respect for the older Paterno.

According to the Post, Paterno reiterated that McQueary was unclear with him about the nature of what he saw -- and added that even if McQueary had been more graphic, he's not sure he would have understood it.

"You know, he didn't want to get specific," Paterno said. "And to be frank with you I don't know that it would have done any good, because I never heard of, of, rape and a man. So I just did what I thought was best. I talked to people that I thought would be, if there was a problem, that would be following up on it."

As easy as that right rcade?

Yes. If you're told that an adult is engaging in sexual behavior with a child, you tell the witness, "Call the police or I will call them myself and tell them what you told me."

Paterno's excuse in the interview this month was pathetic. If he was old enough to coach a major college football team in 2002, he was old enough to know to call the police.

#76 | Posted by rcade at 2012-01-22 02:02 PM | Reply

Of course rcade. Certainly an easy call for the HC of a major football program to take it upon himself and put the University and its name in the news because a coach told him he THINKS Sandusky abused a kid in the shower.

Do you actually believe what you write? Do you libs all suffer from some righteous gene out of whack?

Certainly an easy call for the HC of a major football program to take it upon himself and put the University and its name in the news because a coach told him he THINKS Sandusky abused a kid in the shower.

You think Paterno should have protected the good name of Penn State over the possibility a kid was being raped in his locker room showers? That's completely indefensible.

Paterno admitted he made a mistake by not doing more than he did.

In that situation you call the police. It's their job to decide whether a crime needs to be investigated. Not yours.

Crisp I am from Pa, and can tell you there is a long history of 'covering' for shenagins by the college team.

Wanna go toe to toe on this? Fine. What's your take?

He heard that sandusky was seen 'with' a 12yr old boy in the shower. The asst reported it to Joe.

What should Joe have done? HE SHOULD HAVE KICKED HIS ASS OFF CAMPUS AND TOLD HIM NEVER TO COME BACK!!

I challenge you to justify ANY OTHER response!

Remember 'JoePa' had final say on everything on the Penn state campus.

He deferred to another? That's like a bank director recuse himself when his friend comes before the board for loan. It's the famous 'wink wink' which means he isn't against it.

I fail to see how you can fall back to 'he did his job he reported it'. His job was to KICK SANDUSKY IN THE MOUTH, and shove his foot up his ass!!

"I challenge you to justify ANY OTHER response!"

I agree with the fact Sandusy should have had his head handed to him. By the fucking POS who caught him. Per Paterno's own words, McCreary did not give him the entire story, and it would almost be laughable to think Paterno would have allowed any kid to be raped and would not have done something to make sure that wasn't happenng under his or anyone's watch....

Hey, I could easily be naive and info could come out and say Joe was as guilty as the masses claim. Either way, something in my gut tells me the University had more to do with the way it played out than Paterno.

#56 | Posted by rcade at 2012-01-22 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag

Paterno went to two higher ups, who didn't do shit about it. Why does ALL the responibility fall on Paterno????? Baffling. How about the D.A., who was given information from a mother that her son was molested. Or the campus and regular police that knew about the allegations. Sorry Rcade.....just like I told Sully.....Paterno was the scapegoat in a cover that went to the very top. Paterno is just a football coach.

You can attack the other posters all you want but you're taking a pro-child rape position, you piece of shit.

#47 | Posted by Sully at 2012-01-22 12:37 PM | Reply | Fl

Blah, blah, blah....alright..you got me!! I'm pro child rape because I don't have a compulsion to blast Joe Paterno, before a trial and evidence is even presented. Fuck that, and go fuck yourself New Jersey trash. You're probably an apologist for that fat fuck Chris Christie.

why am I not surprised peepee is defending the pedophile defender paterno

Do you even read my retorts??? Blame the legal authorities. They fucked up. Not the HC, who forced Sandusky out of PSU in 1999.

#52 | Posted by Redsoxfan

then why was he still allowed to use the facilities in 2002

in peepees mind paterno testifying in 2008 justifies his inaction in 2002, what a creepy joke he is

#82 It doesn't, nor does it exonerate Paterno.

He absolutely was in charge of the entire campus. What he said was..... what happened. If he deferred to ANYONE else, he was guilty by omission.

I completely agree that the others shared responsibility, but they weren't JoePa.

Now he's gone. I am prepared to ignore Joe's actions, and focus on trying to prevent these types of problems moving forward. No more free passes for college football players, ie no more covering up their rowdy, illegal behaviors. Many many a beatings have been hushed up by aggressive coach interference. This shit has to stop.

Let Joe rest in peace......

Acting like Joe Paterno's relationship with Penn State was the same thing as the coach at virutally any other University at the D-1 level is an absolute joke and disingenuous at best.

#31 | Posted by crispee_oc

Crispy,

I love college football and think JoePa was a GREAT coach over his many years. However, the timeline of Sandusky, and the Grand Jury report puts JoePA right in the middle of the entire damn mess.

March 2, 2002 -- According to the grand jury report, a graduate assistant allegedly tells Head Coach Joe Paterno that he saw Sandusky in the locker room shower the night before, performing anal sex on a young boy he estimated to be 10 years old.

March 3, 2002 -- Paterno reports the incident to Athletic Director Tim Curley, saying the graduate assistant had seen Sandusky "fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy," according to the grand jury. Later, the assistant is summoned to a meeting with Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz..
While the assistant later insisted to the grand jury that he told Curley and Schultz that he saw Sandusky and the boy engaged in anal sex, Curley and Schultz told the grand jury they had not been told of such an allegation. Instead, Curley said he had the impression the conduct amounted to nonsexual "horsing around." Schultz said he couldn't remember details but seemed to recall that "Sandusky might have inappropriately grabbed the young boy's genitals while wrestling," according to the grand jury. Sandusky's locker-room keys are confiscated, he is told not to bring his Second Mile participants to campus, and the incident is reported to the charity, but no law enforcement investigation is launched, according to the grand jury.

"The school, town and most of the insiders knew and reacted the same way as Paterno."

Which was to ignore it and do nothing. Failure to report a felony is a felony crime. Fuck. Even Moder8 knows that!

"If you think Paterno knew more or should have done more than the Trustees at PSU, the District Attorney, the Grand Jury etc, then you are as stupid as they come pal..."

How the fuck do you even mention that? Once again, ALL are GUILTY. The DA, Trustees and JoePa are all GUILTY of allowing rape to occur in the school showers.

Even Moder8 knows that!

#90 | Posted by Beachbuzz at 2012-01-22 09:26 PM | Reply

Speaking of Moder8; what happened to that bad boy?

#91 | Posted by matsop

New hours mopping stalls at the porn shop.

and it would almost be laughable to think Paterno would have allowed any kid to be raped and would not have done something to make sure that wasn't happenng under his or anyone's watch....

* * * *

And yet, that's exactly what did happen.

In one sense I feel sorry for Paterno. He realized right away that he would be sitting on a powder keg for the rest of his life, ready to blow his precious football program sky high in the biggest scandal in the history of sports. He was only hoping to run out the clock, if you'll excuse the phrase, and not live to see the day of reckoning.

Well, it didn't work out that way. He took the middle course, relieved Sandusky of his position, but knew that making a lot of noise about it would cause people to ask questions. So he let the guy keep a desk on campus, and continue to bring kids around, just without an "official capacity" as a coach.

I'm glad he lived long enough to see it, and see his football program in flames. The NCAA should give it the death penalty for 5 years, else they risk never being taken seriously ever again. "Hey. So some booster bought our quarterback a car. At least we're not Penn State." "So some high school recruits got drunk at a party. At least we're not Penn State." "So our running back beat up his mom's boyfriend. At least we're not Penn State." And so on. Shut it down.

Now he's gone. I am prepared to ignore Joe's actions, and focus on trying to prevent these types of problems moving forward. No more free passes for college football players, ie no more covering up their rowdy, illegal behaviors. Many many a beatings have been hushed up by aggressive coach interference. This shit has to stop.

* * * *

It stops by having the NCAA shut down the Penn State football program. In the future, we'll not allow the coaches, the trustees, the "community", the fans--to sweep the most monstrous of crimes under the rug just because your coach happens to win a few football games.

"Paterno went to two higher ups, who didn't do shit about it. Why does ALL the responibility fall on Paterno????? Baffling. How about the D.A., who was given information from a mother that her son was molested. Or the campus and regular police that knew about the allegations. Sorry Rcade.....just like I told Sully.....Paterno was the scapegoat in a cover that went to the very top. Paterno is just a football coach."

Paterno knew what he should have done, you do too. If necessary he should have gone to the press. He failed as a leader and now his reputation will never be the same, and that is how it should be.

Paterno went to two higher ups, who didn't do shit about it. Why does ALL the responibility fall on Paterno?

No one says all the responsibility falls on him. But after he told Schultz and Curley, he should have followed up when he saw no signs Sandusky was being investigated over the next several weeks. Paterno was one of the most powerful men in the state. All he had to do was pick up a phone.

Instead, he ignored the situation completely and ignored Sandusky's continued presence on campus the next eight years. And more kids were raped, if the charges are true.

"I'm pro child rape because I don't have a compulsion to blast Joe Paterno, before a trial and evidence is even presented. Fuck that, and go fuck yourself New Jersey trash. You're probably an apologist for that fat fuck Chris Christie."

In fairness, I don't know if you're pro child rape as an absolute. I only know that in this case you are pro child rape, because you condone Paterno's course of action which was to look the other way while a known child rapist continued to use Paterno's football program to lure boys for the purpose of raping them.

If you don't want to be called out on it, then don't take a public, pro-child-rape position.

"March 2, 2002 -- According to the grand jury report, a graduate assistant allegedly tells Head Coach Joe Paterno that he saw Sandusky in the locker room shower the night before..."

But according to Paterno:

In court testimony last month, McQueary said his account about the 2002 allegation to Paterno wasn't as detailed as what he relayed to Paterno's superiors out of respect for the older Paterno.

According to the Post, Paterno reiterated that McQueary was unclear with him about the nature of what he saw -- and added that even if McQueary had been more graphic, he's not sure he would have understood it.

"You know, he didn't want to get specific," Paterno said. "And to be frank with you I don't know that it would have done any good, because I never heard of, of, rape and a man. So I just did what I thought was best. I talked to people that I thought would be, if there was a problem, that would be following up on it."

So we have the same asst. coach telling Paterno, the AD and a trustee he saw something, and even though they got the graphic details, according to many here, Paterno should have called the cops and put this out there publicly, on his own and of course not adhere to his superiors at PSU?

Like I said, the ignorant masses were able to destroy a legacy.

So, let's just overlook all the contributions the man has made and shit all over his name, because our 'faux social outrage of the week' is offended.

#20 | Posted by Lipzoidial at 2012-01-22 09:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

How is it "faux" to be disgusted by what happened here? Anger over the rape of children, and an institutional response so lax as to qualify as cover-up, is not faux. It's very real. The system here, including Penn State's franchise, Joe Paterno, failed these kids. No doubt he was a great coach -- one of the best ever -- but I'm sorry, that greatness was tarnished by his milquetoast response to evidence presented to him. No, he's not the prime offender. No one can take that away from Sandusky. But Paterno didn't do enough. And when we're faced with something as monumentally tragic as the molestation of children, we have a higher responsibility than simply passing it up the chain of command.

Paterno should have called the cops and put this out there publicly, on his own and of course not adhere to his superiors at PSU?

No, he should have given the administration 48 hours to make their move. If they didn't, he should have gone to police and Pennsylvania DPW as required by law and forced the hand of his superiors to do their job.

See that's how paragons of virtue and integrity operate. As we now see with Paterno, being a paragon of virtue and integrity only extended to getting 18-21 year olds to sign at Penn State and to lock down speaking engagements at tens of thousands of dollars a pop.

When it came time for "a great man" to do something, he hid behind process and "I'm just a cog in the machine, doomed to stick to chain of command". When his leadership and integrity was needed most, he did just enough to keep himself from being legally accountable, while covering for his child rapist friend. He's fucking pathetic.

"So we have the same asst. coach telling Paterno, the AD and a trustee he saw something, and even though they got the graphic details, according to many here, Paterno should have called the cops and put this out there publicly, on his own and of course not adhere to his superiors at PSU?"

Blah blah blah. When you get to the part where it makes sense for Paterno to allow a known child molestor to keep an office at Penn State and bring kids on the campus after having been caught raping a kid on campus let us know.

"Blah blah blah. When you get to the part where it makes sense for Paterno to allow a known child molestor to keep an office at Penn State and bring kids on the campus after having been caught raping a kid on campus let us know."

When you figure out it was the school, and AD who associated and had direct contact with Sandusky, then open your yap.

Not that any whining pathetic pussy such as yourself deserves the attention on this. How many posters have you accused of being pro chld rape because they don't lower themselves to your level of a little bitch gone mad?

"When you figure out it was the school, and AD who associated and had direct contact with Sandusky, then open your yap."

LOL. Paterno had 100% control over that entire football program. You're a dummy.

"Not that any whining pathetic pussy such as yourself ...."

Oh, shut the fuck up already. You're a pathetic, astoudingly bitch-titted old man making sorry excuses for the inexcusable. Nobody gets their ass handed to them on this site more than you.

I think Paterno's reputation will be forever tarnished by this, but if his superiors get a walk on this, then a travesty will have occurred.

If Paterno did in fact tell them and they did nothing, they aided and abetted in a felony.

If he didn't tell them what had been relayed to him, they fired him without due process in order to save their own asses.

I'm not a Penn State guy, but it seems to me that no matter how you slice it, Paterno's bosses were guilty of something.

"LOL. Paterno had 100% control over that entire football program. You're a dummy."

Great, wtf does that have to do with Sandusky using PSU as a front to rape little boys? Are you even remotely aware of the events? He was let go in 1998. What he did on campus has nothing to do with Paterno or the fucking football team. It has to do with the AD, trustees and whoever else had contact with him on a regular basis and allowed him the facilities.

"Oh, shut the fuck up already. You're a pathetic, astoudingly bitch-titted old man making sorry excuses for the inexcusable. Nobody gets their ass handed to them on this site more than you."

I know Sally. In your world comments like these means YOU handed someone their ass...

"If you honestly believe otherwise, then you aren't as opposed to child rape as a normal person."

I am sure I am not the only one who did not hear of Joe Paterno until after the child-rape story came out. He seemed to have had an amazing career and many people seem to love him, but to many more people, he will always be that guy who said nothing when he should have spoken up; right or wrong.

"I'm not a Penn State guy, but it seems to me that no matter how you slice it, Paterno's bosses were guilty of something."

Big differnce. Somehow here you have morons like Sally thinking Paterno controlled the fucking lockeroom at PSU. The HC is somehow in charge and responsible and not the AD?

HTF does one take a fool like that serious? They don't. They simply put him in the ignorant masses who tarnished a legacy...

"Great, wtf does that have to do with Sandusky using PSU as a front to rape little boys?"

Are you retarded? Your defense of Paterno is entirely centered around him having no power over the football program. Nobody believes that bullshit, not even you. Reality is that Paterno had COMPLETE control over the football program.

"What he did on campus has nothing to do with Paterno or the fucking football team."

He brought kids to football practices after 2002. Football players participated in Second Mile vents after 2002. This claim of yours is demonstrably untrue. The football team interacted with Sandusky and his victims on campus well after 2002.

If you are opposed to child rape, then why are you knowingly making factually incorrect excuses for people who enabled a pedophile? Why would you go to such great lengths to make this much of an ass of yourself unless you harbor sympathy of kid-touchers? It makes no sense. Every excuse you post here is more ridiculous than the last. Why do you feel this desperate need to lie to protect any of the scumbags involved in this cover up?

"Are you retarded? Your defense of Paterno is entirely centered around him having no power over the football program. Nobody believes that bullshit, not even you. Reality is that Paterno had COMPLETE control over the football program."

You pathetic retard... Are you this fucking stupid? Sandusky was let go in 1998 you fucking whining bitch. You have no idea wtf a HC does. You actually think he runs the fucking lockeroom at PSU like it is some HS facility. Look up Atletic Director you pathetic tool.

For the 7th time get it through your head and slit Sally. The football team and Paterno were not who Sandusky needed or used to gain entry into the LOCKERROOM OR PSU CAMPUS.

"The football team and Paterno were not who Sandusky needed or used to gain entry into the LOCKERROOM OR PSU CAMPUS."

LOL. Yeah anyone can just have an office over there. Has nothing to do with his relationship with the football program.

Do you even think about what you're saying a little bit before you post it? Its just drivel upon drivel....

"If you are opposed to child rape, then why are you knowingly making factually incorrect excuses for people who enabled a pedophile?"

WTF isn't opposed to child rape Sally? WTF does that have to do with your pussy showing on this thread?

Factually? Are you fucking stupid? There are no facts yet dumb ass.
Other than a kid got raped, and maybe it brings back bad memories as a victim is all YOU got...

In other news JoePa suddenly drops after finding out he's actually been dead for 10 years, and no one had the balls to tell him.

"LOL. Yeah anyone can just have an office over there. Has nothing to do with his relationship with the football program."

One more time moron... He was LET GO AS A COACH IN 1998. The campus not the fucking HC gave him an office. Gave him a key, gave him permission.

Before you had Paterno in charge of the lockerroom, now you have him in charge of the Athletc Department as well? You pathetic ignorant fool. Must suck to go through menopause like symptoms...

"He brought kids to football practices after 2002. Football players participated in Second Mile vents after 2002. This claim of yours is demonstrably untrue. The football team interacted with Sandusky and his victims on campus well after 2002."

Before your whining vag was ignorantly putting Joe in the shower. Now you want to go into after 2002? Why? So you can have more reason to look stupid and open your ignorant yap after having it shut?

"The campus not the fucking HC gave him an office. Gave him a key, gave him permission."

Let's assume for a second that this isn't bullshit even though we both know it is:

Even if it were true, how do you explain Sandusky showing up to Penn State practices with boys? You going to tell me Paterno couldn't have stopped that? LOL. What about Penn State players respresenting Penn State Football at 2nd mile events well after 2002? Second Mile was used by Sandusky to procure children. Why would Paterno send his players over there to help him with his events?

You seem to want to say that everyone is blame but Paterno. As if he was living in a vaccuum. Doesn't hold a drop of water. Paterno was as much a part of the cover up as anyone else. They are all to blame. They are all scum. None of them deserve a pass no matter how good they were at their jobs.

"Now you want to go into after 2002? Why? So you can have more reason to look stupid and open your ignorant yap after having it shut?"

You haven't shut anyone up. You've yet to make even one intelligent comment or anything approaching a lucid defense of Paterno.

I don't understand the need to go out of one's way to defend Paterno. He lived a great life, was considered by many to be a king, if not a god of the culture. If he did wrong, he didn't have to really pay a price for it beyond being let go from a job weeks before you die.

"You haven't shut anyone up. You've yet to make even one intelligent comment or anything approaching a lucid defense of Paterno."

LMAO... You of course have him in the fucking lockeroom 24/7, thought he gave Sandusky a key, and of course had no fucking clue Sandusky was not part of PSU football in 2002. Yet you try and school me on events? You are a fucking riot Sally. Now lay down...

Nobody gets their ass handed to them on this site more than you.

#103 | Posted by Sully

You've clearly forgotten about Northgay, donnerboy, and darthcheney.

"I don't understand the need to go out of one's way to defend Paterno. He lived a great life, was considered by many to be a king, if not a god of the culture. If he did wrong, he didn't have to really pay a price for it beyond being let go from a job weeks before you die."

Not defending Paterno, and admitted upthread I could be the naive one if everything comes out. I am simply defending this statement:

"Even worse when the ignorant masses are able to tarnish a honorable legacy. Hope the POS cowards like the Trustees at PSU, the
gutless NCAA, and the ignorant masses mentioned are proud they witnessed and spurned the demise of a great man and coach."

Long story short, if you don't think JoPa fucked up, you don't think.

The guy can't simultaneously be a god of coaches, a pillar of the community, an all powerful campus icon, friend of the president, and then all of a sudden be powerless to stop a kiddie raper that used JoPa's facilities to lure more young boys in.

When that ginger Mick QB coach dies, you'll see people shit on him, too. As it stands, JoPa got off easy by dying so quickly after being outed as a child rape enabler.

Fuck him, and fuck his defenders.

"LMAO... You of course have him in the fucking lockeroom 24/7,"

Never said that. I said that Paterno should have been concerned that a kid was rape in Paterno's locker room. He doesn't have to live there 24/7 to not want kids buttraped in his locker him. You see, those of us who are opposed to child raped don't have to see the child being raped to know its wrong and oppose it.

"thought he gave Sandusky a key,"

Never said that. I said he allowed Sandusky to have an office at PSU, which is true.

"and of course had no fucking clue Sandusky was not part of PSU football in 2002."

What I said is that he was on campus in the football facilities with kids and at PSU football practice with kids after he was caught buttraping a kid at PSU in 2002. How you equate that with his having a coaching job can't be rationally explained. Your thought processes are not rational. I can't be the first person to tell you you're an idiot. Be honest, what is your IQ? 85 or so? You've obviously tested as below average intelligence at some point.

"Yet you try and school me on events?"

Any schooling you've had was an obvious waste. I'm telling you that you are wrong both morally and factually. I don't expect you to understand why. You lack the intelligence and morality to do so. I assume, being as stupid as you are, you are only alive today because others have helped you. I am only trying to help you by telling you what is. I am not trying to help you figure it out on your own because you can't. Paterno's actions were that of someone who didn't give a fuck that his friend was using his football program to buttrape boys. That makes Paterno a bad guy too. Again: You don't understand why and that's fine. Just know that it is so.

"When that ginger Mick QB coach dies, you'll see people shit on him, too. As it stands, JoPa got off easy by dying so quickly after being outed as a child rape enabler."

If that is true and karma exists, they will be dropping like flies. No less than 50 players, coaches, officials and the charity itself all enabled Sandusky. Hell most of the fucking div 1 programs new something was amiss. The most qualified coach in the nation doesn't get one call after leaving PSU?

"Never said that. I said that Paterno should have been concerned that a kid was rape in Paterno's locker room."

It ain't his lockeroom moron. You were obviously a victim and somehow think there is a parallel to the coach who did it to you...

"When that ginger Mick QB coach dies, you'll see people shit on him, too. As it stands, JoPa got off easy by dying so quickly after being outed as a child rape enabler."

McQueery is ten times worse than Paterno. IMO, that Paterno still had that shitbag working there was another smudge on Paterno's record. Paterno should have thrown him out the minute he found out that he left Sandusky in the locker room with the child after seeing what he saw.

"Never said that. I said he allowed Sandusky to have an office at PSU, which is true."

And I said only a fucking retard would think the HC and not the AD or campus gave him the office. For the 8th time Sandusky was let go in 1998. Meaning any connection to PSU was via permission of the CAMPUS, not Paterno. Now go wipe your slit again Sally...

"It ain't his lockeroom moron."

Oh yeah, the PSU football locker room wasn't considered "Paterno's". I'm sure he NEVER used the term "my locker room" to refer to it. LOL

"You were obviously a victim and somehow think there is a parallel to the coach who did it to you..."

And keep your pervy fantasies private. Most kiddie touchers were molested themselves. If either one of us was molested, its more likely to be the guy who makes exucses for people who allowed the crime to occur on their watch. That would be you.

"And keep your pervy fantasies private. Most kiddie touchers were molested themselves. If either one of us was molested, its more likely to be the guy who makes exucses for people who allowed the crime to occur on their watch. That would be you."

Which is why anyone who doesn't see it through your victim like eyes is pro child rape? You poor bastard, I aplogize for your changes as an adult and won't go after your feminine side anymore Sally...

"Meaning any connection to PSU was via permission of the CAMPUS, not Paterno."

That's total bullshit. Paterno could have and had a moral obligation to ban him from the facilities. You don't know because you are dumb and amoral.

"You've clearly forgotten about Northgay, donnerboy, and darthcheney."

Lispee Old Coot routinely gets housed by these three.

Crisp,
Of course it was paterno's locker-room. I can all but garauntee you that his "bosses" didn't scratch their asses without checking with JoPa to see if it was OK.
He was PSU.

Making even a slight excuse for him shows a staggering lack of understanding, IMO. And the bullshit about him not knowing a man (boy) could be raped? Was Paterno retarded or something?

"Which is why anyone who doesn't see it through your victim like eyes is pro child rape?"

People who don't feel that Paterno had an obligation to make sure his program wasn't being used to lure child rape victims after finding out it had occured in the past are pro child rape. People like you.

"Making even a slight excuse for him shows a staggering lack of understanding, IMO. And the bullshit about him not knowing a man (boy) could be raped? Was Paterno retarded or something?"

Shut your gash, you whiney bitch. The AD ran Penn State football practices. You have a victim mentality. Paterno had no power at all over Penn State football, its facilities or its players. I'm also not defending Paterno even though I've spend 60 posts attacking his critics.

Sincerely,

Lispee Old Coot

"I'm also not defending Paterno even though I've spend 60 posts attacking his critics."

Critics like you who have Joe holding the kid down. Or clowns thinking Paterno should have gone rogue and called the cops.

Calling the cops is "going rogue?"

"Calling the cops is "going rogue?"

Given what he was told according to his own words and that of McCreary saying he didn't give Paterno all the facts. Plus his superiors were informed and in their hands as to what the university whould do. Yeah, putting the University into the media spotlight when he didn't know wtf happened is going rogue to me.

"Calling the cops is "going rogue?""

Calling the cops. Banning Sandusky from Penn State football facilities. Telling players not to participate in 2nd Mile events that would be used to lure more kids. Showing any concern at all for the status and overall well being of the kid who was raped in his locker room.

These are all "going rogue" to Lispee Old Coot. The most powerful man on campus was tied by rules of being a non-rogue. Why can't you whiney slits see that? LOL

Why can't you whiney slits see that? LOL
#137 | Posted by Sully at 2012-01-23 05:10 PM

Because they don't have the same perspective of a victim like yourself Sally. Hope this thread has been like therapy, and in some ways helps you get over it...

Crispee. Damn. Have you lost your mind?

The head coach hires his coordinators and assistant coaches. Those coordinators and assistant coaches get offices in the building. If you have an office in the building, it's natural for 10-year-old boys to assume that you're associated with the coaching program. It's natural for 44 year old men to assume the same, using myself as an example. Why did this douchebag have an office? Why did he have the key? Are you saying that the same trustees who rubber-stamped JoPa's contract every renewal year let a pedophile use an office just down the hall without Paterno's okay? In your scenario, how come he didn't say, "hey. I've heard rumors that the guys buggers little boys. Either he goes, or I do? I'm Joe Paterno. Don't think I couldn't get a job at any one of 150 Division I schools tomorrow, and I'll burn down this campus and football program on the way out the door, with what I know."

Nope. Can't have it both ways. Here's what I think: Paterno wanted him to go away, but not too far. Didn't want him showing up at Ohio State or something, get caught in the showers there with some little kid, then defending himself by saying that Coach Paterno knew all along. That's why he had the run of the place for years after being let go.

Never mind any of that. Don't "pass it up the chain of command." Don't even call the police. If you think calling the police is "going rogue", you wouldn't much care for my idea: sit the guy down, and tell him that if he lies, even one time, you're going to take this pistol and blow his brains out, on the spot. And there isn't a cop or DA in all of Pennsylvania who will put me in jail for THAT; I'M JOE F****IN PATERNO! YOU'RE GOING TO BRING LITTLE KIDS INTO MY LOCKER ROOM? YOU'RE AS GOOD AS DEAD!"

But he didn't do that. Gave him keys and everything, real gentlemanly about it all. Do whatever you want, Jerry. Just please don't get caught while I'm still alive. Thanks, Jer. You understand.

Crispee,

I'm not gonna read the entire thread. The last 15 or so are enough.

I'm going with the rest of the group here. I agree he did notify others (and I'm hoping there is some real accountability for that) but the bottom line is that he should have placed Penn State over and above his relationship with Sandusky. Period.

Again, I recognize that it doesn't stop with him as far as the University goes....but Joe simply shouldn't have allowed that man on campus....ever....again after he was made aware. Period.

Holy Shit PeePee, did you lose your fucking mind??

All jokes aside.

To observe a crime being committed and to not do EVERYTHING in your power to stop it is evil.

He basically gave Sandusky his approval by not only not doing anything about it but also allowing him to continue. 2002 he witnessed it? And it wasn't until 2011 the news broke? Paterno gave Sandusky the thumbs up to go ahead.