I hate to ruin a good Lib hissy fit but those pesky facts are getting in the way again.

The architects of the Affordable Care Act expected this and they wrote into the law that states that refuse would then have the Federal Government set up the exchanges for the state and the cost will be debited from the funds that the state receives anyway. Scott Walker is doing the right thing again because if the individual mandate is declared unconstitutional or anything else occurs like Republicans taking over the congress and white house then Wisconsin would save its tax payers the expense of the required matching funds and exchange set up expenses.

Now go ahead and call me a ass hole and continue on with your lib hissy fit. Have a nice day

"Scott Walker is doing the right thing again because if the individual mandate is declared unconstitutional or anything else occurs like Republicans taking over the congress and white house then Wisconsin would save its tax payers the expense of the required matching funds and exchange set up expenses."

How do you figure? An insurance exchange would be a good thing with or without the rest of Obamacare. Beware too, there are already thousands of Wisconsinites who are receiving treatment for cancer and other illnesses under insurance coverage provided by insurance companies but only because of the requirements of Obamacare, they would lose their coverage and become the taxpayers' problem.

#2 | Posted by danni

This concept works whether you on either side of the political divide. If a federal mandate is given a state and the state has expenses associated with it the state can contest the law in court. WI did that and two courts said the individual mandate was illegal and it is one of the cases before the SCOUS. That is what gives Walker the legal president for this. Had the lower courts rules against him it most likely would not be legal to do this. By refusing to comply he avoids the costs to the state if the law is repealed or struck down or defunded. It is the right thing for a governor to do to protect his constituents. I believe some states looked at this or did it under no child left behind (unfunded mandate).

It is the right thing for a governor to do to protect his constituents.

#3 | Posted by paneocon

Damn, more than ever I'm sure this crazy sumbitch going bye-bye in a few months.

From what I see, Walker is offering a bit of red meat to his base. Nothing more, nothing less. The HEALTH CARE aspects of this don't matter to him.

Bastard. It's what he knows.

We take a break from our previously scheduled Lib hissy fit for some facts. This concept of resisting unfunded mandates has been used by both Dems and Republican governors.

Home Rule: How States Are Fighting Unfunded Federal Mandates

When all government, domestic and foreign, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated." -- Thomas Jefferson.

Unfunded federal mandates and highly prescriptive federal programs have backed many states and localities into a fiscal corner, forcing them to sacrifice their own programs and priorities in order to comply with standards set by a distant federal government. Aurora, Colorado, for example, calculates that it will have to repair some 28,000 curbs in order to comply with the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) at an average cost of $1,500 per curb.2 Like many municipalities, Aurora simply cannot afford the federal mandate, and the January 1995 deadline for compliance with ADA is looming. Columbus, Ohio's famous 1991 study found that unfunded federal environmental mandates alone will cost their city $856 per household per year by the year 2000

But states and localities seem to have reached their limit and are fighting back in a number of ways:

* They are publicizing the costs of unfunded federal mandates and holding their Congressmen publicly accountable for mandate votes.

* They are challenging Congress's authority to impose mandates, resisting micromanagement by the federal bureaucracy, and in some instances simply refusing to comply.

* They are suing the federal government for violation of the Tenth Amendment8 and arguing to constrict the expansive interpretation of the Commerce Clause.9

* They are lobbying Congress to pass mandate-relief legislation and to submit for ratification by the states a "no money, no mandate" constitutional amendment.

* They are considering collective action to challenge the federal government's most grievous intrusions on states' autonomy and to amend the Constitution to reaffirm the principles of federalism.

Damn, more than ever I'm sure this crazy sumbitch going bye-bye in a few months.

#4 | Posted by Zed

My betting window is open whenever you're ready to place one.

My betting window is open whenever you're ready to place one.

#7 | Posted by wisgod

I'll bet you $10,000. That's really not a lot of money.

How about betting $375,000? Still not much money.

It sounds like Walker is trying to have his cake and eat it. If Paneocon portrays the Affordable Care act accurately at all, then Wisconsin is getting the exchanges one way or the other; it's just that this way his state isn't on the hook for the some of the expenses. For the time being at least.

How about betting $375,000? Still not much money.

#9 | Posted by Zed

That Walker loses to someone like Kathleen Falk? You sure or just talking big on the internet? For that kind of money, there wouldn't be a place for you to hide, my friend.

For that kind of money, there wouldn't be a place for you to hide, my friend.

#11 | Posted by wisgod at 2012-01-20 09:30 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Ah, so $375,000 IS a lo0t of money then. That's what I thought.

Ah, so $375,000 IS a lo0t of money then. That's what I thought.

#12 | Posted by Zed

Yes it is, and like you ever had that much.

Now opposing Obamacare is called 'letting them die?' The left's penchant for hyperbole is nauseating.

The left's penchant for hyperbole is nauseating.
#14 | Posted by Diablo

You know of a group who is less prone to hyperbole? Where TF have they been hiding, Diablo? Name names. Who are these noble people?

I've told you a million times, I am, Hagbard.

I've told you a million times, I am, Hagbard.
#16 | Posted by Diablo

You really... I think... But you...

Bah.... I got nothin'.
*shrugs

Scott Walker is the embodiment of what we get if the fascist right wing ever gains total control. I think that Wisconsin voters are not yet so brainwashed that they will endorse this vicious assault on human rights, but who knows? The 1% own enough slick PR machines to get people tovote against themselves every time. herm

Responding to Walker’s announcement, The American Cancer Society told The Associated Press that Wisconsinites who need health care most would be the first to suffer from Walker’s decision.

Maybe the ACS should get their priorities straight and gtf out of the politcal game, and find out why there is such a huge shortage of Chemo drugs...

#3 - good post

#6 - stupid post.

Can you spot the difference? I hope you can PaNazi.

Scott Walker is the embodiment of what we get if the fascist right wing ever gains total control.#18 | Posted by herm

You are either reading impaired, learning impaired or just a partisan hack. What Scott Walker is doing is saving money for his constituents. Your Barry care is not effected but if it is repealed then the people in Wisconsin will save millions.

#20 | Posted by BruceBanner

#20 stupid post but what's new.

What Scott Walker is doing is saving money for his constituents

#21 | Posted by paneocon

Nah. Walker's just waving the bloody shirt for his base.

and find out why there is such a huge shortage of Chemo drugs...

#19 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2012-01-20 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Hmmm. You reallly think there's something behind it otehr than some rich asshole attempting to make a killer profit? Pun intended.

#22 Cant. Nothing new.

Gee I bet he's getting tax payer funded health care!
Kind of two face, hey gov....I got mine piss on you...republicans who needs them...

i am union member and i got a letter from my insurance comp. saying under the affordable care act my premiums will go up or my coverage will go down i make about 60000 ayear not the filthy rich so who is this affordable for , the answer is those who do not work this president has to go or we will live like the cubans have since the 50s

oh yeah my union told me to vote for this marksist and then they send me this letter what can you liberals say about this i mean honestly and my dues are supporting them ,all i can say is wait till you find out what real poverty is

As a fellow union brother I advise you to listen to your union leadership. They know what is best for us.

Without the union I would probably be scraping by and not comfortable like I am today.

According to well co-ordinated Reethuglican talking points, we already had a perfect health care system, 37th in the world, 16% of GDP, already replete with death panels and poorer average outcomes than 19 other western nations.

Shame on Obama for trying to improve anything, protecting those under 18 from Insurance's escape clause, the prexisting condition, unique to the USA. Shame on him for attempting to cap paper shuffling Insurance Companies at 15% profit. They deserve 30% for denying you health care.

What a fucking joke Rethug talking poits are. You gotta be brain dead to believe any of it.

I been on Govt health care most of my life and it works well! I served 22 years in the army. Retired from that at age 40. Then worked 24 years for a large company. So now I have two pensions and a IRA and social security. Now at 74 I been retired 9 years, Govt health care has been great.. anyone bitching about it,has no clue what they are talking about.

An 2012 Obama 4 more years...he done more for this country then anyone I've ever seen..

#32. And let me guess? When you retired the government healthcare worker placed a permanent kool-aid I.V. in your arm so you could spew forth the Odummer rhetoric. Should have had a colostomy bag or two installed as well to collect all your crap. Who cares? At 74 there's a good chance you won't see Romney's inauguration anyway, nor how badly Odummer will go down in history as one of the worst POTUS of all time. Bye Bye now. Americas 2008 brain fart lives on. NOBAMA 2012.

Brain dead nut, like the Dems in Illinois who haved caused it to be downgraded by Moody's to below California's rating?

Or smart like Wiscn..... In contrast to the Illinois downgrade, Moodys has praised Mr. Walkers budget as credit positive for Wisconsin, adding that the money-saving reforms bring the states finances closer to a structural budgetary balance. As a result, Wisconsin jumped in Chief Executive magazines 2011 ranking of each states business climat"moving to 17th from 41st. Illinois dropped to 48th from 45th as ranked by the nations top CEOs.

Yet Mr. Walker, who balanced the budget without new taxes, is the governor facing a union-financed attempt to recall him from office this year. If Wisconsin voters want to see where a state ends up without the kind of reforms that Mr. Walker made, they need only look to the Greece next door.

From what I see, Walker is offering a bit of red meat to his base.

Oh, you mean what they elected him to do?

Walker's Department of Administration Secretary Huebsch, indicated on January 11, that the state is running a deficit for 2012 and 2013.

Way to go Scott, it's working.

#33tkrammer82

There is a a mess in aisle 3, bring your mop!

An no pensions for you....

"An 2012 Obama 4 more years...he done more for this country then anyone I've ever seen.."

At 74? This president? I know you libs have your heads in the sand, but wtf was yours buried until 2008?

Any chance you are on the Nobel Committee as well?

#36, yet Moody's issued a very positive comment on Walker's handling of finances. Best you ignore that, facts might f=get in the way of your blind vision!

Only the idiot savants of the left parrot the talking points from Huff Post!

Without the union I would probably be scraping by and not comfortable like I am today.#30 | Posted by jackass

What more can anyone say than this gem to makes a better case against unions.

But Scott Walkers plan is working!

Mayville Products announced yesterday that they idling 130 workers, BMO Harris is laying off 200 people over this quarter. Add this to the 1,700 jobs lost in December. Scott Walker's plan to give money to "job creators" is paying huge dividends to the average Wisconsinite. Now he just gave up a chance to help improve the healthcare of the state.

#41 And you keep ignoring facts. get a life hammerhead....

Wisconsin lost 3,900 private sector jobs between November and December, however, last months figures were 13,500 jobs higher than the numbers in December 2010, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics .

The statewide unemployment rate dropped to 7.1 percent in December, drawing optimism from Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development Secretary Reggie Newson. Wisconsins unemployment rate was 0.4 points lower than in December 2010 and a 0.2 percent drop from November.

Who doesn't have access to healthcare in this country right now? NO ONE!

#37. I call bullshit on your 22 year army service old man. Just turned 50 so you're just old (and stupid) enough to be my dads age. And my pension is vested and secure thank you very little. Go kick the bucket already. Obummer blood sucking idiot. Americas 2008 brain fart lives on. NOBAMA 2012.

Dave, that drop of unemployment came from people who gave up looking for work. Bottom line, a net loss of 1,700 jobs.

No matter who runs against Obummer, the majority in this nation will unite against him come November. The cheating and BS that he and Holder are putting up as "legitimate voting" will loose to the majority in this nation. NOBAMA 2012! The king and queen need to return to Chicago and take up a couple of rooms at Ayers house till they can find a neat apartment above a pie shop.

Wow, the righties are really going mental these days. One can only hope these folks don't really believe everything they say.

#47 | Posted by WhoDaMan
What to try a debate of facts, or is your bong running low on water?

Well, since nothing in your previous post qualifies as a fact, I don't see what there is to debate.

Scott Walker is doing the right thing again because if the individual mandate is declared unconstitutional or anything else occurs like Republicans taking over the congress and white house then Wisconsin would save its tax payers the expense of the required matching funds and exchange set up expenses.
#1 | POSTED BY PANEOCON

The feds should say ok.. you get ZERO dollars for any program.

#45 Can you read dude. They ADDED jobs year over year!!

No matter who runs against Obummer, the majority in this nation will unite against him come November.

#46 | Posted by patriotwoman23

That's all you've got; that's all you've ever had. How this silliness squares with GOP leaders this week talking about what a tough election 2012 will be due to Obama's popularity as a person I'll never understand.

For that matter, how it squares with GOP talk that Obama's Billion willbe hard to run against eludes me. So, are you kids trying to say that Obama is going to be one mother f----- difficult push-over or I'm I just trying to make sense out of something that was never intended to be sensible?

I'm really bemused here. I Newt's the nominee I can think of a couple of states whose electoral votes would then be newly in play.

I'm really bemused here. I Newt's the nominee I can think of a couple of states whose electoral votes would then be newly in play.

I don't think Texas, with their additional four this time, will be one of them, though.

I don't think Texas, with their additional four this time, will be one of them, though.

#55 | Posted by goatman

If you nominate Willard, there are ways Obama could slip through the door in Texas.

Damn, what a great election year.

#51 I did read the article.

Here is another bit of news. Just ask yourself, it's working?

Hello, I started a petition this morning on change.org regarding the $37 Million Gov. Scott Walker rejected.

The petition is to the United States Federal Government asking to escrow the $37 Million that Gov. Scott Walker rejected until after the recall election.
Please consider signing.

Now he just gave up a chance to help improve the healthcare of the state.

#41 | Posted by SLBronkowitz

What's wrong with BadgerCare, have-not?

A number of states are rejecting this grant.

It's no big deal. It just means that Walker will allow Wisconsin to participate in the Federal exchance rather than set up their own.

Some states have determined the grant amount is not enough to set up their own exchange.

Walker doesn't have to power to keep Wisconsinites from participating in a health care exchange.

How many states will actually set up their own exchange? do any of you even know?

Badger care is better then no care, yet there is a huge waiting list.
I have private Health Insurance so it does not directly affect me.
There are many in need and everything Scott Walker does takes more away from them.