"I think that's just bad for the country."

The country, of course, consisting of only GOPpers. Of course, things like the GOP birther movement, calling Obama a communist, etc., etc. are just what a nation needs to be great.

PS Too late-Newt and Santorum have already given the Dems a lot of ammunition and quotes. Thenm and the evangelicals.

They fear a long primary because that will continue to give Ron Paul exposure...who will then cave in the GOP when he runs Independent and splits votes.

Oh Goody, who brought the popcorn?

Anything to deflect from Obama's economy.

Continue on skid marks.

"Anything to deflect from Obama's economy."

Why is the GOP campaign doing that anyway? Hacking each other to bits seems counterproductive.

Anything to deflect from Obama's economy.

That'd be the one that is improving, in spite of everything the GOP has tried?

Hacking each other to bits seems counterproductive.

I think it's a combination of a bunch of over-inflated egos coupled to what seemed to be a weak sitting President.

It's the economy that people know is getting worse despite liberal media's best effort to convince them otherwise.

Anything to deflect from Obama's economy.

Continue on skid marks.

I thought this was a done deal? What's the problem?

Who would want this fucker? Only a fucking psychopath, that's who.
Think about it, do I lie?

Let Obama keep it, you idiots. After the coming crash and the smoke clears, then it's time to step up.

And the Democrats will be recorded by history as the ones holding the reins of Great Depression II.

It's short term thinking that got us into this mess in the first place. Take the long view, you fucking GOP retards.

But they won't, because just like the power intoxicated DEMS, the all of the GOP candidates are fucking psychopaths.

Come on Republicans,find someone else to run.. What are you clown waiting for? The religious freak show isn't cutting it..

Wait until 1 Sept 2012 to hold the primary,keep em guessing.

#9 | Posted by BloodSacrafice

Wow... the "Losing would be the best thing to happen for us" schtick is starting early.

The parrots are just waiting to be told what to say.

They will all line up like good little Rmoneyites in good time.

(Right after the Florida Primary).

Power to the Pants!!! (2012 campaign slogan for Rmoney/Bacmannnnnnn)

"(2012 campaign slogan for Rmoney/Bacmannnnnnn)"

Don't know about Bachmann, but Willard's probably going to do like McCain and placate social conservatives by picking a total retard, maybe Santorum.

the all of the GOP candidates are fucking psychopaths.

#9 | Posted by BloodSacrafice at 2012-01-16 10:11 PM | Reply | Flag: Can include their supporters too.

Franly, I would rather the attacks come out now.

Nothing like Dukakis who sailed through the primary only to get to the end and all that business about letting out convicts came out and he was done.

This primary will last as long as it takes.

There will be such negative ads--from both sides leading up to the November vote--everyone will be exhausted.

"Anything to deflect from Obama's economy."

let's compare the average Obama month with the condition the Republicans left us in the last time they had control:

Odd to see you make such a comparison, danforth. You are such a stickler for comparing like numbers when others pull the same stunt you just pulled.

Compare Bush's first 36 months with Obama's first 36 months -- not an average of Obama's 36 month tenure with one known bad month from Bush.

I've pointed out before how you have a habit of twisting and skewing numbers for your own agenda. This is a great example

It was the housing bubble that collapsed the economy in 2008--not lower taxes and less regulation on businesses.

Was there less regulation in the housing loans--yeah! Or they just ignored good lending practices to give everyone a home whether they could afford the payment or not.

Then they allowed AIG to rate CDO's without insuring them and sold the manure out to the world as an investment!

And it's still not fixed!

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And since you want to compare--by this time in Reagan's term we had 1.2 million new jobs--IN ONE MONTH!!

Now that's a recovery!

What we got now is incompetence.

If there was one clear message from the Republican establishment this weekend, it was this: If Mitt Romney wins in South Carolina, he will be the nominee

Smurpy writes: "by this time in Reagan's term we had 1.2 million new jobs"

Care to guess what the billionaire tax rate was back then, Smurps? The 'job creators' were doing just fine paying way more than today's rates.

What's that???? I can't hear you thru that hunk of magic underwear that magically seems to have appeared in your mouth.....

I can't hear you thru that hunk of magic underwear that magically seems to have appeared in your mouth.....

Underwear is better than the shit that constantly comes out of yours, axecrement. Wouldn't you agree?

"Compare Bush's first 36 months with Obama's first 36 months"

Okay. Obama's ahead.

"Odd to see you make such a comparison"

Why? Isn't it fair to say Dubya's policies led to the economy he handed off, and Obama's, to date, where the economy has gone since?

Okay. Obama's ahead.

In bad leadership, I whole heartedly agree.

Why?

You know why, danforth.

If someone proposed such an apples to oranges scenario that put Bush in the lead, you would be all over it like a chicken on a June bug and you know it. I'll not argue the point because you know as well as I do I am right about that.

However, if you want to deny that and further paint yourself as a disingenuous person who loves A to O comparisions when they suit him, but denounce them when they do not -- go ahead. I'll not argue a point we both (and probably most reading this) know is true.

"In bad leadership, I whole heartedly agree."

I'm sorry; weren't we talking economy? Are you wanting to change the subject?

Isn't it fair to say Dubya's policies led to the economy he handed off,

No.

Where we are today is the result of many years, many policies, many laws, many legal decisions, etc. It is not the result of one person.

You are one of those los estupidos who actually believe one person caused this global mess all by himself!

LOL

I need say nothing more as you've clearly proven yourself quite ignorant on the subject if you think one person could do this.

I'm sorry; weren't we talking economy?

Yes. Isn't Obama supposedly leading our economy?

"If someone proposed such an apples to oranges scenario that put Bush in the lead"

I did 36 months to 36 months, which was your suggestion. I'm not sure why you now consider that apples to oranges.

Also, what I didn't mention was Bush ended his presidency drastically below where he was at that 36 month mark, and finished as the first President in our lifetimes to leave office with the Dow lower than the day he began, losing about 22%.

"Yes. Isn't Obama supposedly leading our economy?"

Yes. Isn't plus 100,000 better than minus 750,000?

Yes. Isn't plus 100,000 better than minus 750,000?

So you want to focus on one number and not the big picture?

Of course you do. You love Obama. You don't want to mention the greater job loss numbers which when factored in indicate a larger unemployment rate than when he took office (which to remind you he said wouldn't exceed 8%.

I'll not get into your mind numbing number manitpulations and focusing on what you see is good and ignoring what is known to be bad. Maybe someone else will play that game with you tonight, danny.

Bottome line remains that we have more unemployed today than we did three years ago no matter what magic "job creation" numbers you want to regurgitate. Job creaation is meaningless when job losses and unemployment figures and raw numbers of unemployed far outnumber them aand you know it. If you had been honest enough to mention these numbers with your 100k v 750k, I would be willing to continue this discussion. But that you conveniently omit them demonstrates to me you wish to go forth on another danforth cherry picked nujmbers game, and as I said, I don't feel like playing it tonight.

Good luck finding a player who'll indulge your disingenuity and cherry picking.

Okay...we have a post like this...

"Where we are today is the result of many years, many policies, many laws, many legal decisions, etc. It is not the result of one person."

one minute before this next post...

"Isn't Obama supposedly leading our economy?"

There you have it, folks: don't blame Bush, because it's never one man's fault, but blame Obama, because it's one man's fault. How can anyone argue with that logic?

I certainly can't. G'night, all

"Isn't Obama supposedly leading our economy?"

???

As expected you continue the game of turning my words into what you wish I had said instead of what I actually said.

I never said that Obama was responsible for what it is today as you said Bush was. i said he was leading it.

I also do not wish to spend my evening correcting you when you choose to deliberately twist my words into yours, danforth. That is part of your debate strategy -- to put a false spin on what someone else says so that he spends all his time correcting you.

I don't feel like putting up with that shit, either, danforth.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why you keep trying to do these things to my words? Haven't you figured out by now I don't tolerate that kind of nonesense? If not, get a clue, dude. I'm always calling your bluff on this shit.

"Isn't Obama supposedly leading our economy?"

???

As expected you continue the game of turning my words into what you wish I had said instead of what I actually said.

I never said that Obama was responsible for what it is today as you said Bush was. i said he was leading it.

I also do not wish to spend my evening correcting you when you choose to deliberately twist my words into yours, danforth. That is part of your debate strategy -- to put a false spin on what someone else says so that he spends all his time correcting you.

I don't feel like putting up with that shit, either, danforth.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why you keep trying to do these things to my words? Haven't you figured out by now I don't tolerate that kind of nonesense? If not, get a clue, dude. I'm always calling your bluff on this shit.

...but blame Obama, because it's one man's fault.

I hope when danforth "wakes up" (yes, I know too that he's lurking) he shows me where I blame exclusively Obama. Hell, even one of his patented word twisting exercises would be good for a laugh on this one!

"GOP fears further voter participation" "GOP fears democracy"

Ron Paul won Iowa:
If the GOP establishment would stop making "Gentlemen's" agreements and giving votes to whomever they wanted, AND

Ron Paul Won New Hampshire:
If they stopped using computerised polling machines that have NO audit trail.

The primaries would be over already, stop denying the obvious, Ron Paul has been exit polling at 50% of the votes! WHERE ARE ALL THOSE VOTES GOING?

Joseph Stalin said, "I don't care who votes, only who COUNTS the votes."

Surrounded by dumbasses. Hello, is this mike on?

And the Democrats will be recorded by history as the ones holding the reins of Great Depression II.

Keep wishing, your boy, the poster child for special ed, W owns that.

"And the Democrats will be recorded by history as the ones holding the reins of Great Depression II".

I don't know who said that. I'd rather not know. But neither Republicans or Democrats need you or want you. Go away.

All of us have taken turns at being cynical. But the fact is you can become so cynical, and so paranoid, that you take yourself straight out of the American community and create some alien, unuseful, niche for yourself.

Keep wishing, your boy, the poster child for special ed, W owns that.

#39 | Posted by 726

Yeah, thank Christ Obama didn't come up with a half-assed campaign slogan like "Hope & Change".

I don't even hear the GOP talking about how great Romney is. I've never heard an inevitable candidate backed by a party with so little or no support whatsoever.

Rick perry on the jay leno show...
Its time to end social security and faze out medicare.

After all poor people don't need to eat.
people don't need health care insurance.
Women don't have the right to choose.
Gays don't have a right to marry.

The GOP = god's ordained politicians.......

"(yes, I know too that he's lurking) "

Isn't that cute? Goatman "knows" something not true.

Time to recalibrate the machine, technician.

Why is the GOP campaign doing that anyway? Hacking each other to bits seems counterproductive.

Because even they know what a bunch of losers they are. Its a long primary because they got nothing. Sarah Palin was the best they had to offer and she was more of an empty suit than the contenders. At least she was republiclown eye candy.

yada yada yada

dems and leftists didnt give a shit how long 'barry and the bitch' went at it in 08....

so gop who are crying about this

BE A MAN...(being scott surprises me a little)

keep trying obamadupes...

"GOP fears further voter participation" "GOP fears democracy"

#37 | POSTED BY TWOCENTS AT 2012-01-17 02:42 AM | REPLY | FLAG

TWOCENTS thinks the US is a democracy. Obviously a production of public school education that stopped at 6th grade.

But typical of democrats who think democracy (aka mob rule) is how America rolls.

"I'll not argue the point because you know as well as I do I am right about that.
#26 | Posted by goatman"

So there, Danforth! Neener neener neener!

"Good luck finding a player who'll indulge your disingenuity and cherry picking.
#32 | Posted by goatman"

Says the King of Nit Cherry Picking himself.

"he shows me where I blame exclusively Obama."

Too rich: in less than 120 seconds, he goes from claiming one man (Dubya) can't be blamed, to specifically naming Obama, and rather than address that glaring hypocrisy, he immediately puts words in my mouth, right after bitching that I put words in his mouth (seemingly, by posting his own words).

Too rich: in less than 120 seconds, he goes from claiming one man (Dubya) can't be blamed, to specifically naming Obama, and rather than address that glaring hypocrisy, he immediately puts words in my mouth, right after bitching that I put words in his mouth (seemingly, by posting his own words).

So you can't do it.

Noted.

Clue, dannyboy, though it rhymes, "naming" is not the same as "blaming". Hope this lexicological tidbit helps you from making a fool of yourself again in the future.

You're welcome.

Romney is a prime example of how politics has transfered wealth from the productive class to the paper shuffling class. This transfer of wealth is unsustainable.

Compare Bush's first 36 months with Obama's first 36 months -- not an average of Obama's 36 month tenure with one known bad month from Bush.
I've pointed out before how you have a habit of twisting and skewing numbers for your own agenda. This is a great example

#18 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

You have pointed out shit as always. Bush inherited 8 years of unparalleled economic growth from Clinton. Obama inherited 8 years of unparalleled disaster from Bush.

Bush inherited 8 years of unparalleled economic growth from Clinton.

Actually, the economy had been on a several month long decline when Bush took office

Newt wanting more Wars....gee where did the GOP get the money for more Wars???? Oh they will take it from social security and medicare...Now we know there plan... Social security has out lived its time..

Poor people don't need to eat everyday...
Health care insurance ...who needs it!!!
Women have no right to choose..
Gays have no right to marry....

GOP...god's ordained politicians has spoken... "obey" "obey" "obey"

Sic transit gloria Paul:

"Rep. Ron Paul says he’s in it to win it and the campaign boasts that it has a comprehensive strategy in place to ensure that happens.

But behind the scenes Campaign Manager Jesse Benton admits to ABC News that the team is plotting a back up strategy in case the congressman doesn’t pull in enough delegates to become the nominee.

If the campaign comes up short at the convention, Benton says the plan is to use all the delegates awarded to Paul as a bargaining chip to force the Republican Party to stick to its limited government platform.

Benton says this could include auditing the Federal Reserve and winding back several parts of the Patriot Act, including roving wire taps which he says were originally written with the intent of expiring."

Message to Ronnie-they'll say anything you want, but they sure as hell won't respect you in the morning.

"As expected you continue the game of turning my words into what you wish I had said instead of what I actually said."

gee Goatsy, you accuse everyone of that. Maybe you should speak the truth, instead of spinning lies out of lies. You'd look way less stupid that way.

gee Goatsy, you accuse everyone of that.

Nope. Only the people who do it.

It drives idiots like you crazy that I carefully choose my words and I won't allow you to twist them into what you want.

Deal with it, northgay.

Don't worry Ron Paul will pull a Nader/Perot on your asses! HAHA!

Romney is a prime example of how politics has transfered wealth from the productive class to the paper shuffling class. This transfer of wealth is unsustainable.

#53 | Posted by nutcase at 2012-01-17 04:15 PM | Reply | Flag

Yep. We don't need someone who has successfully run private enterprises and create wealth for thousands of others. They are paper pushers. We need someone like Obama who has never held a job in the private sector. Never created a single job in the private sector. Yet has seen his net worth increase from $400K to $10.5 million in the 7 years he has been in DC. That is the kind of person we need running the show!

You fucking fool.

We don't need someone who has successfully run private enterprises and create wealth for thousands of others...

#61 | Posted by YouHateMe

Who's that? You can't be talking about Wall Street Willard the Job Cremator and flip-flopping inventor of ObamaCare?

numbers do not lie! The economy is doing fine! - I have doubled my net worth in the last three years with my 401k and stock investments....only majic I do is reinest the dividends....only wish I have is that the great crash never happened but it did - recovery is a bitch if you panicked and sold off all your shit during the bottom....look at the graphs - get your head out of the sand - why change the driver to a potential dud who will promptly crash the bus and blame the previous guy??. Vote for mutant!

EVERYBODY WILL BE RUNNING ON OBAMA'S RECORD.....BUT HIM.

......NOPE IN NOVEMBER.....

We don't need someone who has successfully run private enterprises and create wealth for thousands of others...
#61 | Posted by YouHateMe

You do realize that none of that is in the description of the job of POTUS (see U.S. Constitution). A nation is not in any way the same thing as a corporation. First of all the goal of a corporation is to increase returns to its investors (shareholders), period. The rest is calculations regarding how to do that without [getting caught] violating the law. If it can increase its profits by dumping costs on the non-shareholding public, all the better.

A nation, on the other hand, is supposed to operate on behalf of all its people, not one category or another. There are no "common" vs."preferred" shares. It's "one man, one vote". So called "conservatives" seem to think it should be "one $, one vote". Sorry, that's not what the Constitution (as amended) says. You're welcome to try to amend the Constitution to make it that way, but good luck getting the kind of majorities you would need, since the majority of the country disagrees with you (and the rest don't like change).