Interesting.

The OWS angle: The evil tavern owner hoards a huge percentage of the beer while the people get only a little at a time. Obama steps in and orders free beer by law! But when the beer runs out......no more.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D error here is using Beer and not Doobie's if he expected to this story connect with libs.

Cool post, Stir. Too bad even fifth grade logic and reason like this is lost on many people. Remember, this example fails to take into account the misguided belief that people have a RIGHT to free beer.

look at you elitist conservatives pissing on everyone else.

Wait! Wait! Flawed logic alert.

When the price was reduced by $20, the Tavern owner divided it equally among the 4 poorest, who received $5 each and were now paid to drink free beer. The Tavern owner called it the Earned Beer Credit.

What a painfully stupid analogy.

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What a pile of shit.

"The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing "

Okay, immediately he's only talking about INCOME taxes, so he's already ignoring 2/3rds of the government's revenue. And he pretends the poorest and the richest get the same beer, in the same amount. Like that's reality.

More likely: the tenth guy orders a bottle of Dom Perignon ('92, for the toastiness), a slab of Kobe beef smothered in white truffles, some Black Sea caviar, a fresh Maine lobster, and a Chateau Petrus...

...and when the bill comes, he wants to split it ten ways.

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What a pile of shit.

"The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing "

Okay, immediately he's only talking about INCOME taxes, so he's already ignoring 2/3rds of the government's revenue. And he pretends the poorest and the richest get the same beer, in the same amount. Like that's reality.

More likely: the tenth guy orders a bottle of Dom Perignon ('92, for the toastiness), a slab of Kobe beef smothered in white truffles, some Black Sea caviar, a fresh Maine lobster, and a Chateau Petrus...

...and when the bill comes, he wants to split it ten ways.

#8 | Posted by Danforth

And dont forget the cover charge to get into the tavern to drink at all (equating to state and local taxes)

the bottom 4 pay $10 to get in, the next 3 guys pay $8 the next 2 guys pay $6 and the tenth guy pays $4 to get in.

cause everybody knows when the 10th guy goes at least 5 of the bottom 4 guys show up right afterward

and when the cst of the beer went down by $20 the cover charge at the door went up by $2 for the poorest 4, $1 for the the next 3 guys, stayed even for the 8th and 9th guy and went to $0 for the 10th guy.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2012-01-13 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dom Perignon is not beer you dunce.

"Dom Perignon is not beer you dunce."

Good God, you are one stupid son-of-a-bitch.

Hey, guess what, Einstein? Nobody in the original story ordered Kobe beef, either.

See if you can run after and catch that "analogy" thingy that just flew over your head.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2012-01-13 03:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And he pretends the poorest and the richest get the same beer, in the same amount. Like that's reality."

You made a statement about them drinking different beer in different amount... then went on to make an "analogy" that didn't even include a different kind of beer... but rather, Champagne.

Hilarious.

"but rather, Champagne."

And Kobe beef. And caviar. And lobster. And a killer French red.

Stay stupid, bub.

Good God, you are one stupid son-of-a-bitch.

Danforth got pissed over that.

I doubt he drinks beer.

too crude for him.

-And dont forget the cover charge to get into the tavern to drink at all

what kind of douchebag pays a cover charge?

"I doubt he drinks beer. "

Good God, you are one stupid son-of-a-bitch.

Pilsner Urquell, yesterday.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2012-01-13 03:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Pilsner Urquell, yesterday.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2012-01-13 03:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

At least he know beer, and mentioned champagne... maybe sometime soon he will figure out the difference between the two.

He calls others stupid... and yet mentions the rich drinking a different kind of beer and a different amount only to then make an "analogy" to his reference of beer by using champagne instead of beer.

" maybe sometime soon he will figure out the difference between the two. "

Whereas there's no hope ExpressStupidity will ever understand an analogy, or the fact Kobe beef, lobster, caviar, and Chateau Petrus aren't beers either.

"At least he know beer"

Whereas Express, he don't know nothin'.

This one is for Danforth

A union organizer over hears the conversation on the payment arrangement of the 10 men.

He takes the 4 guys a side who are not paying anything got their beer and tells them they are getting a bad deal. The eighth, ninth and tenth guys are getting the benefit of your numbers for which they are receiving a discount of $20.00, they are also getting the benefit of your company.

We have this thing called collective bargaining, The four of you join the New Union of Tavern Sluts (NUTS) and we will strike for a better deal. The eighth, ninth and tenth guys will have to split the $20.00 with you to keep their discount and the tavern keeper will have to increase the discount or we will go elsewhere.

The eighth, ninth and tenth guys agree to $10.00 for the four guys who don't pay anything plus a fee of $5.00 to NUTS.

The tavern owner was willing to also give the four guys who don't pay anything
$10.00 plus a fee of $5.00 to NUTS in exchange for a contract that the NUTS union would show up every weekend. The four guys who don't pay only have to pay $2.00 a head in union dues to NUTS. So each one keeps $3.00 and drinks for free, cool good deal. The NUTS Union gets $18.00, $8.00 from the 4 drinkers, $5.00 from the eighth, ninth and tenth drinkers and $5.00 from the tavern owner.

After a while the eighth, ninth and tenth felt they were being taken advantage of and decided to starting going to another tavern. The four guys now NUTS union members with a contract now find themselves paying full price for their beers and NUTS dues on top.

The tavern owner, to cover his higher overhead from paying NUTS had to increase the price of beer, the end result is that his regular patrons either left or drank less so he was making less money. The union guy may of lost the $5.00 from eighth, ninth and tenth guys but he was still getting paid by the remaining four guys and the tavern owner.

I'l never have this problem as I do not drink with losers ;)

The ironic thing is they are drinking chinese beer.

I take my hat off to Danforth he not only moved the goalposts he moved them to a different field and sport. You're officially a legend Dan

"he moved them to a different field and sport. "

You must have missed the part where I debunked the article first.

Sorry Dan but LarryMohr has a better track record than you. But I'll still respect you in the morning I'm bighearted like that

Danforth's been drinking free beer for so long it's killed all his deductive reasoning brain cells.

"Danforth's been drinking free beer for so long it's killed all his deductive reasoning brain cells."

You missed the entire point, didn't you? Nobody drinks free beer; all ten are paying something. The article is for clueless saps who'll fall for anything, provided the story is cute or involves beer.

TANSTAAFB - There aint no such thing as a free beer.

You gots to pay for the gas tax to get there, the property tax on your vehicle the inspection charge and the registration charge. Even if the barkeep comps your beer you are still responsible for the sales tax on it. So even though you got "free beer" it still cost you. We won't even get into how the chilli fries you ordered cost 2x as much because the beer was free.

If someone puts a beer in front of you and doesn't ask for payment and there is no obligation then it is a FREE BEER! Only Liberal like Danforth can fuck up a free Beer.

Here's the part this idiotic little analogy left out:

The 1st 4 men were served a glass of water and told it was ok if they sat around and watched the others drink beer. The 5th drank two Natty Lights, the 6th drank two Rolling Rocks, the 7th drank a couple of Michelobes, the 8th drank three Flying Dog Pale Ales, the 9th had a pitcher of Newcastle and the 10th guy drank several Belgian Trappist Ales, a pitcher of Samuel Smith's Porter, and ordered 5 growlers of Full Sail IPA to go.

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"If someone puts a beer in front of you and doesn't ask for payment"

That's where you lose. A payment HAS been asked for, and paid.

You do realize the author is just talking about INCOME taxes, while ignoring the other 2/3rds of government revenue, right?

"and the 10th guy drank several Belgian Trappist Ales, a pitcher of Samuel Smith's Porter, and ordered 5 growlers of Full Sail IPA to go. "

And then suggested the bill be split ten ways.

# #33 | Posted by Danforth

Yes, of course and thus for the purpose of this discussion we are not interested in anything but revenue from income.

I take my hat off to Danforth he not only moved the goalposts he moved them to a different field and sport. You're officially a legend Dan

#25 | POSTED BY GIMME_A_SCOTCH AT 2012-01-13 11:30 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Seems more to me like he corrected the analogy.

"Okay, immediately he's only talking about INCOME taxes, so he's already ignoring 2/3rds of the government's revenue. And he pretends the poorest and the richest get the same beer, in the same amount. Like that's reality." 8 | Posted by Danforth

Seems more to me like he corrected the analogy.#36 | Posted by soheifox

On what planet does Danforth's statement make any sense.

"On what planet does Danforth's statement make any sense."

Earth.

Try visiting some time.

"Yes, of course and thus for the purpose of this discussion we are not interested in anything but revenue from income."

Oh, gee, then you admit the premise is bullshit from the start.

How about this: let's redo it, just with payroll taxes, and watch how the roles reverse.

#39 | Posted by Danforth

Are you sure you don't have a vagina? The only time I have experienced an argument that obtuse it's with a woman.

"The only time I have experienced an argument that obtuse it's with a woman."

What a coincidence: the only time I've experienced such an idiot is when dealing with the retarded.