Sorry folks, Coors Light is in no way shape or form "beer".

Tap water narrowly beat it out to be #1.

Take tasteless Coors, blend 50% distilled water, charge more.

Coors Light Now No. 2 Beer

Like everything else in America, it's success is not due to product quality but to marketing.

It is very strange that people drink the Muskox urine that is Coors, Miller and Bud.

Like everything else in America, it's success is not due to product quality but to marketing.

I'm a moron and this is my wife
She's frosting a cake with a paper knife.
All that we've got is American made
It's a little bit cheesy, but it's nicely displayed

There was an Avery Brewery Event in my area not to long ago, these were available to enjoy:

Avery IPA
White Rascal Belgian White Ale
Ellie's Brown Ale
Joe's Pilsner
Out of Bounds Stout
Hog Heaven Dry Hopped Barleywine
Reverend Quadruple
Maharaja Imperial IPA
Rumkin (Rum Barrel Aged Imperial Pumpkin)
Meph Addict
Mephistopheles
Czar Imperial Stout

The Barleywine, the Rumpkin and the Czar were fantastic.

I remember that if I were at a high school party where Coors Light was being served, I'd switch to it late in the evening in order to "sober up".

I haven't drank Bud or Coors in decades. I don't drink much, but when I do it's usually Smithwick's, Yuengling, Sam Adams or interesting local brews.

I drink lite beers like coores lite after reversing type 2 dabetes 4 years ago. They dont blast the bloodsugar like normal or heavy beers can for a diabetic.

All US mass-market pilsners are swill. The explosion of microbreweries in the US will attest to that. On the other hand, I remember grabbing half-racks of Rainier "Pounders" in college as party-starting buzz beers and switching to superior beers after you had your drunk started.

#10 | POSTED BY RCADE

Yuengling is good. Sam Adams seasonals are tasty. Shiner Bock is also a good choice. Some of Karl Strauss' beers out of San Diego are worth the try.

"On the other hand, I remember grabbing half-racks of Rainier "Pounders" in college as party-starting buzz beers and switching to superior beers after you had your drunk started."

We used to get 30 packs of Ranier cans for $6 and it had a dollar mail in rebate. Ranier is a bit Coors-lightish, BTW.

#7 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2012-01-10 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

OK, then... you can't be all bad. Good list!
There are so many damn good beers being made these days, there's just no excuse for drinking watered-down beer-like product.

I like a lot of Belgians (La Chouffe and Duvel, especially), Quebec's Unibroue brands, German bocks, English IPAs, and too many American microbrews to count. Among American standouts, I love the Dogfish Head brews, Anderson Valley, Goose Creek, Brooklyn lager, Anchor Steam, Dead Guy Ale, yada yada yada YUM!

This thread has a fairly pretentious vibe to it if I might be so bold.

I appreciate that I can drink Ranier all day while bucking wood or fishing or puling crabbing gear and not get butt faced. Its a great American working class beer.

If I want to drink a "Real Beer" I go to the Alaskan brewery and pick up whatever pilot beer they are testing out on the locals.

If im looking for a loud evening with the boys or sloppy drunk sex its Irish whiskey (sometimes with a beer backer) hands down.

Dead Guy Ale - Quite enjoyable
Anchor Steam - A good option if you want a beer like coors/miller/bud but with intentional crafting, meaning and taste.

One Microbrew that I look forward to trying is "Hebrew" Their names are unsurprisingly biblical and many flavors said to be in such proportion as well.

I have been looking forward to trying Chimay Blue, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

So many styles, so many breweries, so little time.

You can't go wrong with the Beer right from Belgium. A lot to try from there.

Might have either Sierra Nevada/Dogfish head -Life and Limb, Nebraska Brewing - Fathead, or Brooklyn Sorachia Ace if the featured beer I was looking at is not available tonight.

#10 | Posted by rcade at 2012-01-10 01:22 PM

I don't always drink beer, but when I do it's Dos Equis!

I don't always hate people, but when i do, they're coloreds.
-Dos Equis Guy

#16 | POSTED BY ALASKAN_GUY

Alaskan Amber....excellent beer to wash down a big-ass salmon fillet.

Adolph Coors gives money to every right wing cause around. He ain't gonna give mine. herm

Exp, I've had that Life and Limb. Nice, dark, strong ale. Almost a chocolatey taste to it.

I used to drink Sierra Nevada a lot, but lately I'm less enamored of the extreme hoppiness. Their Celebration Ale is good though.

Chimay Blue is excellent - spicy and flavorful. Like a lot of the Belgian ales, it will kick your ass in a hurry.

stfu, hermaphrodite. After buying Ensure, and paying for your diapers, you don't have enough money to buy beer, you shit-streak.

#22 | Posted by cbob at 2012-01-10 02:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

I can't take most of Sierra Nevada's stuff. Too much bitterness, in almost every style. Some people like that... not me.

I always check to see what the comments are on RateBeer and BeerAdvocates are regarding Sierra Nevada before I try any specific one of their brews.

I'm a moron and this is my wife
She's frosting a cake with a paper knife.
All that we've got is American made
It's a little bit cheesy, but it's nicely displayed
zappa
#6 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

FF for Goatsee.

#23

LOL.

I have become a die hard hop head:

Bell's Two Hearted IPA

Lagunitas IPA

Lagunitas Hop Stoopid

2 Brothers Cane and Eble (A hopped up Red Rye)

Goose Island IPA

Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale

Sam Adams is a 'gate way' beer that will make you explore the great hand crafted micro brews nor available. Expensive little buggers, but well worth the $$.

Life is too short for cheap beers.

#27 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2012-01-10 02:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Make a bigger list of your hop head beers so I know generally what to avoid.

Thank you.

Go to Beeradvocate.com and do your own research, Demp.

it's as if the old bastard didnt understand #28...shocking. Damn, you are one useless old sack.

It should be a capital offense to call anything with "light" in it's name "beer"

#31
I'm wondering when they are going to enact the same naming rules they did on cigarettes. Because some people just may not understand that just because it is "light" does not mean that it can't hurt you.

Why do people wrap a napkin around their Coors light?

#29 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2012-01-10 02:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

I did. It told me you have bad taste.

"One Microbrew that I look forward to trying is "Hebrew"

It's the chosen beer.

Stone Brewing fan here, used to live by their brewery in San Marcos. Lost Coast is good as well. Dogfish Head is nice as well. I like a lot the Porter/Stout type beers, which as was mentioned you don't really want to drink when you're out in the sun doing yardwork or what-not. But I refuse to drink Coors Light. Pilsner Urquel is a good alternative.

#36 -
Honest to God, LetUs... Coors Light is one of maybe half a dozen beers on earth that I'd rather just go without than drink.

"This thread has a fairly pretentious vibe to it if I might be so bold."

Have no idea what you're talkig about.

"I appreciate that I can drink Ranier all day while bucking wood or fishing or puling crabbing gear and not get butt faced. Its a great American working class beer."

Manual labor? How.... quaint.

;-)

#36 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2012-01-10 03:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hefeweizen for the summer and the heat, or Weissbier more generally.

A newer category I am looking to try is the Wheat Wine... not Barleywine... but Wheat Wine.

Coors Light has displaced Budweiser as the No. 2 beer in America

Congratulations! It couldn't have happened to a better beer.

And although I'd like to think I've had a lot to do with the new ranking, I find it hard to believe it has surpassed sales of Budweiser given then exploding population of goddamn meskins in recent years.

#38 | Posted by Sully at 2012-01-10 04:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Touche` : )

Hey I like Coors, for a macro beer they have great quality control, and I just like the nice light taste.

Micro beers are just too heavy for the everyday drink or while doing anything other than being a couch bunny.

Bud was my beer but when they got sold to the Dutch (inBev)all the American apple pie marketing messaging from A/B went the window.

Sure MillerCoors is 1/2 Canadian, but I like those guys.

I have been looking forward to trying Chimay Blue, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

I love Chimay ale. You know it's a dark beer when there's a layer of sediment at the bottom of the bottle.

I love Chimay ale. You know it's a dark beer when there's a layer of sediment at the bottom of the bottle.
#44 | Posted by rcade

Then again, that might be the bottle in which the kids unsuccessfully attempted to create a pollywog farm.

Sure MillerCoors is 1/2 Canadian,

You couldn't tell it by their beer. Nothing fires up a party in MI like somebody rolling in a 24 of Labatt Blue or Molson Canadian. Definitely worth the border hassles.

In the low carb diabetic more than 1 at a time category i like miller light best.

How can any of you drink beer with rice or corn in it?

Negra Modelo es numero uno con comida. Guinness Draught by itself.

Light sissy beer!?

How can any of you drink beer with rice or corn in it?

#48 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

No shit. What's next? Orville Redenbacher popcorn ale?

Here's an analysis.

Mass produced US and Mexico: Just look at that gosh awful pale color. Would you drink that shit? US Mirco boom, that's another story.

Belgium: High alcohol content don't make a great beer. Adding fruit is for fruitcakes. That leaves Stella where the above applies.

Holland and Denmark: Heineken sucks moose cock and the Danish so called "World's Greatest Beer" just doesn't cut it.

Canada: Produce some good beers especially Sleeman's.

Spain: Mahou very underrated.

Germany: Very overrated.

England: Nothing like a warm glass of ale. Phew!!!!!

Czech Republic: Per capita consumption through the roof. Nuff said.

Crisis

Life is way too fucking short to waste on American pilsner.

"Life is way too fucking short to waste on American pilsner."

Posted by TheTom at 2012-01-10 07:39 PM | Reply

Life is way too fucking short to waste on American pilsner.
(Needed repeating.)

A few beer memories:

Guinness with fish & chips in a pub within sight of the Tower of London.
Anchor Steam on tap at the St Francis Hotel bar in San Francisco.
A Moretti in a sidewalk cafe on the Via Veneto.
Carlton and a steak in a Sydney pub.
And last but not least, XXXX bitters on the dive boat after a long day out of Cairns in the Coral Sea.
The captain said, "We drink all we can and sell the rest!"

Mass produced US and Mexico: Just look at that gosh awful pale color. Would you drink that shit?

Who gives a crap about the color. It's the taste (or lack thereof) that concerns me.

Belgium: High alcohol content don't make a great beer. Adding fruit is for fruitcakes. That leaves Stella where the above applies.

The fact it tastes good is what makes good beer. High ABV is just an added bonus.

Fruity beers, while not my preference, are pretty f'in good if they're made right. A good lambic goes down pretty smooth.

And Stella? Really?

Canada: Produce some good beers especially Sleeman's.

Molsen and Labatt in Canada are WAY better than in the states. They keep the good stuff and send us the shit.

Germany: Very overrated.

In what way? A good Dunkel is top notch and you can't forget Marzens.

England: Nothing like a warm glass of ale. Phew!!!!!

Beer is supposed to be drunk slightly chilled. If you have to have it really cold, it likely sucks.

To each his own though. God knows there more than enough for everyone to find something they like.

Both taste like shit.

Deciding between Bud and Coors is like deciding between shit and puke.

Nothing wrong with American swill beer. 12% Earthquake High Gravity Lager works fine, under 2 bucks out the door for a 24 ounce. Two reasons to drink beer..... get high or go for the taste. When you are on a budget you go for the high.

No shit. What's next? Orville Redenbacher popcorn ale?

#51 | Posted by wisgod at 2012-01-10 07:12 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

Well, if it came in Movie Butter flavor, I might try it.

I've long been a fan of New Glarus and Bells but we have a new place that just opened in St. Louis called Perennial Artisan Ales. Their Wheat Wine and Mexican Chocolate Stout may be two best beers I've ever had. That first sip literally gives me shivers.

There's a new place in Dallas, Deep Ellum Brewing, that I recommend to anyone in that area. It was opened a few months back and they hired a very good brewer I know to run their operation.

we have a new place that just opened in St. Louis called Perennial Artisan Ales

Where abouts is that?

JPW, agreed, to each his own.

From years of experience, amber color defines a beers taste.

Crisis

From years of experience, amber color defines a beers taste.

So do them blue mountains.

I stick to Milwaukee's Best.

I am a retired soldier, and I have had over 300 different brews in about 30 countries. I consider myself a qualified expert on mankind's oldest beverage, beer. I don't care much for lite beer, too much like sex in a canoe,(fu-ing close to water). But I will say the very best beer is made in the Czech Republic. But America makes a good six pack. It is filtered, uniform quality and not too heavy. Despite all the snob appeal of micro-brews, how much can one do with barley, hops, yeast and water? Interestingly when I was in Germany, the most exotic and costly beer was American Budweiser in German bars. The worst beer I ever drank was in France- and the worst wine.

Despite all the snob appeal of micro-brews, how much can one do with barley, hops, yeast and water?

#66 | Posted by docnjo at 2012-01-11 06:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

A whole hell of a lot. Don't miss out. The first "beer" like drinks started with these ingredients plus some honey or fruit tastes, spices etc.

I am not surprised that Jackass drinks Milwaukee's Best... no wonder he is such a one dimensional, watered down caricature.

I love Chimay ale. You know it's a dark beer when there's a layer of sediment at the bottom of the bottle.

#44 | Posted by rcade at 2012-01-10 05:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Have to get it. I tend to favor the dark but not stout beers. In the lighter area I like the Hefeweizen, the Barleywine, and I am looking forward to trying the Wheat wine style.

Had a glass of Old Bart (Yards English Barleywine) and Sierra Nevada Ovila Quad. Good stuff, not the best of their respective styles, but still good.

I've been homebrewing for about a year now. I'm loving it. I could clone a coors but I not going to. It's not real beer. I did clone a bud light lime that was a good drink around the pool in the summer. I took a lot of shit from other home brewers finding the recipe. I've got a stout/pilsner blend that is my favorite. Having it on tap is a nice perk.

#69 | Posted by STIRSUMUP at 2012-01-11 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

What system to you use to do the home brew? I am looking to get a system for my birthday... save some money from buying, make the style I want, have it when I want it.

***"I stick to Milwaukee's Best."***

The Beast! That was our Panama City beer. Stuff was nasty, but it was cheep, and when your 17, cheep matters more than good. I remember my dad letting me steal a swig or two from his ice cold PBR when I was a kid. After running around in the humid heat of Galveston for hours and hours with my friends, that cold PBR tasted pretty damn good.

On a different note, when I was in the Corps, we stopped in Trieste, Italy after we left Somalia. From there we hooked up with some locals that owned a bar in town. They took us across the border into Slovenia to a club/casino/brothel where we ordered a round of beers. Don't know what brand it was, but it was awefully good, and really strong. After three of them I was in good shape. I just remember they were fairly light in color (but darker than our light beers), really bright flavor but with clear alcohol undertones and almost a grapey fruity finish. It was definitely beer, but different from what I had had before and really good. But hell, for all I know they mixed a Coors Light, a shot of whisky, and a little white wine and served it up!

Coors is number 2?

Meh, still tastes like "#1".

Be Well.

/Smithwicks *does* rawk.

I use an all grain single tier system, but the best way to get started is a 5 gallon extract setup and a turkey fryer. I still bottle every few batches, but kegging is much easier. This link will be a good place to start. The extract kits are the best way to start. They are hard to screw up.

Despite all the snob appeal of micro-brews,

I love it when people say this.

Why is it snobby to point out that microbrew tastes like beer should while millerweiser MASS produced stuff tastes beerish?

how much can one do with barley, hops, yeast and water?

As a "qualified expert" I'd think you'd know the answer to this-A SHIT TON.

There's still new combinations and beers coming on the market periodically.

Sometimes I love to pound a few American macro-brews.

That said, I can't stand Coors Light. If given a choice I would even take Natural light over Coors light.

Bud, Miller Lite, Miller Genuine draft are what I gravitate towards when I want a macro-brew.

That said, I really dig Belgian trappists.

If I'm drinking a "shitty" beer, I like to go all-out. My order of preference is High Life, PBR and then Old Style. Middle-of-the-road miller, coors and bud products have way too much carbonation and basically taste like seltzer water.

Jeff, I tried a new belgian the other day - Witkap Stimulo. Keep your eyes peeled for it, it was very good.

Harpoon!

Fuck Coors. There's nothing "beer" about Coors. Worse than Bud, for god's sake.

In college, we'd drink anything. I grew up.

My order of preference is High Life

Posted by JOE at 2012-01-11 11:48 AM | Reply

Second that. Living in NC, the camo-high-life cap I got with those stupid reward points, serves as sort of "red neck street cred"

fuck all you guys. coors beer rocks. it's the banquet beer. is awesome for shotgunning and beer bongs. tastes good after all these years. bud light sucks.

but the best way to get started is a 5 gallon extract setup and a turkey fryer.
#73 | POSTED BY STIRSUMUP AT 2012-01-11 10:12 AM

Eddie says be sure to remember to take the oil out of the turkey fryer first.

If the beer doesn't taste good at 50 degrees and get better as it warms... it isn't real beer.

Wow exps, I actually completely 100% agree with you on something.

"Wow exps, I actually completely 100% agree with you on something."

Posted by jpw at 2012-01-11 03:43 PM | Reply

Beer, the universal language.

Prosit!

83--I was JUST gonna say that.

Jeebus, now Crispee and Jest will come along and say something I have to agree with! (Just fuckin' with ya, guys. I actually have agreed with each of you before. Jest might even admit it.)

And actually, I think Exp and I have agreed before too.

#86 | Posted by pragmatist at 2012-01-11 03:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

On various occasions.

Anyone ever try Samichlaus?

They use a special yeast that isn't killed off by the alcohol at the usual alcohol levels. This stuff is 14% and is only brewed once a year on Dec 6th. Undergoes a ten month cold-lagering process.

It's rough to drink. Had to try 4 bottles....holy shit!

Schloss Eggeneberg now owns the name and they brew a 23% beer.

87--Hey, at least my memory is intact! : )

#88 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2012-01-11 08:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Most of the big beers around 12-18% are quite tasty without strong alcohol taste coming through. I hear some of the bigger ones in the 35-40% range hide the alcohol taste pretty good as well (Tactical Nuclear Penguin - Sink the Bismark)

It's rough to drink. Had to try 4 bottles....holy shit!

Rough? I thought it was delicious.

Although, being rich enough to be a meal in a glass, only one was sufficient for me.

But you had to "try" 4 bottles? LOL lush.

But you had to "try" 4 bottles? LOL lush.

#92 | Posted by jpw at 2012-01-11 09:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

You always have to make sure the 1st one wasn't skunked... thus the second. You always have to make sure the 2nd wasn't infected, thus the 3rd. You always have to make sure the 3rd wasn't a fluke, thus the 4th. Depending how you feel... you can continue that cycle until you are finished.

You always have to make sure the 1st one wasn't skunked... thus the second. You always have to make sure the 2nd wasn't infected, thus the 3rd. You always have to make sure the 3rd wasn't a fluke, thus the 4th. Depending how you feel... you can continue that cycle until you are finished.

After a couple of cases, Bible in hand and thesaurus at the ready, I'm set for a 24-hour posting spree on the DR.

#93 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

I've got a 10 gallon batch of Experimental Russian Imperial Stout in the fermenter right now. Not sure how it's going to finish. It should be at about 13.5%. I've never made anything with that much dextrose. The yeast is still alive after 5 days so that's a good sign.

#93 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

#94 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2012-01-12 08:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wow dude, that is a new low. We are talking about beer here you want to come in and contaminate the thread with your asinine nonsense.

Classic (and sad).

I also find it funny that you presume you would drink all 4 in succession. Clueless you seem to be.

you want to come in and contaminate the thread with your asinine nonsense.
#96 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

When it comes to "assinine nonsense," kiddo, you set the gold-standard. Now go do something you actually appear capable of doing: guzzling brewskis. LOL.

You always have to make sure the 1st one wasn't skunked... thus the second. You always have to make sure the 2nd wasn't infected, thus the 3rd. You always have to make sure the 3rd wasn't a fluke, thus the 4th. #93 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

I also find it funny that you presume you would drink all 4 in succession. Clueless you seem to be.
#96 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

You're so in the bag you're arguing with yourself, kid.

When it comes to "assinine nonsense," kiddo, you set the gold-standard. Now go do something you actually appear capable of doing: guzzling brewskis. LOL.

#97 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2012-01-12 08:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

Funny. You don't "guzzle" good beer. It is a slow process. You nurse it throughout the meal. No wonder you make some of the statements you make feeling like you have to guzzle anything that crosses your path.

You're so in the bag you're arguing with yourself, kid.

#98 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2012-01-12 08:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

Arguing with myself? Hmm... you refer to the trying all 4 post as if I stated that you drink them all in immediate succession.

I know it may hard for you to have 1 drink a day... but it is well within the power of many other human beings.

"Arguing with myself?"

Have a discussion with yourself and yourself and get back when you're ready for prime-time.

"I know it may hard for you to have 1 drink a day... but it is well within the power of many other human beings."

Most days, I have zero drinks. But if you're so focused on that one (or more) you require, go with it, kid.

Seeking a new person for regular battle, Doc? Tired of fighting with Vern?

"Orville Redenbacher popcorn ale?
#51 | Posted by wisgod"

I remember being drink off my ass in San Diego one night, and calling Orville at about 4 in the morning. His wife answered, sounding very tired. I felt kinda bad about it afterward, but it was a good story for a while.

#103 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2012-01-12 01:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

A good story? The story of an idiot is more accurate.

Don't drink much beer anymore...if I do it's a local home brew. And my favorite kind of bud doesn't come in a bottle. And it is home grown.

Seeking a new person for regular battle, Doc?
#102 | Posted by pragmatist

Regular "battle," no? But I do derive some minor amusement from sticking pins into gasbags. This is a not an overly rich field but, still, a perfectly adequate target-rich environment.

On beers - topic at hand - those of my youth were the Mexican brews available along the Arizona-Sonora border. Never really cottoned to the big, brassy, darker stuff. Bohemia's okay, Pacifico's nice, even Carta Blanca. Current favorite is Sol, although I'd like to see what Victoria's like.

That's all, no mas.

Seeking a new person for regular battle, Doc?
#102 | Posted by pragmatist

Regular "battle," no? But I do derive some minor amusement from sticking pins into gasbags.

#106 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

I wanna believe that you come here for such noble reasons Doc but my money is on that you only only come to the Retort cause deep down you wanna woo Vernon and be his incorporated in Arizona ladyboy

The veil of modesty rent at last, OWS. Yup, Verm's my big hunk o' love.

Just a big a big a big a hunka love...but he'll do.

:>)

Sorry, not OWS, but Gimme A Scotch.

"A good story? The story of an idiot is more accurate.
#104 | Posted by ExpsRedemption"

Those are not mutually exclusive, dummy.

I liked your story. Orville deserved to be woken up simply for the fact he wore a bow-tie.

His wife was old. She sounded old, and confused about why I was calling at 4 a.m. and what I was babbling about. It must have been like trying to read one of Bushlover's posts.

By the way, his name wasn't in the phone book the next year. Don't ask why I know that.

No. 2 beer tastes like No. 1 (I hypothesize).