Really hope Huntsman pulls off second place here.

Josh Marshall over at TPM thinks it might happen.

Could Huntsman take second in New Hampshire? Believe it or not, it might be the most likely outcome tomorrow night.

Romney is going to win this. I think the republican base is starting to see all this infighting is only helping Obama. I see a consolidation of the party in the next few weeks. Everyone will get behind Romney.

"Everyone will get behind Romney."

Wishful thinking, there is a significant segment of the GOP who will NEVER get behind Romney. Romney has shown himself to be a cynical political hack with no core beliefs about anything, some Republicans think that is important.

It was dumb strategy for Gingrich, Paul, Santorum and Perry to contest New Hampshire. They should have skipped the state the way Democrats skipped Iowa when local senator Tom Harkin was running for president in 1992. Romney's governorship in neighboring Massachusetts and the political makeup of the state made it impossible for anyone else to win there.

Huntsman, because he skipped Iowa, had to try in New Hampshire.

Wishful thinking, there is a significant segment of the GOP who will NEVER get behind Romney.

The Republicans will eventually get in line behind Romney the way Democrats got behind Kerry -- with as little enthusiasm as humanly possible. Neither of these northeastern patricians are capable of generating passionate support in their party faithful.

(When Kerry gave his nomination speech and was amused by his own joke about being "born in the west wing" of his hospital, I couldn't believe what a total stiff we'd chosen.)

Barring a downturn in the economy, I think the GOP's goose is cooked.

Huntsman, because he skipped Iowa, had to try in New Hampshire.
#4 | POSTED BY RCADE

Huntsman has based his campaign in NH, even so far as to move his hq there. Somewhat of an odd place considering Romney's clout there.

Hopefully he gets an Iowa-like finish like Santorum had.

Barring a downturn in the economy, I think the GOP's goose is cooked.

#5 | POSTED BY RCADE

But then again there is this...

" This Synovate eNation poll, reported in U.S. News, illustrates what a mountain President Obama has to climb to convince voters that he deserves a second term:

In our New Year's poll, when asked what news event they fear most about 2012, Americans by a margin of two-to-one said Obama's reelection. Only 16 percent said they fear the Democrat won't win a second term, while 33 percent said they fear four more years.

Here are the full results:

As we enter the presidential election year of 2012, what potential news event do you fear the most?

President Obama wins reelection: 33%

Taxes will increase: 31%

Iran will get a nuclear weapon: 16%

Obama will lose reelection: 16%

North Korea will attack South Korea: 4%

Tax increases aren’t popular, either. All of which helps to explain how Ron Paul can be running even with Obama."

That poll seems pretty weak to me, if those are the only choices.

It was dumb strategy for Gingrich, Paul, Santorum and Perry to contest New Hampshire. They should have skipped the state... -- #4 | Posted by rcade

Huckabee had an interesting response to that suggestion when asked on "This Week" if he should have skipped NH in 2008: he pointed out that every news organization that had been hunkered down in the snow there would have been running stories about how skipping NH was a sign of weakness, evidence that they weren't national candidates, etc. etc.

"The Republicans will eventually get in line behind Romney the way Democrats got behind Kerry"

Sure. Half-heartedly and with no passion. Seriously, did anyone ever faint in the presence of Kerry?

If Romney prevails I think you will see much more Republican energy go into Congressional races.

Republicans will treat Romney the way they did Dole; meanwhile, holding the House and taking the Senate will be seen as a way to paralyze The Messiah.

And an honest reading of history shows that American government is intended to be in perpetual gridlock.

Personally, I like the idea of the 75 percent who are consistently anti-Romney. It could lead to a brokered convention with an outstanding candidate like Mitch Daniels.

Dixville Notch is in.

Apparently, they like Mormons.

While most polling places in the state didn't open until early Tuesday, the first votes were cast just after midnight in the tiny communities of Dixville Notch and Hart's Location.
In Dixville Notch, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman, the former Utah governor and ambassador to China, tied for the lead with two votes each. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas had one vote apiece.

Crazed Moonbat Michelle Malkin weighs in on the current crop of GOPher hopefuls.

Mitt Romney's chronic flip-flopping political career is teeming with reasons to oppose his nomination - from his support for racial preferences, to government funding of abortion, liberal judges, global warming enviro-nitwittery, TARP, auto bailouts, the Obama stimulus, gun control, and of course, individual health insurance mandates that presaged Obamacare.

Instead of focusing on his long political record of expedience, incompetent non-Romneys have morphed into Michael Moore propagandists - throwing not just Bain Capital under the bus, but wealth creators of all kinds who take risks in the private marketplace.

TL,DR?

Malkin thinks Mitt sucks and the rest of the non-Romney's are a pageant of feckless, cartoonish asshats but on the plus side Bain Capital, Free Markets and 1%ers rock.

In short, nobody likes this slate of candidates.

Be WEll.

Barring a downturn in the economy, I think the GOP's goose is cooked.

#5 | Posted by rcade at 2012-01-10 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Doesn't matter. Either way the U.S. Goose is cooked.

meanwhile, holding the House and taking the Senate will be seen as a way to paralyze America and keep the middle-class fearmongered into voting GOP or else.

ft

Barring a downturn in the economy, I think the GOP's goose is cooked.

#5 | Posted by rcade at 2012-01-10 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hard to have a downturn when you're bouncing along rock bottom.

"Barring a downturn in the economy, I think the GOP's goose is cooked."

When was there ever an upturn? I know many libs are willing to play the stupid card and pretend a 1% growth is the new bar to reach, that 200k jobs created is good today. But to assume the economy has been good in any sector borders on delusional...

"Romney has shown himself to be a cynical political hack with no core beliefs about anything

#3 | Posted by danni at 2012-01-10 10:14 AM

Are you sure you are not describing Obama?

"Huntsman, because he skipped Iowa, had to try in New Hampshire."

I think it's the other way around. I think he skipped Iowa because he felt his chances were better in NH. He's been in the state for months now.
+++++

I am very uncomfortable with the idea that Romney somehow has clout because he lives in a neighboring state. Those who don't live in New England might not know this, but there are divisions in the region. In Maine, for instance, the term "out-of-staters" is said with contempt. NH voters tend to be very independent-minded; living next door doesn't necessarily mean much. I think Romney's win will be more the result of a preponderance of moderate voters in NH, not because he lives nearby and has a vacation home in the state.

"Hard to have a downturn when you're bouncing along rock bottom."

See if you can get some help in the Historical Perspective Department.

17--I thought that Obama was a communist/socialist/marxist out to destroy America. Wouldn't that mean he has beliefs?

"In short, nobody likes this slate of candidates."
#12 | Posted by dethspud

Mostly true on the Dem side also but I'm glad Obama is still popular in canada.

Wishful thinking, there is a significant segment of the GOP who will NEVER get behind Romney.

Dont believe that. I think at this point, republicans would vote for Hillary to put Obama out of office...

Only in a liberals mind can 200K people finding service economy jobs while 20 million are out of work, the majority of which have stopped looking and are not counted anymore be a good thing...

I think Romney's win will be more the result of a preponderance of moderate voters in NH, not because he lives nearby and has a vacation home in the state.

Possibly, but Romney's governorship of Massachusetts was a good excuse the other candidates could use to take New Hampshire off the map.

When was there ever an upturn?

We're in the middle of one now.

gop candidates who don't stand a chance against obama are being used to keep ron paul in check. first it was gingrich, then it was santorum in iowa , and now in new hampshire it will be huntsman. i predict that you will see a four way squeeze at the top with huntsman the "surprise" (which he really isn't if you realize everyone is working (consciosly or unconsciously) under the premise "anyone but paul"

romney 24
huntsman 23
paul 22
santorum 16

paul's team is tuned it, groundd, and media savvy, so i watch their reactions an who they go after. paul has laid waste to both gingrich and santorum and now he must move on to huntman, who is going to be a bit tougher.

still, ron paul has a long standing, consistent, wide ranging, coherent and principled view of america and the world; he reinforces this view through speeches, articles, debates and television a radio programs and never is at a loss for straightforward assessments rooted in the constitution. he also has an entire political MOVEMENT behind him-- something that NO other gop candidate has. in short, paul's candidacy represents more than ron paul, and as such, intelligent americans who see an america at a danerous crossroads will understand that when they vote for paul, they are voting for something much greater than the next resident of the united states of america.

In short, nobody likes this slate of candidates.

How dumb was Tim Pawlenty for dropping out?

-We're in the middle of one now.

If this is the "middle" then it isn't very good.

It better be the beginning.

But I suspect that is what you meant...you are just trying to help out your boy.

"We're in the middle of one now."

ROTFLMAO.... That middle bar is about 1/10 of an inch off the ground.

24--Well, then, they're dumb. : )
+++++

"gop candidates who don't stand a chance against obama are being used to keep ron paul in check. first it was gingrich, then it was santorum in iowa , and now in new hampshire it will be huntsman. "

I believe Huntsman, in a general election, has a greater chance than anyone. He will appeal to independents in ways no one other than Paul will. But he won't get nominated, so never mind.

Republicans think that is important.

#3 | POSTED BY DANNI

As a Republican, Danni, faced with the candidates before us, I can unequivocally state that we don't think this election has any importance. Still hoping AE pulls a rabbit out of their hat.

31--Republicans I know are going to vote for whoever the Republican candidate is. One self-identified "independent conservative" I know is going to vote for whoever the Republican candidate is. He asked me if I would vote for Huntsman if the ambassador makes it; I said I'd take a hard look.

"I believe Huntsman, in a general election, has a greater chance than anyone. He will appeal to independents"

unfortunately he'll appeal to the same people obama appealed to four years ago, and i'm sure, back into history-- people who really don't like the status quo but don't have the guts to vote for real change...

Romney has shown himself to be a cynical political hack with no core beliefs about anything, some Republicans think that is important.

#3 | Posted by danni

Selectively edited to bring out the actual truth of the matter. Political hack is the real definition of the word 'Republican'.

An around the corner and up the block,it the magic underwearer by a hair..

An so end another round for the religious control freaks...

i'll only vote for a mormon if he institutes a federal law legalizing (and encouraging) bigamy.

Posted by nerfherder at 2012-01-10 11:09 AM | Reply

Couldn't agree more.

"Still hoping AE pulls a rabbit out of their hat."

Rumors are that the rabbit would look much like Michael Bloomberg.

"unfortunately he'll appeal to the same people obama appealed to four years ago,"

Riiight. He'll appeal to the same people who voted for McCain, Bush, Bush 1, REagan, Nixon.

Romney has shown himself to be a cynical political hack with no core beliefs about anything, some Republicans think that is important.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2012-01-10 10:14 AM |

oh sweety....every day I wonder how you came to this position...were you dropped on your head as a baby?? OH wait...someone of "YOUR AGE" would be past that by now... :) ...(snicker snicker)...

anyone but barry....

thats the goal, the battlecry, the mantra, and its too bad that we are at that point..

IF christi or rubio or even PAUL RYAN were to be in this mix...well it would be getting close to time for michelle to start packing.

Anyone in Miami that wants the real scoop on what Paul believes, here's your chance, from Mr. DiLorenzo:

anyone see colbert last nite...

he put up map of vermont and NH....something about how they have been doing the 69 since they were defined..

colbert was good..stewart remains stuck in a rut...

we could have a candidate by the end of south carolina.

but you know me..I dont make predictions..

How dumb was Tim Pawlenty for dropping out?

He was even stupider to do so after first, calling Romney out on being the godfather of Obamacare (as it's been deemed) in the press and then backpedalling when face to face in the debates.

He can't even be considered as a VP candidate now.

Not that you'd want him.

Christ, just hearing the guy's name puts Spud to sllllll

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...

*shakes head*

Sorry, who were we talking about again?

Tim Pawllllll?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...

*rubs sleep out of eyes*

A'ight, that's it.

Off fer a nap.

Be Well.

Republicans are just a bunch of religious control freaks!

yeah thats it...and when the goddamn democrats were the party of my youth, I was told that republicans are nothing but rich old white guys....so keep up the brainwashing attacks....they didn't work in 2010..and will require lots of money and lies to come close to 2008 win..

AND LETS Look at proof that dems making these charges are hypocritical sunsabitches.,

Mitt Romney is carrying a sizable polling lead

*yawn*

You guys can say what you want to, but the south has never been enamoured with Northeastern politicians and they are not about to start now.

Most independents would rather have the devil we know (obama) than the devil we don't know (romney, huntsman, paul) or the devil we don't want (gingrich, santorum, bachman, perry, etc....).

Bottom line; No challenge for obama exists in any of these people.

Why, oh why, do the teatards not get behind Huntsman? Is he too reasonable, too mainstream, certainly they can't say he is not conservative enough.

In short, nobody likes this slate of candidates.

How dumb was Tim Pawlenty for dropping out?

#27 | Posted by rcade

Agree on that comment.

Don't anyone count out Huntsman--not yet for sure.

Why, oh why, do the teatards not get behind Huntsman? Is he too reasonable, too mainstream, certainly they can't say he is not conservative enough.

#48 | Posted by Lipzoidial

They don't know him. But his hard work in NH will garner him 2nd place today and if the percentage is single digits behind Romney--whooaaa Nelly!

lol

An the winner will be the magic religious underwear man....

The GOP = god's Ordained Politician!

Oh he will be talking to the invisible man, he will tell us what the invisible man said... tune in to hear.....

The religious freak show is just getting started........

#51 | Posted by truthteller101 at 2012-01-10 12:50 PM | Flag: One trick pony

Allllll aboard.

The GOP traveling circus train keeps on chugging along.

Next side show -- New Hampshire.

Oh lets see here...

The DOW up over 4,500 points since Obama took office.

The Oil spill in the gulf is all taken care of.

Obama got Osama

Gays have freedom to serve in military.

7 companies passed requiremnet to drill in the gulf,and are doing so today.

5 new nuclear power plants to be built soon.

stemcell research have been approved

Affordable health care act,so people can buy basic insurance.

Fixed the medicare drug plan.

GM is now a public traded company again.

Wonder why Republicans never seem to have a plan?

So we're for Obama 4 more years....

stemcell research have been approved [under Obama]

Glad you brought that up.

Actually stem cell research was one of the main factors behind my decision to vote for Obama. The arrogant GWB halted all federal funding for research using embryonic stem cells leaving millions Americans with various illnesses without hope and years behind being able to find a cure. The embryonic stem cells were not obtained from abortions but Bush didn't care as long as he could lock in the uneducated religious fundamentalists' vote.

Huntsman impressed me with a few of his answers in the last debate.

I'm going to start listening more to what he has to say. Although the first time he kisses butt to the Neocon ideology of wanting to nuke Iran on Israel's behalf, he's history.

The DOW up over 4,500 points since Obama took office.

But with the down's, the majority of middle America's value in stocks was wiped out. So who benefitted?

Obama got Osama

Using Bush's intel and plan, but ok..

Gays have freedom to serve in military.

They always did. Flaming gays still will be kicked out. This only let most soldiers know who is gay...

7 companies passed requiremnet to drill in the gulf,and are doing so today.

Out of how many who applied before Obama shut the gulf down?

stemcell research have been approved

Research as always been approved. The only problem was, as is usual with liberal arguments, who is going to pay for it. Never enough money for libs...

Affordable health care act,so people can buy basic insurance.

You could already do this. 20 years ago, I bought a basic policy from Blue Cross, so what did change? Oh yea, see above comment, more other people's money going to pay for someone else's failure to plan for life..

GM is now a public traded company again.

Govt picking winners again? It should have been allowed to fail. Another company would have stepped into the vacumn...

Romney is going to win this. I think the republican base is starting to see all this infighting is only helping Obama. I see a consolidation of the party in the next few weeks. Everyone will get behind Romney.

#2 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2012-01-10 10:05 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

You are wrong! I would just assume have Obama at the helm when the ship sinks as opposed to "Romney the RINO".

We don't simply need to win an election as this will do no good. We need to change course!

Ron Paul 2012!

Why, oh why, do the teatards not get behind Huntsman? Is he too reasonable, too mainstream, certainly they can't say he is not conservative enough.
#48 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Because he worked for Obama.

Everyone will get behind Romney.
#2 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2012-01-10 10:05 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Wishful thinking.

Using Bush's intel and plan, but ok..

#57 | Posted by boaz at 2012-01-10 01:46 PM

All of which helps to explain how Ron Paul can be running even with Obama."

Really? How about outside the Ron Paul household?

Romney is the nominee. He will have too many delegates for there to ever be a brokered convention. Deal with it.

stemcell research have been approved

Research has always been approved. The only problem was, as is usual with liberal arguments, who is going to pay for it. Never enough money for libs...

#57 | Posted by boaz at 2012-01-10 01:46 PM

FALSE.

Bush not allowing embryonic stem cell research had absolutely nothing to do with federal funding.

Do some reseach before you make a specific statement as though it was the truth.

Bush set embryonic stem cell research back by years specifically to cater to the religious fundamentalist crowd and their votes even though it had nothing to do with using any stem cells obtained from abortions. Bush didn't care how many sick people died in the meantime for whom cures might have been found and their lives saved.

The magic religious underwear is the GOP hope...

GOP = god's Ordained Politician...

He talks to the visible man... get ready.... get ready..

the religious control freak show is on the road...

Bush not allowing embryonic stem cell research had absolutely nothing to do with federal funding.
...

"Bush Vetos Stem Cell Funding Legislation"

#64 | Posted by CalifChris at 2012-01-10 02:11 PM

"Why, oh why, do the teatards not get behind Huntsman? Is he too reasonable, too mainstream, certainly they can't say he is not conservative enough."

Exactly. Except that last part--people are trying that. Why does this guy have to defend his conservatism? Faugh.
+++++

"I'm going to start listening more to what he has to say. Although the first time he kisses butt to the Neocon ideology of wanting to nuke Iran on Israel's behalf, he's history."

Might I suggest you listen closely to his stance on Iran? He has been quite clear that he will not abide a nuclear Iran. And that's cool. I don't see him as an Israeli stooge, but I haven't looked closely at that. This guy has lived and breathed diplomacy for a long time. He's smart, engaged, and seriously curious. I don't think he'd be impetuous or weak.

Why does this guy have to defend his conservatism? Faugh.

#67 | Posted by pragmatist at 2012-01-10 02:34 PM

It really is a joke that this guy, with all of his experience on the world stage, is being beaten by the likes of Romney and Santorum. Santorum.

"Bush Vetos Stem Cell Funding Legislation"

Sounds like it had to do with federal funding to me.

#66 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2012-01-10 02:18 PM

Talk about cherry-picking your sentences.

YES, Bush did veto the Stem Cell Funding Legislation.

But, NO, Bush did not veto that legislation because of "who is going to pay for it" -- as Boaz had previously stated.

Bush's veto had nothing to do with any dispute regarding federal funding and everything to do with Bush vetoing it for alleged "moral and ethical reasons" -- as Bush himself stated in that article I see now you apparently neglected to read.

"20 years ago, I bought a basic policy from Blue Cross, so what did change?"

The cost of health care went up at about 3-4 times the rate of inflation. Of course, you wouldn't know that as a government employee who gets his health care fully paid, and has for two decades.

Chris,

I was commenting to that idiot saying that Obama is successful because of the funding. I was saying a dem or liberal would use federal funds because there arent enough funds in the private sector, which is what socialists do all the time. As I said before, socialists and liberals never account for who is going to pay for their utopia. This case is no different. Why use fed funds? I didnt say Bush vetoed it because of who is going to pay for it, but I bet that had something to do with it. He vetoed it on moral grounds.

Of course, you wouldn't know that as a government employee who gets his health care fully paid, and has for two decades.

Jealous? I'm sure there is a recruiter near you willing to put you on the first boat to Afghanistan to earn your benefits.

It's funny to listen to liberals berate the military for the benefits they have rightfully earned. It's funny to see them compare us to welfare receipients. And the comparison is so disenginous(sp?)..

When a welfare receipient gets a W-2 for the job they do to get the benefits, when they leave their families for years at a time when their country asks, when they put their lives on the line in their job the country asks them to do, then the comparison will be valid..

"Jealous? "

Of someone unaware what's happened in the health industry over the last 20 years? No.

"It's funny to listen to liberals berate the military for the benefits they have rightfully earned. "

The only time I begrudge you your hard-earned benefits is when you begrudge others theirs.

"It's funny to see them compare us to welfare receipients."

I'd certainly never do that; I have nothing but respect and awe for our soldiers. You guys earn every dime. Like I said, my disagreement is only when you pretend others shouldn't be given the same respect, or their contracts honored just the same as yours.

Obama got Osama

Using Bush's intel and plan, but ok..

Bush's "plan" was to not do anything in Pakistan. Funny thing is, bin laden was in Pakistan. bush's "intel" was Iraq had WMD. Funy thing is, there were no WMD in Iraq.

You sure you're really in the military, Boaz? You seem awful weak on policy and geography. Almost Bush-like, in fact.

bush's "intel" was

#74 | Posted by northguy3 at 2012-01-10 03:43 PM

Like I said, my disagreement is only when you pretend others shouldn't be given the same respect, or their contracts honored just the same as yours.

Example?

Ron Paul is starting to look like the only honest sum' bitch in the race...

Come on Republicans lets sing..

Who can make the sun shine,make it nice and warn? The magic underwearer man can,yes the magic underwearer man can. He can end a women right to choose,yes the magic underwearer man can.He can stop gay marriage too, yes the magic underwearer man can. Oh he can take the DOW back to where bush left it at 7,949,yes the magic underwearer man can.

Nope

I'm voting for Obama again!

'It really is a joke that this guy, with all of his experience on the world stage, is being beaten by the likes of Romney and Santorum. Santorum."

Says a whole lot about the Republican party right now, no?

(Cue the rw critic cracking about Obama's win saying a lot about the Democratic party. Maybe so. But we're not talking about Obama. Down, boys.)
+++++

"Why use fed funds? "

Because medical research benefits the nation?

Voter intimidation in NH:

1:16 p.m. ET - @deirdrewalshcnn: @ronpaul supporters chanting "free the people! Freedom brigade" @ Manchester polling place yfrog.com/ntsf2uzj

"Example?"

You've said soldiers should get benefits, but ordinary workers shouldn't. Convenient you've forgotten.

Romney is going to win this. I think the republican base is starting to see all this infighting is only helping Obama. I see a consolidation of the party in the next few weeks. Everyone will get behind Romney.

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2012-01-10 10:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well, just in case, remember this republicans;

ROMNEYCARE!!
ROMNEYCARE!!
ROMNEYCARE!!
ROMNEYCARE!!
ROMNEYCARE!!
ROMNEYCARE!!
ROMNEYCARE!!
ROMNEYCARE!!
ROMNEYCARE!!

An the winner is the magic underwear man!
The GOP...god's ordained politician... they talk to the invisiible man.

what a freak show.....

"In New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation primary, with 1 percent of the vote in Mitt Romney leads with 38 percent, followed by Ron Paul at 22 percent, Jon Huntsman at 16 percent, Newt Gingrich at 11 percent, Rick Santorum at 9 percent, and Rick Perry with under 1 percent."

So, by these early numbers we can surmise:

1. 22% of Republicans will not vote for the Republican nominee.
2. Another 9% would not be very likely to vote for the nominee.
3. 16% would likely vote for Obama, possibly 38%.

Don't anyone count out Huntsman--not yet for sure.

#49 | Posted by MURPHY

significant news...finally people are starting to pay attention to Huntsman.

More significant that this is the fact that Ron Paul is now number two!

Interestingly though, while people are starting to pay attention to him the media is managing to mostly ignore him....still.

Barring a downturn in the economy, I think the GOP's goose is cooked.

#5 | Posted by rcade at 2012

I wouldn't go quite that far. But I think it's remarkable what the Republicans have done to themselves over the last two years.

If Willard wins afterall, what is it that he has won? He's a pig with new lipstick, that's all. No one likes him or respects him now, and that's hardly likely to get better for him if the economy is in fact in downturn when he gets in and he doesn't deliver on the miracle he's advertised.

There will be no honeymoon.

Barring a downturn in the economy, I think the GOP's goose is cooked.

#5 | Posted by rcade at 2012

oh yeah...it's gotta suck to have a plank in your platform that depends on America doing badly economically so that your party can somehow do good politically.

"BURNETT: Do you think at this point, unless we’re going to commit, and I’m curious whether you would commit to full on military conflict with Iran, that we have to accept that they will eventually be a nuclear power? It’s more important to figure out how to deal with that than to yell and scream about it happening when its inevitable anyway.

HUNTSMAN: Well, I think they’ve already made the decision to go nuclear. [...]

BURNETT: So, if push comes to shove and this is important, I’m not saying this is something you do tomorrow, but if push comes to shove, if what was between them and a nuclear weapon or there was an uncertainty, required troops invasion, you’d do it?

HUNTSMAN: I can’t live with the implications of not doing it. I can’t live with the thought of what a nuclear Iran brings to the region and what they said about Israel, which is our centerpiece alliance in the region. I can’t live â€" I can’t live with the world with a nuclear Iran.

So, then, you say, what do you do? And realistically, you got to have all options on the table. You got to be prepared to use all elements of national power."

Yeah, 1% of the vote in--that's meaningful. Polls probably haven't even closed in all the stations across the state. Give it a few hours, kids. I know you're excited and all, but Santa doesn't come till after you've gone to bed.

"Romney has shown himself to be a cynical political hack with no core beliefs about anything, some Republicans think that is important.
#3 | Posted by danni"

Not Boaz though. He'll blindly pull the trigger for anyone with an (R) behind his name.

#88

WTG Danni!

Now all the trigger happy Chicken Hawks are all gonna vote for him...thanks a lot.

88--You're easily frightened. Neocon, really? A Wolfowitz kinda guy? PNAC? Huh. I didn't get that sense from him at all. I'll have to do more reading if he gets the nom. Is being willing to use military action in Iran a necessary signifier of neocon status? Really? I mean, I don't love it, but Iran scares me more than Iraq or Afghanistan, if you wanna get down to it. They have espoused the hatred and actually acted directly against us (historically).

And "he speaks well" is a bit like the famous "Barack is articulate," except of course that the ambassador is white. It's demeaning nonsense. The guy is smart, Danni.

And we all know you'll vote for President Obama no matter what.

No surprise. Romney wins.

Does Perry go home now? Does Gingrich? I need to listen to fewer bozos.

"Does Perry go home now?"

Hopefully Babbler isn't a cutter.

BIG DEAL!!! New Hampshire is just another liberal butt hole like Chicago or D.C.

Wishful thinking, there is a significant segment of the GOP who will NEVER get behind Romney.

Dont believe that. I think at this point, republicans would vote for Hillary to put Obama out of office...

#22 | Posted by boaz at 2012-01-10 11:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well, I won't be voting for any of them this year. I'm no longer going to vote for the lesser of two evils, they both drive us in the same direction one slightly slower than the other. No thanks to anyone that won't take the bull by the horns.

Ron Paul is the only politician in this horse race that will get my vote. He's trying to change the party by exposing them nationally for who they are. I doubt he'll run 3rd party and that's too bad. At this point in time I bet he'd win. The establishment democrat party and the republican party both fear him because he'd garner votes from both.

If anyone hasn't figured out by this point that the letter following the name is meaningless but still blindly supports anyone the letter foists up there's probably not much hope for them.

I think the American public at large is ready to turn the two party system on its head.

""Romney has shown himself to be a cynical political hack with no core beliefs about anything

#3 | Posted by danni at 2012-01-10 10:14 AM

Are you sure you are not describing Obama?"

Are you sure she's not describing every last Federal, state, county and local politician we have from border to border, from sea to shining sea?

Are you sure she's not describing every last Federal, state, county and local politician we have from border to border, from sea to shining sea? -- #98 | Posted by MaryTylerWhore

I haven't written off Wyden or Kucinich yet. Did I miss something?

I'm no longer going to vote for the lesser of two evils... -- #97 | Posted by Washboard

Just make sure you show up and vote third party. They need to know you're paying attention.

Based on what? How many votes have been counted?

I mean, no surprise, but it seems early.

Romney is going to win this.

Boaz-we all knew this November 2008. The GOP had chosen Romney minutes after McCain tanked.

The only question is which klownkar passengers will surrender after tonight? I expect Parry and Santorum to run up the white flag after SC.
Of course, Cain is making sounds like he's getting back in after SC.

They know I'm paying attention, Phoenix. I send them nice little notes in their donation envelopes, absent cash.

What a weasel. Watching Mitt Romney speak is like watching a skunk and hoping it doesn't come any closer.

We believe in hope!

--Slick Willard

I'm no longer going to vote for the lesser of two evils... -- #97 | Posted by Washboard

We'd like to believe you, but...

Like Rush Limbaugh and every other "conservative" voter in 2008, Washbaord will have an epiphany and vote straight GOP ticket in November.

more other people's money going to pay for someone else's failure to plan for life.

You get Social Security, right?
Did you have to plan anything to get that?
Must be nice to not have to practice what you preach.

You're against Planned Parenthood, right?
You want to take away services that help people to plan for life.
And then, after making it harder, you want to blame the people for failing.

Sounds like you're just mean-spirited to me.
You don't really have a political outlook.
Just resentment.

I have said for about a week that the thing that interests me most is who drops out now.

Huntsman will run as long as he has money, I bet. He's either very serious or positioning himself for a cabinet position or for 2016. When you have to run against your own party, you're kinda doomed to begin with.

Paul, ditto. Well, the first sentence, I mean.

I expect similar of Gingrich.

Perry should drop out now.
+++++

"Ron Paul is the only politician in this horse race that will get my vote. He's trying to change the party by exposing them nationally for who they are. I doubt he'll run 3rd party and that's too bad. At this point in time I bet he'd win."

It would be interesting if that were so, but I'm not buying it. I think most Americans probably vote by party. And Rep. Paul is still seen as a bit of a whacko by many. I would like him to run third-party, though, and not for the cynical reasons espoused by someone like, oh, Danni.

"Just make sure you show up and vote third party. They need to know you're paying attention."

Posted by Phoenix at 2012-01-10 08:25 PM | Reply

More often than not that's been my choice.

Unlike Ray's claim to not vote at all and then bitch, I do participate; It's a license to bitch. There are at least two ways everyone should participate in government, voting and jury duty.

I doubt Ray's claim of throwing away jury summons.
The sheriff will come looking for you.

We are one nation under God!

--Willard

It's about saving the soul of America!
--Willard

Wow, Ron Paul with 25%. And Huntsman got some votes too.

It makes me think the whole world hasn't gone completely nucking futs.

I'm in favor of opportunity!

--Flipper Romney

We believe in hope! --Slick Willard #105 | Posted by nullifidian

Well, at least he's not lying by promising change.

I'm in favor of freedom and opportunity! And Mom and apple pie! And puppies!

-Flipper

We believe in America! Nobody else does!

--Flipper

It's funny to listen to liberals berate the military for the benefits they have rightfully earned.

Liberals aren't berating the military for having benefits.

What is it, ideologically, you think you're out there fighting for, Boaz? My freedom to not have health care?

All things being equal, do you think America would be better off if everybody had health care? Or are we better off when some have it, and some don't?

Nulli your comments remind me of that guy in Fallout 3, the old coot who says
"God bless the U.S.A. And no place else!

I'm in favor of freedom and opportunity! And Mom and apple pie! And puppies! -- #114 | Posted by nullifidian

Worked for Obama.

Washbaord will have an epiphany and vote straight GOP ticket in November.

#106 | Posted by northguy3 at 2012-01-10 08:30 PM | Reply

Never voted a straight ticket in my life, Carnac.

Holy crap! Romney's speech was a steaming pile of horseshit possibly never seen before. This is the biggest phony of all...fucking...time.

Practice this everyone:

President Romney

Call your therapists, libs.

I confess that I'm a little surprised here. I thought after that "I like to fire people" gaffe, that someone else would take New Hampshire, although I also thought Romney would recover later, courtesy of the steamroller P.R. machine he's concocted.

I never thought someone else would take NH; I hoped, but I didn't expect.

President Romney, Just? Really? You're good with that? Well, I guess a Massachusetts conservative is better than no conservative at all.

Practice this everyone:

President McCain

Call your therapists, libs.

#121 | Posted by justanoversight at 2008-09-10 08:41 PM

There is not enough difference between Obama and Romney to make me care who wins. Coke or Pepsi, take your pick.

Newt would be a better POTUS. But Romney will be IMMENSELY better than the "steaming pile of horseshit (c)Nulli 2012" that currently occupies the White House.

"President Romney"

Remember this: ObamaRomney Care.

Actually, that should be RomneyObama Care, since Flipper passed it first.

Actually it's RomneyObama care.

lol

so Romney wins Iowa with less votes than he got in 2008 and looks like he didn't pick up much support in NH between 2008 and now.

That, my friends, is leadership.

126--Ah, well that tells me all I need to know. Except this: What do you think about Newt's individual mandate? : )

Practice this everyone:
President McCain
Call your therapists, libs.
#121 | Posted by justanoversight at 2008-09-10 08:41 PM

#124 | POSTED BY NORTHGUY3

Yeah...bad call on that one. But think of all the $$ you saved on therapy.

2008
Obeezy 52%
McCain 48%

2012
No yute vote
Moderates trending WAY right
= Pres. Romney

There is not enough difference between Obama and Romney to make me care who wins. -- #125 | Posted by visitor

Since we have no idea which Romney will show up if elected, there's actually a chance that he'll be an improvement over Obama.

Of course, there's also a chance that he'll be a right-wing nut.

"That, my friends, is leadership."

That's not an insignificant point. What's keeping Romney on the scene is the fact that the others are absolutely pitiful candidates. Maybe Huntsman isn't batguanoloco, but most Republicans aren't even aware of who he is.

courtesy of the steamroller P.R. machine he's concocted.

#122 | Posted by MaryTylerWhore at 2012-01-10 08:42 PM | Reply

He hired Obama's old company.

"Maybe Huntsman isn't batguanoloco, but most Republicans aren't even aware of who he is."

Mainstream Republicans--or maybe I should say mainstream conservatives--should like him. I should send his site link to my dad.

I am watching MSNBC and they have 5 squirming sacks of pus doing their commentary.

These maggots aren't even human, they are swollen boils of sickness spreading disease and lies.

No wonder lefties are fucked in the head, they absorb this filth into their brains and it rots them from the inside out.

should like him. I should send his site link to my dad.

Hurry up-he's quitting after SC.

There won't be a brokered convention since Romney will put this thing to bed by the end of February. It'll make it an even race from the standpoint of money and time. If the economy doesn't improve, Romney will win the POTUS.

Since we have no idea which Romney will show up if elected, there's actually a chance that he'll be an improvement over Obama.
#134 | POSTED BY PHOENIX

Danni would be an improvement over Obama. Norfguy, 'Spray, Nulli, Clownshart, my dead grandmother...improvement over Barry the vacation man. Of course, Tim Burton might disagree.

138--Funny how many posts here can be flipped to the "other side" just by changing key words.

(I don't watch commentary. You guys are a lot more fun.)

I am watching MSNBC and they have 5 squirming sacks of pus doing their commentary.
These maggots aren't even human, they are swollen boils of sickness spreading disease and lies.
No wonder lefties are fucked in the head, they absorb this filth into their brains and it rots them from the inside out.

#138 | POSTED BY REXZEITGEIST

LOOK AWAY! LOOK AWAY!

Actually, it reminds me of the Error America days. I would tune in to hear the opposing POV and it was simply unlistenable. What a gaggle of retards.

my dead grandmother...improvement over Barry the vacation man.

Dig her up, and send her to the GOP, because Romney ain't gonna be able to beat Obama.

139--Maybe. But that's in line with my point made upthread (positioning).

"If the economy doesn't improve, Romney will win the POTUS."

I love it! Others on the other side are saying "Unless the economy gets worse, Obama will be re-elected." You political prognosticators are hilarious.

Btw, congrats, Rep. Paul! Damned fine numbers.

=Wow, Ron Paul with 25%. And Huntsman got some votes too.

Mitt finally broke 25 percent?

In his "second home" state? Wonder how he'll do in his "third home" state of CA.

If only Paul and Huntsman could keep that up and then... Paul/Huntsman '012!

Slogan: "He may be nuts, but I speak Chinese!"

my dead grandmother...improvement over Barry the vacation man.
Dig her up, and send her to the GOP, because Romney ain't gonna be able to beat Obama.

#144 | POSTED BY NORTHGUY3

Please review Post #133

Btw, congrats, Rep. Paul! Damned fine numbers.
ditto. ;)

Ron Paul, and no one else, uses the words "military industrial complex". And this is the guy that liberals are scared of?

Election-wise, Romney is Bob Dole with good hair.

Election-wise, Romney is Bob Dole with good hair.
#151 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2012-01-10 09:12 PM

Yes, but supposedly Mitt's arm and dick still works.

151--And two good arms? (Ouch.)

Ron Paul... this is the guy that liberals are scared of? -- #150 | Posted by nullifidian

This lib will vote for him if he runs. Don't agree with his plans to scale back gov't to nothing, but Congress won't let him do it anyway.

Please review Post #133

#148 | Posted by justanoversight

have a peek at this:

Fuck. Just beat me to it (barely). I thought I was over the line, but at least I didn't mention the man's penis.

Oh yeah, Ron Paul. I forgot he was even part of this first primary, amidst all the Romney headlines. Who cares though? The media tells me the other 48 states don't matter at this point.

The survey finds that 58 percent of Republican primary voters want more presidential choices, while just 37 percent say they are satisfied with the current field. The percentage of Republican primary voters that wants more choices has increased 12 percentage points since October.

Mitt Romney, the frontrunner for the nomination, has struggled to break 30 percent support in state and local polls in an election cycle that has seen multiple candidates move ahead of Romney in the polls before seeing their support erode. In this national survey, taken after Romney's narrow victory in the Iowa caucuses, the former Massachusetts governor leads the field - though he holds just 19 percent support. Only 28 percent of GOP primary voters say they've made up their mind, and just 20 percent who've made a choice strongly favor their candidate.

Yes, but supposedly Mitt's arm and dick still works.

#152 | POSTED BY JUSTANOVERSIGHT AT

We'll have to accept expert opinion, I s'pose.

Think it's interesting to note that the 2 counties that have gone to Huntsman, so far, have Paul in second, not Romney.

#158 |

That's frakkin' hilarious.

155--Interesting that generic Republican beats Obama (by a point), but that changes (in some cases, radically) when named Republicans are in the poll.

Okay, I put no stock in polls, but... I find that sort of interesting, the idea of "generic Republican."

160--Where are you seeing county-by-county breakdown? I'd find that interesting.

have a peek at this:

If Rasmussen has it as a tie, Obama is 7 points up.

Exit polls: FORTY SIX PERCENT 18-29 year olds going for Paul.

Interesting how elections will look in twelve years when all the 65+ Romney voters are dead.

Huntsman is fluent in Mandarin.
No one else has any qualifications at all.
I hope he's on the Texas primary ticket, I can finally vote for someone for a reason.

How the hell does Mandarin qualify someone for US President? So they can say "we surrender" properly?

164--Thanks, Adammm.
+++++

Methinks Zat's tongue was at least a bit in cheek. (He always has been a cheeky bastard.) But yeah, foreign cred should matter. It's not so much just that the man speaks the language...

Zat--I think Huntsman missed the ballot in TX--IL and AZ too?

Think it's also really interesting to note that if trends continue, Paul will more than double his vote count over 2008, while Romney will actually have a few thousand fewer. Same case in Iowa.

Obama re election is American's biggest fear by a 2:1 margin. Donald Duck could beat this anti America socialist, although the media will do their best to make you believe otherwise.

No one else has any qualifications at all.

#167 | Posted by Zatoichi

Lol, this is coming from a Obama voter.

Wang Chung, kemosabi

Romney speaks French--still feel the same Prag?

Congrats to Romney and Dr. Paul.

I still don't get how they can call the race with 1% reporting for Romney.

They still don't have half the precincts reporting and they call it for Paul and Huntsman.

#174, I think it's because the major population centers are already counted. A lot of other counties only have a few hundred total voters.

Rex--I watched the MSLSD side for a while.

They all seem worried--?

And they were going after poor Steve Schmidt like a cheap coat in rain.

Give him credit for sticking up for Romney and the repubs.

Ticket to Ride! That's funny...

"Obama re election is American's biggest fear by a 2:1 margin."

Even for you, that's a little over the top.
+++++

"Romney speaks French--still feel the same Prag?"

Yeah, 'cause France is such a big trading partner and political issue for America. And read the rest of my post: "But yeah, foreign cred should matter. It's not so much just that the man speaks the language..." And do a little research on Huntsman (just earlier today, you were likin' the guy).

"They still don't have half the precincts reporting and they call it for Paul and Huntsman."

Well, you know, back in 2000, they called states for Gore, then... changed their mind. : )

"And they were going after poor Steve Schmidt like a cheap coat in rain.

Give him credit for sticking up for Romney and the repubs."

Give him credit for being a Romney sockpuppet? I saw that. What a hack!

Romney/Martinez, or Romney/Rubio, American is off the Socialist bus in 2013

Country First--wasn't that McCain's slogan??

I'm thinkin' that even Nucky Thompson as a write-in candidate could beat Willard.

Perry speaks pig latin. (conversationally)

-Country First--wasn't that McCain's slogan??

Yes. Ironic, isn't it?

179--BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Romney as a true conservative? Damn, you've drunk the Kool-Aid.

180--Yeah, and he lived up to it so well. He also co-opted "Change!" for a while. And the only change we saw was Sarah's outfits. : )

"How the hell does Mandarin qualify someone for US President?"

Damn boy, you're more hilariously stupid than Rex.

Hunstman is right on the Trust thing--sounds corny--but he's right.

Can't get term limits though--without a constitutional amendment I think.

Zeitgeist 12'

'I will slap the stink off your teeth!'

Perry is a good guy, and has done a great job in Texas. However, his gift was not public speaking. We are going up against Mr. Teleprompter himself, so sorry Rick. Keep doing great work in Texas

Just made my first $100 bet...

Obama 4 more years.... easy money cha cheng....

Romney is a moderate, or did he have to govern as a moderate because of the overwhelming democratic majority in Mass? This is why we need a hispanic conservative to tilt the ticket strongly conservative. Rubio, or Martinez would be great picks.

just made my bet 25000 against Obama

Wow, when you only win 7% of what a loser like Gingrich won (10%), you've gotta be the worst loser on the political planet. From where does Texas keep coming up with these horrid little Republican governors? Yeah, I know, I know. From their own population.

If you cannot speak your enemy's language, you cannot comprehend his thoughts. None of the other candidates have any qualification at all.

190--Look, a non-answer to a direct question! Love it! Is Brian the rw Truthteller?

It's as if Ed Schultz and Chris Matthew have crawled in Truthteller101's head and have taken a big steaming shit.

Well, you know, back in 2000, they called states for Gore, then... changed their mind. : )

#177 | Posted by pragmatist

Yeah cuz' the media doesn't know time changes in the state of Florida.

Huntsman would be infinitely better than Obama--but you wouldn't vote for him--neither would NG3--or Dan.

If he's our nominee--I would vote for him in a heart beat!

Ticket to Ride!! I like that--lol

#193 | Posted by Zatoichi

Sounds like some Art of War shit?

lots of money going to bet on this race...

I'm an independent prag. I do feel the need to vote out anti American radicals on the left or right. Obama is an anti American radical. You would not know that because he is a "liberal black democrat", which means you don't get vetted by the media.

Zat speaks the language of adult diapers and drool bibs.

"Yeah cuz' the media doesn't know time changes in the state of Florida."

Huh?

"Huntsman would be infinitely better than Obama--but you wouldn't vote for him--neither would NG3--or Dan."

Really, and how do you know what I would do? Impressive, 'cause I don't know. I said to a rw colleague yesterday, "I don't know. I'd have to take a serious look." Very presumptuous, Murphy. Now if you wanna say there's no way I'd vote for Santorum, Perry, Gingrich, or Romney, you'd be right.

And regardless, I think Obama should face a serious challenger.

Don't let the media cover up fool you, Obama has no chance in 2012.

199--So how do you know it?

And btw, you don't "speak" like an independent. I've read many of your posts over the last week or so. Independent? I don't see it. In fact, the first hint of moderate I've seen is your apparent support of Romney in this thread.

There is no doubt Huntsman is far more qualifed to be president then Obama and would be a far far more competent president then the stooge who is currently stinking the White House up.

Give him credit for being a Romney sockpuppet? I saw that. What a hack!

#178 | Posted by nullifidian

Why Nulli?

He wasn't a hack at all. He was the only right of center person at the desk with the libs and Chris Matthews via satellite--just hating on Romney--twisting and contorting what the man said in his NH speech!

Oh, Rex. So will you vote for him in your state's primary?

Don't let the media cover up fool you, Obama has no chance in 2012.

#202 | Posted by Brian320

Of course he has a chance--he's the damn incumbent!

Sorry, I voted for Clinton's second term, even thought I did not agree with a lot of his policies. I have strong opposition to Obama because he is an anti American radical plain and simple.

No way in hell will people elect a magic religious underwear freak..

not this time, even though most people are afraid to confront a "liberal black democrat" publicly, behind the scenes people are figuring this man out. If we could get past race in this country it would be more evident.

"you wouldn't vote for him--neither would NG3--or Dan"

I've been on record supporting Huntsman for months, Einstein.

So there are 11 days to SC with a Fox debate scheduled for Monday the 16th.

Newt better get back on message and stop this nonsense about Bain. He was a consultant himself for a private equity group!

Florida is the 31st.

Then caucuses in February

Here it is--

I've been on record supporting Huntsman for months, Einstein.

#211 | Posted by Danforth

Just checking--lol

Romney winning both Iowa and New Hampshire is a sign that he's in stronger shape than the major media is claiming. They want things to be up in the air because that gets higher ratings. I think if he wins South Carolina the rest of the primary calendar is a coronation.

"Romney speaks French"

Actually, "Des sous-vêtements magiques, s'il vous plaît" is enough for him to get by on.

Well, that and "Cher ange Moroni, Bain Capital a pris vos assiettes d'or."

Parle vois france? ;o)

#214 | Posted by rcade

You hit it on the head. Follow the money - where are the media owner's money going to? Inflated popularity has been the name of the game ever since Palin. Any other media created "front runners"? Who's turn is it next? Romney can't sweep all of these primaries....can he?

#214 | Posted by rcade

It's all the folks splitting up the votes.

I agree with you that with the results of SC the bottoms will be going home. They should be going home anyway.

I will be voting for Romney.

Romney can't sweep all of these primaries....can he?

#217 | Posted by rstybeach11

Sure he can.

McCain started with NH and beat Huckabee along the way--he may have won AR.

Everyone dropped out after super Tuesday.

It'll pretty much be over after South Carolina and if not, then Florida will drive the final nail into the coffin.

Ron Paul is skipping some voting primaries and concentrating on the caucuses where he believes he will do better.

He will stay as long as the money is there--and he's on all the ballots.

Whereas, the other candidates (except Romney) have missed the ballot in various states.

Huntsman missed 3 states and has to file suit.

Only Romney and Paul are on VA ballot.

Perry got in too late and then oops himself.

If he doesn't get 3rd or better in SC he will likely go back home.

When the money goes--so does the candidate.

I agree with you that with the results of SC the bottoms will be going home. They should be going home anyway.

Posted by MURPHY

Really. Well, where will the tops go if the bottoms leave?

Here's the deal people:

Hillary wants to be POTUS. Everyone is BEGGING her to be Barry's VEEP. But she won't hitch her wagon to a loser. So she's setting up for a run against Mr. Spray-on Tan from Mass in 2016.

Face it: Obama blew it. He's a lousy president. America knows it. The economy knows it. The Clintons know it. We just need November 6th to come around to make it official.

Really. Well, where will the tops go if the bottoms leave?

#223 | Posted by nullifidian

Sounds like a question for Obama about Reggie.

The race is down to Romney and Paul!

The rest of the clown are done...Ron Paul has the best chance to beat Obama..Romney is a joke...

#215 - WTW - très drôle!

NIcely done. Vraiment.

Apparently I need tips on how to post en francais - and get past the parser.

#228 | Posted by YAV

Apparemment...

behind the scenes people are figuring this man out.

No way will the people elect a magic underwear man...
Ron Paul... yes.... magic underwear man ... no

Religious crap doesn't sell anymore....

One thing for sure--Romney and Paul are an item.

Paul has a bunch of bank--just heard he's collected 10 million in the month of January. It's only the 10th!!

Paul will collect delegates and at some point the RNC or Romney or both will have to go in the kitchen and cook with Paul.

Paul wants his message out--maybe a cabinet position--speech at the convention...

If the conversation is agreeable--Paul would give his delegates to the front runner--if Romney or whoever.

They have to do something so he doesn't go rogue or third party.

"Religious crap doesn't sell anymore...."

Sure it does.

And if it keeps even a small percentage from voting for magicunderwear man then that just might be the difference in November.

#230 great post HANS ....

Romney doesn't wow me, but we have to make allowances in that he is from Massachusetts. He has been a governor and has been in business and straightened out the Olympic games mess. He is not as conservative as I would like. He doesn't seem to get flustered. He has the looks for being a President. He is not unlikeable-could come across as more likeable. But seems to be the best of the lot and may have a better chance of defeating Obama than any of the others. Mormonisn is a better faith than that liberation theology or whatever Jeremiah Wright was pushing. Tomney would never say or feel, "God Damn America."

And this attack on Romney and Bain is going nowhere.

People will rally around the guy who sticks up for free markets and capitalism.

Coulter and DeMint just released "cut it out Newt!" statements saying Romney's all about capitalism.

"People will rally around the guy who sticks up for free markets and capitalism."

Already heard that from the Romney hack, Steve Schmidt. Maybe you ought to turn the channel. You're just repeating everything they say on MSNBC, Murphy.

"And this attack on Romney and Bain is going nowhere."

On the other hand, this is an ad which writes itself:

"I like being able to fire people"

Obama is the magicunderwearsniffer, just ask Bill Frist.

From Hans link--

“When you have someone like Franklin Graham going on CNN and saying he has no problem voting for a Mormon like Mitt Romney and Osteen saying Mormons are Christian, it is clear that politics are being put before the eternal soul of man.”

LOL

I would say there are quite a few other items on the list markedly higher than Mormons that affect the eternal soul of man.

Mormons are Christians. They believe in Jesus.

When pointing out the eccentricities of a particular religion--folks should be careful when throwing stones.

"I like being able to fire people"

#239 | Posted by Hans

Yeah I would like to fire people for poor services too.

I Know you do! ;o)

Obama is the magicunderwearsniffer, just ask Bill Frist.

#240 | Posted by RexZeitgeist

No Obama is the magic negro--just ask the LA Times.

"Mormonisn is a better faith than that liberation theology or whatever Jeremiah Wright was pushing."

#238 | Posted by nullifidian

Mark Levin is a better source...

Obama is a miserable failure.

Mormonism is a religious cult. Like the taliban....

Just a bunch of religious control freaks!

"Yeah I would like to fire people for poor services too."

Ah, nuance.

C'mon people, it is Black Liberation Theology, google the damn thing up and read about it, listen to James Cone, listen to Jeremiah Wright.

Lose the ignorance.

"Mormons are Christians. They believe in Jesus."

Not according to Not according to Bill Keller, the founder of LivePrayer.com, which has over 2.4 million subscribers:

Keller says every Christian leader's main concern should be the eternal man, and any follower of a cult like Mormonism will spend an eternity in hell. He calls Osteen an "idiot" and a "gutless coward," saying mainstream Biblical scholars assert that Mormon beliefs do not coincide with Biblical doctrine.

According to Keller, the Bible teaches that any group calling themselves Christian without adhering to Christian beliefs is a cult - and Mormons are the worst offenders.

Confuses the low-thinkers.

Black liberaton theology believes that the white god (or Jesus) must bow to the black god (or Jesus), or the white god should be killed, because if the white god (the opressor) does not subjagate to the black god (the opressed), he is no god at all and he deserves to die.

James Cone would grab me and give me a giant hug, because I understand what he is saying EXACTLY.

Donald Duck could beat this anti America socialist,

Too bad the GOP isn't running Donald Duck, cause obama is kicking the current crop's asses.

Obama blew it. He's a lousy president. America knows it. The economy knows it.

Apparently the voters don't know it, or, at best for you, recognize that none of the current GOP crop will be even as good as him. If the GOP had anything other than 4 more years of Bush's economic stupidity, you might have an argument, but right now the GOPpers and their Kandiklowns are bent on doubling down on the philosophy that killed the economy in 2008.

Rev Wright a military vet who served 9 years and a USMC...

and how many years did you serve REXZEIT

It appears that Hans is one of those American's using race to rationalize his own personal failures. America is moving forward and Hans is being left behind with all his reverse racism and bigotry. The rest of us, true Americans of all racial backgrounds, will enjoy a return to prosperity. A place were the lack of hard work is the only limitation. Our communities will no longer be segregated by divisive prefixes in front of the word America. My Black brothers and sisters will be known not as "African American's", but simply Americans

"...that the white god (or Jesus)..."

Rev Wright has done nothing then breed more hate and racism.

Don't anyone count out Huntsman--not yet for sure.

#49 | Posted by MURPHY

He had his 10 count. NH was his only shot at staying in the race, and ronpaul1776 just ate his lunch.

RCADE: the media has been playing up the challenges to Romney simply because there are none. He was anointed by the GOP in 2008. I think what's interesting is that Republicans like Santorum and Gingrik recognize he's a terribly weak candidate for the GOp and think they could take him out. He's John Mccain redux, only with no legacy of Dubya's failures hanging over his head. When righties go after you for being a capitalist, you know something's wring.

I was in the army for 5 years, you fricking dimwit.

What does that have to do about anything?

I served at the same time John Allen Mohammmed and Timothy McVeigh served, are they your pals too?

Hans, do you have a working knowledge of Black Liberation Theology?

Obama is not kicking the current GOP fields tail, unless you are asking Chris Mattews or Maddow. Romney is up 6, and Paul is tied with the Messiah.

"Romney Wins New Hampshire"

Good for him.
I sure don't want it.

When Jim Demint sticks up for Romney--so will the Tea Party.

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Hans--when Romney says he likes to fire people who are insurance companies for poor services--you look foolish trying to spin it ...

And when Keller gets busted with some prostitute or gay guy--that's the end of Mr. Keller.

"Hans--when Romney says he likes to fire people who are insurance companies for poor services--you look foolish trying to spin it ..."

There's that nuance again.

Having to explain what a candidate meant.

#262 | Posted by MURPHY at 2012-01-10 11:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Romney said he liked to fire people--not insurance sompanies. Romney said he feared getting fired. You'll believe anything. Party over country.

When righties go after you for being a capitalist, you know something's wring.

#257 | Posted by northguy3

You missed the Rush show today--then Mark Levin...

The rw pundits are circling the wagons and telling Newt to knock it off.

Newt was very subdued in his sppech tonight--not one bite mark on the back side of Romney. Someone is telling him to knock it off--besides me!

"And when Keller gets busted with some prostitute or gay guy--that's the end of Mr. Keller."

RexZeitgeist

I served 22 years in the army retire in 1978,at age of 40. Then worked 24 years for a great company. So I know what its like to pay into the system for many years..

But I still will vote for a democrat over a republican..

No one can fire Hans because despite his terrible service he hides behind cowardly defenses like the "race card". Han's is a slow learner, democratic party poster boy.

#264 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2012

bs--I heard the whole damn thing several times--he was talking about insurance companies and how people can fire them if they don't like them--He likes to fire people who give poor services.

It's too bad you're stuck with a candidate who likes to fire people, Murphy. That's the way the cookies crumble.

Thanks for your service of 22 years. Not all democrats are bad people who live off the effort and hard work of others. I have voted for Democrats, albeit rarely. I don't believe in taking from others, which had been a consistent platform of the democratic party.

"And when Keller gets busted with some prostitute or gay guy..."

Besides, the point isn't the messenger.

The point is one group of evangelicals in a pissing match with other evangelicals over what is and what isn't "Christian," especially when a presidential election is at stake, regardless of who is the messenger.

As I said, it confuses the low-thinkers, and could be the difference in a close race.

It's not too bad for us, Romney is going to look like Reagan compared to the Obama disaster.

I served at the same time John Allen Mohammmed and Timothy McVeigh served, are they your pals too?

#258 | Posted by RexZeitgeist at 2012-01-10 11:00 PM |

I always wonder what they were thinking as they killed? I wonder if they mentally justified their actions?

Did any of you lefties listen to Romney's entire comment, or his 3 seconds the extent of your attention span? Please, just like Obama's America is lazy comment, totally taken out of context. Hans is the only one who would not fire someone for only painting half of his government subsidized home the wrong color.

"bs--I heard the whole damn thing several times--he was talking about insurance companies and how people can fire them if they don't like them--He likes to fire people who give poor services."

Spending even a moment "explaining" "I like being able to fire people" is a weak, losing position.

You'd be better off just admitting that it was a stupid thing to say and attempt to change the subject (and hope that people forget it).

And that's today's politics.

I bet Weasel Willard gets a hard-on every time he hands out a pink slip.

So what Teller101?

What does that have to do with Jeremiah Wright, you don't even know what it is he preached or what he personally believes.

I bet you have no idea he fathered at least two children with white women outside of his marriage, both of whom worked for other black pastors outside of Chicago.

Can you tell me the connenctions between Trinity United in Chicago, the New Black Panther party, and the Nation of Islam?

Can you tell me what Jeremiah Wright thought about the United States?

No, you can't.

Until your ignorant ass has something to congent to add to the dialectic, shut the fuck up about Jeremiah Wirght.

republicans have said they want to do means testing for social security.

Means testing! we paid into it our whole lives,thats our money...

I don't trust republicans with social security..

It didn't stop Obama.

Romney gave his speech back in 2008 over being a Mormon.

He wears (or maybe wears) magic underwear and the Catholic Pope wears the damnest funniest hate evar! Oh--and they do exorcisims.. And they tell their sins to some guy on the other side of a wall...

I was born Catholic--my Mom had to sign a contract to bring the children up born in the marriage--Catholic--so the marriage was recognized by the Church.

Love my Dad--but damn--either she converted or it was the kids raised in it.

No one is perfect--not even Christians--and certainly not Mr. Keller.

He'll back away from his comments--keep us posted --ok.

"...painting half of his government subsidized home..."

Every American who takes an income tax deduction on the interest paid on their mortgage is enjoying government subsidization of their home.

Rex what is your problem with Bill Ayre's? What did he do that is so wrong in your opinion?

Both were crazy JA....

Hans, I'm sure your not paying for any of your housing cost because of the hardship placed on you by white America. Sorry Hans!

#276 | Posted by Hans

It's stupid to cut off the front of the context and the back of the context--but libs will do stuff like that.

The sentence by itself sounds ridiculous--on it's face!

But libs believe that about all employers.

#282 | Posted by jackass

Bombing fellow Americans and public property is a good place to start.

So I take it RexZeitgeist you never served in the military...
You just run your mouth... OK I got it..

Every American who takes an income tax deduction on the interest paid on their mortgage is enjoying government subsidization of their home.

#281 | Posted by Hans

I saw somewhere it's (almost) half a trillion dollars--every year --on mortgage deductions?

Bombing fellow Americans and public property is a good place to start.

#286 | Posted by RexZeitgeist at 2012-01-10 11:23 PM

But Rex you have to think he was doing what he thought was right. In his mind armed insurrection was the only viable course to bring about the change he wanted. The road to socialism will not be easy.

Hans doesn't realize that Ayers was a domestic terrorist. I guess bombing public places and putting innocent people at risk terrorism. Hans hopes that he can be elevated in society without doing any hard work, dam racist whites.

"Hans, I'm sure your not paying for any of your housing cost because of the hardship placed on you by white America."

Yes. Because everyone knows...

[snark] Hans is such a well-known African-American name. [/snark]

[snark] Hans is such a well-known Hispanic name. [/snark]

[snark] Hans is such a well-known Chinese name. [/snark]

etc., etc., etc...

Truthteller yes Rex served.

It's too bad you're stuck with a candidate who likes to fire people, Murphy.

Which candidate is that, dull?

#287 | Posted by truthteller101

Hey nimrod--scroll up some posts and you will read that Rex was in the Army.

You finally contribute something to a thread besides yout bigoted spam and you phuck it up.

"I saw somewhere it's (almost) half a trillion dollars--every year --on mortgage deductions?"

That would not surprise me, Murphy.

It is big.

You're right Hans, you just argue from a far left position and defense of reverse racism theology and policy. You must be a victim of someone/something

drudge, put an edit function, my iphone sucks lol

You don't know Bill Ayers until you have read the Prairie Fire, you don't understand Black Liberation Theology until you understand James Cone and Jeremiah Wright.

You can not understand Michelle and Barrack Obama until you understand both.

I am the only one here who has spent the time to learn what the President and his wife believe on this entire site, even though I have posted the information 20 times.

That is embarrassing.

I want to say it's like 467 billion--can that be right? It can't be 467 million--could it?

Try to find a link...

Hey jackass good to see you back on here!

As for Bill Ayres ... He a college professor at a Ill college,and he's on the school board.. He never has been conviced of anything..

Look it up your selves...

black liberation theology is 100 percent racist. Two wrong don't make a right!

He likes to fire people who give poor services.

#269 | Posted by MURPHY at 2012-01-10 11:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's what I said he said.

Oh--the total is 185 billion

"It's stupid to cut off the front of the context and the back of the context--but libs will do stuff like that."

Oops:

"You're right Hans..."

Of course I am.

That's what I said he said.

#302 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

lol

Yeah--I like to fire idiots too!

Don't you want to fire someone at the DMV--or the post office--or the hospital--or at a restaurant??

Come on--you are cranky enough--probably want to fire a whole bunch of turds...

"Our final goal is the destruction of imperialism, the seizure of power, and the creation of socialism. Our strategy for this stage of the struggle is to organize the oppressed people of the imperial nation itself to join with the colonies in the attack on imperialism. This process of attacking and weakening imperialism involves the defeat of all kinds of national chauvinism and arrogance; this is a precondition to our fight for socialism."

Bill Ayers wrote that.

I agree 100%. We must bring socialism to this country for us as a nation to prosper. Redistribution of wealth is the key to the success of this nation.

"Socialism is the total opposite of capitalism/imperialism. It is the rejection of empire and white supremacy. Socialism is the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie, the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and the eradication of the social system based on profit. Socialism means control of the productive forces for the good of the whole community instead of the few who live on hilltops and in mansions. Socialism means priorities based on human need instead of corporate greed. Socialism creates the conditions for a decent and creative quality of life for all."

This is brilliant stuff from Ayers.

Yeah I would like to fire people for poor services too.

Me too, Murph. A couple of years ago, I had a contractor who was redoing a bathroom in one of my houses. He was doing an extremely shitty job. I was happy to be able to fire him. Had I not been able to fire him, I would have been very unhappy that my money was wasted.

I wonder why the lefties whining about this aren't happy they have the choice to get rid of bad workers? They always say it's the right wing who own the businesses and corporations. Well, not wanting to have the ability to fire bad people goes a long way towards explaining why the left fails at business. Damn, they're stupid if they are sad to get rid of bad workers.

Hey truth teller, you better check your records. Familiar with the terrorist group called the "weatherman"? Correct he was not convicted and that was crime in itself. However, he has spoken openly about his involvement in those bombings and his reasons why? There is never a rational case for domestic terrorism. Wasn't he denied entry to Canada because of the horrific nature of his crimes despite not getting a conviction.

#304 | Posted by Hans at

It's not a good message when you cut it up Hans!!!

You took it out of context.

Obama is relying on negative ads this go around--so whoever our nominee is better have a billion dollars too!

Isn't that what politics has come to?

Use the guys words to show they are worse than the other??

jackass, you name suits your intelligence level. You really believe we live in an empire with rampant white supremacy? Really???

This is brilliant stuff from Ayers.

#308 | Posted by jackass

Bill Ayres is an evil killer--It will be a happy day when he .......

jackass

so the man has an opinion!

still he was never conviced of anything...

jackass, you name suits your intelligence level. You really believe we live in an empire with rampant white supremacy? Really???

#312 | Posted by Brian320 at 2012-01-10 11:39 PM |

Evil rich white Republicans control most of this nation and must be displaced from power.

Of course it is brillant stuff, Bill Ayers can fricking write his ass off, and Prarie Fire is his masterpiece.

Obama jizzed his pants the first time he read this book, he was blown away by Ayers.

I was.

actually jackass is right!

Jackass, I really feel sorry for you. You failed in life and want to take down the country. Very sad. You sound like a minority who could not cut it. Your right the white people hold all minorities back, not their own lack of ambition. I should tell all my black friends to quit their high paying jobs because the white man will stop them, Idiots arn't they.

It is just too bad we can't elect a man like Ayers to the oval office. I though Obama would be it bud sadly he is just another moderate. This country needs someone who will take this country to the far left.

you name suits your intelligence level
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

I wonder why the lefties whining about this aren't happy they have the choice to get rid of bad workers? They always say it's the right wing who own the businesses and corporations. Well, not wanting to have the ability to fire bad people goes a long way towards explaining why the left fails at business. Damn, they're stupid if they are sad to get rid of bad workers.

#309 | Posted by goatman

No--Obama wants us to turn into France--forced to hire some jackass and never be able to fire them--for LIFE!!!

The problem with some folks--it that they fail to understand that we can only make choices amoung alternatives actually available.

The only way anyone can have a right--to a job--that has to be produced is to force someone else to produce it for him/her.

The more things are provided as rights--like a job--the less the recipients have to work and the more others have to carry their load.
Thomas Sowell

"Yeah--I like to fire idiots too!"

And, at its core, that is the problem with Romney's statement, nuance defense or not.

Don't you want to fire someone at the DMV--or the post office--or the hospital--or at a restaurant??"

That person at the DMV, or the post office, or the hospital, or at a restaurant, is a fellow human being. Most have families to support, dreams of a comfortable life in retirement, and maybe even something to leave his/her children after they die.

Every employer/boss, who takes the job seriously, knows that firing someone is a tough challenge. Having to fire someone who has worked for you comes with the knowledge that they might lose their families, and their dreams of a comfortable retirement go up-in-smoke.

"Liking" being able to fire "idiots"? Maybe they're just having a bad day.

And that is the problem with Romney's statement:

It is a calloused, uncaring statement.

And Americans, who are already fearful of the economy, are justified of being fearful of a "leader" who likes being able to fire people.

Especially one who made his millions doing just that: firing people.

Ayers is a beat up old man now, I saw him spreading his poison to a small group of squatter filth and you could tell his force had greatly diminished.

Dangerous but neutered..

Don't give up jackass republicans are trying to run a magic underwearer religious freak. So it not over yet!

"opposition to Obama because he is an anti American radical plain and simple"

That's funny 'cause I don't believe for a second that he's a radical or anti-American. Perceptions are strange things.
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223--FF.
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"Tomney would never say or feel, "God Damn America.""

Of course, you meant Romney there. But btw, nor did Obama.
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"reverse racism"

No such thing. Racism is racism, no matter who is perpetrating it or in which direction.
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"just like Obama's America is lazy comment"

Uh-oh, Brian defended the anti-American radical!
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298: I LOVE Internet geniuses who say shit like "I AM THE ONLY ONE!" (Who are you anyway, Connor McLeod?)

Good night my marxist friends. Unlike the both of you, some of us have to work to pay for leeches like you.

still he was never conviced of anything...

#314 | Posted by truthteller101

It's what happens when daddy is a millionaire with connections.

Along with his slut wife Dorn--who screwed everything from one coast to the other...They will get theirs--it's called karma.

Hans what most people don't realize that most republicans don't care about the welfare of their fellow man. If it were up to them they would like having the ability to fire people for any and all reasons if it meant saving a buck. I have heard republicans talk about how they think it isn't their responsibility to provide workers comp for their employees. Republicans by nature only care about money. Even Goatman by his actions has proven that he cares more about money than his own family.

¡ Yo me gusta terminar trabajodores malos también !

¡ jajajaja !

"Obama is relying on negative ads this go around--so whoever our nominee is better have a billion dollars too!"

Unlike Romney or whoever the R candidate is? That person won't use negative ads? Good, get him to sign a pledge, then hold him to it.

Romney will NEVER beat Obama.......it's like when Republicans picked Bob Dole to run against Bill Clinton

Republicans talk alot about the small businesses...

Oh sure,50% of all small businesses don't offer their employees any benefits.. surely you heard about part time... thats the game they play..

Along with his slut wife Dorn--who screwed everything from one coast to the other...They will get theirs--it's called karma.

#327 | Posted by MURPHY at 2012-01-10 11:50 PM

Wishful thinking. Ayers has been more successful than you could ever imagine. He has parlayed his exploits into wealth beyond most of our wildest dreams. Ayers is a hero of the left. If that is his Karma I would have to say I wish I got some of that too. Murphy what you have is envy of Ayers. You wish you had his intelligence and success but that is something you will never know.

Especially one who made his millions doing just that: firing people.

#322 | Posted by Hans

Liar--liar pants on fire. 4 pinocchios for that one Hans...

And if you are ticked off and able to fire your insurance company--which is what he was talking about--you would feel pretty good.

Like Goat firing the crooked contractor.

What a relief!

Even Trump doesn't "Like" firing people and he does it for money!!

Romney will NEVER beat Obama.......

And people were just as adamant that Reagan would NEVER beat Carter in 1980. He took 44 states -- the first time. After all, Reagan had all this baggage, was divorced, Carter brokered the Camp David peace accords. He was a shoe in!

and how many years did you serve REXZEIT

Rex has 5 years in the USO. hell of a donut maker and looks good in short skirts. Or so 101 says.

#333 | Posted by jackass

LOL

Suuuuuurrreeeee....lol

Says a whole lot about the Republican party right now, no?

#79 | Posted by pragmatist at 2012-01-10 05:21 PM

I agree no way in hell will the magic underwear man beat Obama!

"Even Trump doesn't "Like" firing people and he does it for money!!"

It's the word fire. I have fired people, and I have been fired-and there is no comparison in how much more excruciating the former process is. I know, agree with, and have even written a book about all the reasons why "flexibility" in the labor force is a good thing for companies and for the overall economy. People need to be held accountable for good or bad performance. Economies need to be able to move from the old-old markets, technologies, regions, emphases-and open up to the new. Companies very often need to "right-size" to survive. We all understand these truths. They are part of America's strength.

But people with any experience on either side of a firing know that, necessary as it might be, it is hard. Or it should be. It's wrenching, it's humiliating, it disrupts families, it creates shame and anger alike-notwithstanding the fact that often it absolutely has to happen. Anyone not troubled by the process-well, there is something wrong with that person. We might want such a person to do dirty work for us. (This might be the point where the Romney campaign wants to take another look at Up In The Air.) We might value him or her as a takeover specialist or at a private equity firm. But as someone we trust, as a leader? No - not any more than you can trust a military leader who is not deeply troubled when his troops are killed.

James Fallows

Unlike Romney or whoever the R candidate is? That person won't use negative ads? Good, get him to sign a pledge, then hold him to it.

#330 | Posted by pragmatist

It's going to be brutal Prag--the PAC's are going to have a hay day.

They already spent 18 million starting in Iowa to FL...and they are not done.--sadly.

Romney won't have to air any negative ads. Obama will--otherwise what is he going to spend his billion on? Get out the vote with ACORN??

Hans--I've been fired--a few times--lol It sucks!

And I posted I hired and fired a gal in the same week--That sucked!

Romney will NEVER beat Obama.......

And people were just as adamant that Reagan would NEVER beat Carter in 1980. He took 44 states -- the first time. After all, Reagan had all this baggage, was divorced, Carter brokered the Camp David peace accords. He was a shoe in!

#335 | Posted by goatman at 2012-01-10 11:56 PM | Reply

NO, no, no, nooooo....
At SOME POINT, someone will take an HONEST look at LDS/Mormonism....and it will be OVER!

Not antiMormon propaganda, an HONEST examination...of their history, the Doctrines and Covenants, the Book of Mormon....much less actually having a real discussion with a Mormon---all of which lead to a dismissal of the insanity that is the LDS religion.

Obama is just cleaning up the white men mess! Hey he already has the DOW up 4,500 points... so far so good!

Hey he already has the DOW up 4,500 points...

Bush had it up to over 14,000. Your point?

On Jan 20th 2009 the day bush left office the DOW was 7,949

On Jan 20th 2009 the day bush left office the DOW was 7,949

That doesn't answer my question.

The DOW was 10,940 the Day Clinton left office..

ok. IOW, you have no point, shitteller.

Got it.

LoD -- what is this thing with "magic underwear" so many lefties keep talking about anyway? Did I miss something?

Religious freaks and the magic underwear,is all the GOP has..
They talked to the invisible man.....OBEY OBEY......

truthteller -- what is this about magic underwear that you keep rambling on about?

goatman look it up! Bill Clinton Had over a 7,000 point gain in the DOW in his 8 years in office..

Factfind.org learn the truth it will set you free!

Toothsmeller must be a stroke survivor.

Mormon are religious freaks they wear magic religious underwear...

Look it up .... factfind.org

goatman look it up! Bill Clinton Had over a 7,000 point gain in the DOW in his 8 years in office..

Yes, I get it. You are too afraid to answer my question.

Now shut up and go suck on your magic underwear.

google it....Mormons (common term for "LDS") wear special "magic" underwear....look it up

LoD -- what is this thing with "magic underwear" so many lefties keep talking about anyway? Did I miss something?

#351 | Posted by goatman at 2012-01-11 12:13 AM

But Truthteller has taken it to an ass-sniffing extreme. It's almost worse than "Thread sucks!"

Toothsmeller must be a stroke survivor.

You mean she's actually alive? I heard her parents didn't have any kids who survived.

I don't know the full religious background of the Mormon faith but there are some undergarments they wear during one of the spiritual ceremonies.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the explanation. I wonder why poopsmeller is so obsessed with it? She has a men's underwear fetish I guess.

seriously....the LDS thing will be THE BIGGEST reason Mitt loses if he gets the nomination....a HUGE LIABILITY.

Just because many of you dismiss ALL religion, use just a BIT of your critical thinking and do a casual perusal of the religion to see what I'm talking about....

Thats why republicans will vote for someone who talks to the invisible man.. LIVE_OR_DIE

Thats why republicans will vote for someone who talks to the invisible man..

Apparently the democrats will too. Or do you think it was the republicans who put Obama in office, poopsmeller?

Poopsmeller is the best you can do. I guess you are as dumb as bwe thought.

"Bush had it up to over 14,000."

Not at this point in his Presidency. On January 9th, 2004, the DJIA closed about 100 points below where Dubya inherited it. By the time Dubya leaves office, the Dow will have dropped another 21%.

"you are as dumb as bwe thought."

Classic.

Crapman ...Republicans are known as religious freaks..

Not at this point in his Presidency. On January 9th, 2004, the DJIA closed about 100 points below where Dubya inherited it. By the time Dubya leaves office, the Dow will have dropped another 21%

That kind of shit happens when the entire planet goes into a severe recession.

..Republicans are known as religious freaks..

Broadbrushers are known as idiots and are always wrong.

"Romney won't have to air any negative ads."

If I were like some here, I would hold on to this quote, and deluge you with the 113 negative ads the Romney campaign will produce. And isn't it worse to make negative ads if you "don't have to"? This is silly, Murphy--negative ads is how modern campaigns work.

"Broadbrushers are known as idiots and are always wrong."

Complete agreement. Goat, you've never spoken of "liberals" being x or doing y, now have you? : )

People won't support a Mormon...

Or any other religious control freak. bottom line...

Goat, you've never spoken of "liberals" being x or doing y, now have you? : )

Sure I have.

Or any other religious control freak. bottom line...

???

Then how do they get put into office?

Thats why republicans will vote for someone who talks to the invisible man.. LIVE_OR_DIE

#363 | Posted by truthteller101 at 2012-01-11 12:26 AM

Barack Obama: Praying to Be 'An Instrument of God's Will'

The prayer that I tell myself every night is a fairly simple one: I ask in the name of Jesus Christ that my sins are forgiven, that my family is protected and that I am an instrument of God's will. I'm constantly trying to align myself to what I think he calls on me to do. And sometimes you hear it strongly and sometimes that voice is more muted.

turdnugget.

More Obama talking to the invisible man:

I'm still trying to figure out why this clown calls himself "truthteller" when most of his posts are anything but.

Romney winning both Iowa and New Hampshire is a sign that he's in stronger shape than the major media is claiming. They want things to be up in the air because that gets higher ratings.

I've been thinking about this lately. Polls are always done with an error of plus/minus three percent.

They could easily sample more people and get the error down to one or two percent.

But they don't, because it's more dramatic when the candidates are in a "statistical dead heat."

The only ad that matters will be "Vote Romney. He's the WHITE one."

In the end, that really is all they got.

In the end, that really is all they got.

And repeating stupid lines like this is all you got, axecrement

This Marxist cumstain disaster currently in the White House is our "detour rather than our destiny".

I liked that.

I hope for my childrens' sake it is true.

It just doesn't have much "oomph" coming from Neo-Zion Ken-Doll.

I still like Perry.

Mitt Romney's hair reminds me of John Kerry's chin.

Too bad the GOP isn't running Donald Duck... -- #252 | Posted by northguy3

Would be great to see him get a substantial write-in vote.

Romney's the best thing that ever happened to ensure President Obama's reelection.

"Bain Bombs" and his 11 million flip flops will blow Romney's dreams of glory sky high

Amusing the pundits are declaring the primaries over and Romney the nominee after two small (forgive me) podunk states give him a small plurality.

Amusing also are those who have forgotten their love affairs with Cain, Perry, Bachmann so quickly and now line up solidly behind Mitt.

"That kind of shit happens when the entire planet goes into a severe recession....that your administration caused.

I heard one of the dumber talking heads this morning saying that Paul's voters will switch and vote for Mitt in the general election. I seriously doubt that someone vehemently opposed to more foreign wars will just switch and vote for some chickenhawk hack who will pursue a course of war just for political advantage in the Republican Party.

I seriously doubt that someone vehemently opposed to more foreign wars will just switch and vote for some chickenhawk hack who will pursue a course of war

#389 | Posted by danni at 2012-01-11 07:57 AM

That said, I would encourage them to stick it to the GOP and vote Johnson instead.

Do some research factfind.org..

Mornonism is a religious cult...Get a copy of the book of mormon's read it. They wear magic religious underwear.They talk to the invisible man. These people are religious freaks.

Just go read up on what they're all about..

What makes the LDS Church a cult?

Does that mean Catholocism, Protestantism, Buddhism, Islam are also cults?

They talk to the invisible man.

#391 | Posted by truthteller101 at 2012-01-11 08:51 AM

Unlike the Bible, the Book of Mormon isn't an outright forgery; We actually know who made up all that ludicrous bullshit.
What amazes me is how anyone older than seven can take that ridiculous nonsense seriously.

"Religion is all bunk."
~Edison

google it....Mormons (common term for "LDS") wear special "magic" underwear....look it up

I've asked you to define "cult" and tell me whether that means Catholics, etc., are members of cults.

You haven't, and either can't or won't.

Next time, come prepared.

Religions are man made businesses for profit nothing more!

That's not the question.

What's a "cult"?

I mean, you use the term so surely you can define it.

("And don't call me 'Shirley.'")

cult...Religious systems faddish devotion...
people who talk to make believe things...

"Romney Wins New Hampshire"

Obama will win in 2012.

I'm not overly concerned about it since Ron Paul has gotten the message out there. I hear other Republicans picking it up which means that this will heavily influence the Senate and House elections.

Ron Paul is done, except for finishing out the campaign. He won't be running for another term. I knew he wouldn't win and I think that's why the MSM didn't really take him seriously.

But, what a run, huh? For a revolutionary, he sure made a bigger splash than any other 3rd-partier in the past.

I just hope that the younger generation picks up his torch.

Religions are man made businesses for profit nothing more!

#397 | Posted by truthteller101

Seems that Truthteller got a serious screwing recently. Either that or he's a real loser and doesn't know it.

I'm just picking on you, truth, because you won't engage in any conversation much-less back up what you say.

I agree Ron Paul would have been great.

However,the republicans I don't trust with social security and medicare. Several of them want to means test social security after people like my self paid into it over 40 years. Its all about who you trust and I got to go with the Democrats..

#400 | Posted by Eddie

I'm not counting him out yet. No one expected him to get this far. But you are right about him getting his ideas out there. His campaign is not about him.

"...he sure made a bigger splash than any other 3rd-partier in the past."

Perot: 18.9% of the vote

#404 | Posted by Hans

And...

What was Perot's message?

*pause to think*

Right!

That's what I'm talking about.

Posted by eddie Flag: Zero sense of history:
#404 | Posted by Hans

I love it that Huntsman and Paul rose up to beat out Gingrich, Santorum, and Rick whatshisname.
+++++

"What was Perot's message? "

Ooh, ooh, I know: GRIDLOCK! Oh, wait, that was the admiral. Ummmm. : )

That was special Eddie.

Dammit. Left the comma out again.

Ooh, ooh, I know: GRIDLOCK! Oh, wait, that was the admiral. Ummmm. : )

#407 | Posted by pragmatist

Are you a Bush Republican?

just asken.

That was special Eddie.

#408 | Posted by YAV at 2012-01-11 09:55 AM

410--Okay, now I feel dumb. I don't get it. And I'm sad. I tried to play, and you didn't like my funny. Waaaaaaah.

All right, back to work. I need to ruin some kids' lives by giving them Fs. : )

#411 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

LoD, I mean.. LOL!!!

Really?

Again! Have you read your own posts?

410--Okay, now I feel dumb. I don't get it. And I'm sad. I tried to play, and you didn't like my funny. Waaaaaaah.
#412 | Posted by pragmatist

No, it's not that it wasn't funny, it just sounded like someone who supported Bush in the past. Or, a moderate Obama supporter who thinks that the status quo is worth keeping.

I haven't been following your posts so I don't know where you stand.

Obama wins NH too with 82% of the vote.....unopposed.