George W. Bush initiated "no child left behind" which led to all this teaching to the test crap. You're a mindless shill for FAUX NEWS.

So it is Bush's fault these teachers and administrators are cheating?

2--No, but nor is it Obama's, which appears to be your suggestion.

It's the fault of weak-willed assholes who work at schools and should have fought the system through proper protocols or just quit, rather than this bullshit.

If Letus can't blame it on Bush (and I submit that he can't), then you can't blame it on Obama.

This is a horrible situation; criticize those involved and look at the root causes, but pinning the blame on any single president is facile to the point of meaninglessness.

You ignorant ass. In all your stupidity you think Obama is at fault? Not everything is related to who is in the oval office.

>Not everything is related to who is in the oval office

holy fuck, even a dumbshit like the trolling jackass gets it right today.

a frosty hell must not be far behind...

Not everything is related to who is in the oval office.
#4 | Posted by jackass

It was from 2001 to the present if we listen to you and all the other libs.

Please don't consider for a second that Jackass is emblematic of or speaks for liberals.

But you have a point in that many liberals (and many teachers, some of whom aren't liberals) blame Bush entirely for NCLB. Well, I understand, given that he claimed credit, but it's wrong. The law was a bipartisan fuckup.

Yet Occupy 101 is now a college course and 3rd graders are singing about #occupy at school.

"Barack Hussein Obama mmm mmm mm"

Another tired piece of bullshit from KBM.

The song happened in one school, at least so far as anyone has shown.

And do you have a link for either of your first two assertions?

Just what are they teaching in school any more? Oh they don't teach its indoctrination. "The Wave" of Nazi youth.

10--So you keep saying. But I think you, like those who talk about the song all the time, are overreaching. Indoctrination seems to be a word one uses when what is being taught is something one doesn't like. I daresay I don't indoctrinate anyone, and probably no one in my HS does. Crispee will tell me I'm trying to use my singular experience and assign it to some widespread reality. I'm doing two things: 1. using one experience to prove that not all schools are doing this; 2. assuming that if my school is doing good work, there surely must be others (I don't think we're that special).

No matter how fucked up the public schools are, you can't get your money back. That's what defines a true monopoly.

Ray, I thought you were an economics expert. How in the word is that your definition of monopoly? (Um, private schools don't have money-back guarantees either.)

And do you have a link for either of your first two assertions?

#9 | POSTED BY PRAGMATIST

"A Waterbury, Conn., principal resigned earlier this month over an alleged cheating scheme on the Connecticut Mastery Test. A dozen teachers who were also caught up in the scandal lost 20 days of pay and have to perform 25 hours of free tutoring."

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Wow. Sounds like they must have a good union.

14--Nice try, Andrea.

1. It's not a course; it's credit. It's at one school (fair enough: he said "a college course").

2. It's at ONE school. (Fair enough: "3rd graders now sing" could be ONE class of 3rd graders.)

3. You're not KBM.

Here's the thing, though. I say "fair enough," but not really. KBM's clear implication is that this is a movement, especially when you pair it with the Mm mm mm reference. Y'all need to work harder at this shit.

And I might argue that there's some merit to receiving credit of some kind for checking out Occupy. Or a Tea Party rally.

15--Trollin' trollin' trollin' / Keep them righties trollin'... (I know, not Kanrei worthy.)

Not trollin' at all. The message is loud and clear: if you orchestrate a major cheating scandal, and you're caught, you'll be forced to give up less than three weeks' pay, and three days of community service. And if you're not caught, well, then you get great pay raises, forever.

Sounds like a pretty good cost-benefit equation there. And if it weren't for unions and job tenure, the calculation would be entirely different.

And who cares? Nobody pretends it's about the children anymore.

"And I might argue that there's some merit to receiving credit of some kind for checking out Occupy."

Right, Prag...there could be some "architecture" involved by studying the design and construction of a Poop Mountain such as the Occupy members built at Santa Cruz and the orgainzation of the tent cities such as at Zuccotti park.

"Or a Tea Party rally."

Great thinking again, Prag. Students could study "public sanitation" by understanding methods used by Tea Partiers when they left the rally venues cleaner than when they arrived. These could be great electives in pursuit of liberal arts degrees in Womens Studies, Social Science or some other useful and valuable discipline.

18--Blah blah. You just wanted to get me or some other union member to fight with you. For the record, I think said teachers should face deeper penalties. I also think we should take a serious look at why such cheating happened. Hint: It's not about the teachers looking good. Or not only.
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Jest, why bother talking to me when you don't care to engage in argument anyway? Really, studying activism is useless? Interesting. I guess you don't think the Tea Party OR the Occupy Movement are anything but time-wasters. This, from a guy who spends hours each day on a political blog-site. But hey, at least you didn't call me a "stealth progressive" this time. Maybe that's progress. Or maybe you forgot.

"Really, studying activism is useless?"

You crack me up...Studying activism for college credit? Is that what you wanna call it? How many credits do you think a visit to an "Occupy" event might "merit?" These "students" are probably the ones in the tents, smoking pot and building the Poop Mountains anyway." Even so, what of value can be taken away from attending one of these wonderful events when 95% of the students or the people there can't name the Speaker of the House, the Secretary of State or find Afghanistan on a fuckin' map. I bet you'd have been in favor of college credits for attending Woodstock too. All this bullshit is what is at the root of our failing system and you're just another part of it. "...merit to receiving some kind of credit for checking out Occupy..." MY ASS!

Your ass, exactly--you talk out it all the time.

I'm not designing the course, but if I did, it would be rigorous and valuable.

But you've turned into an awful troll, Jest. Why does this make you so angry?

"I'm not designing the course, but if I did, it would be rigorous and valuable."

Rigorous? Does that mean you would require multiple visits to more than ONE Obamaville?
Valuable? Well, I guess they might pick up some new slogans.

"But you've turned into an awful troll, Jest. Why does this make you so angry?"

A troll? Why, because I challenge some of your "education" bullshit? Because you see "merit" to receiving "credit of some kind" for checking out Occupy? Are you shitting me? Our students keep going down the tubes in international ratings and instead of pursuing valuable education, you and your other "progressive" teacher pals want them to "check out" Occupy for "some kind of credit?" Be sure to teach them some geography first so they'll be able to find the cities on the map. I'm angry that too many of our schools and teachers are into social engineering, political correctness and indoctrination instead of actually teaching valuable knowledge and skills. More than being "angry" though, I'm thoroughly disgusted. That you would see "merit" in in a college course for "checking out" Occupy for "some kind of credit" is a symptom of the fuckin' problem. Why have a full course when all they would have to do would be to watch some of the evening news to "check them out." They could even do that without getting fleas, crabs, stepping in shit...and the SMELL!