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Thursday, December 29, 2011

A senior Iranian commander said Thursday that Washington was "in no position" to give orders to Iran when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz, as tensions continued to rise between the countries over the key oil transit channel.

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I love their claim that they are "sonar proof"

They work great for Polish subs. Why Iran kept the screen doors installed I will never know.

Remember when the Iraqi army was touted as big and bad?
There's a lot of bluster in that neck of the woods.

One things for sure, there are Russian and Chinese officers aboard the Iranian subs and ships trying to watch us probe those iranian maneuvers. They want to see what we do, how we do it, and how our tech is deployed.

Silly Iranian pawns.

I love their claim that they are "sonar proof"

#1 | Posted by goatman

SSK Kilo Class (Type 877EKM), Russian Federation

Key Data

* Crew 52
* Length 72.6m
* Beam 9.9m
* Draught 6.5m
* Full Load Displacement Submerged 3,076t-3,950t
* Speed Surfaced 10kt-12kt
* Speed Submerged 17kt-25kt

The Russian Kilo Class submarine first entered into service in the early 1980s. It was designed by the Rubin Central Maritime Design Bureau, St Petersburg. Subsequent developments have led to the current production versions, the Type 877EKM and most recently, the Type 636. The submarines are constructed at the Admiralty Shipyard in St Petersburg.

24 Kilo Class submarines are in service in the Russian Navy (most of the older designs).

Kilo Class submarines have also been exported to Iran, China, India, Poland, Romania and Algeria. China has two Type 877EKMs, Iran has three Type 877EKM and India has ten Type 877EKM (Sindughosh Class). The Type 877EKM is designed for anti-submarine (ASW) and anti-surface ship (ASuW) warfare.

Submarine design

The submarine is a single-shaft vessel with a double hull. The bow planes are positioned close to the midship to improve the performance of the sonar. To reduce the submarine's acoustic signature, the flooding ports have been removed from the forebody. It also has a new gas-freeing system and the hull is covered with rubber anti-sonar protection tiles to reduce the risk of detection.

Type 877EKM has a displacement of 2,300t surfaced and 3,950t submerged. Maximum diving depth is 300m. Speed is 10kt when surfaced and 17kt when submerged. Range is 6,000 miles when snorting at 7kt and 400 miles when submerged at 3kt.

Propulsion

The Type 877EKM submarine is powered by diesel-electric propulsion with two 1,000kW diesel generators and one 5,500hp propulsion motor. These are produced by Elektrosila and Kolomensky Zavod of Russia. It also has 190hp motor for economic running and two 102hp standby propulsion systems. It has a seven-blade fixed-pitch propeller.

Source:

www.naval-technology.com

Looking at the pictures of the Iranian subs, all three have a cylinder mounted behind the sail. I did not see that in any pictures of the Kilo class I found out in the web. Anybody know what those cylinders are?

I was hoping to see the flying boats again. They aren't part of this operation?

On the Kilos or on that little Ghadir mini-sub? The cylinder on the Ghadir is actually in front of the sail. It's just storage, if I recall.

Anybody know what those cylinders are?

Frogmen gear.

These are midgets... "Ghadir" subs. These subs main role is sabotage.

Bigger pic from DAWN.

www.limepic.com

Inside tour of these mini-subs...

youtu.be

It also has a new gas-freeing system and the hull is covered with rubber anti-sonar protection tiles to reduce the risk of detection.

THis helps evade active sonar, but active sonar is pretty much a thing of the past anyway. They cannot evade passive sonar which picks up screw cavitation, but even if they are not moving, engine noises, generator noises, even purging of waste tannks is picked up and identified.

The Iranian "ghadir" mini-sub is an almost exact copy of the North Korean "Yono" mini-sub.

They use internal combustion engines, but it takes a lot of suicide bombers to keep them going.

Looked up the Yono class and the Ghadir.... these subs are lethal!

The Iranian version carries two "Hoot" super-cavitating torpedoes.... no escape from those.

The Nork version sunk a South Korean vessel with a bigger than normal torpedo.

Not as lethal as the smell of the middle eastern mutts that man them.

Iranians almost run over American sub in the Straits of Hormuz... (2010)

youtu.be

Fuck everything else... this is what I want to see!

Flying boats!

youtu.be

those subs look like nice little future cans of smashed asshole to me...

Tosser... LOL "Those subs are lethal"

Yea tosser.. thy are going to attack and sink the entire 5th fleet... What a complete ass hat...

The flying boats remind me of the flying monkeys from the wizard of oz....

They seem wonderfully useless from the footage...

It's funny. The Iranian Navy would have NO chance against the U.S. Navy. What idiots.

"It also has a new gas-freeing system and the hull is covered with rubber anti-sonar protection tiles to reduce the risk of detection." - Zot

These tiles only lower the energy of the reflection, 10 to 20 decibels, It certainly isn't sonar proof. This technology started in WWII, it is standard on all modern subs.

Brigadier General Hossein Salami is full of baloney...

So are you, bitch. Obama tried for an extension of our Iraqi adventure and failed. We both know you went back to the thread and saw as much, cowardly "colonel"...

I beat you like a drum as usual.

Lol. They're threatening the Stennis? That fucking thing is a Nimitz. It could crush Iran's entire armed forces singlehandedly and then eat Pakistan for dessert.

Lol. They're threatening the Stennis

I know... It's funny to watch.... Iran won't do shit... They know that we could sink their entire navy in a day... They might hit a couple of our ships but the price would be way high... Way way way high....

THis helps evade active sonar, but active sonar is pretty much a thing of the past anyway. They cannot evade passive sonar which picks up screw cavitation, but even if they are not moving, engine noises, generator noises, even purging of waste tannks is picked up and identified.

#11 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2011-12-29 01:17 PM | REPLY | FLAG

..and even with active pinging it's no more helpful than say, proper camouflage in a battle-zone. It helps a little bit always, and when the stars and the moon align just right can make you briefly invisible, but it's not really a game changer.

Plus the stuff has been standard issue on first world submarines since the 60's I think? Brave for Iran getting excited over stuff the rest of the world learned to thwart half a century ago. It's like watching a kid with his first BB gun. He briefly thinks he's going to go out and kill Black Bart, then reality sets in.

thy are going to attack and sink the entire 5th fleet...

I never said that.

I said they pack a punch. But them taking out an aircraft carrier???

Why would they even try? They will just block the waterway and sit back and fight you on land.

Blubbermouth/Nudist.... What a complete ass hat...

It could crush Iran's entire armed forces singlehandedly and then eat Pakistan for dessert.

Big Talk from the losers of Iraq and Afghanistan. LOL

Hay-seed... and others here... don't get it.

"Fight without fighting".... they are demonstrating their capabilities and making threats to reduce your options and gaining themselves street cred.

They will just block the waterway and sit back and fight you on land.

Sure they will....

Big Talk from the losers of Iraq and Afghanistan. LOL

#28 | Posted by Tosser

We lost? Damnit! Do we have to start speaking Arabic now? LOL

I wonder if China has any of their land based ballistic anti-ship missiles in Iran yet?

"They will just block the waterway and sit back and fight you on land."

If they should ever block the Straights, it's gonna piss off more than the U.S. I expect the Iranians will be doing more that just "sitting back" too.

We lost in Iraq? When did that happen? Last I checked... Saddam was dead, Al-qaeda in Iraq All Dead... Iraqis voted in their own government, and every arab nation in the world wants the same thing...

Guess we lost....

What a total BOY that tosser is.....

Tosser = True Hero Of The Stupid

Yes, you lost. And I know it stings.

The Iraqis kicked you out... sorry... the Iranians kicked you out before you could steal Iraq's oil.

Saddam was dead, Al-qaeda in Iraq

Saddam was just an excuse. And "al-Qaeda in Iraq" is a figment of the American imagination.

The target was the oil and secondary target was splitting the nation in half. Third target was to stay on forever and surround Iran.

None of the targets were achieved.

Blubeermouth = Retard of the Retort. No hope for improvement.

Iran has won in Iraq. And Iran has won in the Straits of Hormuz.

The US has been shown it's limits.

Do we have to start speaking Arabic now? LOL

You can't even speak English properly... how can you start on Arabic?

This is the latest insanity from Pakistan....

The Iraqis kicked you out... sorry... the Iranians kicked you out before you could steal Iraq's oil.

and

Saddam was just an excuse. And "al-Qaeda in Iraq" is a figment of the American imagination.

now he claims to know what the Pentagon plan was the whole time...

The target was the oil and secondary target was splitting the nation in half. Third target was to stay on forever and surround Iran.

and

Iran has won in Iraq. And Iran has won in the Straits of Hormuz.

This again is the typical response from the typically Fanatical American Hating Pakistani Prostitute Muslim... Frantically shooing reality away....

We lost in Iraq? When did that happen? Last I checked... Saddam was dead, Al-qaeda in Iraq All Dead... Iraqis voted in their own government,

saddam dead-check

Al queda in Iraq-created by American invasion and still blowing shit up. Uncheck.

Shia starting to erase sunnis, as predicted by GHB -check

Iraqis voted in own government-which couldn't take power until approved by Tehran. Funny, given the guys leading Iraq are all Iranian puppets, even Republican idol, george washington Chalabi.-checkmate

Yea tosser.. thy are going to attack and sink the entire 5th fleet...

They don't have to. If they even damage a US navy vessel, panic sets in and oil will go through the roof. Like the VC proved, you don't have to win any battles to win the war, just hang in there long enough.

Republicans tell us the nation will collapse unless we cut the deficit. How you gonna do that while escorting every saudi or BP tanker through Hormuz?

If the nation collapses it'll be great for me I'll finally get the things I want by looting stores.

If the nation collapses it'll be great for me I'll finally get the things I want by looting stores.

#42 | Posted by jackass at 2012-01-01 01:19 PM |

Yeah, and some property owner will shoot you. A real win win if you ask me.

More saber rattling?

*yawn*

The chickenhawk equivalent to jangling a set of keys in front of a baby.

Be Well.

Is that how you play with children, you sick demented freak?

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