The politicians should be required to wear condoms after the screwing

the public has ben getting.

Wait....they didn't before? That is fucked up! OK, maybe "fucked up" is the wrong choice of terms in a porn thread, but come on....OK, "come on" was probably bad as well...

Why just porn stars? Why not every single person? If we're going to play the "I know what's best for you" nanny-state game, going after just porn actors seems awfully unfair.

Wait....they didn't before? That is fucked up!

Quit pretending to be surprised...

#3 | Posted by adammm at 2011-12-28 03:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

Ok I'll take a stab at this. Much like the ban on smoking in bars (which is total horseshit) I imagine its a workers health issue. Less STD's less expense on John Q public.

Its a big pr move for The AIDS Healthcare Foundation. It sheds a more responsible light on the industry. "Safe sex is rock star porn sex!"
Puts end to all my money shots I guess.

Thats my two bits.

Don't know why it's anyone else's business. Adam is right. If the pornstars want to wear them, they can. If not, they shouldn't have to.

The result will be that the porn industry moves somewhere else.

The problem is that porn stars are forced to have unprotected sex to get work in the porn industry...

Wearing a condom isn't a choice; if you want to practice safe sex in the porn industry, you won't work...

If there was a choice then "the nanny state" argument might be valid...

There is a choice, capt. Don't become a porn star.

And there's a lot of companies that have their own requirements for condom use. You're probably just watching the nasty stuff.

That should stop a lot of unwanted babies.

Adammm...

Heterosexual porn almost NEVER utilizes condoms...

Only homosexual porn uses condoms...

This is a known fact...

So, I guess in your world heterosexual porn is "the nasty stuff"???

The porn industry won't book actors who demand safe sex be a part of the production...

And, if one wants to be a porn actor why shouldn't there be safety regulations to protect them from being exploited and put into extremely life threatening circumstances to get work???

You must be one of those people who oppose mine safety regulations...

The problem is that porn stars are forced to have unprotected sex to get work in the porn industry

LOL.

There is a choice, capt. Don't become a porn star.

#9 | Posted by adammm

It's just a job. Who are you to decide what job someone should or should not do.

We don't send astronauts into space without supplying PPE(Personal Protective Equipment). The Porn industry should also be required to supply PPE for its workers.

BS. A porn company isn't exactly a huge, high-barrier-to-entry market. Don't like the others, start your own company. That's freedom, that's capitalism.

And if gay porn all uses condoms without legislation, what's stopping the straight-sex industry?

The astronaut example is weak too. How many people do you think would agree to go to space without a suit? You don't need legislation and a fascist nanny-state- just people who are willing to say "no, I'm not going to agree to that."

When people take a job, they agree to the conditions.

That's no fun to watch. Nobody wants to see anyone struggling with the condom wrapper

BP--everyone knows you don't get to watch the fluffer girl in between takes either.

So no more blow jobs? How's that work in porn films?

And how in the heck are they going to have ads on tv for or against this stupid initiative?

Look --no raincoats! Look--here's a raincoat!!

FF for Adamm

Wonder how reagan would take this news back in his early acting years?

#21 | Posted by truthteller101 at 2011-12-28 05:53 PM | Reply | Flag: FF!!

Depends.
Bonobos or chimps?

I don't know what FF means. I assume bad, since nobody ever compliments on here.

FF== Funny Flag lol When you want to flag someone's post to the right of their name in the drop down box--you have a choice:

Funny NewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

You pick one and hit the F Lock key of your keyboard--it's a F inside a square.

They hit F5 on your keyboard.

You can see comments that get flagged by fellow DR's under the Flagged Commetns section up top on the left under menu.

Heterosexual porn almost NEVER utilizes condoms...
Only homosexual porn uses condoms...This is a known fact
#12 | Posted by CaptOfUranus

Well maybe known to you at least.

L.A. May Require Condoms in Porn???

Well...that blows it for me!

Thanks Murphy. I know the flags, just didn't realize FF referred to that and not some obscure texting abbreviation.

The astronaut example is weak too. How many people do you think would agree to go to space without a suit?

extreme example agreed

When people take a job, they agree to the conditions.

#16 | Posted by adammm

Guess you have never heard of OSHA...In the 25 years BEFORE OSHA 400,000 Americans were killed by work-related accidents and disease, and close to 50 million more suffered disabling injuries on the job.

According to OSHA Since 1970, more than 75,000 lives have been saved and millions of injuries and illnesses have been prevented through effective occupational safety and health management systems.

Since OSHA's establishment in 1971, workplace fatalities have been cut by 60 percent, and occupational injury and illness rates, by 40 percent. At the same time, U.S. employment has nearly doubled from 56 million workers at 3.5 million worksites to 105 million workers at nearly 6.9 million sites.

Heterosexual porn almost NEVER utilizes condoms...
Only homosexual porn uses condoms...This is a known fact
#12 | Posted by CaptOfUranus

Sorry guy but you are wrong.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy
Now what OSHA involved, They will have to wear safety glasses (could get their eye pooked out. Then the'll make sure they wear gloves protect shit from getting on them. They will put machine guards on the womnens mouths to ensure no dicks get cut off. Hard hats so she don't bump her head on the headboard.Ear plugs for the load screams. Respirators to eliminate the fish and ass smell.Knee pads to prevent carpet burs.The list goes on . Now who would watch porn ,dumb ass.

#25 Patron...

It is well known to anyone not living in a cave...

My point stands, and your retort is nothing more than a limp deflection...

"Even a blind pig finds an acorn some times."

"than a limp deflection"
#31 | Posted by CaptOfUranus
Thats how mine's would be if I watched gay porn , unlike yours probaly covered in cheeto dust while you watched!By the way ,do you wear a captain hat when you ride another mans ass?

I don't think ant hetero knows what happens in gay porn. Not knocking you, or calling you a mo, but why would a straight guy know what gay porn actors wear?
Also, I've seen hetero porn with rubbers in use and it is no good. Chicks need to wear the dudes hard work if you know what I mean.

By the way ,do you wear a captain hat when you ride another mans ass?

LOL

#15 Adamm...

So, we agree then that the heterosexual porn industry doesn't utilize condoms...

The homosexual porn industry does so due to increased education of that community...

Unfortunately for porn workers in the heterosexual porn industry, this isn't the case, because misinformation and under-education leads many to believe that HIV is a gay disease...

Thus many in that industry are unnecessarily exposed to STD's due to this. And, because the market is just as misinformed, many heterosexuals don't realize the importance of protection. Also, condoms take away from the fantasy of the production...

So, my comparison still stands: you must be one of those people who disagree with safety regulations for mining companies...

And, your reasoning is most likely based in some moral piousness, or because their safety would diminish your enjoyment of their products...

#15 Adamm...

So, we agree then that the heterosexual porn industry doesn't utilize condoms...

The homosexual porn industry does so due to increased education of that community...

Unfortunately for porn workers in the heterosexual porn industry, this isn't the case, because misinformation and under-education leads many to believe that HIV is a gay disease...

Thus many in that industry are unnecessarily exposed to STD's due to this. And, because the market is just as misinformed, many heterosexuals don't realize the importance of protection. Also, condoms take away from the fantasy of the production...

So, my comparison still stands: you must be one of those people who disagree with safety regulations for mining companies...

And, your reasoning is most likely based in some moral piousness, or because their safety would diminish your enjoyment of their products...

#33 Patron...

"Uranus" is a planet...

The rest of your post is nothing more than your secret fantasies and inference colliding...

And, you still have absolutely ZERO response to my post...

Keep your mischaracterizations and limp deflections coming; I can swat them down all night...

#29 MGST...

Well, it would seem, in LA (the porn capital of the planet) it is true...

Sorry that you are on the wrong side of the facts once again...

You're confidence is misplaced, Uranus. Just because they want a law requiring them doesn't mean they aren't worn. It seems like you're on the wrong side of the facts, no?

That'll be a great way to move the porn industry... and all it's money.. elsewhere.

#34 101...

Well, I don't really care what any random person on a message board thinks of me, it is hard to get too upset by anonymous rhetoric...

However, the way a heterosexual could become knowledgeable about gay porn is, exactly the same way you become knowledgeable on any subject that you are not personally exposed to: read about it...

"Uranus is a planet"
#38 | Posted by CaptOfUranusM
My anus isn't a planet.But I"m thinking your's may have got to be planet size , from all that man sex stretching it. You know the big banging theory.

"become knowledgeable on any subject that you are not personally exposed to: read about it..."
#42 | Posted by CaptOfUranus
Why would I even care to read about Homo's? If thats your thing all I can say is go for . I prefer sex the old fashion way , with women>

Cpt,
What would make a hetero read about gay porn? The answer is...nothing. Come on man, admit that your assertion is bs. No straight guy shows any interest whatsoever in gay porn.

I'm sorry but I don't buy the whole "straight porn isn't up to date on HIV awareness" argument. This bill was in response to a few notorious instances of positive actors in the industry this year.

They know full well the risks, they all get tested quite often, and that's the best you can do if you still agree to no-condom sex. Like others said- all this is going to do is push the porn industry out of LA. If California chases after them with state-wide nanny legislation, then Nevada will take them in.

The simple, easy, and practical solution is to leave people to make their own decisions and their own risk analyses. Everything is dangerous, that's just part of life.

#40 101...

No, I know that they aren't worn in heterosexual porn; it is common knowledge...

Once again, if you read about the subject you to will have this: common knowledge...

FTA: " Despite facing fines, most major porn companies continue to shoot without condoms, and some in the industry have argued that using the latex would take away from the fantasy appeal of their product."...

So, I suppose this goes to show that (once again) I am on the right side of the facts... where does that leave you again???

;~}

#46 Adamm...

So, why do you feel the actors in the porn industry aren't deserving of the same protections in their chosen field that the rest of society is protected by in theirs???

And, as the article stated, the legislation is in response to the industry being rife with STDs...

Do you even read the articles here, or do you just spout off all uninformed like... oh, wait.. nevermind...

"where does that leave you again???"
#47 | Posted by CaptOfUranus
Straight and with out hemaroids!

As usual, it leaves me on the winning side, again. "most majors" is not all.
Just because they want a law passed in LA doesn't mean they're aren't already companies requiring their use, which the link you provided proves.
Checkmate.

#43 Patron...

"URANUS"is a planet...

And, please stop fantasizing about my anus; it's getting creepy at this point...

#44 Patron ...mp

Nothing would, as is evident by your complete lack of knowledge regarding this subject...

#45 101...

I read this article and looked into it; color me inquisitive...

#49 Patron...

I am not interested in 101's anus either...

I don't think the rest of society is entitled to the same protections. Workers are entitled to the job they agree to work, and nothing else. If they don't like it, they can start their own company that does it right. And don't say that's impractical- it's exactly what happened for every single business in existence today.

And "rife", no. From what I've read, there's been two HIV+ cases in the past three years. They get tested every 30 days, have to prove negative status before shooting, and there's already a database of eligible actors.

#50 101...

Well, if that is what you want to think in the confines of your own mind that's fine...

Most majors don't utilize condoms...

What is it that you don't understand about that statement; the bulk of porn produced in LA doesn't utilize the use of condoms...

Check & mate (as usual)...

Nothing would, as is evident by your complete lack of knowledge regarding this subject...

#51 | Posted by CaptOfUranus
Gee I'm sorry I don't read gay porn articals , but just for you the next time I'll pick one up. Which one would you recomend, or better yet which one are you in? Shit maybe I'll even pick up a movie . whats the title of the one you stared in "Captain Of The Ass Monkeys".Or was the title My Anus Is Your Love Planet. Go away and keep your gay views to yourself.

Isn't workers' rights big on strikes? Why don't all the majors who don't use condoms go on strike, and work for companies that do use them? You know- engage in free enterprise, choice, that kind of thing?

Same thing as a famous actor saying give me my due, or I'll go to another studio who will.

"I read this article and looked into it; color me inquisitive"
Say no more it,s pretty evident what your about.

#54 Adamm...

HIV isn't the only STD... once again: inform yourself prior to spouting off on subjects that you are wholly ignorant of...

And, then as I said, you disagree with mine safety regulations???

#58 Patron...

Yes we do; I like to inform myself about a subject prior to commenting...

Unlike you obviously...

And, then as I said, you disagree with mine safety regulations
#59 | Posted by CaptOfUranus
The kind of mineing you do, ought to have a whole lot of regulations!

Yes, I disagree. Nobody is pointing a gun at workers to make them go down into the mine. A union could negotiate for their own inspections without OSHA. And sorry, I didn't realize you were Mr. Expert on porn matters.

From my ignorant, pathetic understanding, condoms don't exactly help protect against most other STDs. Unless you want to require them for oral sex too. In which case, you might as well just shut down the industry.

I make it a point to never argue about gay porn with a man who says he knows more about it then I do.

#56 Gaytron...

I don't act in, nor watch porn. But, from the sounds of it you sure wish I was...

And, if you have no interest in the subject why are you spouting off about it...

Thou doest protesteth too much...

#57 Adamm...

Why are you opposed to safety regulations in the porn industry???

Piousness or personal enjoyment???

I'm opposed to the nanny state, not safety. Laws just chase business away- it does very little to reform anything. It's an issue of organic, substantive change versus the false security government laws are used for.

Unless you have a nationwide law (which would still just push it into the black market) the AIDS organization would be doing better to educate consumers and help actors find better jobs if companies aren't willing to change. Not have LA Porn relocate to LV.

Look at hybrids- no government requirement to buy them, but still a massive shift in consumer sentiment.

Hell, let's go back to the gay porn industry- they recognized the risks and acknowledged the message BB was sending, and voluntarily changed. It's not some impossible task only GOV can accomplish.

#61 Patron...

What are you, twelve???

Your mother is going to be mad that you've spilled tacos and yoohoo on her computer...

She'll ground you again...

"Why are you opposed to safety regulations in the porn industry???"

Prolly because the best porn isn't actually considered 'porn' and because the laws to prohibit things actually attack freedom of speach.

Larry Flint is truly one of the greatest heroes of the USA - EVER!.

I make it a point to never argue about gay porn with a man who says he knows more about it then I do.

#63 | Posted by RexZeitgeist

That is sound policy.

"the best porn isn't actually considered 'porn' "

"Your mother is going to be mad that you've spilled tacos and yoohoo on her computer..."
Better than a spunked up board like yours. But your safe, you tell your mom to wear condoms on her fingers so she won't catch aids!

Hey Captain of the ass, was that your bathroom Ron Paul ran away from?

#73 Patron...

I don't live with my mom (unlike you) so I can "spunk up" my keyboard all I want...

#74 Patron...

No, it wasn't...

"I don't live with my mom "
She threw you ass out when you came out of the closet.

#69 Rietze...

All of the people who have contracted HIV that eventually became full blown AIDs and died from it will take comfort in that...

#76 Patron...

I have never been "in the closet"; I am a raging heterosexual. But, if I had been gay growing up, my family would have supported me and loved me none-the-less...

So, is the reason you are a closeted homosexual because you fear your mother will kick you out of her basement???

I feel sorry for you. Maybe this will help you in your plight:

"All of the people who have contracted HIV that eventually became full blown AIDs and died from it will take comfort in that..."
Quit crying about it , the cure already exist . It's called keeping dicks out of your ass! God the only thing worse than a homo is one that cries about the shit you brougt upon yourselves!And that goes for the bisexuals also, don't bring that shit to the women. And then the stupid drug users share needles used by gays.You all got what you deserve by your actions, and now you want some government help our regulation to stop it. You srewed up the blood banks selling your infected blood causing inocent people harm.Now thats where the government should step in and exterminate the ones passing of this blood. People like you make me sick,and keep all that shit in the closet and stick to sex with your own kind in private I don't like it paraded around, and forced on society like it's normal. Sometimes Iran does do things right!

"the cure already exist . It's called keeping dicks out of your ass!"

The majority of AIDS cases in the world are heterosexual, and contracted via heterosexual sex.

Yea broutht to us us by what stated

#69 Rietze...
All of the people who have contracted HIV that eventually became full blown AIDs and died from it will take comfort in that...
#77 | Posted by CaptOfUranus at 2011-12-29 12:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ass, its more like they'll be pissed to find out they were lied to and that HIV had nothing to do with them developing AIDS. Rather, the "anti-AIDS" drugs did it - along with poor nutrition, drug use, and psychological issues such as induced by homosexuality and especially reverse placebo-effects. Like tell a homosexual "you're gonna die when HIV becomes AIDS" in a way they actually believe - while re-enforced with immune-assaulting-drugs and social stigmatization, ... the prophesy becomes self fulfilling.

BTW, there's no fucking proof of HIV causing AIDS - as I demonstrated in that other thread. Instead there's lots of big-pharma manipulated media telling us what to believe so they profit. BIG-TIME - while you die.

The majority of AIDS cases in the world are heterosexual, and contracted via heterosexual sex.
#80 | Posted by Danforth at 2011-12-29 12:46 AM | Reply | Flag: WRONG

That assumes HIV but HIV isn't a cause. It's just a virus like millions of others that goes along for a ride when a person gets week. Instead...

AIDS is caused by
1. Malnutrition
2. drugs - especially sexual-drugs and anti-AIDS drugs
3. psychology
4. age
5. diseases
6. stress
7. belief/habbit... ok that's #3 again must be enough...

"That assumes HIV but HIV isn't a cause."

I've sat on health committees for years and years, since we called this "new cancer". Screw you and your uneducated bullshit.

#79 | Posted by patron at 2011-12-29 12:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

Sexual immorality sucks too - though that's more a personal/spiritual developmental problem. People who don't overcome that temptation lack the ability to form a meaningful "primary" relationship of marriage (even if its "gay marriage"). That in tern weekens a person... but again HIV is just bullshit that was designed to sell deadly drugs. The movie in that old thread does a good job calling bullshit on the mainstream medical HIV story.

The majority of AIDS cases in the world are heterosexual, and contracted via heterosexual sex.
#80 | Posted by Danforth at 2011-12-29 12:46 AM | Reply | Flag: WRONG

They are contracted by a weekend immune system, and that's mostly a result of poor nutrition. My reversed Type 2 diabetes was similar to that too - as in my old habbit diet of over 5000 calories featuring lots of beer - caused high BS. Fixing the obvious REVERSED the problem. Similarly, there are 1000s of people who have been HIV for 20+ years, avoided the HIV drugs and remain healthy. THat movie is but a few very vocal anectdotes. And yes even they were affected by thier Dr's diagnosis. I can relate to that too - over the Type 2 diabetes diagnosis with threat-letters and attitude with dissrespect and inuendo about my insurance getting revoked and so-on. BULLSHIT!

"The movie in that old thread does a good job calling bullshit on the mainstream medical HIV story."

The "movie in that old thread" was heavily edited and populated with know-nothings spouting the same debunked bullshit we've heard for years from people on the same intellectual level as Holocaust deniers.

"My reversed Type 2 diabetes was similar to that too"

Bullshit. Your reversed Type 2 Diabetes is NOTHING like HIV or AIDS. And stop thinking it's some damned miracle that shows modern medicine wrong: you got a bad doctor, and you did what will help diabetic conditions (and renal conditions, for that matter) in every case: YOU LOST WEIGHT. That's the sum total of your medical miracle: you lost weight, so your diabetic conditions decreased.

#88 sure. But HIV is bullshit too - you've got no proof - and pathology isn't fucking proof - its theory of how unmitigated by the human's immune system's abilities. NFW is that true. The cure is worse than the fake-diagnosed-disease.

So its bullshit saying that movie was debunked or it was incompetent people in that film. It wasn't - and its the MOST CREDIBLE STORY ON AIDS/HIV that yet exists for public consumption.

You believe the advertized Dr Pusher sold bullshit? Where's the fucking proof other than the advertizing you swallowed? It doesn't exist as Duesburg and his colleges demonstrated. Here's another from him inditing the establishment for killing 100s of 1000s of people via AZT:

#79 Patron...

God you are dumb as a stick in a turd, aren't you...

Rietze...

I agree that diet, sanitation and psychological modifications can cure a lot of ailments...

But given all the evidence that proves beyond a doubt that HIV does lead to AIDS, and given the simple fact that AIDS doesn't occur in humans without first having HIV, I would have to defer to the science in that one if I ever did contract HIV...

I guess Magic Johnson never really had HIV???

And, his AIDs hasn't been delayed by his intensive drug therapies...

~hardup fappermiester
I need pictures to remind me what that thang looks like.

"But HIV is bullshit too - you've got no proof"

Just years and years of experience on health committees and boards studying the literature, while dealing with denial idiots who will fall for anything.

I really just assumed they wore them. When I view porn, I tend to look at penis-free porn. Girl-girl is nice because it doesn't matter where your eyes drift.

When unsafe sex is banned, only outlaws will have unsafe sex.

Condoms during intercourse only but not during oral?

Yeah, that's safe. Grandstanding by the AHF and the puritanical right. Throw another dixie cup of water on that prairie fire why don't you?

well ...uh...er...but...uh....NOT THAT I would know MIND YOU...but ...er...well....they already use them in many films..
AT LEAST THATS what I heard...

What ever happened to the good old days of a frat house full of drunk guys hollering "Splooey in her face!" at a grainy 8mm? Slippery slope, it's how we used to turn them queer. The world is just turning to shit.

I have not read the thread, don't intend to.

Imo, this will simply relocate the part of industry impacted outside of L.A. jurisdiction. This division of labor might be prelude to another "processing" tax..

Reitze...

But given all the evidence that proves beyond a doubt that HIV does lead to AIDS, and given the simple fact that AIDS doesn't occur in humans without first having HIV, I would have to defer to the science in that one if I ever did contract HIV...

I guess Magic Johnson never really had HIV???

And, his AIDs hasn't been delayed by his intensive drug therapies...

#93 | Posted by CaptOfUranus at 2011-12-29 05:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Bullshit. 1000s of Drs and others with vested interest in the theory doesn't result in any proof unless it were actually studied, documented, and published. Instead the public info is overwealmed political bullshit just like your statement. Sadly it seems to take people like Duesberg and yes even me to call bullshit on that crap.

Like NFW can you produce proof when you can't even determine if a person actually has such a virus. Anti-bodies don't prove that either - they're only hints and based on those, AZT is killing 1000s of people every year while Dr Pusher and PHarma profit.

Most of AIDS is MALNUTRITION - and that includes such people as starving Africans as well as people who don't eat right while consuming drugs, etc. BTW, the 20 year incubation period also DISS-PROVES any of the pathology based theories too.

I guess Magic Johnson never really had HIV???
And, his AIDs hasn't been delayed by his intensive drug therapies...
#93 | Posted by CaptOfUranus at 2011-12-29 05:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Actually NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE IF MAJIC HAS HIV. The HIV tests don't prove that either. The cost of isolating a virus from a person isn't done.

But Magic Johnson has taken the AIDS drugs in small doses - and those DO CAUSE AIDS. So far Magic doesn't have AIDS and prolly never will simply because there's more profit in claiming a victory here and there rather than risking he check into Deusbergs research.

And BTW, I remember Magic being designated a governmetal AIDS leader - and that he turned down the appointment a few months later. The body language and look on his face were to me a tell - that he was not about to go along with that administrations lie. I wondered what he knew that we all didn't. I learned about Duesberg in the late 1990s and it all made sense.

Regardless if Majic has HIV - the chance of him getting AIDS is only INCREASED by AIDS DRUGS. Like the comment on that link I just posted above:

Eirelady Collapse
It's a running joke here where I live in West Hollywood, California, otherwise
known as boys town............the only people that die from aids are the ones
who get medical treatment.

"I really just assumed they wore them. When I view porn, I tend to look at penis-free porn. Girl-girl is nice because it doesn't matter where your eyes drift."

uummm, whatever...

#104 | POSTED BY REITZE AT 2011-12-29 05:16 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You're an idiot as well as absolutely insane. Do you think the HIV antibodies in Magic Johnson's system are there by accident? We test by antibodies because that's EASIER than sampling blood at random and looking for those ugly little cells. Yes, they have isolated the HIV virus outside of the body. You can even find images of what the fucking thing looks like online.

HIV antibodies do not occur unless one has HIV. Do you get it? You don't get elevated levels of antibodies running around your system trying to fight a virus you don't have. That's not how the immune system works. You CAN have a disease kicking your ass and not have the antigen flowing around (resulting in a false negative if the wrong kind of test is used), but the vice versa is utterly impossible.

Furthermore, there has never IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF MEDICINE been a single case of AIDs without HIV. Not. Even. One. There are cases of people who's immune systems believe they have gone into remission for short periods of time and an antigen-only or stain test would show them as not having HIV, but when you draw their blood and use a microscope you still see those ugly little things. See that's how HIV kills in the first place, it fucks up your immune system, causes it to not even realize you are sick. Furthermore, persons who are HIV false-negative by antigen tests or blood stains alone still spread the virus. You do not get AIDs without having HIV. You do not get HIV without eventually moving onto AIDs. This isn't even debatable, medical science has proved this again and again.

Oh, and by the way? A Polymerase Chain Reaction test never gives a false negative. It's simply way cheaper and easier to get two antigen tests done within a 6 month period, which is longer than the false negative stage has ever been known to run. If a PCR says you have HIV, you're going to get AIDs. If a PCR says you don't have HIV, you're not going to get AIDs. This has been true 100% of the times it was used.

Furthermore, there has never IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF MEDICINE been a single case of AIDs without HIV. Not. Even. One.
#106 | Posted by soheifox at 2011-12-29 06:51 PM | Reply | Flag: Bullshit.

AIDS is defficient imune system. Even cancer patients on chemo get that. Like going to see my girlfriend who died of cancer in 97 I had to wear a mask cause her chemo compromised her immune system. IDK if that chemo helped her either. She went from a cold to dead in 3 months.

So if you really care about the truth rather than your wallet, watch that movie or admit you've got vested interests in killing people with AZT and are trying to promote laws to criminalize yet more people. Like if I wanted to sell pics of me with my wife - condom required? That's criminal asshole-politician manipulation. IMHO, just like "Atlas Shrugged" and for good reason too.

You can have antibodies for any harmless virus you want. But if you are doing AZT you'll get AIDS more certainly than HIV. Correlations? sure but where's the public double-blind studies proving AZT saved anyone? It doesn't exist.

BTW your link is political and not scientific proof. Just more bullshit. As a SCIENTIST, Duesburg kicks your ass and that website with all its money too.

Even if you have all the kings horses and all the kings men you can't get humpty back together again once the truth becomes known. Thanks to the internet, time is up - and yea, I do expect more SOPA bullshit shutting down the truth-channels.

pathmicro.med.sc.edu

#106 | Posted by soheifox at 2011-12-29 06:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

For a college to pass that off as proof is stupid. OFMG that's assinine to claim that as "proof" when patients are asking for the evidence that HIV does anything or that AZT is safe. Sure call me an idiot - I'd call anyone calling me that a fucking killer - or just dumb enough to go along with killers killing.

It reminds me of the common cop-show-theme of some Newt-like genius getting some dummy to do his crimes. Pathological killers.

You have to be a joke. Nobody can be as simultaneously narcissistic, stupid, and gullible as you. You wouldn't have made it alive through your 20's if you were really this idiotic.

Rietze...

I respect your suspicion of everything anyone says... really I do. I have that same kind of cynicism inherent in my psyche. However, there are a few things that actually are kind of proven...

So, though I respect your opinion, and I admire your cynicism, I have to disagree with you here...

There has never been a case of AIDs that wasn't preempted by the HIV virus...

If you have a link to something other than your own personal experience, I would love to read it...

No offense, no deriding, just a disagreement...

#24 | Posted by MURPHY

6 martinis with dinner?

I suggest a simpler test: Reitze - go catch you some HIV. Then, don't take any pills. We'll use you as the control, against someone taking their meds.

Sorry, I don't agree with conventional wisdom on a lot - I follow a high fat, low carb paleo diet. I go as far into conspiracy theory as believing there may be some strong anti-cancer activity in marijuana that we are not told about because the moneyed interests don't want us to know. But HIV was a death sentence 20 years ago. Today, it's a manageable condition. Particularly if you have the money, like M. Johnson. Because they take their damn meds.

Sohe, my 20s were quite difficult. I had very few friends and my school teachers hated me for getting so many As in college while not fitting their mold. I had a serious lack of social skills.

narcissistic? - nah I spend too much time/energy/interest in altruistic things. I may sound "I focused" but thats communications skills and audience factors that I might not notice, etc.

stupid? - nah I've had to hide having an IQ over 160 for most of my life. The past couple years or I've been more open about it. I get shit for it too - like yours! So like the feeding boobs on display with spit - "get over it". I got a brain. And I know that doesn't buy much on the social front. Newt comes to mind on that - like his brain seems missapplied to doing things for power so I tend not to 'trust' him. I'm not in the power acquisition mode - but I do experience in engineering how identifying and proving changes to make the products better - is often met with fear of change - a sort of non-trust.

gullible - yea that used to be a serious challenge for me till I was in my 30s and did the reading quest motivated by a few "paranormal experiences" (only a few experiences in mid 1990s). The 500 books plus the bible made big contributions to my social skills. Prior to that I was more like one of those "normally functioning" Asbergers people (mild in my case - not "diagnosed" but best describes my slowed social development that the books fixed imho). The Celestine Prophesy was the most helpful of all in gaining perspective and self-awareness necessary to improve.

And no I don't claim I'm perfect or fixed - my social skills are IMHO good - though I lack affinity for things like prudishness, use slang that pisses off curch-mided and so-on.

So what's it got to do with condoms in porn? Well isn't it obvious there'd be a new black market for condomless porn? Don't we get it as a culture yet about prohibition? Well we did for a bit in the 1930s but obviously we don't these days. So my voice is using some historical evidence and POV to contribute to the notion and that...

PROHIBITION IS STUPID - IN ANY FORM (drugs, porn, nudity, etc)

There has never been a case of AIDs that wasn't preempted by the HIV virus...
No offense, no deriding, just a disagreement...
#111 | Posted by CaptOfUranus at 2011-12-30 01:43 AM | Reply | Flag: WRONG

When my girlfriend died of cancer in 1997 I had to wear a face-mask to see her the last time. The chemo had weekened her immune system. It did the same to my bro who passed in 2007.

Plus, I've seen on my body how poor nutrition/eating habits where I got a bit of rash and eventualy learned I had Type 2 diabetes - which I reversed with diet only (in spite of the Drs and everyone saying that was impossible - take drugs or die). Thank GOD I refused those drugs.

If you have a link to something other than your own personal experience, I would love to read it...
#111 | Posted by CaptOfUranus at 2011-12-30 01:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

Scroll up - I posted several links to "alternative research" that's producing way better results than the FDA approved deadly drugs... IMHO its pretty solid stuff.

BTW, truth is more profound than $Bs in advertizing and lobbying (often efforts to "hide the truth"). Be well!

That'll be a great way to move the porn industry... and all it's money.. elsewhere.

#41 | Posted by soheifox

What money? Anyone here still pay for porn?

The majority of AIDS cases in the world are heterosexual, and contracted via heterosexual sex.

#80 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2011-12-29 12:46 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

true, most in sub-Saharan Africa where most heterosexual encounters involve huge open festering puss-filled sores.

"sub-Saharan Africa where most heterosexual encounters involve huge open festering puss-filled sores."

Facts must be easier to come by when you get to make them up on the spot.

#80 your post was true, but misleading. your inference is that heterosexual activity carries just as much risk as homosexual activity, which is generally untrue when you look at statistics from the united states. you have to use a worldwide number to make your statement true, but your omission regarding context makes you a simple fear monger.

"your inference is that heterosexual activity carries just as much risk as homosexual activity, "

No, that was your inference. I merely stated a fact.

"which is generally untrue when you look at statistics from the united states"

Who said we were just looking at the United States?

"you have to use a worldwide number to make your statement true"

You have to pretend I claimed something I didn't to make my statement false.

"your omission regarding context makes you a simple fear monger."

Your imposition of new parameters AFTER I posted makes you a simple idiot. Everything I posted was true.