"For example, Pakistan's nuclear weapons are a Pathan creation. LOL"
Nope. Still a product of Los Alamos. Which fed directly into the creation of the first Soviet Atomic weapon, which almost certainly led to the creation of a Chinese weapon, which definitely served in construction of a Pakistani weapon.
Don't get me wrong, it's not an ethnic thing, it's just that there does not exist within the confines of Pashtun culture the impetus to broaden global innovation. Right now, Paul Allen and Dick Rutan are looking to commercialize space, which may be the next bog thing. They probably have a Pakistani or two working for them. But that sort of movement would never, could never form inside Pakistan given the current conditions.
"You can't subjugate them. The British tried and gave it their all.... but they could never beat the Pathans or the Zulu. These two races are invulnerable."
Now it's my turn to LOL. The Japanese were one of the fiercest cultures ever to emerge on the planet. The possessed both the concrete will that Kipling credited the Pashtun with having, as well as a technological capacity that rivaled, and for a while even surpassed that of the west. It took their culture being faced with total annihilation for them to surrender. You can't really say that anyone is invulnerable until they have been faced with that threat. I suspect that the Pashtun would collapse at least as quickly as the Japanese if they were threaten with the pointy end of a nuclear weapon.
"So I would say they are more capable than the Japanese. LOL"
If it makes you feel any better, I am quite certain that the US would capitulate if threatened with even one nuclear weapon in one city. In fact, they might capitulate to an enemy even if the enemy was threatening to kill his own people with a nuclear weapon. We americans have little stomach for bloodshed, as a general rule. Unfortunately.
"By Patron's logic, if we simply had dropped numerous nuclear bombs on Iraq there would have been less prolonged suffering. lol
This is why elected officials who are answerable to the public get to make policy and not anonymous hacks on a website."
Odd you should bring it up. I was at a conference a few months back, and one of the speakers was a man who had created the fuzing mechanisms for the early nuclear weapons. He was once asked by a Japanese camera crew whether he regretted his work. He told them no. Without the nuclear bombs, the US would have invaded Japan as part of an operation to be labelled DOWNFALL. It was to have created between 1.7 and 4 million US casualties. Japanese was forecast to incur five to ten million casualties, as at the civilians were being trained to fight to the death. During the invasion of the Mariana islands (where I am right now), Japanese civilians chose suicide over surrender; jumping en masse from sea cliffs. There is no reason to think it would have been different on the home islands.
When you destroy your enemy's will to fight, the bloodshed will end soon after. Of that there is no doubt.
"Had we dropped nuclear weapons on N. Korea, China would have dropped weapons on S. Korea. There would be no more Koreans. ...On second thought Patron, maybe you are correct. With everyone DEAD there would be no prolonged suffering."
Uh, where would China have gotten the bomb? Their first detonation of a nuke wasn't until 1964. Even Russian barely had a viable weapon.
