If average Pakistanis share the same uber militarist mentality of Tosser, then of course any civilian lead government will always be in danger in that country. The funny thing is, fairly educated Pakistanis such as Tosser seem to think of themselves as conservatives or (in American lingo) Republicanesque. The reality is, they are simply anti-democratic militarists who are not happy or comfortable unless the armed forces are de facto in charge. (I don't want to use the word "fascist" because I am not certain that is accurate. I think the correct is "militarist" or oligarchist.)

The funny thing is, fairly educated Pakistanis such as Tosser seem to think of themselves as conservatives or (in American lingo) Republicanesque.

Nothing funny about it all.

I mean, if I were American I most definitely would be Republican.

In Pakistan, I'm a conservative.

And thankfully, there are far FAR more of me here than there are of the noodle variety.

Tosser, you avoid the point I have made. So long as average fairly educated Pakistanis share your mindset, civilian presidents and prime ministers will always be at risk. Either as a society Pakistanis believe in civilian rule, or they don't.

then of course any civilian lead government will always be in danger in that country.

The people have done nothing to this Govt.

They are going to Hell because of their own stupidity.

Also.... the President might be thrown out.... so?

The Prime Minister will keep the Govt going. That is his job anyway.

The President is like a janitor. The Prime Minister has the real power. WTF is he getting all excited about?

Tosser, you avoid the point I have made. So long as average fairly ed....

I did not avoid. I can you a better answer.

This Govt has dug it's own grave, getting caught with it's pants around it's ankles, humping the pooch.

The people of Pakistan and what they might or might not believe, is besides the point at this moment.

I can you = I gave you

Tosser, all bullshit aside, how is it that no civilian elected Pakistani government has been able to fulfill it's term in office without being squeezed out by the military? The answer is obvious (imo). The typical fairly educated Pakistani such as yourself neither trusts nor likes civilians being in charge. It must be part of the Pakistani national psyche. I'm not saying it is a good or a bad thing. It just means that Civilian leaders in Pakistan will always live under the threat of coup or bogus charges of corruption.

The answer is obvious (imo).

No, it's not.

You will have to go into more detail than is practical to discuss on this website.

Meaning... long story. Not short story, like you are making it out to be.

such as yourself neither trusts nor likes civilians being in charge.

Certainly true in my case and in the case of this Govt.

or bogus charges of corruption.

Do yourself a favor and go to any Pakistani website and ask if the charges of corruption are bogus.

Get ready to have your head chewed off. LOL

Please read this... you will understand more, maybe.

And since you are so interested in Pakistan's politics, here is some more reading (from the Pak NYT):

It is refreshing to get the impression from the Tribune article that the military at least wants to preserve the appearance of there being civilian control of Pakistan. I would like to continue to believe Pakistan will keep evolving away from the typical tendencies of post-colonial areas, as the country seems to exhibit to a large degree as its overall intention, and that the military's influence will decrease.

Why does Moder8 keep calling Tosser the typically educated Pakistani?

......the typically educated Pakistani?

#13 | Posted by Tedly

Seems like an oxymoron to me.

Or an insult.