Boehner has lost control - I wouldn't be surpised to see a coup from the middle soon.

"From WSJ: The GOP leaders have somehow managed the remarkable feat of being blamed for opposing a one-year extension of a tax holiday that they are surely going to pass. This is no easy double play."

Odd... I could have sworn the House passed a one year extention for the payroll tax last week. But hey, I am not the brilliant media who gets paid to report stuff...

Well I for one agree with Gaff master extrodinare smokin JoE Biden when he said TAXES ARE PATRIOTIC and fun too,,,

Here's the difference:

The House bill (which was passed on party lines) was weighed down with provisions that Repbulicans knew would not pass the Senate. The Senate bill was passed with overwhelming bipartisan support with the intention of putting together a bipartisan long term deal after the recess. The Senate Republicans and Dems know it will take time to come up with an agreement on how to pay for it so they took the logical and rational route. Boehner got stepped on by the Tea Party and now is bailing water.

WASHINGTON â€" Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do

And you know it's bad with the WSJ Editorial board is ripping into Republican leadership.

Posted by taxman at 2011-12-21 02:01 PM

WTF should the House adhere to the useless incompetent Senate? Seems like anyone with a brain recognzes the Senate and WH are clueless, and couldn't even pass a fucking budget...

#5 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2011-12-21 02:02 PM | Reply | Flag

If that's the way the Republicans feel then why don't they just come out and repeat what Biden said? They won't because it would be political suicide.

At this point the House Repubs are screwed no matter what they do.

#7 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2011-12-21 02:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Your responses are so partisan it's actually quite funny.

And you know it's bad with the WSJ Editorial board is ripping into Republican leadership.

#6 | Posted by taxman

Isn't it oxymoronic to use the words "Republican" and "leadership" in the same sentence?

From the backpage on the same topic:

Also, Boner calls for a conference committee (as outlined in the Constitution) to hash out the differences between the 2 bills and the Senate flees town.

Amazing. And yet somehow the Republicans are losing the PR-battle on this. The GOP leadership is horribly inept when it comes to communicating with the public, defending their policies, challenging Obama's deceptions/lies, etc.

Of course, the MSM carries the Dem's water, but the GOP should know this and work harder to overcome it.

Posted by JeffJ at 2011-12-21 01:54 PM | Reply

As for this senate bill....

It's a beaurocratic nightmare. Businesses pay their SS/Medicare taxes on a quarterly basis and use computer programming to do it. The compliance costs associated with a 2-month extension are astounding. Of course most politicians, especially Democrats, are so ignorant of the private sector and economics that they don't know this kind of basic shit.

Posted by JeffJ at 2011-12-21 01:49 PM | Reply

"Boehner has lost control"

Boehner never had control.

Why do you think he cries so damn much?

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2011-12-21 02:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not necessarily. Mitch McConnel does a good job in the Senate and I think Paul Ryan has good congressional leadership qualities. I think Boehner has allowed himself to be railroad Cantor and the other hard wingers and has lost any sense of authority he once had.

At this point the House Repubs are screwed no matter what they do.

#8 | Posted by taxman at 2011-12-21 02:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Republicans will get blamed for this no doubt, the bigger picture however is all about Obummers reelection this is just like the deferred decision on building the oil pipeline,,,

The compliance costs associated with a 2-month extension are astounding.

It's as simple as changing a percentage in the software, not really that complicated - trust me we handle payroll for companies during ownership transitions, there is nothing complicated about it unless you are a moron.

#14 | Posted by ATaxpayer at 2011-12-21 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

That pipeline is a done deal in my opinion (especially now that we may attack Iran or at least put an embargo on Iranian oil), the Dems should just include it in the year long extension of the payroll and get it over with.

Charles Krauthammer:

'The Republicans Have Been Entirely Outplayed' On Payroll Tax Cut

"Obama set up a trap, it's a game," Krauthammer observed. "He knows he doesn't have any effect on the economy. It's a way to trap Republicans and he has succeeded!"

What Republicans should have done is swallow the bill and accept it in a month or two. Or what Boehner ought to do is call the House back and propose the bill that the Senate passed with one change. You change the date of expiration of the tax cut from 29 of February to December 31. Every other comma, noun and adjective, as is, and pass it and then dare the Senate and president not to accept.

#13 | Posted by taxman

I agree with all that except the part about Bitch Bcconnell doing a good job in the senate.

He is one of the worst offenders of truth, justice and the american way. He is single-mindedly obssessed with smearing shit on obama but he is getting more on himself than obama.

he is a teabagger asshole and he should be executed for his treasonous activities.

After re-reading my posts I need to stop blogging via my smartphone until I get glasses. Sorry for all the typos.

#7 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2011-12-21 02:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Your responses are so partisan it's actually quite funny.
#9 | Posted by taxman at 2011-12-21 02:07 PM

Meaning your ignorance trumps my partisanship? You probably didn't know the House passed legislation last week extending the 2% payroll cut? Or should one be like you and believe a 2 month extention will creates thousands of jobs? Which are you willing to admit? Pelosi or Reid is who YOU echo?

he is a teabagger asshole and he should be executed for his treasonous activities. #18 | Posted by Lipzoidial

That's very fascist of you. I have come to expect that sort of thinking or lack there of from you and the rest of the DR left.

#17 | Posted by paneocon at 2011-12-21 02:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

The problem is no matter how temporary Congress says an incentive will be, once it's time to roll that incentive back the beneficiaries of said incentive turn up the heat. Moreover, legislators fear that allowing an incentive to sunset makes them look like tax raisers. This has happened for generations.

That pipeline is a done deal in my opinion (especially now that we may attack Iran or at least put an embargo on Iranian oil), the Dems should just include it in the year long extension of the payroll and get it over with.
#16 | Posted by taxman at 2011-12-21 02:20 PM |

In other words, pass the House legislation which Reid gutted? Glad you saw your incredible stupidity and learned something in the last 15 minutes...

McConnel is the furthest thing from a "Tea Bagger".

#22 | Posted by taxman

The taxes involved in a home closing statement are a form of financial rape. And we wonder why the housing market has left us.

So, Crispee are you saying that the House bill only had provisions regarding the payroll tax and the Keystone pipeline?

So, Crispee are you saying that the House bill only had provisions regarding the payroll tax and the Keystone pipeline?

Posted by taxman at 2011-12-21 02:36 PM

You tell me...

Dec. 16 The House passed a $1 trillion spending package to avert a government shutdown, a day after Congressional negotiators reached an agreement on the omnibus measure. But Speaker John A. Boehner said that House Republicans would insist on including a provision to speed a decision on the Keystone XL oil pipeline in any legislation that extended the payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits, despite vows by Senate Democrats to block it and by President Obama to veto any bill containing the measure.

I'm not doing your research for you - have you read the bill? I have.

I'm not doing your research for you - have you read the bill? I have.

#28 | Posted by taxman at 2011-12-21 02:39 PM |

You did? Then why are you playing stupid and pretending the Senate isn't the one who changed the legislation to 2 months?

#29 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2011-12-21 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

You are completely lost. What I said is the House passed a bill laden with provisions other than the payroll extion - provisions Republicans knew would not pass the Senate. The Senate passed, with bipartisan support, a stop-gap measure aimed at extending the benefits for a period of time so that Republicans and Democrates would have time to come up with a means of paying for the bill. I futher noted, that as a means of bipartisanship (i.e., give and take), Democrats should be willing to concede the Keystone pipeline issue (which was only one of the additional provisions in the House bill).

"You are completely lost."

Im lost? Who just posted the Senate should have made the 2% payroll tax a one year extention less than 25 minutes ago? Yet is still trying to blame the House for not passing a bill making it 2 months?

Crispee your reading comprehension levels are subpar.

#17

I disagree. Their Pavlovian certainty of saying NO to anything Obama advocates with no thought to exactly what they are really doing.

When the smoke clears, their position become clear and they are already on the hook for their initial auto-response.

This is a self-inflicted wound.

Lithpy the OCD hack. Goatblob would be proud.

- subpar

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"Crispee your reading comprehension levels are subpar."

It is? Who posted this?

"That pipeline is a done deal in my opinion (especially now that we may attack Iran or at least put an embargo on Iranian oil), the Dems should just include it in the year long extension of the payroll and get it over with."

WASHINGTON â€" Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do

#5 | POSTED BY ATAXPAYER

Some people actually ask what they can do for their country rather than what they can steal from it.

reelection this is just like the deferred decision on building the oil pipeline,,,

You mean the pipeline that the Republicans in Nebraska opposed? The one that is going to mean higher gas prices for America and only 1/10th of the jobs the Goppers are raving about?

That pipeline?

Boner got boned by the baggers. He really has no option other than resign the Speakership now. He has no leadership ability or credibility.

"That pipeline is a done deal in my opinion (especially now that we may attack Iran or at least put an embargo on Iranian oil), the Dems should just include it in the year long extension of the payroll and get it over with."

That part in bold is in reference to the second bill that would be passed after the short-term extension. Let me try this again and dumb it down for you: pass the short term bill, get back to the drawing board on coming up with ways to extend it for the full year (the "extension bill"), one way of showinig bipartisanship is for Dems to include the Keystone provision in the year long extension bill.

Northguy,

Repubs in Nebraska hate it because they fear what it will do to ethanol.

I think Boehner has allowed himself to be railroad Cantor and the other hard wingers and has lost any sense of authority he once had.

Anyone that cries that much has no business in politics.

at least put an embargo on Iranian oil

Japan, Europe or China won't join the embargo, so what does it matter?

That part in bold is in reference to the second bill that would be passed after the short-term extension. Let me try this again and dumb it down for you: pass the short term bill, get back to the drawing board on coming up with ways to extend it for the full year (the "extension bill"), one way of showinig bipartisanship is for Dems to include the Keystone provision in the year long extension bill.
#39 | Posted by taxman at 2011-12-21 03:11 PM

Dumb it down for me? Who is the fool ignoring they had a year to come up with something, and is stupid enough to think a 2 month extention will provide a solution in February 2012? The House passed the 1 year extention and cut shit to pay for it, along with another federal U/E benefit package to appease the whining dems. Should that only be 2 months as well?

Anyone thinking the House should adhere to anything coming out of this incompetent and useless Senate is as foolish as the moron in chief...

#42 | Posted by northguy3 at 2011-12-21 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

The House and Senate already passed legislation which will penalize any financial institution found to be conducting business with Iran's central bank, its conduit for its oil exports.

The House and Senate already passed legislation which will penalize any financial institution found to be conducting business with Iran's central bank, its conduit for its oil exports.

And that scares China how? Half of Europe will be fucked if they embargo Iranian oil, as will SK, India and Japan. There isn't enough reserve capacity to cover the shortage an embargo will create. Expect more pistachio embargos, or maybe rugs.

Repubs in Nebraska hate it because they fear what it will do to ethanol.

Nope-they approved a new route that didn't put the Sandhills aquifer in danger.

Wait until Beverly finds out the pipline runs right thru his front yard there in Kansas.

He may even have to put the wheels back on the house and move again.

#45 | Posted by northguy3

You are correct (man does it pain me to admit that :-).

Iran is too much of a player due to their output. An outright embargo would devestate the global oil market and this crap that the US won't do business with Iran is just that - crap. It looks good as far as policy goes but reality is that the oil market is global and inter-dependent. As long as Iran can sell its oil elsewhere, the fact that the US won't do business with them doesn't hurt them at all.

Wait until Beverly finds out the pipline runs right thru his front yard there in Kansas.

it will run about 70 miles away

And will it be using imminent domain to take over private property?

I think it will.

Keystone XL Pipeline Relies on Eminent Domain for Success

The Keystone XL pipeline is a prime example of the Federal Government taking care of corporations rather than the rights of its private citizens. We need to end the practice of eminent domain for corporate gain. It not only is a violation of our rights to the private property that we own, but more so, it further breeds the collusion between the corporation and state. If not for eminent domain, the Keystone XL project would only be a pipe dream.

Here's the question:

If it came down to extending the payroll tax, would you be ok with the President signing off on the Keystone Pipeline?

Funny how rwingers are against the ebil gubmint (v private citizens)..... oops! until they make corporations Super Citizens and give them the benefit of any doubt.

I'll go along with you on this one cork. And to make it worse, it's a foreign corporation.

Somebody take a picture...

If it came down to extending the payroll tax, would you be ok with the President signing off on the Keystone Pipeline?

#53 | Posted by taxman

In the end they will get their pipeline. And it won't solve the energy crisis.

I am happy just to sit here and watch The Boner paint himself into a corner and watch the GOP make fools of themselves.

Looks like someone else is in for a good shellacking soon.

say bye bye to the House GOPers!

From what I can tell, Republicans are:

1) Dead-set, really, that there be no extension of the payroll tax cut. Likely because they think a extension provides an advantage for Obama.

2) Dead-set as well that Obama takes the blame for any failure to extent payroll tax cuts.

3) They've therefore been attempting to play a rather blatant double-game that's turned around and bitten them royally in the ass.

4) To which I say: Good. You act like bastards then you should take the fall as bastards.

In the end they will get their pipeline. And it won't solve the energy crisis.

#56 | Posted by donnerboy

It's not going to create the jobs they'd like either. It may create a temporary economic bubble along the entire length of the pipeline. But, the bubble will have an ugly and devastating pop when the pipeline is finished and requires very few personnel to maintain it.

All of that oil will be flowing through their backyards. But in the end, it won't be dropping much money in their wallets.

WSJ... Just another left wing conspiratorial rag...

Man the tentacles run deep...

Better turn Faux News on again and download you GOTPer's daily dose of stupid before y'all spout off...

the tentacles run deep...

"Reminds me of one of my favorite movies..."
~Glasshouse

I am happy just to sit here and watch The Boner paint himself into a corner and watch the GOP make fools of themselves.

Looks like someone else is in for a good shellacking soon.

say bye bye to the House GOPers!

#56 | Posted by donnerboy

But the House Republicans are doing exactly what their constituency sent them there to do.

I think they will be back again next term and more Tea Party Republicans with them.

It's a brilliant system isn't it?

ByeBye teabaggers!

ByeBye teabaggers!

#62 | Posted by Mista Kurtz

And Hello Tea Party!

Like I just said. Their consituancy will vote them back in and two years after making many political mistakes and STILL giving the Democrats a "shellacken", other Neocons and Liberals will be replaced in Congress by Tea Partiers.

Brilliant systems we have, huh?

Out of the 140,580,000 people who work 160,000,000 want their payroll tax cut (to the detriment of Social Security which is already hurting). WTF! Why not cut some of Obama's paybacks and give it to the people. And maybe even throw a bone at the elderly. Also the Obama administration should employ someone that can read numbers.

Hint...look at the line that says EMPLOYED

Boner a one term speaker!

The GOP = God's Ordianed politicians! showing us what they're really all about. End a women right to choose. Stop the gays in the military from getting married. Teach prayer in public schools.

The religious control freak party! "Freedom their way" they talk to the invisible man...

TruthTeller,

Are you brave enough to tell us about yourself, like what you do for a living, your education background?

payroll tax cut? I thought it was my Social Security pension contribution

sooo, will my SS statement reflect that my contributions have fallen & the Feds will send me SMALLER CHECKS when I retire?

"I think they will be back again next term and more Tea Party Republicans with them."

TPers will be chased out of Washington soon.....by Republicans!

Suicide bombers.

Crispee your reading comprehension levels are subpar.

#32 | POSTED BY TAXMAN

No he is a classic troll trying to get you into a name calling game to change the topic. Ignore him totally.

And will it be using imminent domain to take over private property?
#51 | Posted by Corky at 2011-12-21 03:56 PM |

All those degrees on display once again... According to the Canucks, they have pretty much handled 90% of the"imminent" dommain issues through easements, and are working on the other 10%...

I wonder if Corky had "imminent domain" issues when Obama approved this and still stands by these words...

After considerable review and evaluation, on August 20, 2009, the Department issued a Presidential Permit to Enbridge Energy, Limited Partnership for the Alberta Clipper pipeline. In evaluating the Enbridge application, the Department worked in consultation with all relevant agencies and parties and with extensive public and stakeholder participation and outreach.

The Department found that the addition of crude oil pipeline capacity between Canada and the United States will advance a number of strategic interests of the United States. These included increasing the diversity of available supplies among the United States worldwide crude oil sources in a time of considerable political tension in other major oil producing countries and regions; shortening the transportation pathway for crude oil supplies; and increasing crude oil supplies from a major non-Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries producer. Canada is a stable and reliable ally and trading partner of the United States, with which we have free trade agreements which augment the security of this energy supply.

No he is a classic troll trying to get you into a name calling game to change the topic. Ignore him totally.
#70 | Posted by Legio at 2011-12-22 09:49 AM

Taxman is fortunate to have the Drudge killing machine defending him against trolls like myself. Now if the Paki ninja chimes in, he really has nothing to worry about, and I would be smart to take heed knowing what those two are capable of doing to me here...

crispee,

no libs here would give a shit about Eminent Domain if it were being imposed to run some sort of "green energy" or some other pet project.

These property owners refusing to sell would magically transform from being "victims" to "unamerican traitors".

oh, and the # of jobs created would be irrelevant and anybody standing in the way of it would be "anti-obama, anti-job, and anti-recovery"

"no libs here would give a shit about Eminent Domain if it were being imposed to run some sort of "green energy" or some other pet project."

Even the ones who can spell it correctly?

TPers will be chased out of Washington soon.....by Republicans!

"well, if you don't go with the establishment on everything, they will throw you out their party"

-Joe Lieberman

Eminent Domain Fight Has a Canadian Twist

Canadian company has been threatening to confiscate private land from South Dakota to the Gulf of Mexico, and is already suing many who have refused to allow the Keystone XL pipeline on their property even though the controversial project has yet to receive federal approval.

Randy Thompson, a cattle buyer in Nebraska, was informed that if he did not grant pipeline access to 80 of the 400 acres left to him by his mother along the Platte River, “Keystone will use eminent domain to acquire the easement.” Sue Kelso and her large extended family in Oklahoma were sued in the local district court by TransCanada, the pipeline company, after she and her siblings refused to allow the pipeline to cross their pasture.

-Rwingers for imminent domain, roflmao!

and when Obama and the lions share of dems authorize this?

It must be easy being a cheerleader...just take anything you don't like and assign it to the "rwing" even though your heros are in the tank for it. You don't really have to address that in your mind. Just babble the same stuff over and over.

Personally, I don't think it would be easy, but Corky sure makes it look easy.

-Even the ones who can spell it correctly?

are there any?

Rwingers for imminent domain, roflmao!
#76 | Posted by Corky at 2011-12-22 10:24 AM |

Corky and all those degrees... LMAO. I point out 90% of the issues are resolved and he presents 80 acres of a 400 acres area are in question.

From the same article Corky pasted...

Keystone XL extends TransCanada's commitment to treat landowners with respect and work with them in good faith. That commitment is reflected in the fact thatwe have successfully reached easement agreements with more than 80% of landowners on the route in Texas (as ofFebruary 2011). In addition, we have currently negotiated agreements with almost 93% of landowners who own/control almost 90% of the tracts of land along the entire pipeline route.During our 60-year history of safely meeting American's energy needs, we have developed positive relationships with more than 40,000 landowners in North America. We meet face-to-face with landowners to understand their specific needs and addresstheir concerns. We work hard to be a good neighbor.

It's the hypocracy, stupid.

All the state's righters, rugged individul liberty rwingers just melt when some corporation, even a foreign one, tells them to get their asses offa their own land or else.

"Funny how rwingers are against the ebil gubmint (v private citizens)..... oops! until they make corporations Super Citizens and give them the benefit of any doubt."

I'll go along with you on this one cork. And to make it worse, it's a foreign corporation.

#54 | Posted by eberly

It's the hypocracy, stupid.

fair enough.

either you believe in eminent domain or you don't.

"I think they will be back again next term and more Tea Party Republicans with them."

TPers will be chased out of Washington soon.....by Republicans!

#68 | Posted by danni

I doubt it as much as you doubt what you just said.

This is only wishful thinking on your part.

The facts are that the Tea Party Republicans are holding the Democrats accountable for the out of control spending and are forcing them to negotiate.

The Democrats are refusing and are behaving like little children.

Did you realize how stupid Obama looks going to the American people to ask them what they would be spending $40 on?

Do you think he's going to talk about the majority of people responding to him saying CUT THE GODDAMNED SPENDING!!! No, he's going to report on the minority of responses saying that they would spend it on food and shelter that they don't have...

I see that he and the Democrats in Congress are dishonest SOBs, why can't you?

Crispee your reading comprehension levels are subpar.

#32 | POSTED BY TAXMAN

No he is a classic troll trying to get you into a name calling game to change the topic. Ignore him totally.

#70 | Posted by Legio

I know!

I'm starting to be disgusted with the dishonesty coming out of the Left these days.

They've caused the current problems we have because of the out of control spending and major goof ups with the "Stimulus" and ObamaCare and won't admit the mistake and try to fix it.

"Funny how rwingers are against the ebil gubmint (v private citizens)..... oops! until they make corporations Super Citizens and give them the benefit of any doubt."

Except when Obama approves the Alberta Clipper Pipeline? Can you be more of an embarrassment Corky? LMAO!! Imminent Domain...

Why are democrats hell bent on defunding and destroying Social Security?

We all know that Social Security is heading quickly toward insolvency and yet democrats are preventing proper funding with this payroll tax bullshit.

If the tables were turned and republicans were the ones trying to do this then democrats would piss their pants.

Funny how rwingers are against the ebil gubmint (v private citizens)..... oops! until they make corporations Super Citizens and give them the benefit of any doubt.

Anything to make the 1 percenters happy.

#52 | Posted by Corky

Corky,

You really need to know the difference between Teaparty Republicans and Neocons. You obviously don't.

You hate both and don't why.

If you are GOP and you've lost the WSJ opinion page you gotta know it's pretty bad.

Staging a walk out on the bill was bad enough but then trying to control the optics by cutting off the live feed was 10 pounds of stupid is a five pound sack.

Boehner's days as speaker are numbered.

Cantor is even worse, of course.

And so it goes.

Be Well.

If you are GOP and you've lost the WSJ opinion page you gotta know it's pretty bad.
#87 | Posted by dethspud

Think about it Spud. The Wall Street crowd, readers of the WSJ, have been relying on the Neocon element in the GOP (and in the Democratic Party, too) for decades to plow the road, so to speak, for mega corporations to not only exploit this country but other countries as well (the influence of the American Empire). They are against the Tea Party Republicans who are threatening their way of life.

Boehner's days as speaker are numbered.
#87 | Posted by dethspud

Boehner is caught between two worlds. He's going try to satisfy both sides, the Neocon Republicans and the Tea Party Republicans as long as he can until the next election. He will then support whoever wins.

I think he's smart to do that. I would hate to be in his position right now.

"They are against the Tea Party Republicans who are threatening their way of life."

They've been using the TPers like stupid children, easily led, easily fooled, easily manipulated. We've been telling y'all that since Dick Armey first took over their movement.

"We all know that Social Security is heading quickly toward insolvency"

No, those of us who know what we're talking about know it's certainly not. SS still has 2.5 trillion in assets. It is solvent with absolutely no changes at all until about 2037. If we make necessary changes, such as rasing the amount of income subject to SS taxes, it can be made solvent permanently.

"They are against the Tea Party Republicans who are threatening their way of life."

They've been using the TPers like stupid children, easily led, easily fooled, easily manipulated. We've been telling y'all that since Dick Armey first took over their movement.

#90 | Posted by danni

LOL! You are slowly but still reluctant to learn that the Tea Party and its core beliefs are here to stay.

Where is Dick Army now? Where is Sarah Palin?

These are the hijackers you're talking about, right?

Let me ask you this? Where is Ron Paul, now? He's the originator of the Tea Party movement.

Against your wishes, the Tea Party is rallying around its core beliefs and throwing off the hijackers and other hangers on and are making real progress.

"SS still has 2.5 trillion in assets"

Yeah, that IOU I wrote to myself is a great asset. As long as I can counterfeit enough cashola to pay myself for it.

That's an aweful lot of faith right there.

BTW... Those 2.5 Tril can only be two possible things... future tax collections or the printing of money which devalues all the money currently circulating. Where as future taxation to pay current obligations is a certain death spiral.

They've been using the TPers like stupid children
#90 | Posted by danni

I can't get over how single-minded you are.

The current POTUS is out in front of the American people right now behaving like a child! Asking what you would spend $40 on? Are you kidding? Where's the leadership? The Tea Party Republicans in Congress are DOING HIS JOB and he's crying and screaming and thrashing on the floor like a child in front of the world!!!

Are you even paying attention, Danni?

I'm trying not to troll you Danni. Please make it easier for me not to troll you... pls...

"No, those of us who know what we're talking about know it's certainly not. SS still has 2.5 trillion in assets." - Danni

Then you would also know it has this "asset" in non-marketable government securities, which is really a polite way of saying future taxpayers. While I agree it shouldn't be empty we should not have traded that money to other parts of the government to give us surplus's and less deficits, but we did. I am sorry Danni it is empty....

They are against the Tea Party Republicans who are threatening their way of life.

#88 | Posted by Eddie

Okay Eddie, since the Teapublicans took the house name ONE thing that they have done to curtail the influence of said corporations.

-Where is Sarah Palin?

"Sarah Palin's absence slidelines tea party

The grassroots conservative movement has yet to throw its support behind a Republican presidential candidate because "we dont have the female Ronald Reagan running " and thats Sarah Palin," said Amy Kremer, chairwoman of the Tea Party Express.

"We havent engaged in presidential politics yet because the movement hasnt coalesced around anybody, so weâre just sitting back and waiting," Kremer added.

"but we did. I am sorry Danni it is empty...."

Wanna bet the checks are going to stop???

"we dont have the female Ronald Reagan running "

An empty mind is a terrible thing to waste.

-They've been using the TPers like stupid children

Mitch McConnell in KY perfected using a volitile minority in his own Party to get what he wanted from Dems. Then he did it again as Minority Leader of the Sen, telling Harry Reed and Obama that his hands were tied by House TPers and Boner couldn't control them.

The TP was astroturfed by Dick Armey and the Koch Bros before they could even get out of the cradle.

An empty mind is a terrible thing to waste.

#100 | Posted by danni at 2011-12-22 11:29 AM

Don't sell yourself short danni. Your's brings a lot of entertainment here. Much like Shiela Jackson-Lee and 99% of dems who appear on C-Span...

They are against the Tea Party Republicans who are threatening their way of life.

#88 | Posted by Eddie

Okay Eddie, since the Teapublicans took the house name ONE thing that they have done to curtail the influence of said corporations.

#97 | Posted by Whatsleft

Here's a list:

"War Street Journal"

Boner a one term speaker!

The GOP = God's ordained Politician! aka Christian Taliban

1. Stop the gays in the military from getting married.
2. End a women right to choose.
3. Force prayer in the public schools.

Religious control freaks who talk to the invisible man...

#103 | Posted by Eddie

I didn't ask what Ron Pauls positions have been, dipshit.

The question... again.. Since they took the house, what have the Teapublicans actually done to curtail the influence of corporations?

ah yes....radical left uses ROVES plea for press and now the wsj....

but WAIT A Minute....the rightwing is ALL kooks and Krazy ..or so I read here all the time....SURELY you pricks arent saying that conservative pundits and media can ever be have more than one view.

hhhhmmmmmmmmmm remember this during the next CELISARY SIGHTING....

CELISARY SIGHTING....

#107 | Posted by afkabl2

Are you sure that you aren't Celisary?

the rightwing is ALL kooks and Krazy ..or so I read here all the time....

#107 | Posted by afkabl2

Sure baKFlab...only the right gets called crazy on this site. Keep feeding your delusions.

Mr Obama, please include a tax holiday in the new payroll tax bill for my cigarette taxes, which you increased by 70 cents three years ago to pay for children's healthcare. That'll save me about 30 bucks a month. In turn, I will use my winnings for Friday Pizza Night. Thanks and God Bless

#103 | Posted by Eddie

I didn't ask what Ron Pauls positions have been, dipshit.

The question... again.. Since they took the house, what have the Teapublicans actually done to curtail the influence of corporations?

#106 | Posted by Whatsleft

Dipshit? You can always tell when they are threatened by the argument.

My original post was that Wall Street is threatened by the Tea Party.

Ron Paul is the originator of the Tea Party.

Ron Paul is a Congressman is he not?

His voting record is in the link

Sure baKFlab...only the right gets called crazy on this site. Keep feeding your delusions.

#109 | Posted by Whatsleft

LOL!!!

Danni, Doc, Axe, LetUs, Corky and now Whatsleft are all Obama supporting partisan hacks.

Need I proceed? Or do you get the picture.

Eddie, baKFlab should have his ass kicked for getting your mother pregnant.

What the hell???

Republicans against abortion, but they don't want kids to have health care once their born...What up with that?

GOP are control freaks...they talk to the invisible man!

Republicans against abortion, but they don't want kids to have health care once their born...What up with that?

Boner a one term speaker!

Let's hope so. He's beyond a dumbass.
How the fuck do you lose a tax cut battle to Harry Reid?

Only a republican could be so low as to against the affordable health care act. Its not free, never was its about affordable insurance for 50 million americans who don't have insurance.

Sure Republicans are against it because its a democrat plan. They have no plan of there own, so they got to bitch.Republicans are a do nothing party. They're just control freaks against a women right to choose. Yet they seem to be against childred getting health care.

Truthteller must want a butt fucking in a Turkish prison.

Nothing else explains his rantings...