Why don't you invite him over to your place for vacation so we can all save a few dollars?

Obama signs order to cut travel, cellphones, swag

With such orders, signed in Oval Office ceremonies, Obama is trying to demonstrate that he is engaged in measures large and small and to distinguish himself from what he argues is a pretty unproductive Congress.

#1 | Posted by Monstman

You can have him over and discuss Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels all week.

Sorry, I cannot fault the Prez. for taking a vacation.

How about Michelle leaving early for only a few hundred thousand more?

Seriously- for a guy that drones on about "fair shares" and "corporate jet owners" and "trips to Vegas" and "cutting waste," this is getting more and more infuriating.

#Occupy Hawaiian Vacations on the Taxpayer Dime!

On the other hand, you do lead by example.

I don't begrudge any president a vacation but the Obama family is living large. They have a home in Chicago and a country retreat at Camp David but it's off to Hawaii they go. At least the money is being spent in the US so that's a good thing.

They have a home in Chicago and a country retreat at Camp David but it's off to Hawaii they go. At least the money is being spent in the US so that's a good thing.

I'm not getting into whether it is excessive or not, but I do find great humor that the left, who criticized Bush for vacationing in a shit hole like crawford Texas, doesn't have a problem with the Obama's exotic vacations and Michelle Antoinette traveling separately.

LOL

Different rules for different parties, I guess.

Let's not forget that Crawford was the "Western White House," with a set-up that allowed him to conduct all business needed. Not exactly a rental in the Vineyard or hotel on the beach.

#9 | Posted by adammm

The left was hanging on Bush's sack his whole 8 years and while they complained all the time about how often he was "on vacation" I never remember them bring up the cost? Why because they didn't cost millions. When the analysis of all the vacation expenses for the Obama's comes out the figure will be astronomical but to be honest it may be a good value to keep them out of the white house when you put it up against a 5 trillion increase is the deficit.

Why because they didn't cost millions

Largely because Crawford was "wired" up already to emulate communications in the WH. Also, no special entourage and SS details needed in the middle of nowhere.

Like I said, different rules for different parties. The party of the elite that is now in office has no problem spending excessive tax payer dollars for their amusement.

Barry wants her out of the WH because of her affair.

Barry wants her out of the WH because of her affair.

I'm still struggling with the allegation that Michelle had an affair. I mean, if someone wanted to fuck a married woman, why choose one who looked like that when there are so many beautiful ones around?

*shudder*

Barack Obama is the most destructive and polarizing figure to ever sit in the white house and it only took him 3 years to accomplish it.

Barack Obama is the most destructive and polarizing figure to ever sit in the white house and it only took him 3 years to accomplish it.

#14 | Posted by dnmxt

Got some good spice, eh, dmt?

With such orders, signed in Oval Office ceremonies, Obama is trying to demonstrate that he is engaged in measures large and small and to distinguish himself from what he argues is a pretty unproductive Congress.

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#2 | Posted by paneocon at 2011-12-18 08:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is the kicker. Obama = complete hypocrite on this issue.

"Let's not forget that Crawford was the "Western White House," with a set-up that allowed him to conduct all business needed. Not exactly a rental in the Vineyard or hotel on the beach."

Let's not forget that really, there's nowhere in the world a president would go where he wouldn't be in touch with his staff, receive daily briefings, do all the business of the president except meet directly with those who are back in Washington. This was true when Bush was president, and it's true now.

Goat is right to call out those lefties who are inconsistent about this. We are not all inconsistent. I will defend Bush on this, and I will defend Obama. The money issue is separate, related but separate. I don't know what those rules are; I keep reading that politicians have to pay, by reg or law. Don't know...

They have to pay if there is no business function. Obama will party for 15 days, campaign for 2, and then have a four minute speech about Hawaiian jobs. Michelle will be there early sipping on margaritas and eating Paula Dean food, and then visit a school to do jumping jacks for ten minutes, and that will make the entire trip a taxpayer-funded holiday.

Thanks for the cynicism and Obama-bashing, Adammmmmmmmm. Way to advance a serious discussion.

#17 | Posted by pragmatist at 2011-12-19 08:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

The major issue is that Obama just signed an executive order (meaning he did it himself) that calls for the restriction of unnecessary and frivolous spending on travel and stay.

What do you call a situation where his wife and children take a separate plane, separate security detail, etc. to go on a vacation that is not even necessary in the first place?

And all this only 1 month after he signed the executive order to restrain such things.

On the other hand, you do lead by example.

Assuming you lead at all.

And all this only 1 month after he signed the executive order to restrain such things.

Do as I say...

20--I get that point. I was not commenting on it. It does indeed seem contradictory. But for me, it comes back to the money. If he's paying for it, I don't care. If it's my tax dollars, I care.

And those who worry about vacation time for presidents still need to rethink their position.

#23 | Posted by pragmatist at 2011-12-19 10:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder if we would ever be able to get the real numbers regarding the full cost of this trip, what Obama paid for and what you and I paid for.

"I wonder if we would ever be able to get the real numbers regarding the full cost of this trip, what Obama paid for and what you and I paid for."

Should be covered by FOIA, right? I wonder, too, if the concern extends to other presidents' actions. I know, Marie Antoinette and all that, but I can't imagine other presidents never took trips other than to Camp David.

#25 | Posted by pragmatist at 2011-12-19 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

My major frustration is over the unnecessary multiplication of planes and security detail.

26--I hear that, and I think I agree.

But maybe they prescribe to the idea that the whole family should never fly together? (Was that World According to Garp, or was it Hotel New Hampshire? Damn that John Irving.)

how much does war cost? who gets the money?

#28 | Posted by webwrangler

And you point? (as if I can't guess)

In light of his recent silliness about excessive government expenses this... bah I don't have the energy to even type this all again. Anyone who took even a cursory look at his history before creaming their pants and campaigning for his hope and change would not be surprised by any of his lies or hypocrisies.

#29 | POSTED BY PANEOCON AT 2011-12-19 12:15 PM | REPLY | FLAG:
why worry about pennies? this is a political smear. the milidustcomplex
is the invisible hand in this smear imho. who makes money from war?
are they moral? how far will they go? these are more important questions
than what it costs to "handle" the first lady.

#31 | Posted by webwrangler

I see them as separate questions. In the big scheme of things when it comes to money war is not as expensive as some of our other expense.

32--WHAT?! How many trillions were spent on the Iraq debacle? What are the long-term negative economic effects?

, but I do find great humor that the left, who criticized Bush for vacationing in a shit hole like crawford Texas,

Goatsy, it was more the daily commute from Shithole Texas to DC on AF-1 that bugged us. That and running back to Dc after calling for a special session to pass the Schiavo law that even Speedy Gonzalez knew was unconstitutional.
I know he did it to protect his entire braindead base, but still...

Goatsy, it was more the daily commute from Shithole Texas

Someone from michigan calling Texas a shithole? LOL. That's like motel 6 telling the Ritz they are a flop house.

Oh, I'm sorry. Let me get back and read your "message". The laughter of your self-deprecation caught me off guard.

So it "bugged" you huh? Well, you poor thing, you. Since it didn't happen daily as you say, you can now get over it and focus on reality. LOL

"but I do find great humor that the left, who criticized Bush for vacationing in a shit hole like crawford Texas,"

#8 | Posted by goatman at 2011-12-18 08:44 PM | Reply | Flag: Can't remember what he posted.

#8 | Posted by goatman at 2011-12-18 08:44 PM | Reply | Flag: Can't remember what he posted.

???

I guess this is supposed to be relevent to something.

For example, the president's security usually rents an entire floor of an office building in Kailua on the canal during the president's stay.

There are security upgrades and additional phone lines to several private homes where Obama and friends are staying. That includes bullet proof glass installed, home security systems disabled, new security measures put into place and additional phone lines added.

There is the cost for car rentals and fuel for White House staff staying at Moana Hotel.

And there are additional travel costs Secret Service and White House staff traveling ahead of the President.

So, what any President would require. But it's Obama - impeach now!!1

So, what any President would require. But it's Obama - impeach now!!1

#39 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR AT 2011-12-19 03:33 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Except he had just finished telling everyone else to cut unnecessary expenditures, like.. say.. a Hawaiian fucking vacation?

He didn't say "cut unnecessary expenditures" it's "Promote Efficient Spending"

Sec. 3. Travel. (a) Agency travel is important to the effective functioning of Government and certain activities can be performed only by traveling to a different location. However, to ensure efficient travel spending, agencies are encouraged to devise strategic alternatives to Government travel, including local or technological alternatives, such as teleconferencing and video conferencing. Agencies should make all appropriate efforts to conduct business and host or sponsor conferences in space controlled by the Federal Government, wherever practicable and cost effective. Lastly, each agency should review its policies associated with domestic civilian permanent change of duty station travel (relocations), including eligibility rules, to identify ways to reduce costs and ensure appropriate controls are in place.

(b) Each agency, agency component, and office of inspector general should designate a senior level official to be responsible for developing and implementing policies and controls to ensure efficient spending on travel and conference related activities, consistent with subsection (a) of this section.

Did you guys even read the article?

"However, the U.S. Air Force provides the most current numbers of $181,757 per flight hour. Travel time for Air Force One direct from Washington D.C. to Hawaii is about 9 hours or $1,635,813 each way for a total of $3,271,622 for the round trip to Hawaii and back.

"but I do find great humor that the left, who criticized Bush for vacationing in a shit hole like crawford Texas,"

People criticized Bush for taking the most vacation days of any president in living memory.

Nobody even mentioned the cost back then.

Suddenly Obama is in office and butt hurt RWers make it a point to "get them libs back" by trying to make political hay every time Obama takes a vacation.

This is knee jerk LCD political hackery designed expressly to resonate with politically unsophisticated mouth-breathing masses incapable of critical thinking.

* reads thread *

Seems to work pretty good too.

LOL.

Be Well.

Spud, GW vacationed at his own house, a house that is one of the most eco freindly and carbon neautral ever built.

There was no dollar cost, except for transportation, and unlike Michelle, Barbara enjoys her husband company.

There was no dollar cost, except for transportation, and unlike Michelle, Barbara enjoys her husband company.

Too bad George prefers sleepovers with Jeff Gannon to his beard wife, eh?

^__^

S'fun game!

Be Well.

Obama needs a vacation--permanently--can't wait for January 2013.

As for this excellent adventure--4 million sounds pretty high.

POTUS Need vacations. They did sign up for the stress--but that doesn't mean they can't get a change of scenery.

Now I hope the first plane left Michelle and came back for Obama.

They won't have two planes on the tarmack in HI--right?

The appearances of all this will rub folks the wrong way.

It's the economy sutpid.

"There was no dollar cost, except for transportation"

Really, no dollar cost?

This home was officially dubbed the Western White House, and substantial Federal funds were used to make security, communications, and real estate ...

In 2002, the ranch was wired for what Bush described in a 2003 tour of the ranch as "real time, secure videoconferencing" to be used for his briefings from the CIA and other secured communications.

Wonder what cost to fly John McCain back to his birth place, Panama?

In 2002, the ranch was wired for what Bush described in a 2003 tour of the ranch as "real time, secure videoconferencing" to be used for his briefings from the CIA and other secured communications.

#47 | Posted by soulfly

Which equals about 1/4 of 1/2 of 1/8th of what Michelle Obama 28th ranked traveling secretary makes in a year.

Don't be stupid, there is no comparison.

You say "There was no dollar cost, except for transportation"
So don't type stupid shit. Don't believe everything you "think".

"Which equals about 1/4 of 1/2 of 1/8th of what Michelle Obama 28th ranked traveling secretary makes in a year."

So which is it? When your just pulling this shit out of your ass guess theres no need for facts. Do you even know the cost of the upgrades?

"Michelle Obama 28th ranked traveling secretary makes in a year."

Sure.

When you lie to make a point it makes you look stupid

In 2002, the ranch was wired for what Bush described in a 2003 tour of the ranch as "real time, secure videoconferencing" to be used for his briefings from the CIA and other secured communications.
#47 | Posted by soulfly

Otherwise known as Skype.....

In 2002, the ranch was wired for what Bush described in a 2003 tour of the ranch as "real time, secure videoconferencing" to be used for his briefings from the CIA and other secured communications.
#47 | Posted by soulfly

Otherwise known as Skype.....

Posted by AndreaMackris at 2011-12-20 03:22 AM

LOL. Did they have the internets in those days?

"However, the U.S. Air Force provides the most current numbers of $181,757 per flight hour. Travel time for Air Force One direct from Washington D.C. to Hawaii is about 9 hours or $1,635,813 each way for a total of $3,271,622 for the round trip to Hawaii and back.

#42 | Posted by soulfly at 2011-12-20 12:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

For one plane? Wow. So whatever it would have cost for the president to go with all his security personnel etc... double that due to the fact that Michelle and the kids could not wait a few days before leaving.

Unnecessary spending.

The two 747's cost $30,000/hour (low end estimate) when not being flown.

The two 747's were ordered under Reagan and are due to be replaced in 2017.

"...double that due to the fact that Michelle and the kids could not wait a few days before leaving"

Why double? The First Lady's early flight costs $63,000.

"Spud, GW vacationed at his own house, a house that is one of the most eco freindly and carbon neautral ever built."

Which points to another facet of the Bush administration: irony. Apparently, green tech and habits/construction were good enough for him...

But I digress.

Spud, GW vacationed at his own house, a house that is one of the most eco friendly and carbon neutral ever built.

Yeah, must be nice having a dad who's a former POTUS.

Still doesn't discount the fact that Dumbya set the record for most vacation days by a POTUS.

Which makes all of this faux-raging every time the Obama family takes a vacation seem hypocritical as hell.

The fact you can't seem to get this is lulzy as hell as well.

Be Well.

#58 | Posted by pragmatist

Contrary to DR opinion conservatives do care agout clean air and clean water and energy effecenty. I do admit that I'm giving Bush a break here classifing him as a conservative. Green building has a payback and is the right thing to do. I attack the idiots here on unproven science with no payback. Like electric cars and carbon trading and all that other "the sky is falling crap". I have a term for these fellows, I call them "whole wheat twinkies". People who get all bent out of shape over global warming but drive a F150 and don't recycle.

Why double? The First Lady's early flight costs $63,000.

#57 | Posted by REDIAL at 2011-12-20 07:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

The First lady has to take a security detail, she has to go through other arrangements as well, all which cost money.

The cost of one flight, security detail, and other security issues has to be doubled if the family is splitting into two separate groups.

They have a home in Chicago and a country retreat at Camp David but it's off to Hawaii they go.

The president should be able to vacation in his home state without partisans using ordinary expenses -- like Air Force One travel -- to try making it sound wasteful. How much do you think it cost to fly Bush to Crawford, Texas, for the most vacation days in modern presidential history?

"The cost of one flight, security detail, and other security issues has to be doubled if the family is splitting into two separate groups."

No it doesn't. The article says $63,000 for her flight and probably $100,000 including security.

No it doesn't. The article says $63,000 for her flight and probably $100,000 including security.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2011-12-20 09:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Probably?

The president should be able to vacation in his home state without partisans using ordinary expenses -- like Air Force One travel -- to try making it sound wasteful. How much do you think it cost to fly Bush to Crawford, Texas, for the most vacation days in modern presidential history?

#62 | Posted by rcade at 2011-12-20 09:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

President should not be willing to unnecessarily multiply expenses with travel when he just singed an executive order regarding similar issues one month ago. I think his wife and the girls could wait a few days.

How much do you think it cost to fly Bush to Crawford, Texas, for the most vacation days in modern presidential history?

A lot less than Hawaii. Also (as you know, but are ignoring) flights are just a small part of the cost. How much do you think it takes to set up a temporary command post in a Honolulu hotel, just to be torn down days later? The Crawford setup was permanent -- it didn't have to be rebuilt every time. This is probably true about other infrastructure details (like security) as well

Also, Laura didn't take a separate flight so she could get there a few hours earlier.

You lefties vain spinning trying to make the Obama's expensive and exotic vacations look like the more humble and simple and cheaper ones the Bush's took is pathetic.

"Probably?"
#64 | Posted by ExpsRedemption

OK, it didn't say probably, it said about $100,000.

The president should be able to vacation in his home state without partisans using ordinary expenses

Who's bitching about his vacations in Illinois? Does he even take any there?

"Does he even take any there?"

I remember he was there for Memorial Day one time and people were bitching because he wasn't at Arlington.

People will always find something to bitch about regardless of who the president is.

I remember he was there for Memorial Day one time and people were bitching because he wasn't at Arlington.
Posted by REDIAL

His wife was. Did she win, place or show?

You lefties vain spinning trying to make the Obama's expensive and exotic vacations look like the more humble and simple and cheaper ones the Bush's took is pathetic.

Actually, the real pathos comes into play here is when RW 'tards like yerself try to make this lame "expensive and exotic" argument over and over again while defending Bush's shoddy record.

Hypocrisy incarnate.

Hey isn't that the very thing you rail about on a daily basis?

/On one side only, of course.

Funneh ole world.

Be Well.

/Go on, tell us the one about how yer co-workers think yer a bleeding heart liberal again.
//Always good for a laugh.

A lot less than Hawaii.

How many times does Obama go to Hawaii a year -- once or twice? Bush went to Crawford all the time.

Actually, the real pathos comes into play here is when RW 'tards like yerself try to make this lame "expensive and exotic" argument over and over again while defending Bush's shoddy record.

#71 | Posted by dethspud at 2011-12-20 09:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

Gee, Potato, I haven't seen anyone saying "expensive and exotic" arguments WHILE defending Bush's shoddy record. I have seen them make the "expensive and exotic" argument WHILE pointing out the pissing and moaning from the left when Bush went on vacation to Texas only to get responses like yours here.

From what it appears... the democrats are having a harder time realizing that the new boss is very similar (nothing is every really the same) as the old boss.

Actually, the real pathos comes into play here is when RW 'tards like yersel

*yawn*

"I know you are but what am I?"

I read enough of that post.

How many times does Obama go to Hawaii a year -- once or twice? Bush went to Crawford all the time.

#72 | Posted by rcade at 2011-12-20 09:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

Martha's Vinyard, Spain, the Gulf Coast etc.

I read enough of that post.

Truth hurts, don't it?

Be Well.

Gee, Potato, I haven't seen anyone saying "expensive and exotic" arguments WHILE defending Bush's shoddy record. I have seen them make the "expensive and exotic" argument WHILE pointing out the pissing and moaning from the left when Bush went on vacation to Texas only to get responses like yours here.

Nobody compalined about the expense when Bush took vacations.

People were mostly just pissed at the amount of time the so-called War President was taking off.

Don't remember anyone bitching over the cost of Clinton's vacations either.

Or Bush I's or Reagan's or Carter's for that matter.

Suddenly Obama gets elected and it's an issue. A BFD.

Gee, what's so different about Obama compared to all them other guys that he deserves such singular treatment?

Be Well.

President Obamas had actually reduced his travel costs significantly.

$4 Million for 17 days is way cheaper than the $200 Million per day for the India trip.

#72 | Posted by rcade

Only a hard core partisan would have the Obama's back on Vacation spending. If this was an isolated splurge I wouldn't have posted it but it is not isolated. The Barry & Michelle are serial tax payer abusers. This is a republic and not a monarchy.

Only a hard core partisan would give a shit about Obama's Vacation spending.

~Windowpane.

As you prove all too well.

Be Well.

#80 | Posted by dethspud

No what I care about is the waste of tax payer money and I would be doing the say thing if this was a republican.

Truth hurts, don't it?

What truth? That "I know you are but what am I" coming from you again is the best you can do?

I can't say it "hurts" per se. It's stupid and not worth my time to read. Besides, you are so predictible -- always towing the leftie line -- what is the point reading what you pretend are "truths"? Your handlers may allow you to see some truth, but obviously (judging by your posts) not all of them.

I'd rather converse with the well informed and uncensored, deth. That clearly leaves you out.

#77 | Posted by dethspud at 2011-12-20 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Really Potato? With all those eyes I would think that you could plainly see the people complaining about the cost of Bush's vacations. It is taking place on this very thread.

Come on Potato, get your head out of the sand.

Gee, what's so different about Obama compared to all them other guys that he deserves such singular treatment?

Be Well.

#77 | Posted by dethspud at 2011-12-20 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Nothing. The only reason he is getting more scrutiny is because he just signed and executive order, only 1 month ago, about decreasing unnecessary travel expenses etc.

Nothing. The only reason he is getting more scrutiny is because he just signed and executive order, only 1 month ago, about decreasing unnecessary travel expenses etc.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that this vacation derp started this month?

Cos that'd be funneh!

Be Well.

The only reason he is getting more scrutiny is because he just signed and executive order, only 1 month ago, about decreasing unnecessary travel expenses etc.

Give me a break. Right wingers have a conniption every time he goes anywhere other than Camp David.

#85 | Posted by dethspud at 2011-12-20 11:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

No, I'm talking about this thread. Context, try it potato.

Give me a break. Right wingers have a conniption every time he goes anywhere other than Camp David.

#86 | Posted by rcade at 2011-12-20 11:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

Give yourself a break, hell even a vacation. You fulfill the qualifications of the people Prag mentioned are being slightly hypocritical.

Obama is just as hypocritical as Bush was. I have no problem saying that.

You do, because then you would have to admit that Obama is something other than what he campaigned to be and what you voted for.

"Are you seriously trying to suggest that this vacation derp started this month?"

They weren't going to bitch this time, but he went and signed that dang thing and made them.

Right wingers have a conniption every time he goes anywhere other than Camp David.

#86 | Posted by rcade

Just a matter of time before they start whining about that.

Using the $181,717 figure, 3 hours flight time each way to Crawford, and the number of trips just to Crawford (not Kennebunkport or any other destination) Bush's Crawford vacation costs come to ~$8,400,000.

But as we have been told over and over again, the President is never on vacation. At least Bush never was.

#91 | Posted by YAV

And maybe this is why conservatives didn't show up in 2009. Bush was not a good steward of the tax pays money either.

No, I'm talking about this thread. Context, try it potato.

You want context?

Bush went on vacation more than any other POTUS in recent memory and was rightfully questioned on it at the time but nobody ever questioned the associated costs AT THAT TIME.

Rewind.

Same story for previous Presidents, in terms of the no money complaints not so much the time thing. Clinton, just as a l'il factoid here, was the least vacationing President in modern memory. But Spud is digress. Back to the context.

Obama gets elected.

Suddenly every time he takes a vacation RW bean counters start up the fauxragin' and mindless poodles like yerself yap along.

Leaving the obvious question in one's mind.

What precisely is it that is different about Obama versus previous Presidents that is making the RWers lose their shiat so epically?

In case, you still haven't figured it out lemme clarify.

WE GET IT, HE'S BLACK.

Are we clear?

Also you were the muthapuppy who just tried to pretend this fauxrage stemmed from sommat Obama signed a month or so ago after Spud had already given you the context and then had the unbelievable stupidity to challenge Spud about "context".

Do you now see why you are such an idiot or should Spud type all that again more slowly using easier words?

Be Well.

/Yes, snap.

#93 | Posted by dethspud at 2011-12-20 11:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

Potato, did Obama sign the order? Did he then unnecessarily multiply travel expenses?

That's the point being made.

The other point is, you have democrats now crying about Bush traveling, but don't care that Obama contradicts an executive order (something they were against to begin with) he just signed into effect a month ago.

You must be a curly fry. Sorry your so dizzy from the fry making contraption spinning you around. Keep your eyes peeled next time (tee-hee [some nonsensical cutesy speak for you, potato] )

You do, because then you would have to admit that Obama is something other than what he campaigned to be and what you voted for..

I've criticized Obama numerous times. I just don't criticize him about trumped-up Fox News nonsense like this.

#93 | Posted by dethspud

Spud plays the race card

I never thought about how appropriate you DR alter Ego is:

The spud is a starchy, tuberous crop also known as the nightshades, that grows underground and benefit from large applications of compost. Exposure to sun promotes the creation of a natural toxin, and increase of bitterness.

I think it's funny that some of Spud's critics assail him for his "cutesy-speak." The man says more with his silly style (which I sort of enjoy, though I generally disdain those who speak of themselves in the third person) and in a few words than many of his critics say in full paragraphs. (Yes, this from Prolix Pragmatist.)

#42 | POSTED BY SOULFLY AT 2011-12-20 12:27 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Is anyone else getting the feeling Stepp went and fetched himself a new screenname?

#97 | Posted by pragmatist

You are correct. The DR would less interesting with out spud.

Merry Christmas Spud, you will never be "small potatoes" around here

Well, reactivated an old one, anyway. Same difference.

"I think it's funny that some of Spud's critics assail him for his "cutesy-speak." The man says more with his silly style (which I sort of enjoy, though I generally disdain those who speak of themselves in the third person) and in a few words than many of his critics say in full paragraphs."

You must mean a gem like this? Which as usual says more about you and any fool praising the gay retard...

In case, you still haven't figured it out lemme clarify.

WE GET IT, HE'S BLACK.

Are we clear?
#93 | Posted by dethspud at 2011-12-20 11:53 AM

I think it's funny that some of Spud's critics assail him for his "cutesy-speak." The man says more with his silly style (which I sort of enjoy, though I generally disdain those who speak of themselves in the third person) and in a few words than many of his critics say in full paragraphs. (Yes, this from Prolix Pragmatist.)

#97 | POSTED BY PRAGMATIST AT 2011-12-20 12:23 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Not true. He says in an irritating form, loaded with dumabss "character" addons, which takes extra time to scroll past what others say in one sentence.

Now onto the "cutesy speak" itself. Ever read the works of Piers Anthony? He published "social observations" from some cuban boy-fiddler that were sent to him from jail and they were all exactly like what Spud does. The child molestor even admits he writes and speaks like that because it enthralls children.

And adult male willingly using that sort of typing is as creepy as an adult male wearing a Pokemon shirt and hanging around the park trying to drum up impromptu baseball games.

Adults can agree to disagree. I stand by what I said. I don't find his stuff hard to read at all. There are many others I find harder to read and less cogent (Afk and LE come to mind). Were he my friend in real life, I'd warn him away from the style (Friends don't let friends speak of themselves in the third person), but he's not. (shrug)

U.S. sued over Michelle's secretive 'family outing'
'How much did the American people spend to send the first lady' on safari?

Judicial Watch has filed a lawsuit over the federal government's refusal to disclose how much taxpayers spent to send Michelle Obama on a "family outing" that included a safari in Africa.

The organization requested information in June regarding the expenses for the trip. The request included records for the mission taskings for the June 21-27 trip to South Africa and Botswana, the transportation costs and all passenger manifests for the trip.

The government had until Aug. 3 to respond, but did not, so Judicial Watch now has followed up with a lawsuit.

Check out the comments on paneocon's link. WoW!!

#105 | Posted by prozacboi

Looks like a lot of people who will be voting in November and some how I suspect it will not be for Barry.

#106 | Posted by paneocon

Lucky for them there's no IQ requirement.