Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Saturday, December 17, 2011

A day after they clashed during a GOP presidential debate, Ron Paul said Michele Bachmann is biased against Muslims. "She hates Muslims," Paul said on The Tonight Show. "She wants to go get 'em." Paul said during the debate, "To declare war on 1.2 billion Muslims and say all Muslims are the same, this is dangerous talk. Yeah, there are some radicals, but they don't come here to kill us because we're free and prosperous."

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Bachmann hates anyone who isn't a raving anti-intellectual shitstain.

And gays. She hates the ghey.

Hating Muslims is smart.

I bet she doesn't hate Muslims and gays as much as she hates Tina Brown.

"Hating Muslims is smart."

#3 | POSTED BY FWTHOM

Failed Wigger Thom.

Americans have been conditioned for decades or more to hate Muslims by Hollywood, the media, neocons and especially the Israeli shills in our government. Stupid gullible people are taught to hate by way of the constant drum beat of propaganda by self serving individuals.

The Germans were taught exactly the same way, as we Americans through propaganda about the Jews.

Shes a fundamentalist Christian so she hates all other religions not her own. She also hates science, intellectuals, books(not the bible), brown people who forget their place and ironically she hates gay people even though her husband is so obviously gay.

The nutty uncle really steps in it with that accusation.

And Paul blames the US for 9/11 and all the other attacks by jihadists.

Jihadists hate Sweden and Switzerland too--since they have had attacks there too.

I don't think this is news. Paul's telling the truth. Most conservatives hate Muslims.

And most Muslims hate the (very few) things liberals like about Western civilization.

Bachmann hates anyone who isn't a raving anti-intellectual shitstain.

#1 | Posted by Dr_Asspick

You'll get over it, you angry little queen.

Since when do you give a fuck what Bachmann thinks, anyways?

In Michele's defense I'm pretty sure she hates the fake Muslim in the White House more

Paul is right. Bachmann hates mooslims. Many on the right hate mooslims and want to "go go get 'em".

Many on the left hate 'em too, they're just too cowardice to admit it.

I personally hate some mooslims. Saudis are the worst. The dumb fucks in North Africa come in at a very close second.

My hate is not biased. The Zionists in Israel are shit too.

I do like Turks, Persians and Pakis (Tosser excluded!). I tend to support Lebonese as well.

Like I said, Paul is right.

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations â€" entangling alliances with none." ~ Thomas Jefferson

FOX NEWS is very unhappy with that statement by Rep. Paul, which means that is is probably true. Fox just hates when Facts comes into the conversation.......Racist Bitch!!!!

So?

paul is right. and he's being not politically correct about it, which is good. bachmann hates and fears muslims. so do most of her followers. the rhetoric is enough to understand the depth of their feelings. it has nothing to do with not being informed. it has everything to do with knowing the avenues to power in this country, and muslim hating right now is one of the biggest. if you spew on muslims, you are guaranteed the attention and support of many americans, and perhaps even a celebrated interview on fucks-news if you threaten to burn the quran.

paul is smart and brave enough to understand and put forard the idea that the america as he and the founders of this country envisions it is much more powerful than anything the muslim world could ever throw at it. that is why he makes so much sense. that's he doesn't have to fucking lie or play upon people's fears and prejudices in order to get his point across.

I give Paul credit because he neither panders nor lies as do most politicians. He has had that attribute for not just months, but many decades.

While I don't agree with everything he says, I believe he is honest. Honesty and truth are lost attributes from business, media, politicians, and our government and it has led to the corruption of our nation.

Instead of truth we get intentional misinformation to advance agendas. We need a rebirth of truth and ethics.

Ron Paul / libertarians for 2012 - OR ELSE your voting to die!

"Bachmann hates anyone who isn't a raving anti-intellectual shitstain."

Heh-heh. Beevis said 'shitstain.' Heh-heh.

Hating Muslims is smart.

#3 | Posted by fwthom

So?

#15 | Posted by tontonmacoute

Some people just Love to Hate.

"Americans have been conditioned for decades or more to hate Muslims by Hollywood, the media, neocons and especially the Israeli shills in our government."

Yes, none of it is a backlash against constant threats, repeated terrorist attacks, honor killing type behavior and "great Satan" type rhetoric. All of our actions have consequences but their actions occur in a vacuum. The negative feelings many Americans have about Islam can't possibly have anything to do with all the horrible things done in the name of Islam or the rampant anti-American bigotry constantly flaunted by the Muslim world.

Its all on us. That's the "sophisticated" way to look at it.

Pfffft.

How in the hell did this woman ever get elected to congress?
She is totally nuts....

I think what Bachmann hates most is that trip to the mirror every morning.

Must be hell looking at yourself and knowing what a fraud you are.

I don't hate them but they need to be in Muslim countries,I am not fooled by their pronouncement that they are a peaceful religion.That holds until they think they have sufficient numbers then they become aggressive. Their founder's method of spreading their ideology was by the sword,History dictates nothing has changed.

Bachman a cunt who will hate on anyone for $. She even hates on women - without letting on the obvious that anti-abortion shit violates a woman's inalienable rights. Pretty F'd up that a woman would try to represent women's freedoms while being against such a basic freedom of a woman. The "C" word comes to mind.

The "C" word comes to mind....
#25 | POSTED BY REITZE

And used correctly:

Bachman a cunt who will hate on anyone for $.
#25 | POSTED BY REITZE

Racist Bitch!!!!

#14 | Posted by celisary

Celery, why do you always have to come off as such a vaginal cleaning tool?

Celery, why do you always have to come off as such a vaginal cleaning tool?

#27 | POSTED BY SICKOFLIBS

If your going to insult, go for the fucking gold! Douche!

Anyone can call someone a douche, dickhead. Try being a little original.

Bachmann doesn't hate Muslims, she just thinks they should convert to Christianity or be killed.

Michelle Bachmann is a spongiform soaking up misinformation, fear and religious intolerance. Having that kind of manipulative "leadership" isn't merely reckless, but unconscionable and what has led to the current privatized invasion scenarios. She has zero experience with Muslim from any nation - from where does she form her theological "fear" of Islam? All of the wrong documentaries? It's apparently entirely conceived by Fox News aka The Pentagon, because I highly doubt she reads Salon or Christian Science Monitor.

So far, I appreciate that Ron Paul is acting more visibly in control of attempted topic spin. One argument is why allow anti-Muslim rhetoric or crazy Christian dogma to dictate foreign policy?

#21 | Posted by sully

I used to hate on the Muslims and Pals too for constantly attacking our friends in Israel.

Then the light came on. On 9-11-01 everything changed when I was on a cross country flight that by the grace of God wasn't directed to crash into the Pentagon or WTC. Those other poor souls that did crash were likely in planes controlled by Israeli security at Boston and equipped with GPS guided autopilots installed by those who wanted and would benefit from 9-11.

Israel was the ONLY beneficiary of 9-11 except for Bush. They had the motive and the Muslims didn't. The Muslims paid a price while the Israelis benefited at USA expense. They even danced in NJ. The Mossad made it happen. The ADL made an issue out of 9-11 truthers but only because the truthers were correct.

The owned USA authorities blamed it on OBL and cave dwellers with box cutters. Total BS. There were hired shills and the innocent Americans were the targets and victims, just as were the US sailors intened victims on the USS Liberty, and the victims of the Lavon Affair. These conniving undercover attacks are typical behavior of Israel. Some believe they've even done it to their own people.

So no I don't give a FF about Israel, but only the USA.

"I used to hate on the Muslims and Pals too for constantly attacking our friends in Israel."

I don't think Israel has ever been a good friend to the US.

Having said that, Israel was not responsible for 9/11. I find this kind of deflection dangerous.

conditioned for decades or more to hate Muslims by Hollywood

Lawrence of Arabia ought to be banned.

Bachmann hates mooslims.

1. I am not a Moose.

2. I am not Canadian.

3. I am not a Canadian Moose.

Thank you.

I do like Turks, Persians and Pakis (Tosser excluded!)

WTF did I do NOW?

I am a nice guy. I really am. Honest.

Sheesh....

Their founder's method of spreading their ideology was by the sword

If you see history, NOTHING that has "spread by the sword" has survived for over a thousand years.

Just doesn't happen. Look what happened to the largest Empire the world ever knew (British Raj). Spread by the sword... went to hell, didn't it?

Therefore, Islam has not been "spread by the sword".

All of our actions have consequences but their actions occur in a vacuum.

The only reason you don't find self-criticism in the Islamic world is because much if it isn't in the English language.

But it's there. More than you have, in fact.

And now there will be far more, seeing all these old fart Arab leaders done away with in the "Arab Spring".

I don't hate them but they need to be in Muslim countries

In 50 years, many parts of Europe will be "Muslim countries", with USA well on the same path.

Russia would be 40% Muslim in around 20 years.

What will you say then? LOL

See... this al-Qaeda and Osama... they were crazy idiots. There is NO REASON to fight.

Why fight when you are winning anyway?

Not that I give a shit if the US becomes a Muslim country in a 50-odd years... but those who do give a shit, should be just a little more patient. There really was NO need for pulling that 9-11 crap (assuming if Osama was indeed behind that).

Islam is increasing in the West and in the US.

There isn't shit you can do about it.

But as Wurster said, He dislikes Saudi and North African version (so do I).

What you have to be very careful about is exactly what kind of Islam is headed your way?

Wahabi? God help you then.

Hanfi? You'll get me. LOL

Or "American Islam"? This seems a very innovative version and mix of different islams. Already women can lead prayers in mosque in "American Islam", for example. American-islam Muslims often drink, smoke and fart in public like the rest of you, no problem.

"There is nothing wrong with different version of Islam. In fact it is a blessing".... Mohamed, when told the people of what is now Dubai, do not pray the way 'we' do.

36--If I were to make a list of all the words I might think of for you, Tosser (some of them complimentary), "nice" would not be on it. : )

If I were to make a list of all the words I might think of for you, Tosser (some of them complimentary), "nice" would not be on it. : )

Please try "nice".

It will not stick in throat after 2,3, dozen times. You might even believe it by then.

Nah, it's hard to believe what is patently untrue. : ) Sometimes I like you, and yeah, I think you're pretty bright and well-informed on many topics, but nice? Although I gotta say, you're trying to prove it in that last post. Or at least that you're open-minded or something. Are there other Muslims in your part of the world who feel as you do? Is there a split in Islam like the Orthodox/Reform split in Judaism?

Are there other Muslims in your part of the world who feel as you do?

Of course they do. I am a clone and there are a billion like me.

Ask Bachmann.

Is there a split in Islam like the Orthodox/Reform split in Judaism?

Shia-Sunni.

Otherwise the split isn't that wide... there are over 80 different version of Islam recognized by the Govt. of Pakistan, with "Hanfi" being the major one.

"The only reason you don't find self-criticism in the Islamic world is because much if it isn't in the English language."

I was responding to an American saying that the reason why there are negative feelings towards Islam in the US is that Americans have been brainwashed by our media. People point to the US interfering in the Islamic world as a reason why there is so much anti-Americanism. And I understand that this is a valid criticism. My comment was meant to point out that while that criticism is valid, it also works both ways. It isn't reasonable to expect Americans to have positive feelings towards people who chant "Deatht to America" every day. The same way many Muslims don't like the US because of crimes committed against their part of the world in the name of the US, Americans have negative feelings about that part of the world due to crimes they've committed against us.

I personally don't have anything against Muslims as individuals. I don't know many Muslims but the ones I do know are good people. But I do have negative feelings about cultures who hate me for what I am. Its only natural and the media didn't event this hatred.

"the media didn't event this hatred."

Ah..."invent' is the word. I just woke up.....

It isn't reasonable to expect Americans to have positive feelings towards people who chant "Deatht to America" every day.

Here is an example of how your media does it....

When Iranians shout "Amreeka Murdabaad" (and they don't do it everyday)... the American media translates it as "Death to America".

Some time ago a rally of around 200 people in Pakistan, shouted "Amreeka Murdabaad" and the American media translated it as "Down with America".

Funny, no?

But I do have negative feelings about cultures who hate me for what I am.

One day ... take a trip to Dubai. (for example)

You will see all them Arabs trying to please you. They are rich people... they don't need your money. They just love Americans.

"Of course they do. I am a clone and there are a billion like me."

I didn't insinuate or imply that. You are one of maybe three admitted Muslims on the board, and you often speak as if you know a great deal about Islam, especially as practiced where you live. Asking you was a fair question.

"Ask Bachmann."

She's a moron; I wouldn't ask her for the time.

"Is there a split in Islam like the Orthodox/Reform split in Judaism?
Shia-Sunni."

Really? That's about tradition vs. embracing change/modernity? Really?

"Otherwise the split isn't that wide... there are over 80 different version of Islam recognized by the Govt. of Pakistan, with "Hanfi" being the major one."

That's the sort of information I was looking for. Is there internecine strife or discussion over the differences among those "versions"?

You see, Americans tend to see Islam as some monolithic thing, without irony (Christianity has myriad denominations). It would be good for us to open our eyes. And I'm not too proud to ask a guy who has more knowledge than I do, even if I tease him for not being nice.

you often speak as if you know a great deal about Islam

Because I went to school....

Not a "madressa"... a regular school.

That's about tradition vs. embracing change/modernity?

It was more to do with politics or something.

As for "modernity", Islam can be very modern. Depends on the Muslim.

If you ask an paindoo (Pak hillbilly), "what is Islam", you will of course get an idiot answer.

If you ask me, you will get a much more modern answer.

Is there internecine strife or discussion over the differences among those "versions"?

All the time. Sometimes gentlemanly and scholarly. Sometimes, "time to duck".

If you have enough money in your bank account, the bank will... every year... take a certain amount of money out of your account for the Islamic "poor tax" (zakat).

So that it doesn't happen to me, I have declared myself as "Shia". LOL

They have a different "sharia". Bank can't take money out of their accounts.

This is how "Different Islams are a blessing".

And you are a low brow with a sorely lacking vocabulary

As she hates all people who are not white and conservative...

Her and Ann Coulter were obviously locked in the
"Angry Cage" and were beated or abused when they
were children...

"And you are a low brow with a sorely lacking vocabulary"

"Lowbrow" is one word.

And you are a low brow with a sorely lacking vocabulary

If you are talking to me, let me assure you, I've got more vocabulary than the last 3 of your generations put together.

Ask anyone.

If you want to know more, then please see here:

www.drudge.com

My posts from post 24 onwards.

I will repeat one.
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The problem with Christianity is that it took itself too seriously.

It thought it was a "religion". LOL

Islam is religion, true... but more than that, it was, and it is, meant to be a social reform movement.

By that I mean, it's primary purpose is that the weak should get justice.

On the other hand, in today's world... in USA or in Pakistan.. or wherever... rich people don't really go to jail. Or if they do, they don't stay there.

THAT is what Islam was supposed to fix.

Islam's other job is "economic justice". It is against pure capitalism and exploitation of the worker.

If it sounds like Marxism... there is some similarity, but it also believes in free-trade.

Kanrei's explanation of socialism in a Kibutz system, is spot on.

For example, Islam is against Monopolies. Mohamed made that very clear.

Only a thousand years later did the US and other countries came up with anti-trust laws and broke up monopolies.

An American economist (I think he was American)... Schumpeter (I think that was his name)... made quite a defense of monopolies... arguing that they were a good thing. Every student taking economics in school has to read about "Schumpeter's defense".

But is only to stretch your mind. Modern economics has proven Schumpeter wrong, over and over.
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Thanks for the info, Tosser. (My contrast, tradition vs. modernity, was weakly cast. Sorry about that.)

Given her fundamentalist Christian beliefs and her uber rightwing positions, does anyone doubt that Bachman hates Muslims? Seriously.

her Jesus also hates the Muslims. hate to have her near the red button during "that time of the month"

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