Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Michael Tomasky: How can Barack Obama, as this new NBC/Marist poll has it, be beating Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney in South Carolina, of all places? The leads are narrow -- it's just 45-42 over Romney and 46-42 over Gingrich. ... Is it conceivable that 10 months and three weeks from now, Obama could actually win the state? If it happens, we will know that the Republicans are headed off the cliff. And that is precisely where we should all hope they go.

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I don't know whether Tomasky may be correct or is just fantasizing, but I sure enjoyed reading this opinion piece. One can hope...

All the haters on the right are going to be so upset and foaming at the mouth when Obama wins.

And they have NO ONE but themselves to blame!

The new republican right - seizing defeat from the jaws of victory!

I know many Republicans in my professional circle. Not a single one of them is enthusiastic about the current crop of GOP presidential candidates. With little encouragement they begin ripping into the flaws of each of the wanna-bes.

Don't let them lull you into a false sense of security Dems, the list of present candidates does not hold the name of the nominee. They will keep the race fairly even til the convention then any other name can be brought up after the first ballot, don't be surprised if Jeb Bush steps from behind the curtain. The present candidates are stalking horses set out to bash the President and sell books.

The state’s black voters, about 30 percent of the total, have no such reservations about the Democratic candidate. And his 45 or 46 percent in the new poll suggests he’s getting some white support, tooâ€"more than he got in 2008, arguably, when he won just under 45 percent of the vote against John McCain.

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Fascinating. So the blacks have no reservations about Obama. None whatsoever. They must be doing great.

But what about all those racist whites? Zero is picking up about 20% of those, too, if the number to re-elect is in the mid-forties.

What Obama needs nationwide is for white people and independents to vote for him as blindly as the blacks do. No reservations! No disagreements at all! Gobama! Well, we'll see.

What Obama needs nationwide is for white people and independents to vote for him as blindly as the blacks do. No reservations! No disagreements at all!

#5 | Posted by rightisright

The point being: Newt needs this exact same thing, and it would be more than a little bit weird if many of them didn't just decide to piss on him.

"But now lets look at the Florida numbers from the NBC/Marist poll. There Obama is beating both Romney and Gingrich by outside the margin of error. He leads Romney 48-41 and Gingrich 51-39."

In a state that really does matter outside the symbolics of SC.

The author postulates a RLC... moderate Republican Leadership Council forming in the wake of another embarrassing Presidential Beatdown for the GOP, not unlike the formation of the DNC in 1985.

That would be a step forward, indeed, and something the mostly silent moderate Republicans may be willing to sit on their hands for this time.


I know many Republicans in my professional circle. Not a single one of them is enthusiastic about the current crop of GOP presidential candidates. With little encouragement they begin ripping into the flaws of each of the wanna-bes.

#3 | Posted by moder8

I think Huntsman would likely be a good president.

I think Romney would likely be an OK president during a time where brutal-honesty regarding our unfunded entitlement liabilities (among other things) is paramount. Romney would likely be a status-quo guy when our future rests upon the need for a candidate who can not only articulate the unsustainable problems our leviathan-government both faces-and-creates AND offers solutions grounded in Constitutional limitations of those very powers.

I won't hold my breath.

All of the other GOP candidates pretty much suck ass, including Gingrich. Newt could potentially be a formidable Sec-of-State and that is about the extent of his capabilities IMO.

Whilst he still exceeds Obama on just about every aspect of the Executive Branch - that is not a good reason, by itself, to vote him in.

Wow, you guys are really wishing on a star. Obama doesnt have a chance. When the U/E rate goes back up to 9+% after the holidays and his lack of leadership becomes plainly into view, it will be a landslide alright.

Obama doesnt have a chance.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2011-12-13 06:02 PM | Reply |

Neither does Newt. This is what's going to make next November interesting.

Frankly, I'd be almost as glad if you folks nominated Mitt afterall. It would be worth it to see Erik Erikson go into status epilepticus.

Keep telling yourself that Boaz.

lol

-The present candidates are stalking horses set out to bash the President and sell books.

I read the other day that Sarah Palin's new reality show offering about Todd's racing is being turned down, so she may still thrill the Republican faithful by joining in.

But seriously, I don't think Jeb or Christie are coming in.... still to much economic hard werk to do... so the Right has Mitt, who cannot get more than 25 percent of his own Party in the primaries, and Newt who the Obama campaign would love to watch self-implode as the candidate.

No wonder SC could be in play!

I've decided that predicting the race this early is stupid. Anyone stating firmly that one side or the other will win has no basis for doing so. Literally half of you will be wrong.

Literally half of you will be wrong.

#14 | Posted by JOE

Figuratively, all of you will be screwed.

History tends to repeat itself, and no president with a misery index as we have today has ever been re-elected, 2nd only one president has been re-elected with a bad economy.

That said Obama has already beaten history once (his election), can he do it a 2nd time? Will know after Nov 2012 election.

Wow an lib cirlc jerk, You kids clean up and turn out the lights on your way out.

Oh, before you start the heavy breathing you might want to browse this article. Chris makes some reaches and its still close.

On electoral map, Obama still has routes to victory in 2012, despite low ratings

www.washingtonpost.com

That must be WHY you call our country Obamaville! Eh asshole?

What a pleasure it is to watch Danni skull fuck you, Neo Nazi.

What a pleasure it is to watch Danni skull fuck you, Neo Nazi.

#18 | Posted by Monstman

So you admit she has a dick. Something you want to share, pin cushion?

I am already beginning to wonder just how ugly this upcoming campaign cycle is going to be here on the DR. If, as seems possible, President Obama does win an easy reelection, how much unbridled hatred and abuse from rightwingers will the rest of us have to put up with? Cuz given the current level of hate filled rightwing rage and invective, I suspect the build-up to November 2012 is gonna be a lot uglier than the build up to November 2008 was.

(Having written that, I wish Monstman had not just written a post accusing Paneocon of being a Neo-Nazi and an asshole, and wishing him a good skull-fucking. lol.)

#18 | Posted by Monstman

Article cut a little close to home. But hey it's all about jobs, just ask Barry, he started working on jobs two years into his presidency because it was his top priority.

It hardly matters what face they put in front of a political system gone mad.

Yup, Obama is vulnerable. Hasn't given us much change, and damned little hope. But he will carry 45 states anyway, because uglies would rather bad-mouth him than create a credible candidate of their own. herm

I am already beginning to wonder just how ugly this upcoming campaign cycle is going to be here on the DR

Not as ugly as Michelle Antoinette is going to be when she has to deal with the fact that the free ride and expensive vacations are over.

But there's always Chicago . . . .

President Obama does win an easy reelection, how much unbridled hatred and abuse from rightwingers will the rest of us have to put up with? Cuz given the current level of hate filled rightwing rage and invective,

M8 is in a rage every time he posts. Methinks he's projecting his own rage on the Right.

If, as seems possible, President Obama does win an easy reelection, how much unbridled hatred and abuse from rightwingers will the rest of us have to put up with?
Posted by moder8

Your predictions are about as trustworthy as when you wife predicts an early or late sping.

M8 is in a rage every time he posts. Methinks he's projecting his own rage on the Right.

#25 | Posted by Ray

Really? I'm full of rage? Like hell I am!!! Go fuck yourself asswipe! I'm gonna hunt you down, chop your balls off, rip your head off, and then shove your corpse through a wood chipper.

#27 | POSTED BY MODER8

Pity the Republicans if the Dems lose. LOL

ModerH8 whines too much to have time for rage

M8

Being a lawyer and extreme leftwinger, any thoughts on the 2012 National Defense and Authorization Act which authorizes the military to arrest terrorist suspects on American soil? I expect Obama to sign it if it reaches his desk.

How can Barack Obama, as this new NBC/Marist poll has it, be beating Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney in South Carolina, of all places?

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Easy: They both suck - most people would rather vote for Ron Paul. The GOP extremists who carry the Rep cards and vote those primaries are more extreme and the MSM has $ against him. So basically the fix is in. Ron Paul may still win if he goes independent - or if everyone writes him in anyway. Oh and as pols go, Ron Paul kicks Obama's ass.

M8

Being a lawyer and extreme leftwinger, any thoughts on the 2012 National Defense and Authorization Act which authorizes the military to arrest terrorist suspects on American soil? I expect Obama to sign it if it reaches his desk.

Let me draft Moder8's response for him:

If Obama signs the 2012 NDAA, I will consider it one of his failures. However, I still believe that he is a far better President than the alternative that was available in 2008 and that he is still doing a great job overall. We shouldn't let small things like martial law get in the way of the bigger picture.

If, as seems possible, President Obama does win an easy reelection, how much unbridled hatred and abuse from rightwingers will the rest of us have to put up with?
Posted by moder8

probably no more than usual.

but it pales in comparison to what the rest of us will have to read coming from the left if he loses.

Let's preview a few.....

"This country is finished!"
"This country is nothing but a bunch of fucking racist rednecks"
"The GOP perpetrated voter fraud in Ohio and Florida"
"Poor Obama...I am so sorry for him"
"Just watch this new guy fuck everything up. Everything was just going peachy until Obama got thrown out"

now, if Obama loses (I don't think he will) this list is but a very small sample of what you will read....but 100% of what I posted will get repeated at least 1,000 times.

The meltdowns will be something to watch.

If President Obama loses, it will not be due to the strengths of the GOP, but rather his own weaknesses.

I'll go along with that Moder8. It's his race to lose....unless something completely out of his control happens.

If President Obama loses, it will not be due to the strengths of the GOP, but rather his own weaknesses.
#34 | POSTED BY MODER8

Of course. Politics operates in a reverse world. Selection based on: The least evil. The least incompetent. The most convincing liar. And so on and so on.

I am already beginning to wonder just how ugly this upcoming campaign cycle is going to be here on the DR

Not as ugly as Michelle Antoinette is going to be when she has to deal with the fact that the free ride and expensive vacations are over.

But there's always Chicago . . . .

#24 | Posted by goatman at 2011-12-13 07:05 PM | Reply

This is exactly why you will lose. You focus on bullshit and it's party-wide.

This is exactly why you will lose.

Um, actually the reason I will "lose" (not be the next president) is because i am not running.

Fresno, I think you over-simplify. The reasons the GOP will not win the White House are many. First and foremost is their failure (thus far at least) to find a mainstream conservative capable of winning their Parties nomination. Second, President Obama is an intelligent, articulate and likable man - which counts a lot among the general electorate. Third, the general perception is that the GOP has done everything within its power to thwart every move this President has made to improve the economy. Voters will remember that come next Election Day.
Personally, I am still interested to see how the GOP will get itself out of the box it has painted itself into by opposing the proposed Obama payroll tax cut extension.

Jesus Christ, Fresno. You stepped right into that one.

The reasons the GOP will not win the White House are many.

The reason they will win is one:

Obama

Funny how Moder8 can't explain a 43% approval rating, but constantly claims an Obama victory. Stupid is all I can come up with.

"The meltdowns will be something to watch."

Very true. And the results of the election will not change that in the slightest.

The election merely decides who the meltees will be. Regardless of who wins, it will be "the best thing (in the long run) that could have happened" for whoever loses. The losers will be spitting with rage the very next morning since every campaign promise has not yet been completed.

I wonder if the voting will be even finished before the "wait until 2016!!" screeching starts?

The fact that you cannot understand how a 43% approval rating in December '11 can result in a victory over a less appealing opponent in in November '12 only reinforces the fact that your Partisan lenses are so covered in spittle that nobody addresses serious comments in your direction. (Now, run along back to the Nooner where you can pump yourself up by insulting anonymous strangers. Thatsa good boy.)

Posted by goatmam at 2011-12-13 08:41 PM | Reply

who?

You still can't pass elementary physics from 1700, shitstain.

1824
Fourier calculates that the Earth would be far colder if it lacked an atmosphere.

www.aip.org

The only reason I even bothered to vote for OhShitForBrains is that the idea of an idiot like Palin was so horrific it eclipsed the entertainment value of voting for Lyndon Larouche.

...your Partisan lenses are so covered in spittle ...

I'm afraid to ask what yours are covered with, moderH8

You still can't pass elementary physics from 1700, shitstain.

Unlike you, at least I don't pretend I can, purchaser-of-microsoft-stock-
in-1977.

Posers suck.

"purchaser-of-microsoft-stock-
in-1977."

Lie much loser?

(Now, run along back to the Nooner where you can pump yourself up by insulting anonymous strangers. Thatsa good boy.)

#44 | Posted by moder8

What's the matter Old Man? Don't like the fact that 57% of this Country thinks your boy is a 3 year fuckup? I'm sure it will only get better after the Seasonal Xmas hires are let go.

Posers suck.

#47 | Posted by goatman at 2011-12-13 08:58 PM | Reply | Flag: irony

www.archaeology.org

DIAF shitstain.
Your idiot buddies are good at it.

Fresno, I think you over-simplify. The reasons the GOP will not win the White House are many. First and foremost is their failure (thus far at least) to find a mainstream conservative capable of winning their Parties nomination. Second, President Obama is an intelligent, articulate and likable man - which counts a lot among the general electorate. Third, the general perception is that the GOP has done everything within its power to thwart every move this President has made to improve the economy. Voters will remember that come next Election Day.
Personally, I am still interested to see how the GOP will get itself out of the box it has painted itself into by opposing the proposed Obama payroll tax cut extension.

Thier complete failure as a party to develop an articulate popular alternative to the DEMS message is the reason. Instead they specialize in innuendo, outright lies, of course what most practice here the standard ad hominem. I stand by my orginal statement.

Your idiot buddies are good at it.

Just because you claim you made Willie Nelson famous doesn't mean you are a buddy of mine, poser.

Lie much loser?

Nope.

Tell us more about how to buy stock before it goes public, zat so that we can all be neato spiffy cool like you.

LOL

Lie much, zat?

1st house: 1971 $1 down, 7% fixed, $20,000.

Sold in 1977 and bought waterfront 1,200 square foot house with a dock on Lake Travis for $15,000 cash. Bought Microsoft with some of the rest.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2007-08-09 09:41 PM | Reply

LOL. Zat, do you have a burning permit for those pants of yours?

Goatee makes Fossil look stoopid... again. LOL

Coffin-Dodger... did you get castrated at some point that you just have to claim to be a scientist of all things?

Why not claim to be a plumber? Or fishmonger?

They make better money.

If it's Romney Obama will win like Bush over Kerry.

If any of those other nutters get the nom it'll look more like Reagan versus Carter.

It'll prolly be Romney.

The guy spent 110 million last time out and 45 mil of that was his own coin.

This time he's spending more.

Those who know how to read the right have been seeing and saying for a while now that Mitt is the GOP establishments preferred candidate. It's his turn, so to speak.

Iowa is meaningless except in terms of telling us what flavor of the month the evangelicals have picked this time out.

Be Well.

Iowa is meaningless ...

But you pretend your prognostications are meaningful.

I got a good chuckle out of that one. LOL

When you rob from Peter to pay Paul you can always count on the support of Paul.

"But seriously, I don't think Jeb or Christie are coming in.... still to much economic hard werk to do... so the Right has Mitt, who cannot get more than 25 percent of his own Party in the primaries, and Newt who the Obama campaign would love to watch self-implode as the candidate."

Valid opinion, we'll have to wait and watch it all play out. It will be an interesting year. My guess about Jeb Bush is just a thought that's been waking me up at night. It's hard to go back to sleep after that nightmare.

"Jeb Bush"

No.

You better hope that Obama does not get re-elected otherwise he will bankrupt the country. It amazes me how uninformed the left is, they have zero concept of budgeting and apparently never balance a check book. We cannot pay for al the giveaways he has already passed and the republicans are the only ones that seem to understand that. Is it a requirement for th eleft to skip any and all economics classes in school? It appears that way.

As for the author of the article, he has his head in a dark warm place. The independent vote is where the elections are won and lost. Independents have deserted the spendthrift in droves. Obama has failed miserably in foreign policy, lets ask Iran nice nice to return our drone, like that would ever happen. Unemployment is sky high, and if you think it is coming down you have forgotten the thousands that have temporary holiday jobs that will be back at the unemployment office next month. You left wingers need to wake up!

I am still interested to see how the GOP will get itself out of the box it has painted itself into by opposing the proposed Obama payroll tax cut extension.

I'll admit I'm not really paying attention on that issue. Am I missing something? I thought the GOP just passed the payroll tax cut extension and that Obama is opposing it. Can someone please clarify?

Can someone please clarify?
#63 | Posted by JOE

Sure: it's got more than an extension of the payroll tax cut in it and if Obama signs it (assuming it passes the Senate), then more swings into effect than extending the payroll tax cut extension. And that "more" is the sticking point.

It's just another example of our grossly fucked up system.

What is the "more?"

What does it have in it that's so offensive? An oil pipeline provision? Oh, that's right. Everyone in America has a job so why start something we can't finish.

What is the "more?"

#65 | Posted by JOE at 2011-12-14 09:48 AM

They're sticking the pipeline issue in with it.

House Republicans are pushing a bill to continue a payroll tax cut for 160 million workers while also forcing work on a controversial oil pipeline over White House objections. The House is expected to approve the roughly $180 billion legislation Tuesday. President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D) oppose the pipeline provision. Obama said in November he was delaying a decision on the 1,700-mile pipeline, slated to run from Alberta, Canada, to Texas.

www.drudge.com

I'm sure delaying the decision has nothing to do with the upcoming election.

What is the "more?"
#65 | Posted by JOE

"House Republicans jammed through a version of the payroll tax bill Tuesday evening that calls for construction of the controversial Keystone KL oil pipeline, scales back an air-pollution rule, cuts Obama's health reform law and reduces the length of unemployment benefits. It was largely a message vote -- the GOP bill is dead on arrival in the Democratic Senate and faced a veto threat anyway -- but it sets the stage again for a final, frenzied bout of deal making that has defined this divided Congress."
www.politico.com

I'd say that's considerably more than a straightforward payroll tax bill.

Some Republicans and Democrats say if Boehner drops the Keystone issue and Reid gets rid of his millionaires’ surtax, an agreeement would be imminent.

Asked whether he’d be willing to scrap the millionaries surtax, Reid told POLITICO on Tuesday, not now.

Certainly not straightforward. But since I support the pipeline project, I think Obama is wrong here. His own state department found that "that the proposed pipeline would have little adverse impact on the environment" and that "alternative routes would do little, if anything, to lessen its overall environmental impact." www.omaha.com

I don't think a landslide is possible with today's polarized electorate. But Obama's campaign strength is being overlooked by a lot of pundits. You know who has the largest organization in Iowa right now? Obama. He has eight offices in the state. By comparison, Gingrich opened his first office last week.

You know who has the largest organization in Iowa right now? Obama. He has eight offices in the state. By comparison, Gingrich opened his first office last week.

There might be some folks (mainly independents) out there more interested in booting out Obama than numbers of offices each candidate has. The hard core democrats will stick with the office strategy, I'm sure.

Besides, Gingrich is not running against Obama in the primaries, so what do their respective number of offices in Iowa have to do with anything?

You know who has the largest organization in Iowa right now? Obama.

He's not being challenged in a primary, so what good is Iowa to him? He won that state by over 9% in 2008.

He's not being challenged in a primary, so what good is Iowa to him?

Obama is building a strong campaign organization in all 50 states. That's how he beat Hillary Clinton in 2008 -- he outlasted her by outworking her -- and how he'll probably beat the Republican next year.

Second, President Obama is an intelligent, articulate and likable man - which counts a lot among the general electorate.

As opposed to a competent, patriotic and get things done president? I see your point.

Rodgers,

You probably said the same thing about Carter this time in relation to Reagan....You know how that turned out LOL....

Obama is building a strong campaign organization in all 50 states.

no he isn't. He's stupid if he does.

do you think he is going to "build a strong campaign" in Kansas and Oklahoma?

I'd punt those states and worry about the ones in play.

"Obama. He has eight offices in the state. By comparison, Gingrich opened his first office last week." - RCade

Looking at the Obama site, they are OrganizingForAmerica addresses which are DNC offices. I am sure there is co-mingling of DNC and Obama offices.

I have heard Obama excitement on college campuses is down, these people being fans of his 4 years ago. This NPR story kind of confirms it. The media made a big deal about energy from campuses and the volunteers it brought out. I don't think that magic will happen this year.

www.npr.org

You probably said the same thing about Carter this time in relation to Reagan.

Carter was never the campaigner or fundraiser that Obama is. He didn't have the web, which makes mobilizing a million donors and small volunteers possible.

do you think he is going to "build a strong campaign" in Kansas and Oklahoma?

Yes. He'll have people phone banking and knocking on doors in all 50 states. He can afford to do it because of the money he'll raise.

I don't think that magic will happen this year.

It won't, but given the Republican field this year, I don't think he'll need magic.

-because of the money he'll raise.

A record 45 percent of which is from donors of $200 or less, while Romney gets only 8 percent of his money in small donations.

Yes. He'll have people phone banking and knocking on doors in all 50 states.

he won't spend any time nor will spend any real money in Kansas.

I won't see a single ad run. Some folks in NE Kansas will as I expect Obama to spend some $$$$ for Missouri and the KC market will spill over.

But that's about it. nothing more.

lol, someone has quipped that the only way Obama will win reelection is if he runs against a Republican.

sayanythingblog.com

#81 | Posted by rcade at 2011-12-14 11:43 AM | Reply | Flag: should be embarrased at the constant brown-nosing being done by a few cheerleaders

-A record 45 percent of which is from donors of $200 or less,

"if you can't drink their whiskey and screw their women and vote against them, you shouldn't be here"

-Jesse "Corky" Unruh

"South Carolina??? Does ANYONE on this thread believe for one moment that Obama can carry South Carolina? If so, Ihave a great piece of land a few miles East of Charleston I'd like to sell you. South Carolina will go red...the real battle will take place in the swing states and it don't look good for the Obamessiah there either.

"Since the heady days of 2008, a new USA TODAY/Gallup Swing States Poll finds the number of voters who identify themselves as Democratic or Democratic-leaning in these key states has eroded, down by 4 percentage points, while the ranks of Republicans have climbed by 5 points."

"But the nation's ideological makeup creates more stress for Democrats than Republicans. In the 12 swing states identified by USA TODAY, 44% of those surveyed are conservatives, more than double the 21% who call themselves liberal."

www.usatoday.com


More evidence that SANE people are fed up with big government and everything that goes with it...

"Americans’ fear of big government - partly fueled by a sharp spike among Democrats since President Barack Obama took office - almost reached a record high this year and is far greater than people’s concerns about big business and big labor, a new Gallup poll Monday shows.

An overwhelming 64 percent of people surveyed said big government was the biggest threat to the country, compared to just 26 percent who said big business is their gravest concern and 8 percent who picked big labor."

"Republicans are most wary of the threat of big government than are Democrats or independents â€" 82 percent of GOPers said big government was the biggest threat to the nation, compared to 64 percent of independents and 48 percent of Democrats who said the same.

The percentage of Democrats who said big government was the most significant threat to the U.S., 48 percent, has seen a notable climb since 2009, when 32 percent of the political party said big government was the most dangerous to the country’s well-being."

www.politico.com


All these stats taken along with dissatisfaction over ObamaCare, (except danni, of course) the economy and other issues don't bode well for the Great Community Organizer and Race Healer. There may be an Obama landslide, but it won't be the kind he will like.

Yes. He'll have people phone banking and knocking on doors in all 50 states. He can afford to do it because of the money he'll raise.

#80 | Posted by rcade

See? Less unemployment. -Debbie Wasserman-Schultz

For a guy who the Lefty DR Talking heads claim is going to waltz into a 2nd term, why the need for this?

The Obama presidential campaign is launching an effort to collect Republican email addresses by inviting its supporters to submit information about their Republican associates to the Obama 2012 website.

The effort could help the Obama campaign build a database that would enable it to target Republican voters during the general election campaign. But, more perniciously, it could also become part of an Democratic effort to influence Republican primary voters to select a candidate Democrats think Obama could most easily defeat.

www.whitehousedossier.com

"Yes. He'll have people phone banking and knocking on doors in all 50 states. He can afford to do it because of the money he'll raise."

They may have to include the OTHER seven states too RCade...LOL!

"President Obama and his re-election team have prided themselves on their well-oiled get-out-the-vote effort. But a new study from the centrist think tank Third Way suggests Democrats are losing ground organizationally in nearly all of the key battleground states in the general election.

The group's analysis found that, in the eight politically-pivotal states that register voters by party, a significant number have left the Democratic party since 2008, with many choosing to register as independents. Over 825,000 registered Democrats in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina and Pennsylvania have departed the party rolls since President Obama's election in 2008, a much more significant share than the number of Republicans (378,000) who have done the same. Meanwhile, the number of registered independents has ticked upwards by 254,000.

In every one of the eight battleground states, Democrats lost ground to Republicans. (In Colorado, Republicans saw a larger rate of growth in voter registration than Democrats, 1.8 to 0.9 percent.)

The report underscores how much different 2012 will be for Obama than 2008. Back then, it was commonplace to hear how many new voters the Obama campaign was registering. Now, it looks like some of those voters, newly disenchanted, are leaving the party rolls."

What I will be interested in seeing the level of turnout in '12 compared to '08. Enthusiasm on both the Left and Right seem far diminished from four years ago.

The only passion that has increased is the level of unmitigated vitriolic hate spewed by extremists on both sides. Ironically, future historians will probably consider President Obama to have been a pretty good (not great and not awful) President who guided us through an economic storm created by others.

That is the determining factor and all polling is meaningless. What people intend to do means nothing compared to what they actually do. Myself included. I won't honestly know if I will or won't vote for obama until I do or don't do it. Everything else is theory.

Enthusiasm on both the Left and Right seem far diminished from four years ago.

that's becuause you are really going back 3 years instead of 4.

all this predicting the outcome of a game that hasn't even started yet is fun....but is pretty much meaningless.

The only thing worth keeping score of at this point is the $$$$ and where it's flowing and based on that, I would give the advantage to Obama....but we'll revisit this issue about 120 days after the primary is decided.

"What I will be interested in seeing the level of turnout in '12 compared to '08. Enthusiasm on both the Left and Right seem far diminished from four years ago."

Yeah, unlike the voter turnout in last years primaries leading to the GOP landslides. Of course the same idiot who opened this useless thread also predicted the Tbaggers would fizzle back in 2009...

Not sure what desperate measures dems are going to take to improve on their beating they took last November. The car in the ditch was pretty much proof of the best they can do. No Bush, no Cheney, no Iraq, no history of guilt...

"Not sure what desperate measures dems are going to take to improve on their beating they took last November."

They're going to let the GOP nominate its own candidate.

That seems to be enough.

That seems to be enough.
#96 | Posted by Danforth at 2011-12-14 12:50 PM |

To shortsighted fools who were stupid enough to vote for Obama because he spoke well, I am not surprised that is the best you can come up with. Nor would I be surprised many of the same fools wouldn't double down on stupidity and want to re-elect the Barker in Chief next year.

In a related story 80 students walked out of Harvard's Economics 10 class (required by 60% of its students to graduate), because Professor Greg Mankiw is teaching bullshit, such as Harvard's janitors are not entitled to a living wage.

The Rethugs talk and legislate from an ivory tower.

"Nor would I be surprised many of the same fools wouldn't double down on stupidity and want to re-elect the Barker in Chief next year."

And which idiot do you plan to prop up against him? Newt? Mitt? Or are you still a Cain supporter?

"I won't honestly know if I will or won't vote for obama until I do or don't do it. Everything else is theory."

That seems to be not uncommon. On the other hand, those so adamantly opposed to him and his big government, big spending, big regulation policies are motivated to go to the polls and vote AGAINST him. The "most likely" voters are tracked daily by Rasmussen and the percentage of those who "strongly disapprove" have outnumbered those who "strongly approve" by double digits for many months now. I think these numbers are more reliable than most. The election is still a year away though.

And which idiot do you plan to prop up against him? Newt? Mitt? Or are you still a Cain supporter?
Posted by Danforth at 2011-12-14 12:58 PM |

Regardless of which candidate runs, you and the rest of the morons who voted for Obama are inclined to double down on stupidity and try to re-elect him. Going from liking his speech to hating his opponents is fucking briliant...

"To shortsighted fools who were stupid enough to vote for Obama because he spoke well, I am not surprised that is the best you can come up with."

Danfart isn't a fool...he skipped third grade, you know. Or maybe it was fourth grade, I forget. On second thought...maybe he should go back and review the first eight grades or so.

"Regardless of which candidate runs, you and the rest of the morons who voted for Obama are inclined to double down on stupidity and try to re-elect him. "

I'm on record supporting Huntsman. Trouble is, he's an adult, which completely eliminates him from competition.

Of course, speaking of stupidity, you're willing to vote for the folks who fucked things up in the first place, just because they're on your "team".

Here is what the republicans are proposing, the president wants the continue of the tax cuts, the republicans want the pipeline from Canada to create jobs and lessen our dependence on arab oil. Harry Reid says it is dead on arrival in the senate and the president said he will veto it if it passes.

So liberals if the president is so hell bent on creating jobs why would he threaten to veto this bill? If you are a democrat senator running for elections do you vote against it? This should be very interesting.

From the little I know of Huntsman, he would be awesome, but I haven't looked at him too close as he never really stood a chance in Hell.

"he skipped third grade, you know. Or maybe it was fourth grade, I forget. On second thought...maybe he should go back and review the first eight grades or so."

I've posted it multiple times; I guess your memory is completely shot.

Maybe you could repost, for the 1,000th time, how no Democrat has won re-election without Perot's help since the dawn of time. That probably seems fresh to you every time, so I guess your Alzheimers has a benefit.

"Of course, speaking of stupidity, you're willing to vote for the folks who fucked things up in the first place, just because they're on your "team"."

Drunk again already danforth? I would never vote for the F team of democrats who fucked it up. Why you insist on thinking Nancy Pelosi and the dems should get back all three Houses is laughable.

"I haven't looked at him too close as he never really stood a chance in Hell."

He will after NH. He'll surprise a lot of people there.

He's intelligent, he's measured, he understands China, and he's willing to work with the enemy (read: Ds) to get things done. Again, the one adult in the room: no wonder the crazies aren't paying any attention.

Dan,

When he first announced, I looked him up and was psyched he was running. Then I realized about 30 seconds later an Obama appointee has zero chance in today's GOP.

"Danfart isn't a fool...he skipped third grade, you know. Or maybe it was fourth grade, I forget. On second thought...maybe he should go back and review the first eight grades or so."

I doubt he wants to remember having his ass kicked daily...

"Drunk again already danforth? I would never vote for the F team of democrats who fucked it up."

Oh, that pretense again.

"Why you insist on thinking Nancy Pelosi and the dems should get back all three Houses is laughable."

Why you move the goalposts with almost every screed is the real laughable one. Where did I say Dems and Pelosi should get back control? Oh, that's right...in your head.

Wesley Clarke or Howard Dean should have run against Bush and they would have won. Kerry was a joke.

I think the same thing will happen in 2012: a beatable President will be handed re-election by a party playing it too safe.

"...such as Harvard's janitors are not entitled to a living wage."

NutBag thinks janitors should be paid as much as college professors...ol' Doc_Sorrivis is gonna be pissed when he reads THIS. I wonder if NutSac thinks burger flippers at Wendys should be paid as much as computer technicians.
NutCase...pick up a textbook for Econ 101 and study up on how the law of supply and demand applies to the labor market as much as it does to goods.

I am against the Patriot Act
I am against war in Afganistan
I am against the DEA
I am against Banker bailouts
I am against Corporate bailouts

I will vote against Obama who has displayed to the world that he is supportive of these things. I will vote for Ron Paul in 2012.

Huntsman? That's the guy running for VP, right?

Danforth,
I am going to try to have an intelligent discussion with you a liberal. Try real hard to follow this, no morons, or stupids or other general terms, tell perhaps in five points, what is it the republicans want that upset you and why. Now that would normally not be too hard but for a liberal I want to see if you are capable of critical, intellegent thinking.

What I am trying to do is dispell untruths and explain, albeit in simple terms, explain why it is the way it is. Come on Danforth give it a try.

In the eyes of general electorate, Howard Dean was a bigger joke. And Wesley Clarke never had any traction whatsoever, - even against a weak field, and even among moderate to conservative Democrats..

Well Dirk by voting for Paul you cast a vote for Obama.

"I've posted it multiple times; I guess your memory is completely shot."

Naw...it's just that I tend to ignore your rambling bullshit, wild claims, "accomplishments," and delusions of grandeur. It's OK, I still like ya' though.

"I doubt he wants to remember having his ass kicked daily..."

Funny story:

My little brother and I were huge fans of wrestling...you know, that fakey stuff back in the days of Edoward Carpantier and the likes. So one day, I noticed an older kid bullying a classmate of mine. I pushed him away, and he came at me. Without thinking, I shoved out my hip, flipped him over, and held him down. It may have been the surprise of someone fighting back, or I may have just knocked the wind out of him, but he was clearly shaken, and never bothered us again. I also got an accidental cool rep.

For the record, offered to skip 2nd (passed), offered to skip 8th (did), in a program to skip 13th (passed in favor of a conservatory program).

I am against the Patriot Act
I am against war in Afganistan
I am against the DEA
I am against Banker bailouts
I am against Corporate bailouts

I will vote against Obama who has displayed to the world that he is supportive of these things. I will vote for Ron Paul in 2012.

Sorry? Still figuring out this iPad?

"it's just that I tend to ignore your rambling bullshit, wild claims, "accomplishments," and delusions of grandeur. "

All true.

Of course, if you're convinced they're not, now's the time to make some real money betting me on them.


Sorry? Still figuring out this iPad?

#122 | Posted by Dirk at 2011-12-14 01:21 PM

It is hard to type on at first. Had mine a little over a week and still screwing up.

Get teh Garage Band app btw.

"tell perhaps in five points, what is it the republicans want that upset you and why. "

1. They altered the ship of state from surplus budget projections to nothing but deficits.

2. They shamelessly used gay bashing as a campaign strategy.

3. They have no problem paying for wealthy tax cuts on the backs of the middle class.

4. They're not worried about deficits, until the other guy gets in power.

5. They've refused to take even the smallest modicum of responsibility for the financial meltdown and the resulting shit sandwich handed off.

6. Scalia, and his ideas of America as a legal Brigadoon are dangerous for our country.

There are more....

In a related story 80 students walked out of Harvard's Economics 10 class (required by 60% of its students to graduate), because Professor Greg Mankiw is teaching bullshit, such as Harvard's janitors are not entitled to a living wage.
The Rethugs talk and legislate from an ivory tower.

#98 | POSTED BY NUTCASE AT 2011-12-14 12:57 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Please tell me where in the United States Constitution Harvard Janitors are "entitled" to anything? In fact please show me where in that rule of law the word "entitled" is used.

"...that would normally not be too hard but for a liberal I want to see if you are capable of critical, intellegent thinking."

It's spelled intelligent.

Get teh Garage Band app btw.

#124 | POSTED BY KANREI AT 2011-12-14 01:22 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Thanks for the info

"Without thinking, I shoved out my hip, flipped him over, and held him down. It may have been the surprise of someone fighting back, or I may have just knocked the wind out of him, but he was clearly shaken, and never bothered us again. I also got an accidental cool rep."

See my comment about "claims" and "accomplishments"

"For the record, offered to skip 2nd (passed), offered to skip 8th (did), in a program to skip 13th (passed in favor of a conservatory program)."

See my comment about "claims" and "accomplishments."

I'm gonna have to file these with all the claims about being a reknown actor, tax consultant with over 300 clients, financial expert handling over a billion dollars and a union rep serving three (not one, not two, but THREE) unions.

"See my comment about "claims" and "accomplishments""

Why? Jealous?

"See my comment about "claims" and "accomplishments.""

See my offer about betting you they're all true. What do you say, Jest, a little Mittsie Bet? $10,000?

"I'm gonna have to file these with all the claims about being a reknown actor, tax consultant with over 300 clients, financial expert handling over a billion dollars and a union rep serving three (not one, not two, but THREE) unions."

Then I'll have to double down on my offer of a wager. C'mon, old man...if you win, you could buy enough Depends to last you a whole YEAR!

(BTW, I never said "reknown" actor...that would be you. And last time I looked, AEA, AFTRA, and SAG were three Unions)

"All true.

Of course, if you're convinced they're not, now's the time to make some real money betting me on them."

LOL...now Danfart thinks he's Romney. Well, Danny, I can be sure the part about "delusions of grandeur" is true...you crack me up.

"Well, Danny, I can be sure the part about "delusions of grandeur" is true"

Laughable. If you could "be sure", you'd bet me in a heartbeat. Instead, all you're left with is jealousy.

BTW...Nicole Kidman smells great.

"He's intelligent, he's measured, he understands China, and he's willing to work with the enemy (read: Ds) to get things done."

Like what support a wheezing dying entitlement system with chewing gum and string? BTW can we have our spy drone back? hahahahaha

Well Dirk by voting for Paul you cast a vote for Obama.

#118 | POSTED BY GTJR AT 2011-12-14 01:19 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Not at all. Ron Paul can beat Obama. Ron Paul has the ability to cross over party lines and capture those on the left who are disenchanted with the growing Federal Government that has taken place under both the Establishment GOP and more recently Obama.

Newt and Romney would simply be the bread of Obamas shit sandwich.

"(BTW, I never said "reknown" actor...that would be you. And last time I looked, AEA, AFTRA, and SAG were three Unions)"

All that shit is boring...but you COULD tell us all about those billions of dollars you handle for all those clients. Did you invest any with Corzine in MF Global? Nawwww...you're way too smart for that, right?

"you COULD tell us all about those billions of dollars you handle for all those clients."

Ah, mixing parts of the story, huh? That's one of the signs of mental deterioration.

From the little I know of Huntsman, he would be awesome, but I haven't looked at him too close as he never really stood a chance in Hell.

Neither did Newt or Cain at one time, this game isnt over. I will take a serious look at Huntsman...

"For the record, offered to skip 2nd (passed), offered to skip 8th (did), in a program to skip 13th (passed in favor of a conservatory program)."

Before I call you an idiot for saying there is a 13th grade and become an idiot myself, could you explain please?

"Before I call you an idiot for saying there is a 13th grade and become an idiot myself, could you explain please?"

The HS curriculum included AP courses, designed to cover for what would have been freshman year in college, aka 13th grade.

"BTW...Nicole Kidman smells great."

Maybe she can help you get that leading role as the bottom man in the sequel to Brokeback Mountain. Have they ever decided to name it Reachback Ridge or is it going to be Sore in the Saddle?


"Before I call you an idiot for saying there is a 13th grade and become an idiot myself, could you explain please?"

The HS curriculum included AP courses, designed to cover for what would have been freshman year in college, aka 13th grade.

Posted by Danforth at 2011-12-14 01:46 PM |

LOL! I was trying to think of a way to ask that same thing without appearing stupid.

"Maybe she can help you get that leading role as the bottom man in the sequel to Brokeback Mountain."

You've got a real obsession with that movie. What is this, the 200th time you've brought it up?

"Have they ever decided to name it Reachback Ridge or is it going to be Sore in the Saddle? "

Well, maybe they should put it to a vote: what do YOU call it when the orderly is doing it to you?

"Before I call you an idiot for saying there is a 13th grade and become an idiot myself, could you explain please?"

Listen, I gotta go but maybe you can get him to also explain how he handles all these acting roles with Nicole Kidman, serves over 300 tax clients, invests billions of dollars for financial clients and represents THREE unions. He must be a real whiz because he does all that in such a manner to also have many hours to entertain us here on the DR. On top of everything else, he's gotta be on hell of a GREAT time manager. (Either that or he's REALLY full of shit.)

"Listen, I gotta go"

They rang the bell for meat loaf?

"maybe you can get him to also explain..."

So that's all you've got? My life can't be that, because yours isn't? Aw, well....

The HS curriculum included AP courses, designed to cover for what would have been freshman year in college, aka 13th grade.

Ok, Thanks...

Idiot :)...

BTW...Nicole Kidman smells great.

#132 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2011-12-14 01:39 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I am not sure why it is hard for some to believe that a character actor wouldn't be hanging out on the Internet during the day? BTW when you find out what Nicole Kidman taste like then I will be impressed.

BTW when you find out what Nicole Kidman taste like then I will be impressed.

Fucking Hilarious...

"when you find out what Nicole Kidman taste like then I will be impressed."

Whereas for you, just being able to spell "tastes" will be an accomplishment!

"I gotta go"

Cholera outbreak?

"...what Nicole Kidman taste [sic] like..."

mmmmm unexplained bacon.

Whereas for you, just being able to spell "tastes" will be an accomplishment!

#147 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2011-12-14 02:09 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I have a much better shot at getting a taste of Nicole Kidman then I ever do at learning how to spell.

Whereas for you, just being able to spell "tastes" will be an accomplishment!

#147 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2011-12-14 02:09 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I have a much better shot at getting a taste of Nicole Kidman then I ever do at learning how to spell.

I genuinely wonder how the current GOP Establishment, with it's schizophrenic allegiances to both the uber-wealthy and the Tea Partiers, will react if there is indeed an Obama landslide. Will they finally come to their senses and realize that it is not enough to simply oppose everything suggested by a Democrat? Will they realize that they have to expand their view of America beyond the White upper middle class and the Bible belt? I wonder.

I genuinely wonder how the current GOP Establishment, with it's schizophrenic allegiances to both the uber-wealthy and the Tea Partiers, will react if there is indeed an Obama landslide. Will they finally come to their senses and realize that it is not enough to simply oppose everything suggested by a Democrat? Will they realize that they have to expand their view of America beyond the White upper middle class and the Bible belt? I wonder.

#152 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2011-12-14 02:27 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Your walking out of the tired old stereotypes is ignorance on parade. Btw

Tired old stereotypes? Tired and old, - at this point that may be true. But insofar as these characterizations are proving to be true, hardly stereotypes at this point.

You Idiots had better cool the rhetoric and think a little,look at his record one word dismal!Can you imagine him as a lame duck,you ain't seen nothing yet.Read a little History of what happens to a country when its leaders are Marxist. You may flirt with that idea but the reality is there is always a ruling class at the top and the peons,that's it no way of working your way up because they plot your life.

As Kanrei correctly pointed out last week, anyone who claims President Obama is a "Marxist" and actually believes it has no idea what it means to be a Marxist.

"Neither did Newt or Cain at one time, this game isnt over. I will take a serious look at Huntsman..."

You might be impressed. He's got serious foreign policy cred, believes in "free market solutions" and generally the power of capitalism, is against bailouts ("Capitalism without failure is not capitalism"), understands the use of military force, wants us out of Afghanistan now, believes that Pakistan is a serious problem, puts country over party, and is, quite simply put, smart. (It's really weird to find myself really liking a conservative politician.)

"Before I call you an idiot for saying there is a 13th grade and become an idiot myself, could you explain please?"

Increasingly, I have seen the phrase K-16 in education circles. Weird, but true.
+++++

149--LMFAO.

Prag: Along the same lines I've heard it said in some circles that an embryo is not considered viable until it gets a Bachelor's Degree.

1 You have to go back to George Washington to hang the deficit spending. Don't think he was a democrat or republican.

2 Cannot agree with you there, marriage is to be between one man and one woman. A civil union for the protection of assets, okay. Marriage no. So what gay bashing? I do not remember a republican campaign about that. Now there may be some whacko's that have a far out opinion, but that is not the whole party just someone's opinion.

3 You need to go to the IRS and look at the government data. If I remember correctly the top 5% of wage earners pay just short of 75% of the taxes the government gets. Their bill is in hte excess of 50%, unless of course they are no longer earning a living and retired, then it is considerably less. Perhaps you need to look at the democrats that make it so difficult to do business in this country that corporations are moving jobs out. The regulations also make it next to impossible for somebody in hte middle class to breaout and move to the next level. Also part of the problem is the tax code, ti is too complex. Now when Obama needs money he sure as hell does not go to the middle class he goes to wall street and hollywood.

4 The current administration quadrupled the deficit that George Bush left after EIGHT years. You should be outraged with the democrats. THink about it the presidnet cannot sign a bill unless it is passed by congress. With the exception of the Clinton years and the first Bush term the democrats have controlled the congress, that writes and passes the bills since 1950. So how are the deficits the republicans fault? By the way I am not a George Bush fan because of this spending.

5 The financial meltdown was the result of the community reinvestment act signed by Jimmy Carter, our previous worst president. Clinton signed an update that relaxed credit standards. Then the ACLU and NAACP threatened the banks for not lending money to the poor for houses. THe banks, rather than end up in court, loaned the money to less than credit worthy people. In 2004, you still can pull up hte video on you tube, (2004 congressional hearings) when the republicans wanted to tighten credit standards the democrats would not let them. So the problem grew and grew until it exploded. There is a good book, I can't remember the name though, that went into great detail about this and the democrats were responsible.

6 As far as Justice Scalia, I like his conservative approach to the law, we need more of that not less. You did not say what your beef was with him so I cannot address it.

Now don't take my word for this, go look it up on the internet, read a copy of the constitution, what I have said here is fact and can be proven.

Marxist one that believes the money must be taken from the producers and given to those that do not produce so everybody has the same. The governemnt distributes the wealth. A Marxist also endorses revolution.

So let us summarize the current administration, we need to take money from the rich and give it to the poor because it is not fair. (who said life was fair?) Of course these oflks are not required to do anything to earn this money just pass the mirror test. We endorse rabble rousers like the wall street whacko's who want to overturn the system.

Hmmmm sounds like a Marxist to me, what am I missing?

"A Marxist also endorses revolution."

So did Thomas Jefferson, dummy.

"Hmmmm sounds like a Marxist to me, what am I missing?"

A brain.

I could while away the hours, conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain.
And my head I'd be scratchin' while my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had

With the thoughts you'll be thinkin' you could be another Lincoln
If you only had

Not at all. Ron Paul can beat Obama.

#134 | Posted by Dirk at 2011-12-14 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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But somehow will not.

"The Coming Obama Landslide"

THANK YOU DR for making me laugh!!! I truly hope in my heart of hearts this is the way you feel.

The exact same thing happened to Carter, right before the Reagan Revolution!

"The exact same thing happened to Carter, right before the Reagan Revolution!"

Which means you believe that Gingrich or Romney is the next Reagan.

LOL!!!

#165 | Posted by Hans

Gingrich, not Romney!!!

"Gingrich, not Romney!!!"

Now THAT is a real LOL!!!

In one basic way, Newt is not Reagan: People liked Reagan.

I don't know whether Tomasky may be correct or is just fantasizing, but I sure enjoyed reading this opinion piece. One can hope...

#1 | Posted by moder8

He's the Glenn Beck of the Left.

Obama is the weakest candidate for reelection since Carter, unless voters are the dumbest people in the history of this nation.

This president now regularly runs 1.5 trillion deficits and has spent almost a trillion of stimulus rewarding political backers such as unions, government employees, and crony capitalists. I love how MY hard earned money is being spent. Remember under him that "the more you make, the more you owe the government. The less you make, the more he pays you to vote for him." WHAT COULD ANYONE POSSIBLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH?

He wants to spend a billion on this election. Disregarding the $800 million that was spent on his first campaign, this is more than all the previous presidential elections combined. It won't be cheap buying all the votes he will need in 2012 to overcome his complete failure as "president".

This man is going around attacking "the rich", but don't forget (which you seem to, conveniently) that he is a major fawner to the fat cats, and WS. He has gotten more money from WS, union bosses, and crony capitalists than anyone. For him to position himself as a class warrior (our modern day Robin Hood), doing battle against an entrenched elite, speaking truth to power, is laughable, at best.

As for unemployment dropping to 8.6% (during the Christmas short term hiring season), remember that that number is called the U3 which are the folks on unemployment. At the same time, 300k left the workforce, exhausting their unemployment benefits. So, that number sounds better now that those folks no longer count, but are now on food stamps and welfare, or worse.

Nufilidain,
Obviously there is no intelligent life between your ears. Try an intelligent comment.

#174 | Posted by patriotwoman23

You interesting people beat Obama over the head with such stats whether they go up or down. If one of your Village Idiots actually manages to schlepp into the presidency, we're going to enjoy giving him or it the same treatment.

"Patriot woman" is surely no patriot. I wonder if a woman ... herm

Oh Herm, you must be another sheeple person? How is that free government cheese? Funny how you sheeple have nothing to use to counter facts, except mindless babble. GOOD JOB!

Here's a list of states Obama won't be winning this time around.

Indiana
North Carolina
Virginia
Iowa
Ohio
Florida
Colorado

States he will be lucky if he wins

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Maine
Michigan
New Mexico
Nevada

All this coupled with the fact that Obama loses 14 electoral votes even if he wins all the states he won last time makes it highly unlikely he will be reelected!

"The exact same thing happened to Carter, right before the Reagan Revolution!"

Which means you believe that Gingrich or Romney is the next Reagan.

LOL!!!

#165 | Posted by Hans

Ron Paul could easily be that... Not a Reagan though. More like a Kennedy in leadership.

Here's the problem. The election is not shaping up to be about the lilly livered Obama. Its going to be about the positively insane Rethuglican candidates. They offer nothing in the way of solutions because they refuse to or cannot define our problems accurately. Obama at least gets that far, though he does nothing else.

Rocky Anderson for President (former Salt Lake City Mayor).

Tomasky: The Coming Obama Landslide

Posted by moder8

LOL!

Without a doubt the most far-fetched worthless 'article' you have ever wasted your 'valuable' time to post...

Just when we all think you have Finally hit rock bottom somehow you pull off another stunner showing the depths of your ignorance are truly limitless.

just fantasizing, but I sure enjoyed reading this opinion piece

To ModerH8 this is just wanking material

As a friend of mine in DC said after sitting in on the White House conference calls, "Obama planned to be a one term president so he could push through the campaign agenda, but the Republicans are apparently planning to make him a two term president regardless."

When President Obama does win reelection next November, what will all the teary eyed whiny rightwingers being claiming then? (Just curious.)

"... so the Right has Mitt, who cannot get more than 25 percent of his own Party in the primaries"

If the nominee, this will all change. I guess since many hear claim to know GOP people and what they are saying, add this to your quotes. I do not know of any Republican or Conservative that is pleased with Obama or that will vote for him. This will be an anybody but Obama vote for most of us. Couple that with a still ailing economy, pending DOJ scandals -- ballsy prediction picking Obama.

"Here's a list of states Obama won't be winning this time around." Nonsense! I'll give the dog catcher of Pine Bluff Ark., or whatever lunatic the GOP decides h as the best chance, Idaho, Utah, Oklahoma, Texas and maybe one or two illiterate, deluded Deep South states. At best. It will indeed be a landslide. herm

Looking for a job or food stamps same as you moron!

Wow, you guys are really wishing on a star. Obama doesnt have a chance. When the U/E rate goes back up to 9+% after the holidays and his lack of leadership becomes plainly into view, it will be a landslide alright.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2011-12-13 06:02 PM | Reply |

It's too early to decide who's going to win this thing. If Obummer wins, it'll be a squeaker. However, employment shouldn't improve much and we'll be heading or already beginning the next recession when the election is held. The stock market will be lower then it is today and the only way Obummer has a chance to win is if he runs a completely different campaign then from 2008; from positive "hopey/changey" to fear/negativism. Make the focus on the rethug and not his pathetic record. Also, positive for the Obummer is the support of wallstreet and the fact he already is campaigning instead of governing and has another year to run around the country.

It's certainly possible that Obama will win easily. Given the useless opposition he would win by an FDR-type landslide in any other era but this one. Things being as they are though it's equally possible that Romney or whichever other mediocrity emerges from the third rate circus that is the Republican party could win easily too.

It's simply too early to say and it's still possible that the right will implode. We can only hope so, for their sake as much as ours.

"Not as ugly as Michelle Antoinette is going to be when she has to deal with the fact that the free ride and expensive vacations are over.
But there's always Chicago . . . .
#24 | Posted by goatman"

What? Huh? It's hard to understand you with Newt's cock in your mouth.

What? Huh? It's hard to understand you with Newt's cock in your mouth.

#191 | Posted by mOntecOre

Fuck you Monte. Newt is simply fabulous.

--Goatman

#192 -- do you ever re-read your posts after you've sobered up and realized they aren't as cunning and witty as they seemed when you wrote them? I mean, is this really your idea of a stunning slap-down? LOL

I'm glad it works for you dull. The thinking among us will politely smile, pat your little head, and move on however.

Oh are you saying the Constitution is a dangerous document? If so you need to vacate to Iran,China,Venezuela which would better suit your sensibilities.How in the hell did you get here anyway?

"The thinking among us....
#193 | Posted by goatman"

Goatshart would like people to include him in that group. And they might, if it weren't for the fact he has Newt's cock sticking out of his mouth. Very unsightly.

"This will be an anybody but Obama vote for most of us."

Just as 2004 was ABB for most Democrats. Kerry never worked for me; I voted for him, though. I'd like to see Huntsman, or some as-yet-unknown but of some similar bent, nominated by the Republicans (snow has a better chance in Hell); I can't vote for any of the others currently in the race. (Of course, I can. I have free will. But you know what I mean.)

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