I saw defense co GLEE. Fucking sadistic war mongers.

And yea like mccain... Bomb bomb bomb...iran.

And yea like mccain... Bomb bomb bomb...iran.

I really really hope Rom Paul gets the republican nomination.

He's the only nominee that's not parroting what all other politicians are saying.

This demonstrates Paul's strength in sticking with his ideology even when it isn't popular with his Party, not something a Mitt Romney, say, would understand.

His problem is that he defends some of his wackiness in other policy areas with the same steadfastness.

Truth is to say that, "officials tried to capitalize on Sept. 11 attacks.", is an understatement. It fit so nicely with their desires to have a "War President" to run for re-election and their willingness to cut taxes with Chinese loans for the same purpose, destroying the economy as a result.

I do hope Ross Pero... oops! Ron Paul runs a 3rd party race, though.

Paul is a whack job. He has no idea, he is just trying to justify his unorthodox opinions on foreign policy.

i wonder what song he performed.

Amazing how the media- even George Will- have no understanding of isolationism versus non-interventionism.

Look it up.

It's irresponsible for Paul to suggest that the Bush administration was gleeful about 9/11 without laying out any evidence for this assertion.

OK who stole rcade's sign-on credentials?

"Think of what happened after 9/11, the minute before there was any assessment, there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq"

if it was before the assessment how did they know that it would provide an opportunity to invade iraq?

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Paul is a whack job. He has no idea, he is just trying to justify his unorthodox opinions on foreign policy.

#6 | Posted by gtjr at 2011-12-10 03:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

No foreign military aide, strong national defense, concentrate on our own hemisphere. What a NUTJOB.

This is country is so screwed in the head, you're labeled a "nut-job" when you make sense. It's no wonder we have criminals running it at every level.

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Amazing how the media- even George Will- have no understanding of isolationism versus non-interventionism.

Look it up.

#8 | Posted by adammm at 2011-12-10 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why should they when we have our wonderful defense department and CIA to tell us what to understand? Granted no one can point to any real gain to the country as a whole for anything we've done since or towards the end of the Cold War, but it's GOOD. We must listen to our masters, err, I mean our elected officials.

Ron Paul is a mental case, how anyone could support this drooling idiot is beyond me.

#14 | POSTED BY REXZEITGEIST

He wants to end the fed, enact wide spread drug law reform, and bring every troop home around the globe. For some people, that's enough.

I disagree with Ron Paul on 95% of all the issues.

I would vote for Obama before I would vote for Ron Paul, I only disgree with Obama on 87.5% of all issues.

List the issues, Rex.

Shouldn't take you long.

I'll wait.

While I only agree with possibly 50% of Ron Paul's stated policies, I agree with the most important 50%.

End our forever wars; improve our credibility; work to end corruption; end foreign aid to all countries; end the deceitful control of 330 million USA citizens by a tiny minority of chosen ones from another continent; and end all guns and no butter policy that favors only the Congress-mil-industrial complex at the expense of the USA.

There is only one candidate that will make a difference and Ron Paul is the only one with a chance.

if it was before the assessment how did they know that it would provide an opportunity to invade iraq?

Rummy was dragged out of the Pentagon while bitching afghanistan had no bombible targets, but Iraq was loaded with them. Not sure if this is what you mean, but it was clear from the axle of easels speech, and even before
the election that Cowboy george and his string-pullers wanted to get their hands on, I mean liberate, that iraqi oil.

Dumya was glad that 9/11 gave him the pretext to lie his way into Iraq and then being able to chuck the remains of the dead troops into the King George County landfill.

It's irresponsible for Paul to suggest that the Bush administration was gleeful about 9/11 without laying out any evidence for this assertion.

"Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not."

"Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not."

Insitd job... masonic goat ritual!

This is why Ron Paul is a non-event.

Very few things said by this man make sense...some do and are to the point and would help the country if we did them.

But so many of his views or comments are as stated above.
Which just make him a loon.
A part time loon, but a loon never the less.

......NOPE in 2012.....Then the teachers and there unions.

Then the teachers and there unions.

But not the here unions.

I'm guessing "mensa" means something else on your planet. Something involving eating urinal cakes.

Then the teachers and there unions.

But not the here unions.

I'm guessing "mensa" means something else on your planet. Something involving eating urinal cakes.

#26 | Posted by northguy3

Thanks for the heads up on the spelling.

As I have said before...sometimes the spelling thing gets in the way of my thoughts...hate me.

......NOPE in 2012.... Then the teachers and their unions.

And as it turns out I do mean the "here" unions not the "there" unions as they have in Canada.......A.

And on my planet we call them CANADIAN LIFESAVERS not urinal cakes.

Paul comes off crazy when he says the administration had glee after 9/11.

Complete utter rubbish.

maybe he should have said shrub made hay and left it at that. then you could argue about what hay means.

Snoofy: Is that evidence of glee from Rumsfeld? I think it's evidence of trying to exploit the crisis to achieve unrelated policy objectives, but that's not the same thing as being gleeful on 9/11 after the towers fell.

If Paul had said that the Bush administration exploited the crisis, I wouldn't have a problem with that characterization.

My old man was in the 3rd Marine div WW2.

when rummy said you go to war with the army you have, my old man laughed so hard I was afraid he was going to touch cloth.

If Paul had said that the Bush administration exploited the crisis, I wouldn't have a problem with that characterization.

What then is the problem? Do you think they broodingly exploited the crisis, or only reluctantly exploited the crisis -- one which just so happened to make their PNAC dreams come true so they can "Sweep it all up. Things related and not."

Sure, it wasn't all glee. True, Bush did gleefully landed on the deck of the carrier and gleefully announce Mission Accomplished, but our media informed us that Jessica Lynch had been anally raped by Iraqis (only gleeful if you're an Iraqi.) But later, when Bush crawled around the dinner party looking for the missing WMD under people's tables, the glee continued.

Sure, maybe Ron Paul went a bit too far with his words. But you know what he's saying, and he's right.

Paul is sounding like a treasonist bastard. I want to hear HIS plan of action if and *when* the mudslimes attack us again. I want to hear him say that "we asked for it" like the dumbass says about 9/11.
Everything is in black and white to the man. I bet he hasn't seen one bit of the classified intel that comes in constantly that reveals the mudders plans to hit us again.

I do hope Ross Pero... oops! Ron Paul runs a 3rd party race, though.

#5 | Posted by Corky

Are you a partisan hack or an American?

You say this in favor of Obama because you support Obama. Why?

Why would you support Obama after all of his failures? Hell! His biggest failures are his successes!! You have to remember one thing. Hitler was successful with his agenda too.

Corky, I suggest that you behave more like an American and be more interested in what's good for all of rather your pety need to have your party win.

I wasn't in washington DC when the attacks happened so I can't say what the reaction was there....but, I was in Israel and I can tell you that there was no glee among the Israelis, but there was a pronounced sense that events were moving in their favor.

At the time, In Israel, there were lot's of buses being blown up and other terrorist activities aimed at regular Israeli citizens. Even though my friends there were interested in attending to my personal needs, related to the attack (I was supposed to fly back on 9-13, but i was trapped there for extra weeks), at the same time, they were quick to say things like this;

'So, now the US knows how it feels to be attacked by terrorists'.

Paul is a whack job. He has no idea, he is just trying to justify his unorthodox opinions on foreign policy.

#6 | Posted by gtjr

LOL!! Really? Have you ever read anything about US position in the world?

Most people in the world either love US or hate us. Why the extreme?

Think about Switzerland for a second. Love? Hate? Indifference?

It's irresponsible for Paul to suggest that the Bush administration was gleeful about 9/11 without laying out any evidence for this assertion.

#9 | Posted by rcade

Yet, most Libbies believe him.

Are most Libbies irresponsible?

Ron Paul is a mental case, how anyone could support this drooling idiot is beyond me.

#14 | Posted by RexZeitgeist

Rex is a moron or is trolling. I can't wait to read the rest of the thread...

......NOPE in 2012.....Then the teachers and there unions.

#25 | Posted by MENSAKOOK

No, you mean Corporatism and Unionism.

Dude, really. Right now you're a moron. You need to read up on Paul, then come back here and tell me he's a loon. I can't even debate it with you because you're too ignorant.

What Paul is saying about 9/11, the Bush administration and Iraq is almost certainly true. They wanted to invade Iraq because of that PNAC lunacy to impose democracy on the Middle East by military force while getting their hands on Iraqi oil as a bonus. There was no way they were going to persuade America to do it though but when 9/11 created a political climate where it did become possible they took advantage of the opportunity. Even then they had enough problems selling America on the phoney intel they cooked up about WMD and yellowcake and the terrorist connections that didn't exist.

So Paul is just saying what has become the consensus about Iraq. But saying there was glee in the White House about the opportunity to use 9/11 to invade just demonstrates why he is not a serious candidate for president.

Most people in the world either love US or hate us. Why the extreme?

#36 | Posted by Eddie

The only extreme is 'tween your ears. I haven't been everywhere but i've been in many different countries and this is not my experience at all. There is no extreme 'love or hate'. That kind of thinking only exists in the US.

My experience is that other people of the world (non-americans) are just like americans, minus the arrogance. They like americans but they distrust and dislike the US gov't. Imagine that.

And they correctly determined that some americans are pyschopaths. And they correctly determined that some americans are fat pigs. other than that, most other peoples generally like americans, because we try to show respect to their beliefs and stuff.

And another thing. Switzerland is a neutral country. What of it, you thinking about attacking Austria?

If Ron Paul were elected would:

A) The Fed really get "audited" by a truly impartial third-party?

B) The military budget and all it's tendrils "audited"?

C) Outsourcing and it's subsidization become outlawed?

D) Marijuana decriminalized?

E) Electric car and solar station initiatives become reality?

F) Return to the moon? Pretty please? I'll lead your invasion!

G) Nuclear disarmament.

H) Vaccine manufacturing become mandatorily localized.

I) Genetically modified foods profiteering stop entirely.

J) Factory farming stop entirely, all farmers immediately report for re-conditioning.

K) Animal research involving unethical, cruel and unnecessary experimentation stop entirely, all scientists immediately report for reconditioning.. community-driven agendas become the mainstay. Profiteering is not tolerated.

L) Mineral, oil, coal and other resources become property of the Nation. All lobbyists and legislators immediately report for re-conditioning.

This is fun! What couldn't the magical-crotchitiness of Ron Paul accomplish?!

If Paul had said that the Bush administration exploited the crisis, I wouldn't have a problem with that characterization.

Well that is obvious RCADE. However, considering there is discussion and perhaps the evidence that Bush-hole blew off notifications of an impending attack by bin Laden gives credence to Paul's statement. I think Bush-hole was expecting something the magnitude of a USS Cole severely "misunderestimating" how wily his former business partner's baby brother was.

Frankly I think Bush-hole was caught off guard that such a breathtaking attack could be made using weapons of mass box cutting. Nary a bomb (i.e. WMD) was dropped. detonated or otherwise employed... and yet Bush Hole went right to the WMD discussion while reminding people of the Twin Tower collapse.

After awhile people forgot that it was passenger jets... deemed safe and used every day..., box cutters also deemed safe mixed in with lax requirements at pilot training schools... deemed part of the entrepreneurial spirit of decent people trying to earn a decent living.... and a few high school graduates posing as ME business types that took out a pair of our tallest buildings... in one of our major cities.

Glee is highly possible if you look at the definition

1. great merriment or delight, often caused by someone else's misfortune

I think you give asswipes like Bush-hole too much credibility if you imagine him capable of caring about the lives of the 3000 people when he was so hot to take out however many people he had to in order to get that man who tried to kill his daddy... and possibly his own wife since she was on that same trip.

We will never know how many Iraqis were killed over Bush-holes rabid pursuit of Saddam because we disposed of them in mass graves. That's how ar is done.

In the end he had to cavalierly admit there were no WMD's... but by golly we done took out uh reel bad guy.

I think Paul has the gonads to call it how it is. More than those in polite society seem capable of rising too.

But I am still not gonna vote for him tho.

RiT,

That is a shame. We as a country need to go in a radicaly different direction in regards to foreign policy and economic policy. Ron Paul is the only guy (ok Nader and Johnson but they have even less a chance) out there that will actualy work to acomplish that. Maybe he will be successfull maybe not. However if you dismiss him then we are stuck following the same story line that we have been following for at least a couple decades.

This is fun! What couldn't the magical-crotchitiness of Ron Paul accomplish?!

#43 | Posted by redlightrobot

You made an excellent list of what the American people want to see happen!

You make an excellent case to elect Ron Paul, yet, you him...

And another thing. Switzerland is a neutral country. What of it, you thinking about attacking Austria?

#41 | Posted by Lipzoidial

You missed the point, obviously.

I am comparing US's influence in the world with Switzerland's.

Invading? What??

Go back and read the original argument and let's just forget the bullsh!t you posted.

"It's irresponsible for Paul to suggest that the Bush administration was gleeful about 9/11 without laying out any evidence for this assertion."

The evidence is how the Bush admin decided to use 9/11 to forward their own unrelated agenda. The Bush admin obviously saw "opportunity" in 9/11 and took full advantage of that opportunity.
"Glee" is an exageration maybe but given the traitorous behavior we are talking about, its hard for me to be too upset with Paul over it....

In the aftermath of 9/11, Bush said, "I won the trifecta". Ron Paul is thereby correct in his assertion.

Well, you're a cabbie, so we should immediately respect your opinion....on whether or not to take broadway or 4th....

Get my luggage out of the back, bitch. Here's a couple extra bucks, buy yourself some deodorant...

This is fun! What couldn't the magical-crotchitiness of Ron Paul accomplish?!
#43 | Posted by redlightrobot
You made an excellent list of what the American people want to see happen!
You make an excellent case to elect Ron Paul, yet, you him...
#47 | Posted by Eddie at 2011-12-11 01:06 PM

True dat. Ron Paul appears to be the only Republican candidate who isn't using a military threat as part of their platform.

The problem for me with his language is how he doesn't precisely define how "free" capitalism should be. Nor, does he seem interested in maintaining a number of current State and Federal employees. This is a serious experimentation within an economic depression that does not put money anyplace useful.

I also won't consider him serious unless he supports pensions, unemployment insurance, food stamps, women's clinics, free basic medicine and mandatory multi-lingual access, specifically Spanish. Simple shit. Promissory or not, I expect some decent societal responsibilities to be upheld and our little piece of the dream moving forward, regardless a rhetorically Republican President.

Again, I wouldn't really concern myself with new drapes, right?

I also won't consider him serious unless he supports pensions, unemployment insurance, food stamps, women's clinics, free basic medicine and mandatory multi-lingual access, specifically Spanish. Simple shit.

#52 | Posted by redlightrobot

Bullsh!t.

He supports those thing--at the state level where they belong.

If the people of a certain state want to support those programs, then they will do it.

I also won't consider him serious unless he supports pensions...

I'm still laughing at this statement.

Ron Paul has been brushed aside for a long time by Democrats and Neocon Republicans, but has been building a following much stronger than any other unconventional candidate.

If we "liberated" Iraq's OIL...where the hell is IT? And why am I paying $3.49/gal for IT?
Please Explain THAT to me.
I was in Iraq, were YOU?
Were ANY Of YOU Ron Paul supporters actually IN IRAQ?

"If we "liberated" Iraq's OIL...where the hell is IT?"

The Neocons' incompetence led them to believe the Iraqis were stupid enough to privatize the oil. They weren't. They retained ownership of their oil and allow foreign oil companies to pump it out of the ground but they have to buy every drop they pump unlike here in the US where they pump our oil out of the ground and give as pennies for it. That's why they want to drill here so badly, they make much more on oil they pump here than on what they pump in Iraq.

I think RCade's trying a bit too hard to be fair with this one. Seriously? The word 'glee' offends you?

rofl

Yes, the Bush admin gleefully exploited 9/11. There is no exaggeration with that statement. They milked it for everything it was worth.

That's not saying Bush was literally dancing and singing about the dead Americans on that day, just that they saw the event as a political tool to take advantage of.

The Neocons' incompetence led them to believe the Iraqis were stupid enough to privatize the oil.
#56 | Posted by danni

This argument is moot. It's the result of trying to put a "valid" reason for invading Iraq on something other than "Bush invaded Iraq to help his Oil Buddies!" (LOL!!!).

The real reason for "capturing" the oil is for the current cartel to continue to control it, and allowing the trading of oil around the world in US dollars.

If this never happened, then the cartel would lose it's grip on the market and oil would be trading freely (there's that word again) in the open market in several markets around the world -- in varying currencies.

The reason you won't believe this is:

1. You would have to admit that the American Empire is real and is controlling foreign markets imposing our will on them through the threat of being bombed into the stone age.

2. You would have to vindicate Bush (at least for the war) and put the blame where it belongs, on the neocon power structure. Who's to say that most of the wealthy Democrats are in not involved in this too? Bush was no more than a bumbling patsy.

Danni, once you know that truth about what is actually going on, you will start understanding more of what Ron Paul is talking about.

BTW, and don't get angry with me, I'm just the messenger. When Bush said "Mission Accomplished" from that Carrier, he was right. The mission was accomplished--we just didn't know at the time what mission he was talking about. He was talking to all of the rich people in the world who hold their assets and do business in American dollars.

Just in case you needed a link:

#59 - Oops, wrong thread.

Ron Paul supporters:

Ron Paul supporters:

punditkitchen.files.wordpress.
com

#61 | Posted by Optimus81

LOL!! Good one.

No, really. Do you have a clue about Ron Paul or are you just making fun? It's ok to be ignorant--most of the people you hang with are clueless, useful idiots. You will probably live out the rest of your life not really knowing what's going on around you.

Ron Paul 2012. About as close you will get to the unfiltered truth in politics. He doesn't need teleprompters to tell him what to say or think. He really wants to fix this mess we are in. He is not going to suck up to the Jewish lobby and that scares the daylights out of a lot of people that want a puppet in the oval office to play politics as usual.

Ron Paul is dead on as far as fiscal matters but anything past our borders he becomes derailed immediately example Iran getting nuclear capability.Those radical Mulahs would backmail the rest of the Middle East and probably cause other counties to pursue becoming nuclear also.

If Paul had said that the Bush administration exploited the crisis, I wouldn't have a problem with that characterization.

#30 | Posted by rcade

ummm isn't that exactly what he is saying? And Ron knows how politics works these days. You have to say things like this just to get attention.

The attacks simply provided "an opportunity for some people to do what they wanted to do," he said.

He makes the claim that the Patriot Act was before the attack.

"The PATRIOT Act was written many, many years before 9/11," Paul said

That should be fairly easy to verify. Think anyone will bother?

You will probably live out the rest of your life not really knowing what's going on around you.

#62 | Posted by Eddie

Self retorting retort!

apparently you and Mitt Romney have the same mental condition whereby you claim others have the very condition that you yourself have. Maybe it is a conservotard thing.

I have to believe that Paul’s cocktail of choice may very well be grain alcohol and rainwater...

Donner will wake up one day.

Or maybe he'll just live out the rest of his life not really knowing what's going on around him... and thinking he's smarter than everyone else...

LOL!!!

Just like Professors

"Think of what happened after 9/11, the minute before there was any assessment, there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq, and so the war drums beat,"

Ring around the falling towers
Spreading candy and flowers
Fascists
Fascists
Freedom falls down

I really think school uniforms would be money and morality well spent. And first period begins with culinary and farming themes culminating in breakfast. Has Paul advocated any specific means to "free" the education system of it's burdens other than to privatize the entire process? No means testing? He's like bizzaro-Nader.

Ron Paul 2012. About as close you will get to the unfiltered truth in politics. He doesn't need teleprompters to tell him what to say or think. He really wants to fix this mess we are in. He is not going to suck up to the Jewish lobby and that scares the daylights out of a lot of people that want a puppet in the oval office to play politics as usual.
#63 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2011-12-12 12:49 PM

Libertarianism without defined limits to privatization is mere corporate takeover. Similar to how the small banks have been gobbled up whole during their last toxic decade.

They were gleeful, it took everything for Bush to mask his smirk.

ever heard of Chertoff, Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith and PNAC buddy? you need to do your homework.

He makes the claim that the Patriot Act was before the attack.
"The PATRIOT Act was written many, many years before 9/11," Paul said
That should be fairly easy to verify. Think anyone will bother?

You're little nursery rhyme applies to the Federal Government.

Congratulations...

Oops! You thought you were talking about Bush only. LOL!!

YouTube Ron Paul The Enemy of America. Well, if we can come to agreement regarding how free market is implemented it's worth it to rid ourselves of the neocons and Zionists.

#70 | Posted by redlightrobot

Is this why most are writing Paul off as a loon?

I think he'll be shot if he's nominated.

"I think you give asswipes like Bush-hole too much credibility if you imagine him capable of caring about the lives of the 3000 people when he was so hot to take out however many people he had to in order to get that man who tried to kill his daddy... and possibly his own wife since she was on that same trip."
#44 | Posted by RightisTrite

You point out one of the greatest wrongs of the Clinton administration. A foreign regime tried to assassinate a former US president and the then sitting president responded by sending a missile into their intel headquarters at night when no one was there.

Regardless of whom the former president was the response should have been to take out that government completely. What Clinton did was a travesty.

Regardless of whom the former president was the response should have been to take out that government completely. What Clinton did was a travesty.

#75 | Posted by FreddyK

I think Clinton is a neocon too. He appeared weak, but he was just setting it all up for Bush.

ever heard of Chertoff, Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith and PNAC buddy? you need to do your homework.

I have and I realize they were busy doing their NEOCON thing way before 9/11 but did a copy of the Patriot Act exist in some form somewhere before 9/11?

That would pretty much prove Ron's point that the Bush administration "exploited the crisis".

maybe Ron Paul is not so crazy after all but someone just wants him to look that way.

I don't mean to be an ass on Monday morning... oh well.

watch War By Deception by Ryan Dawson. that will fill in some blanks for you.

The Neocons' incompetence led them to believe the Iraqis were stupid enough to privatize the oil. They weren't. They retained ownership of their oil and allow foreign oil companies to pump it out of the ground but they have to buy every drop they pump unlike here in the US where they pump our oil out of the ground and give as pennies for it. That's why they want to drill here so badly, they make much more on oil they pump here than on what they pump in Iraq.

#56 | Posted by danni at 2011-12-12 08:09 AM | Reply |

Or it wasnt about the Oil, is neocon the new gravitas? Ill have to watch the news and see if neocon is talking point for today-

The record is clear Bush & Co asked for our intelligence services to find something to tie Saddam to 9/11 following the attacks.

Paul O'Neill, former Bush Treas. Sec, wrote in his book that the first two NSC meeting's first items on the agenda were the invasion of Iraq. He made the mistake of asking "Why Iraq, and why now?". Following his dissension over the Bush tax cuts (which he said would pile up debt) he was summarily fired, and they attempted to bring him up on criminal charges for taking his own records.

The Bush White House was all about war with Iraq long before those planes hit the Twin Towers.

It took President Obama to finally make Bin Laden pay. We know what Bush said "I don't really think about him much" (sic) This following the initial "Dead or Alive" swagger from Camp David days after the attack.

The, of course, we know the only non-military plane allowed to leave the U.S. was full of Bin Ladens.

"It took President Obama to finally make Bin Laden pay. We know what Bush said "I don't really think about him much" (sic)

Is this moron from Florida as well? Or is it simply the liberal stain of stupidity on display?

I'd have thought Bush & Co might have wanted to question the Bin Ladens about Osama's whereabouts.

Bush & Co were more concerned about letting them leave the U.S. in the only non-military plane allowed to fly in American skies.

I don't mean to be an ass on Monday morning... oh well.

watch War By Deception by Ryan Dawson. that will fill in some blanks for you.

www.rys2sense.com

#78 | Posted by AuntieSocial

Just because you have an opinion which may differ from mine doesn't make you an ass. Only if you act like one like Crusty or Chairporne.

thank you for the link...I will watch it when I get some time... but meanwhile you can just tell us what it says. Did it say an actual copy of the Patriot Act existed before 9/11 just waiting for an event like 9/11 to happen? Or even a similar document? Do they have proof? It would be very significant if true and would make Ron Paul seem much more sane than folks are giving him credit for.

CRISPEE really needs to get a job. Trolling and being an asshole doesn't pay.

Good thing his mom lets him stay in her trailer at the retirement community or he'd be GASP living off 'the government'.

#81 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2011-12-12 04:41 PM | Reply | Flag: MORON

AU,

I think you're pissing in the wind here.

Other than Crispee, everyone knows that Bush invaded Iraq for Oil.

But, not everyone knows that it was for much more than just the resource. It was the control.

you get that, right? Most Liberals refuse to believe that.

EDDIE

Other reasons included payback for "Saddam tryin' to kill ma daddy"

At least a few don't embarrass themselves anymore by pretending otherwise.

Right wingers were all convinced we needed the Iraq war to protect us and rah rah-ed it the whole time, calling anyone opposed "terrorist appeasers" and questioning their patriotism. Those are the facts.

Other than Crispee, everyone knows that Bush invaded Iraq for Oil.

At least some are honest enough to admit that .... now

Back then? Um, sure thing. Uh-huh. Fright wingers were trembling in fear Saddam's 600 mile range Scuds would rain down on the U.S. if we didn't stop him with a multi-trillion dollar/hundreds of thousands of casualties war we never needed to fight. I knew that then.