"I drank me some sterno last night. Must mean I'm smart."
~Glasshouse

"to have used amphetamines and 65% more likely to have used ecstasy"

Gosh, I must not be as smart as I think I am if I haven't done all the drugs!

Wow.
I'm suprised I got in here before Nulli came in and made statements that amount to "correlation equals causation when it makes my Lord and Savior marijuana look good!"

The test is a bit skewed, it actually includes in it's "lowest" levels those who are mentally retarded. I dunno about your experiences, but not a lot of special ed kids I've seen know where to score pot, or even what the hell it is. Back to my original point though:

Yes, "intelligent" people get bored with mundane life quicker and easier, seeker more and more stimulation. The drugs of choice, despite the way the article spins it, is generally not cannabis, though there has been cannabis USAGE in almost all states, the majority usage according to the survey was harder drugs, though pot tended to be the start. It's things like cocaine, meth, and XTC where they ended up; dangerous drugs.

Here is where I point out that correlation does not equal causation, though. This study does not mean pot is a gateway drug, it means people who are apt to seek stimulation tend to start with pot and end with harder substances. If pot were not the easiest to obtain drug for minors, it'd be something else.

*seekers of more and more stimulation. Jesus fucking christ Rogers, put an edit feature in. Step into the mid 1990's.

Makes sense. Ever read Sherlock Holmes for example? His use of drugs and his need to solve mysteries was an attempt to distract himself from his never ending thoughts. I don't smoke pot to get high; I smoke it to slow my mind down to where I can focus on thoughts instead of having them race through my mind faster than I can keep track of them.

“High-IQ individuals have also been shown to score highly on tests of stimulation seeking and openness to experience,” they wrote, and it could be that “illegal drugs are better at fulfilling a desire for novelty and stimulation.”

So funny. When a study posted here about the same kind of people being more "spiritual", it was panned.

Pushing the limits of consciousness was a generational challenge in my day, and no, it wasn't all fun and games for some, it was also a lot of habitual misery.

These days pushing the limits of Twitter may, I say may, be safer, but the experience, as far as I would know, is not quite the same.

Besides, these were Brits. They could have been snorting bad fish & chips.

"When a study posted here about the same kind of people being more "spiritual", it was panned."

Yes it was. I've posted a number of threads about psilocybin-generated spiritual experiences.

"Pushing the limits of consciousness was a generational challenge in my day, and no, it wasn't all fun and games for some, it was also a lot of habitual misery."

Correct. Psychedelic experiences aren't all pretty colors. They can be quite challenging, but also quite transformational.

-They can be quite challenging, but also quite transformational

Which was the point for some of us.... well, that and the getting high and laid a lot part.

I'm still not sure which would have been better, the sexual laxity after the Pill came along or the great pharmies.

Fortunately, they came at the same time, so we didn't have to choose!

As a teenager, I tried every illicit drug known to man.

As a teenager, I tried every illicit drug known to man.

Even jenkem?

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I think a key difference on that is that while there is debate on the validity of several tests, intelligence is more quantifiable, as is drug use, next to spirituality. For instance, I'm an atheist - doesn't mean I don't feel a social connection and obligation to my fellow man, or a sense of awe, wonder, and majesty just looking at a starry night sky, realizing just how much to the universe there is beyond myself. Aren't those essentially the same feelings the religious have? Yet I most likely would score quite low on a test of spirituality.

Now - creativity, as well as psychological well-being, partly related to the effects of psychotropics, every study I've seen on that has been both fascinating and indicative of a strong possibility prohibition is making us discard a very useful tool our shamans and seers once employed to great effect.

As a teenager, I tried every illicit drug known to man.

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Peyote?

Peyote?

Yep. My best friend and I smuggled them across the Rio Grande at Boquillas. River was only a couple of feet deep.

When we did them, they tasted so awful and were so hard to chew, we put them in a blender with limeade concentrate and tequila and did shots.

We got pretty fucked up

...high IQs are more likely to use marijuana, cocaine, amphetamines and other illicit drugs as teenagers and adults...

I was just trying to dumb my self down to Celsary and Axe's level. The only time I got close I almost OD'd. Decided being intelligent was better than being dead and left those two to their own devises.

Explains why most liberals don't use drugs.
Funny how there's always two sides to every story.

"Explains why most liberals don't use drugs."

???

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No mystery here.

Putting up with stupid people creates a serious need to knock the edge off.

Dave - Mary lighten up. It's hump day. OK Mary back off.

HIGH IQ linked to boredom with stupid people...