What does victory look like again? With OBL dead and 1,000 U.S. troops for every suspected Al Queda member, it might be a good time leave Afghanistan.

it might be a good time leave Afghanistan.

#1 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2011-08-31 01:31 PM

Obama knows what he's doing. Just have faith.

#2 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

I don't even have faith he can tie his own fucking shoes at this point.

Obama knows what he's doing. Just have faith.

#2 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE AT 2011-08-31 01:40 PM

Not to jinx the boys in Iraq, but August is the 1st month of the iraq war where no US battlefield deaths are reported.

Wasn't July supposed to be the start of troop drawdown in Afghanistan? You know the ol Biden you can take that to the bank schtick?

Of Course, August was the Deadliest Month -- The Muslims were celebrating Ramadan! That's what they do during their holy month -- kill.

Christians pray, go to church, light candles and sing beautiful songs during their holy season of Christmas and Easter.

Jews pray, sing songs, tell stories of redemption and courage, fast, then eat great food and have wonderful family times, as do the Christians.

The Muslims take the opportunity of their holy month of Ramadan to kill. No wonder it is called the Religion of Peace.

"...August is the 1st month of the iraq war where no US battlefield deaths are reported."

Kind of an inevitable result of ending combat operations. When you stop actively kicking down doors looking for a firefight you are much less likely to get engaged in one.

#8 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2011-09-01 09:02 PM

One can only hope this circumstance covers our removal of troops from the middle east and instigate the desistance of terror stemming from the middle east.

When did CNN stop memorializing the KIA's? Was it around Jan 2009?

"When did CNN stop memorializing the KIA's?"

Why don't you look it up and let us know?

Obama knows what he's doing. Just have faith.

#2 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2011-08-31 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah. That strategic draw down planned for summer of 2012 shows he knows what he is doing. Trying to get elected.

Time to come home.

www.ronpaul2012.com

One can only hope this circumstance covers our removal of troops from the middle east and instigate the desistance of terror stemming from the middle east.

More of that Hope and Change, eh? You liberals are so fucking stupid. If you think that just because we withdraw from the middle east they will stop bombing us or hating us, you are a fucking idiot....

It's liberals like you that make me sick...

really?

instigate the desistance of terror stemming from the middle east.

Because the terror stemming from the middle east is because US troops are in Afghanistan?

You must be a complete fool who was in grade school on 9/11/2001.

"Stopped being updated in 2010."

It's updated yearly. You'll note 2011 is not over yet.

If they stopped updating in Jan 2009, there would be no 2009 or 2010 stats.

So I guess the answer to your question "When did CNN stop memorializing the KIA's? Was it around Jan 2009?", is no.

If you want to pray for the fallen soldiers, just check the DR for the post of all their names.

Oh, that's right.

The names aren't posted anymore since Bush left office.

"The names aren't posted anymore since Bush left office."

Interesting point. I wonder why that is? Do you think it's related to the election or just a coincidence?

I have no idea, myself.

"Do you think it's related to the election..."

Last one I can find is September 2007, so I guess that's also a "no".

Whatever happened to the daily body counts? Oh, that's right.... a dem is president now.

"Whatever happened to the daily body counts? Oh, that's right.... a dem is president now."

Since Sept 2007?

Christians pray, go to church, light candles and sing beautiful songs during their holy season of Christmas and Easter.
Jews pray, sing songs, tell stories of redemption and courage, fast, then eat great food and have wonderful family times, as do the Christians.
#7 | POSTED BY KISSNTELL AT 2011-09-01 08:58 PM | REPLY | FLAG: MISSES THE OBVIOUS

The only religion whose main prophet was a pacifist is Christianity. We know how well that went.

Muslims and Jews both make allowances for judicious killing those trying to harm them. Bush-hole was the one that went on about how it a "religion of peace".

You seem to forget that we are at war with Afghanistan. They are fighting back. In fact they are fighting the greatest military in the whole wide weeeeerrrrrrllllldddd. Plenty of US Christians over there killing Muslims right now. In fact I bet if you took an honest look at it the ratio for Afghanis... including civilians caught in the crossfire, they are being killed and maimed at a higher ratio than the US Christians in uniform killing and maiming them. All you hear about are the soldiers.

One of the things that makes you sound so stupid with your post, is that you dont' seem to know that Islam of the three groups you mentioned use and embrace the texts of both Judaism and Christianity as part of their study. Jews and Christians are exclusive in the reading material they consider sacred. Furthermore the more extreme Sharia law is based on Talmudic law straight out of the Canonical Bible. When Christians blather on about just punishment as ordained by gawd... it is right out of the Canonical texts as well. So much for your lame bullshit generalizations.

It's updated yearly. You'll note 2011 is not over yet.

So I guess the answer to your question "When did CNN stop memorializing the KIA's? Was it around Jan 2009?", is no.

The answer is yes. Each night during the Bush admin, they showed profiles on the air of US soldiers KIA. They haven't done they regularly in a long time. Even though casualties in Afghanistan are as high as ever.

And I don't by in to your claim about updating a web site once a year. That is funny.

24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2011-09-01 11:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well...in summary you are a god damned fool.

"And I don't by in to your claim about updating a web site once a year. That is funny."

Ok... why is the site still up with the current date then? I guess we'll see in 4 months.

Ok... why is the site still up with the current date then? I guess we'll see in 4 months.

#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2011-09-01 11:35 PM | Reply | Flag

Why is the site up with the current date? I don't know or care.

The real question is why did CNN and MSNBC change their policies once Obama began taking heavy casualties in Afganistan?

"Even though casualties in Afghanistan are as high as ever."

I know... I saw CNN's week long tribute to the SEALs lost in the chopper shootdown.

"Whatever happened to the daily body counts? Oh, that's right.... a dem is president now."
Since Sept 2007?

If you want it... is is always posted EVERY WEEK on the ABC Sunday news show This Week on the "In Memoriam" section. That is where it was picked up and posted here. Seriously making bizarre accusations trying to give significance to nothing relevant.

I mean if is is so fucking important to you... you aren't hung on hooks... post it.

I know... I saw CNN's week long tribute to the SEALs lost in the chopper shootdown.

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2011-09-01 11:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

So are you in denial that CNN and MSNBC changed the way they reported the deaths of soldiers after Obama became president?

"So are you in denial that CNN and MSNBC changed the way they reported the deaths of soldiers after Obama became president?"

I have no idea. I see little from CNN and I've never seen anything from MSNBC.

I hope Obama's plan does not involve perpetuating the Afghanistan war so that returning soldiers don't bump up the unemployment numbers

I had a friend at work give me this opinion. My though was, most of the guys coming back home will still be on active duty, and if they are in the guard, like I was, they have a civilian job. If they don't, they can volunteer to go to any number of short or long term jobs.

Veterans do very well at landing civilian jobs, anyway.

I don't agree with that assessment based on that alone, but in addition, I don't think President Obama would callously put troops in danger to keep jobless numbers from dipping, or any recent President for that matter.

You go berry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, what is our goal in Afghanistan?

By the way, what is our goal in Afghanistan?

Posted by Sniper at 2011-09-02 10:47 AM

Keeping UE numbers beneath 10%. Just think what happens when all the troops come home looking for work.

Well kan, if that's the goal it seems to be a suck-sess.

By the way, what is our goal in Afghanistan?

#35 | Posted by Sniper

to get out

#36 | POSTED BY KANREI AT 2011-09-02 10:49 AM

LOL! See Butthole_Surfer, others have the same worries, but I agree with you - he most likely is NOT that callous to keep troops over there just to keep the UE numbers lower. Though, he is a politician and politicians are capable of anything.

#33 | POSTED BY BUTTHOLE_SURFER AT 2011-09-02 01:35 AM

In June the Labor Department reported that the unemployment rate for Iraq and Afghanistan-era veterans was 12.4 percent. Overall, veterans represent about 20 percent of the unemployed in Texas.

#33 | POSTED BY BUTTHOLE_SURFER AT 2011-09-02 01:35 AM

In June the Labor Department reported that the unemployment rate for Iraq and Afghanistan-era veterans was 12.4 percent. Overall, veterans represent about 20 percent of the unemployed in Texas.

to get out

www.nytimes.com

#38 | Posted by donnerboy

Doesn't seem to be working dummer girl.

By and large the drumbeat to stop the war(s) has subsided under Obama. The likes of Cindy Sheehan and others are largely ignored in the press. Why? Is it that the protestors have given up? Is the media helping provide cover for Obama - certainly Bush was hammered daily about death tolls, an exit strategy, torture, etc, etc.

certainly Bush was hammered daily about death tolls, an exit strategy, torture, etc, etc.
#43 | POSTED BY OOHRAH AT 2011-09-03 10:00 AM

Many people who voted for him did so with the hope he would bring the troops home. Ron Paul pledges to bring them all back - to the point we are isolationists again. I believe that would be a good move until the U.S. economy is back at #1. We shouldn't be policing other countries' problems when we can't handle our own here.