Marcuth is thoo gay.

Jesus tells me to not cast my pearls before swine -- because swine like BannerBigot will not understand and just trample the pearls into the pile of shit he sleeps in (Matt. 7:6).

But I'm willing to risk it (I have many pearls) because this is comparable to other events.

Bigots like Bruthy do not understand the contextual (Scriptural) meaning of submissive. All he can relate to is his S&M experiences.

In the Bible, being submissive simply means respecting the authority of someone within their area of responsibility. You are 'submissive' to your doctor, dentist, auto mechanic and plumber: they know what to do and you let them do it.

In every organization, from General Electric to your home, someone must be in charge. Someone makes the final decision. And in each home that is determined differently. If BruceBigot wants to turn over all important decisions to his dominatrix, then he is behaving as the Bible teaches.

The Bible also says that the wife is the head of the household, which means that in matters of hearth and home, the husband is to be SUBMISSIVE to his wife.

So, all this means is that in every home, authority is delegated, and then that authority is to be respected.

This is a lot like the time Antonin Scalia gave a private speech and said that all Christians are "fools for Christ." A Washington Post reporter -- plus editors up the line -- breathlessly reported that Scalia had stated that Christians are fools.

In fact, Scalia said nothing of the kind. But leave it to bigoted reporters and stupid editors to rely on their bigotry rather than their curiosity and common sense.

Funny that we never heard Hillary asked this question when she was running.

Funny that we never heard Hillary asked this question when she was running.

#3 | Posted by MSgt at 2011-08-13 02:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well, she did give out that recipe for chocolate chip cookies.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that it's the same exact recipe on the back of a bag of chocolate chips.

Jesus tells me ...... BannerBigot will not understand and just trample .... the pile of shit he sleeps in (Matt. 7:6)....Bigots like Bruthy ..... All he can relate to is his S&M experiences...In the Bible, .....
...... BruceBigot ......... Antonin Scalia .... bigoted reporters .... stupid editors to rely on their bigotry ....www.religion-
online.org....
Ignorant Bigots like Bruthy

#2 | Posted by vernon at 2011-08-13 02:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is the "respect" that RWers claim the libs don't give to them. They say that lefties look down on them. They say that lefties are elitist and don't understand good people. Now Vern is going to school everyone on DR about the bible. Quoting scripture and hurling sexual insults, wildly stringing together random thoughts.

1. She said it.
2. She wants to be President.
3. She should explain what she meant.

How does that make me a bigot?

Do re-read post #2 and try to make any sense of it. It's complete garbled nonsense. More importantly, it doesn't address the question posed in the article.

WHY ARE CONSERVATIVES SO AFRAID OF THIS QUESTION ? ? ? ? ?

Vern's quite the asshole, we all know this, but I've rarely seen him lose it like he did in post #2.

Are we supposed to pretend she didn't say it?

Funny that we never heard Hillary asked this question when she was running.

#3 | Posted by MSgt

Hillary never said 'the Lord says for me to be submissive to my husband' (ph).

BTW, Bachmann claimed 'the Lord' said women should submit to their husbands.

The Apostle "Women should sit down and shut up" Paul did in his epistle to the Colossians (3:18). He also said women should never speak in church. Paul didn't like women. Jesus' closest friends were women. Paul was jealous.

It's a pity most evangelical "Christians" like Bachmann don't follow the teachings of Christ, but use the Old Testament and Paul's words (most of the New Testament) because it makes it so much more convenient to ignore what the namesake of Christianity taught:

- Love your neighbor as you would yourself
- Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you
- Feed the poor
- Heal the sick
- Riches will not make you happy
- Give what you have to help others

wildly stringing together random thoughts....

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2011-08-13 03:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

#6 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2011-08-13 03:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh my! BruceBigot gets upset because he wants a dog pile. Instead he gets a thoughtful and informed response on what Scripture actually says.

Of course, bigots are always completely ignorant of their subject, so this one tries to change the subject.

BruceBigot cannot discuss the substance of the thread he started.

Seems like I have to Jap Slap this prick every day lately. I'm not complaining. It's easy and fun.

but use the Old Testament and Paul's words (most of the New Testament) because it makes it so much more convenient to ignore what the namesake of Christianity taught:

- Love your neighbor as you would yourself
- Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you
- Feed the poor
- Heal the sick
- Riches will not make you happy
- Give what you have to help others

#7 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2011-08-13 03:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

The New Testament begins in Chapter 2 of Acts (written by Luke) with Pentecost.

If you actually knew what Paul wrote, and what Jesus said in context you'd know that your whiny, smug and self-righteous post is distorted and in error.

You want to sit on your fat ass and tell Christians why they are wrong, but you don't know anything you are talking about.

But we already knew that AU is full of horseshit on this topic. He promises to show me, chapter and verse, but when challenged on it simply runs away and hides. He can run his blabbering mouth, but he can't produce.

Reporter; 'Mrs, Bachman, as president, would you be submissive to your husband'?

M. Bach.; 'Yes, he can have some of this pussy anytime he wants it'.

Reporter; 'No, I mean, would he tell you what decisions to make as far as being president goes'?

M. Bach.'Hell no, you stupid fuck, i would be president'.

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I can't stand M. Bachman, but if i was her, i wouldn't let the media get all knee-jerkey on this subject.

"The Bible also says that the wife is the head of the household, which means that in matters of hearth and home, the husband is to be SUBMISSIVE to his wife."

So let's grant you the accuracy of this statement. Fine. Then I have to say it's just wrong in the modern sense. It surely suggests, at least in matters of hearth and home, that the wife is inferior (at least in judgment) to the husband. That's utter bullshit. People are people; some men are wise, and some women are wise. Sometimes both people in a marriage are fools and they should submit to someone else.

I think that if a politician more or less declares to be fairly literal in his or her sense of Scripture, then he or she should be ready to be questioned on it. And media questioners are not known for their depth of research these days, if ever they were, so anyone in this situation is liable to be asked some pretty stupid questions.

Furthermore, I think the Paul argument is fascinating, and I've heard similar assertions about him made by pretty serious Christians (like my own father), not just by atheists. Of course, the classic believer response is, "The Devil can quote Scripture to his purpose." (I'm probably not getting that quote exactly right.)

#7 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

You forgot one: Clothe The naked
(Jesse Jackass's favorite line).

Why not just ask if she douches regularly or if she masturbated daily

WHY ARE CONSERVATIVES SO AFRAID OF THIS QUESTION ? ? ? ? ?

Vern's quite the asshole, we all know this, but I've rarely seen him lose it like he did in post #2.

Are we supposed to pretend she didn't say it?

#6 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2011-08-13 03:28 AM

lets also remember it was asked of her by a conservative columists as all were...
and she answered it okay...but of course libs and other athiests..(:)
love to take the whole 'submission' thing to mean that christian men can beat thier wifes...and we all know thats the "PEACEFULL RELIGION OF ISlAM" that allows that.

Wives submit, husbands treat your wife as Christ did the church, i.e., sacrifice everything for them... a lot of Christians interpret this to mean a 50/50 relationship. Hardly controversial, except the douche chillingly odd part where she said she only studied tax law because her husband said to... that's fucked up. Wives doing shit they hate because they're told to is a dark part of Christianity that's slowly going away and can't do so fast enough (sex acts exempted of course).

Democrats, please destroy this woman's political career before the nominations are complete. Thank you.

#8 | Posted by vernon at 2011-08-13 08:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

I've participated in a lot of religious activity in my life - church, Sunday school, youth groups, etc... and I can tell you that I learned one thing beyond a doubt: When a person claims to be a person of God, but acts in the way Vernon does, that person is rotten to their core and is an inherently despicable person.

"Is Bachmann a Submissive Wife?"

Considering how Marcus Bachmann comes across in his media appearances, I can't imagine that this would be the case.

Unless, of course, he really is a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

Submissive? Probably

Beard? Most definitely

Bruce...I've said it before...Verno seems rather fond of wearing his "Christianity" around here like it's some kind of fashion accessory.

I have no doubt that as the road to the convention progresses, Bachmann and her campaign will spare no theonomical convolutions to dilute/obscure her dominionist world view.

I understand the theology behind the "submissive" statement, but I do have a sense of humor, and I also know about BDSM, so, I am LMAO. Especially with the wonderful visual they provided with that magazine cover photo.

Dont know if she is submissive, lets put a camara in the bedroom and find out..I can see her with a ball in her mouth and that gay husband of hers over her asking if she has been good or bad and the " gimp" in the corner....LOL

OBJECTION! HEADLINE LEADING...

Leave it to libbies to dwell on a dumbassed question and try to make it into something important.

KBM--

It was a dorky question--lol

I mean would Byron or any 'journalist' ever in a million years ask that question to any male candidate?

Not.

I sent him an email btw.

But there are folks who take this phrase to levels that are incorrect, twisted, and offensive.

Her husband said she should become a tax attorney--that for her at the time--probably made no sense.

But you know spouses usually know more about their spouse that they know about themselves.

I have no doubt she is happy she respected her husband's thoughtful opinion and he knew she would be successful, which she totally was successful.

But I'm willing to risk it (I have gotten many pearl necklaces) because this is comparable to other events.

Fixed that for you Vern.

Of course, bigots are always completely ignorant of their subject, so this one tries to change the subject.

So by your own logic you admit you're the world's biggest bigot?

your whiny, smug and self-righteous post

LOL coming from you vern that's hilarious.

How is calling into question her belief system being a bigot? The right didn't have any problem calling into question Obama's religious associations (Rev. Wright anyone?) so for them to pretend to be outraged over this is hilarious.

Looking into their religious beliefs and how they act on them can give one valuable insight into how they will act as a leader. The only thing that would be bigoted is writing them off simply because they belong to a certain religion and not looking into how their faith has play out in their life (Romney gets this from both sides).

Who cares the important thing is that liberals are cuckolds

28--HUH?! The wives of liberal men are known to sleep around on their husbands? Even here, that was a weird assertion. I expect the poster believes all liberals are atheists (foolish belief) and therefore their wives don't submit ('cause only Christian men dominate their wives--another foolish belief).

Oh, wait, you were joking? (Somehow, I doubt it.)

VERNON: The New Testament begins in Chapter 2 of Acts (written by Luke) with Pentecost.

Um, every Bible I've ever seen has a page that says "New Testament". The first book when you turn the page is Matthew.

You want to sit on your fat ass and tell Christians why they are wrong, but you don't know anything you are talking about.

A. My ass isn't fat. I'm in great shape.
B. Bachmann said 'the Lord' told women to 'submit to their husbands'. She's flat wrong. It was Paul. Jesus' best friends and trusted confidants were women.
C. Seems I know what I'm talking about
D. You don't
E. Don't tell anyone you're a Christian. You'll turn them off from actual Christianity.

"(written by Luke)"

Sure it was.

And Seneca met Paul.

Idiot.

BTW, VERNON

Bachmann didn't say 'The New Testament says I should submit to my husband'. She claimed 'the Lord ...'. What's that deflection all about? You need to exclusively read only what Jesus taught for awhile to gain a grip on what "Christianity is and what 'the Lord' said vs Paul.

Try this one out on your wife: "Let your women keep silence in the churches". - Paul

No wonder y'all don't come here to live. She might learn that in non-Asian cultures she doesn't have to submit to you.

Damnit Prag you're not gonna struck down by lightning if you refer to me by name I know it's contrary to your instincts but try to stop being such a wimp

I'm not a wimp (verbally). Sometimes I go by number, sometimes by name. In this case, I could have gone by name, judging by what I actually wrote--my words would have made it clear who I was talking about.

But you know, you're not gonna get struck by lightning if you write clearly. : ) Did the Scotch drinkin' start early? I may soon open the bottle of vodka. (Went to a student's funeral today--hard.)

Does she follow her 'lord' Paul (or whomever actually wrote it) on this as well? :

"The women must keep silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak out, but must place themselves in submission, as the oral law also says."

1 Corinthians 14:34

Or these gems:

"I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve, and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet women shall be saved through bearing children, if she continues in faith and love and holiness with modesty."

"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. "

According to Bachmann's beliefs these preclude her from becoming President.

I just hope she doesn't also wrongly attribute those tenets to 'the Lord'.

Be nice Prag I'm planning on visiting the NE Kingdom next Spring and I was thinking of possibly buying you a drink

Very nice, Gimme. But you'd have to be driving. The Northeast Kingdom is pretty far from me--probably two hours. What's taking you there? Pretty remote...

I'm planning on visiting the NE Kingdom next Spring

Lovely pic, JPW!

I just wish I'd taken it LOL

"You want to sit on your fat ass and tell Christians why they are wrong, but you don't know anything you are talking about."

A. My ass isn't fat. I'm in great shape.
#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2011-08-13 05:14 PM

Ask his wife, not only are they the same size 1, but he admits to playing both gender roles. Pretty much explains why he is upset Bachmann quoted the bible about women being submissive to their husbands.

I just looked at her quote. WTF? Submission=respect? Huh?! Submission to me means you're giving the other person the power (and no, I don't mean sexually). Weird.

Ask his wife, not only are they the same size 1, but he admits to playing both gender roles.

You're still playing that schoolyard shit?

Pretty much explains why he is upset Bachmann quoted the bible about women being submissive to their husbands.

You probably force it don't you? Otherwise you feel all inadequate when your woman does something that vexes you like ties her own shoes.

The question asked by the conservative from National Review was a good one. Michelle Bachmann told people she did something she did not want to do because the Lord told her to "be submissive" to her husband.

I am completely on board with the idea of electing a female president. Hillary would've been a great one.

I wanted to know if Bachmann thinks her role is still to be "submissive" to her spouse, because that's not a prospect I'd welcome in a president. We'd be electing her, not her spouse.

I've seen enough Green Mountain autumns to last me a lifetime but if they still have the Craftsbury fiddlers fest I'll put my trip off 'til whenever that is cause I used to go to that thing every year

Hillary would make a good president. In addition to her experience from her current job, she has that 8 years experience running the country....

Not only that Hillary has shown bravery under enemy fire and can throw a mean vase (just ask Bubba)

After reading this thread, one thing becomes blatantly clear:

The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:14

Paul did not dislike women, AU. In Romans 16, Paul speaks of Phebe.

Phebe, our sister, who is a servant (or deaconess) of the Church which is at Cenchrea: that ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.

It's obvious that Paul has great respect for Phebe, as he did for all women.

Perhaps if you read any historical accounts at the time Paul wrote about women being silent in the church, you'd have a little better understanding of why he said that. However, God does have an order of things in this world. Men are meant to be the leaders. Unfortunately, some men do not take that responsibility nor do they take it in the context in which God had meant it.

Lisa! Glad to see your name--I was wondering about you just yesterday... Sad to see, though, that you see women as not "meant to be the leaders." But hey, beliefs are personal. I certainly wouldn't try to fight you on those! But I will ask this: What is the context in which God meant it?

Lisa's asking her husband.