Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, February 01, 2011

President Obama told the embattled president of Egypt, Hosni Mubarak, that he should not run for another term in elections and the transition must begin now. Mubarak announced today he would not seek re-election. After speaking to Mubarak by phone, Obama said, "We've borne witness to the beginning of new chapter in the history of a great country and a long-time partner of the United States."

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If this is true, will it be enough to satisfy the people?

Story has now changed to Obama asking Mubarak to not run.

Democratic governments change via elections. Not because 2% of the population shows up and screams.

He could move up the election, but an election is what is needed.

www.nytimes.com

Does Egypt's riots stop 5 times a day for prayer?

Does Egypt's riots stop 5 times a day for prayer?

#5 | Posted by kanre

Does the Tea Party shut up on Sundays?

Question: "Does Egypt's riots stop 5 times a day for prayer?"

Most of the protesters will be travelling a distance that they can consider themselves travellers and therefore pray the middle two salat, Dhuhr and Asr, together, shortening both.

Later in the evening, they may pray the evening prayers Maghrib and Isha together, shortening Isha.

The morning prayer, Fajr, must be kept to its appointed time of just before sunrise.

They should then only stop three times, that is if they are in the square the whole time. Unfortunately many will neglect their Salat, but the communal mentality of the crowd may actually improve the percentage that adhere to their required salat.

Rust never sleeps...nor does the left.

Thanks for the info Expect. I wonder if the people fighting one another pray together or not.

So, does Obama now own the outcome?

This comes out AFTER he announced he was leaving.

even if he doesn't run, i expect the protesters will want some immediate actions to pacify them until the next election.

BIG HEADLINER!!! lol...

I don't know. Wouldn't it be more legitimate if he ran and was beaten? If Mubarak is really interested in giving up, he should announce tonight that he is moving the elections to March and that he will run. May the best man beat him.

The demonstrations are impressive but there are 80 million people in that country.

I just can't wait until some other country tells one of our presidents whether he/she can run or not.

Maybe China will decide to do just that in the not to distant future. Afterall, they give us much more money than we give to Egypt.

can is not should.

even if he doesn't run, i expect the protesters will want some immediate actions to pacify them until the next election.

#12 | Posted by NotMyRealName at 2011-02-01 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag

Food usually helps. A fat society is a somewhat peaceful society.

So, does Obama now own the outcome?

#10 | Posted by American1st at 2011-02-01 02:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow....that was fast.

You're assigning blame already.

Hell, you didn't do that regarding two wars started during the last administration.....still haven't.

One asked a man not to run for re-election.....the other invaded a country to stop a man from being re-elected.......and cost thousands of US lives in doing so........but we must find a way to blame Obama for what he has done! How DARE he ask him not to run!!!

bread and circuses.

Indeed Obama owns the outcome.

My guess is that he's hoping for a purebred muslim, something along the lines of his father. His father had dreams, you know.

Someone needs to interview Rev. Wright and see what his take on this is.

Man 0bama is so lost (and the rest of the world knows it)! First, his secretary of state says Mubarark is a "friend of my family", now 0 is telling him to get out.

The same thing that happened under Carter in Iran will probably happen under Chocolate Carter in Egypt.

The same thing that happened under Carter in Iran will probably happen under Chocolate Carter in Egypt.


I doubt Reagan is going to secretly make a deal with Egypt to help him win the election in exchange for missiles considering Reagan is dead.

Question-- "I wonder if the people fighting one another pray together or not"

The purpose of Salat 5x a day is to calm tensions as much as it is to give praise to God.
During Muhamad's time, people literally prayed in peace next to those who killed and tortured their family members just months or several years earlier, before accepting Islam.
That level of forgiveness is astounding.

Having been in Egypt for several recent visits, the traffic situation alone is enough to want to take another person several rounds. The country is a pressure cooker in every manner of speaking.

#24, nice.

Someone needs to interview Rev. Wright and see what his take on this is.

#22 | Posted by Washboard

"It's The Goddamn Zionist Jew bastards!"
- rev wrong

So, does Obama now own the outcome?

#10 | Posted by American1st

does Obama really have choice?

Maybe he should have invaded them and told them how to do it? I don't think we are very good at that.

And aren't you an American too? Yes? Then you own it too. Obama speaks for you.

If we cannot support the People of Egypt to determine their own government then we are not really Americans.

You don't have enough big ads on here to justify a big headline, Rcade.

Man 0bama is so lost (and the rest of the world knows it)! First, his secretary of state says Mubarark is a "friend of my family", now 0 is telling him to get out.

Are you from Earth or just visiting?

So, does Obama now own the outcome?

#10 | Posted by American1st

Not really. Obama learned Mubarak had made this decision and then got ahead of the announcement.

I just can't wait until some other country tells one of our presidents whether he/she can run or not.

It's already happened.

The Bilderbergers didn't want JFK to run for a 2nd term.

-JeffNSkidmark

If we cannot support the People of Egypt to determine their own government then we are not really Americans.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy

Man, you're naive. You don't think that Mubarak and our people are talking and that they're trying to figure out how to manipulate the procedure and the people to keep someone in office that maintains the current power base? Dinnerboy, the same thing is happening to you on a consistent basis in our country.

"I doubt Reagan is going to secretly make a deal with Egypt to help him win the election in exchange for missiles considering Reagan is dead."

#24 | Posted by kanrei

Reagan did this before he was elected? Please tell us in detail how he accomplished this while Carter had control of the CIA, Army and all diplomatic channels. Was this while Carter was out killing rabbits?

I think you missed the joke altogether, Freddy...

yeah, Iran waited to release the hostages until just minutes after Reagan got elected for no reason.

Indeed Obama owns the outcome.

Yeah, that is true.

(But I can't help but suspect the people saying this the loudest today don't really feel like Bush owned 9/11.)

I don't think Obama is responsible for the outcome. Eqypt is a sovereign nation. No more than I think Bush could be held totally accountable for the 9/11 attack.

Decades of policy and CIA activity preceded both Bush and Obama.

The President has the positional stability of a weather vane.

yeah, Iran waited to release the hostages until just minutes after Reagan got elected for no reason.

#36 | POSTED BY NOTMYREALNAME AT 2011-02-01 03:37 PM | REPLY | FLAG

I think they heard the F-111's warming up in England.

Reagan and Iran is something that will be debated for as long as there is an America that is having troubles with Iran. Either he did something or it is the greatest random chance occurrence in the history of the world IMHO.

Look at the limpwrists throw a hissy fit if somebody dares to ask if Obama has ownership (or made an arror in judgement).

It's not like the guy is known for sound judgements. You fucking turds tried telling everyone that what he lacked in experience he'd make up for with sound/wise judgements. So far, he's a miserable failure in the judgement department. Almost every single thing he's waded in on has blown up in his face.

I know, I know, bush did something worse, which makes any valid criticism of chocolate carter void. We get it, you bitches are smitten, and nobody gonna talk no smack on yo' man...

You don't think that Mubarak and our people are talking and that they're trying to figure out how to manipulate the procedure and the people to keep someone in office that maintains the current power base?

Time will tell who is naive here. So you think we are colluding to figure out how Mubarak can hold power? Who are "our people"? Obama and Mubarak sitting in a hookah shoppee in Cairo?

Secret texting maybe?

Power loves power and will hold on as long as it can. The People of Egypt have spoken and continue to speak.

Can't you hear them? I don't think Mubarak can manipulate their way out of this one.

It doesn't matter what is negotiated behind closed doors once the people rise up.

I support them and I know Obama will too.

When the new leader of Egypt is selected I am so glad it will be Obama and not Bush who will be the one dealing with him.

or made an arror in judgement

Like spelling error with an a? =P

...and that's the news kids; I am outta here!

EGYPT'S MUBARAK TO MAKE "IMPORTANT SPEECH"

CAIRO -- Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak will make an "important speech" at the end of the day, marking his second public address since protests to his 30-year-role erupted eight days ago.
www.usatoday.com

Reagan did this before he was elected? Please tell us in detail how he accomplished this while Carter had control of the CIA, Army and all diplomatic channels.

* March 1980: Jamshid Hashimi, international arms dealer, is visited by William Casey at Washington's Mayflower Hotel, who asks that a meeting with "someone in Iran who had authority to deal on the hostages."[3]
* March 21, 1980: Jamshid Hashimi and his brother Cyrus Hashimi meet at the latter's home.[4]
* April 1980: Donald Gregg, a National Security Council aide with connections to George Herbert Walker Bush, meets Cyrus Hashimi in New York's Shazam restaurant, near Hashimi's bank.[5] Former Iranian President Bani-Sadr said in his 1991 book My Turn to Speak that he had "proof of contacts between Khomeini and the supporters of Ronald Reagan as early as the spring of 1980.... Rafsanjani, Beheshti, and Ahmed Khomeini [the Ayatollah's son] played key roles."[6]
* Last week of July 1980: At a meeting in Madrid arranged by the Hashimi brothers that includes Robert Gray, a man identified as Donald Gregg, and Mahdi Karrubi, William Casey says that if Iran could assure that American hostages were well treated until their release and were released as a "gift" to the new administration, "the Republicans would be most grateful and 'would give Iran its strength back.'"[7] Karrubi says he has "no authority to make such a commitment."
* About August 12, 1980: Karrubi meets again with Casey, saying Khomeini has agreed to the proposal. Casey agrees the next day, naming Cyrus Hashimi as middleman to handle the arms transactions. More meetings are set for October. Cyrus Hashimi purchases a Greek ship and commences arms deliveries valued at $150 million from the Israeli port of Eilat to Bandar Abbas. According to CIA sources, Hashimi receives a $7 million commission. Casey is said to use an aide named Tom Carter in the negotiations.[8]
* September 22, 1980: Iraq invades Iran.
* Late September 1980: An expatriate Iranian arms dealer named Hushang Levi claims he met with Richard V. Allen, the Reagan campaign's national security expert, Robert "Bud" McFarlane, and Lawrence Silberman, and discussed the possible exchange of F-4 parts for American hostages, but Lavi says they asserted they "were already in touch with the Iranians themselves." (Silberman, Allen, and McFarlane deny they met with Lavi, but reporter Robert Parry obtained a copy of Lavi's 1980 calendar after Lavi's death, which corroborated his the Iranian's account.)[9]
* October 15–20: Meetings are held in Paris between emissaries of the Reagan/Bush campaign, with Mr. William Casey as "key participant", and "high-level Iranian and Israeli representatives".[10]
* October 21: Iran, for reasons not explained, abruptly shifts its position in secret negotiations with the Carter administration and disclaims "further interest in receiving military equipment",[11]
* October 21–23: Israel secretly ships F-4 fighter-aircraft tires to Iran, in violation of the U.S. arms embargo, and Iran disperses the hostages to different locations.[12]
* January 20, 1981: Hostages are formally released into United States custody after spending 444 days in captivity. The release takes place just minutes after Ronald Reagan is officially sworn in as president.

If we cannot support the People of Iran (and their Green Revolution) I mean Egypt to determine their own government then we are not really Americans.

When the new leader of Egypt is selected I am so glad it will be Obama and not Bush who will be the one dealing with him.

#43 | Posted by donnerboy

The new leader will be given their blessing by the military---it's very simple and if that happens Bush II will continue as Bush I.

So, does Obama now own the outcome?

Not to the same extent Reagan owned the Beirut barracks bombing and refugee massacre and al queda and Dubya owns 9-11 and the Iranian takeover of Iraq as well as the Russian invasion of Georgia.

But not as much as Nixon owns the result in Vietnam or Ike the result in Korea.

In the sense that he did get the Egyptian military to support the protesters, Obama does.

Rust never sleeps...nor does the left.

the right never wakes up...so it all works out

Iran waited to release the hostages until just minutes after Reagan got elected for no reason.

No it was because Carter negotiated right to the end...

I know republiclowns like to think people were afraid of Reagan... republiclowns like to think people are afraid of everything they do because they are afraid of everything. A big bunch of pussies.

The fact is no one was afraid of Reagan... because Reagan... like Carter... actively tried to work with world leaders to find common ground. Though Reagan may have been puppeted in that posistion because he was losing his marbles and no one really wanted him in charge of a war... heaven knows "he" left the nation mired in its first trillion dollar deficit... and a the largest tax increase in history to cover his tracks was left to his predecessor.

Its now revealed via his family... although at no surprise to those of us that actually remember the Reagan years that he was an addle brain propped up by republiclown spin machine... and I am sure that the leaders that talked to him were well aware of that and found him charming but not one that inspired fear.

No one is afraid of the US's nuclear arsenal anymore... they get their own bombs... as the should...to keep the nuclear bullies at bay... and the spin off technology is good for a nation.

Republiclowns with their bloated sense of self like to do the cowboy bullshit... accusing everyone of being afraid of dim wits like Sarah Palin... because she is the best they got with all that tough talk backed up by nothing... except maybe waving guns in the air... sabre rattling which is why they were hawt for Bush-hole... who of course as we all know turned out to be one of hte worst president in history.

No one is afraid of Sarah... or Rimhole... Bachman... Beck-hole... Most of us find them a little annoying... and their stupidity aggravating at the same time amusing in a sick sort of way... like a dead baby joke... its sick but hard to resist laughing at... but in the end no one is afraid of these republiclown icons.

The fact will always be the republiclowns will never take away the fact that Obama's election was historical... and the worst that they can actually come up with regarding his presidency is that he uses a teleprompter... but his legacy is destined to be something far bigger than that.

but his legacy is destined to be something far bigger than that.

#51 | Posted by RightisTrite

A defunct healthcare plan that will go down in history as one of the biggest miscalulations of any president.

Not to the same extent Reagan owned the Beirut barracks bombing and refugee massacre and al queda and Dubya owns 9-11 and the Iranian takeover of Iraq as well as the Russian invasion of Georgia.
But not as much as Nixon owns the result in Vietnam or Ike the result in Korea.
In the sense that he did get the Egyptian military to support the protesters, Obama does.

#50 | POSTED BY NORTHGUY3 AT 2011-02-01 03:59 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Of course not. No Democrat owns anything according to you and your f'up list. You pathetic hack.

The fact will always be the republiclowns will never take away the fact that Obama's election was historical... and the worst that they can actually come up with regarding his presidency is that he uses a teleprompter... but his legacy is destined to be something far bigger than that.

#51 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE AT 2011-02-01 04:00 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Historical? In what way other than someone 1/2 black was elected? You stupid SOB.

Still waiting for this 'solar shingle' pushing president to lead this country. When will he tell the American people we cannot continue to borrow $.40 of every $1 we spend? When will he lead and not be concerned with his legacy as the first 1/2 non white president?

So, does Obama now own the outcome?

erm... nooooo.. Obama owns nothing relative to Egypt's choice of leader.

Egypt is a sovereign nation... Obama just has to get along or negotiate with whomever they put in charge... that is the way it is with being sovereign.

Sometimes I think the righty tighties want to get into another conflict in the M.E.

#54 | POSTED BY YOUHATEME AT 2011-02-01 04:09 PM | REPLY | FLAG: TYPICAL RACIST RANT COMEING FROM A LOSER

Historical? In what way other than someone 1/2 black was elected? You stupid SOB.

Puff up all you want... you cannot take away the significance of his presidency. You cannot take away the fact the Bush-hole was the worst president in history you stupid SOB

now go fuck yourself pussy.

When will he tell the American people we cannot continue to borrow $.40 of every $1 we spend?

You didn't give a shit when you were spending that much to kill rag heads so fuck you pig.

The President has the positional stability of a weather vane.

#39 | Posted by kanrei

It's getting comical at this point.
(People will take this the wrong way, but Bush and Obama are a lot alike in that they fucked up some really stupid shit. Caught telling lies that didn't need to be told, saying things and then a day or two later reversing course (it's not like new info came to light, they just initially spoke too soon because they're full of themselves), wading in on stuff that's none of their fucking business, etc)

So, does Obama now own the outcome?

Obama may get some credit for his Cairo speech if the Egyptians embrace democratic governance. Or blame if it becomes an Islamist state.

Historic times.

I expect Moobie will be running pretty soon.

To Riyahd.

#51 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2011-02-01 04:00 PM | Reply | Flag: Has a chronic case of the Celisary's

You're off your fucking rocker. I hope you're an act, because if somebody as stupid as you didn't exist we'd have to make you up.
Now wipe that Obama from your chin.

No Democrat owns anything according to you and your f'up list. You pathetic hack.

#53 | Posted by YouHateMe

World War 1, World War 2. Surviving the Great Depression.

I'm basing my "ownership" on the standards you rightwingnuts applied to Obama re: afghanistan and Iraq.

The right-sucking and blowing at the same time.

Again.

And no, I'm not talking about the last Vermin/Wussy get together.

But if the shoe fits.....

I think they heard the F-111's warming up in England.

The same ones that Libya took down with an M-80 taped to a bottle rocket?

But hey, we killed Momar's son. Fair trade for two soldiers, amirite?

The new leader will be given their blessing by the military---it's very simple and if that happens Bush II will continue as Bush I.

#49 | Posted by matsop

Obama is not Bush..except in your masturbation fantasies maybe.

If we cannot support the People of Iran (and their Green Revolution) I mean Egypt to determine their own government then we are not really Americans.

#48 | Posted by tontonmacoute

AS I recall we did support them and continue to support them. Or do you think we somehow are in collusion with Ahmadinejihad? Again what do you think... we should have invaded them to force them to listen to their people? I don't remember them asking us to do anything.

The People have to stand up to their own government...and continue to stand up...like the Egyptians are.

Historic times.

#59 | Posted by rcade

Indeed Even my teenagers are watching and acking questions about this...I bet there is a lot of conversations about this in the history and sociology classes. What a great lesson on Democracy and the power of the People.

....Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...

acking questions... after they ack! they ask questions too!

#63 | POSTED BY NORTHGUY3 AT 2011-02-01 04:32 PM | REPLY | FLAG

I don't see Obama 'owning' Iraq. The situation there was relatively calm when he inherited it. He simply followed the plan that was in motion.

In afghanistan, I see him with a significant piece of the ownership because he significantly escalated our presence.

Funny how you and the other brain dead from drugs hippies claim vietnam was Nixon's war.

What a great lesson on Democracy and the power of the People.

That's the part I am having trouble with. In Democracy the voice of the people is heard at the ballot box. I have seen the number as high as 2 million people protesting. There are 80 million people in Egypt. How is the protesting by less than 5% of the people considered Democratic?

Dude got over 88% of the vote in the last election.

I don't know what the majority of Egyptians are thinking and nor does anyone else. All we see is a small portion of the people are pissed. How does cowering to the demands of a minority make this a democratic process?

"Indeed Even my teenagers are watching and acking questions about this..."

For their sake, I hope they go to their mom after asking you, for accurate answers.

"Dude got over 88% of the vote in the last election."

I could be wrong, but was anyone else allowed on the ballot?

This news doesn't matter a bit. Mubarak wasn't probably going to run because of failing health, and it was assumed his son was going to run for president in another rigged election. All that went out the window when his son fled to England last week. Egypt needs to do what Jordan just did because corporation was rampant amongst Murbarak cabinet for years. The Egyptian peoples biggest gripe was the fact the Egypt has been spinning off its state-owned companies for stock market profits at the urging of international bankers for the last 20 years.

The Muslim Brotherhood is firmly in control now. This isn't settled by a long shot. If I were Israel, I'd be looking to get their nat gas from a different country.

The same ones that Libya took down with an M-80 taped to a bottle rocket?
But hey, we killed Momar's son. Fair trade for two soldiers, amirite?

#64 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2011-02-01 04:34 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

No, you are a naive fool. And it was his adopted daughter not his son.

"Dude got over 88% of the vote in the last election"

the "dude" cheated the election.

How does cowering to the demands of a minority make this a democratic process?

#68 | POSTED BY MANYPATHS AT 2011-02-01 04:46 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You might ask Anderson Cooper. He is 'on the ground' covering it. At least showing pictures of a mob.

Not really. Obama learned Mubarak had made this decision and then got ahead of the announcement.

#31 | Posted by matsop at 2011-02-01 03:24 PM

Funny how that works... Like Mubarak cared what the amateur in chief said. Now or in the past. Ironically, the economy and country are going to be in bad shape the next 8 months, and Mubarak will either for lack of a better term, feed or starve them.

Or blame if it becomes an Islamist state.

Historic times.

#59 | Posted by rcade

The way things have been going and the way he treats Islamists I'm betting that he hopes for a muslim along the lines of his father. You know his father had dreams.

Indeed Even my teenagers are watching and acking questions about this...I bet there is a lot of conversations about this in the history and sociology classes. What a great lesson on Democracy and the power of the People.

#65 | Posted by donnerboy at 2011-02-01 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Aren't you the self absorbed self thought intellectual that scolded me about proper sentance structure and spelling?

lmao

"Dude got over 88% of the vote in the last election"

the "dude" cheated the election.

#73 | Posted by klifferd

Do you know that for sure? I am pretty ignorant when it comes to Egyptian politics but that is by choice. I'm all ears to anyone who knows a lot about it. Shit, the last election was 6 years ago. If he cheated, wouldn't we have heard about it before now?

I am not trying to side with anyone here, just interested in hearing how this is somehow a glowing example of Democracy.

So far, he's a miserable failure in the judgement department. Almost every single thing he's waded in on has blown up in his face.

I know, I know, bush did something worse, which makes any valid criticism of chocolate carter void. We get it, you bitches are smitten, and nobody gonna talk no smack on yo' man...

#42 | Posted by 101Chairborne

We get it, too. You have Alzheimer's and don't have clue what Obama has accomplished, unless, of course, Fox News tells you it happened.

And nothing is Bush's fault and everything Obama touches is shit (because well he's Black! and Blacks are just assumed to have bad judgment...no proof required).

The right is right and reality is reality and never the twain shall meet.

Obama has accomplished more in the first thirty days of his Presidency than any President in modern history. All in the face of the most hostile Congress any President has faced in modern history. And that includes the Clinton years.

Would you like the list? Or would that be too much for your feeble mind to take? In your case a healthy dose of reality might be considered Torture and as we all know...

Torture Werks!™

Aren't you the self absorbed self thought intellectual that scolded me about proper sentance structure and spelling?

lmao

#77 | Posted by Washboard

I did? I generally don't do that unless you are a complete asshole....are you? Cause you mispeled sentence.

LOL

Oh good, then the CIAs man, the chief facilitator of Egyptian torture for Mubarak and the USA can run. Meanwhile the economy will continue to decline.

"Do you know that for sure? "

how would one know it for sure?

but i do know that many international groups complained about it.

www.time.com

Cause you mispeled sentence.

LOL

#80 | Posted by donnerboy at 2011-02-01 05:05 PM

Indeed I did. lmao

Musta been danforth.

I'm only an asshole to other assholes. That's how most assholes are.

donner you dumbfuck, you don't even realize you just made my point for me.
Why do you even try? I am certain you make the handful of rational libs around here cringe when you share your stupidity. You can't honestly think your post had a point. Fuck off, retard.

I'll try to make certain I don't mispel it again.

mispeled sentence.

LOL

#80 | Posted by donnerboy

LOL indeed, dummy.

Less is Mobark.

I'm only an asshole to other assholes. That's how most assholes are.

#83 | Posted by Washboard

Hmmm I would like to think the same thing about me...but that is for others to ultimately decide..and with Tards like Chairpoodles I can definitely be an Asshole!

Now that is just a classic string of posts there fellas! I think you all owe each other a beer.

No, you are a naive fool. And it was his adopted daughter not his son.

Are you suggesting our soldier's lives weren't worth it since instead of a potential heir to the throne, all we got was some crappy adopted daughter?

Lord have mercy this thread is full of the most idiotic posts. Congratulations morons!

You can't honestly think your post had a point. Fuck off, retard.

#84 | Posted by 101Chairborne

tisk tisk...such gutter language!

did I piss off the Poodle? Call 1-800-Whaaaa!

I guess you sure told me!

Oh Poodles Dear...how is that Alzheimer's coming along...oh that's right... the great thing about getting Alzheimer's you don't even know you have it.

lucky you.

poor us.

Well, from my perspective you definitely have something awful so it really great that Obama had that mental health parity clause put into HCR for you... so you really should take advantage of it right away before you blow a gasket and we read about you in the news someday.

Then you can say Obama did something for you too!

"Obama has accomplished more in the first thirty days of his Presidency than any President in modern history. All in the face of the most hostile Congress any President has faced in modern history."

Er, I hope those teenagers you have do not go to you for simple math. The new Congress was sworn in on Jan 3rd, 2011 hasn't even been 30 days there Einstein. Unless of course you are going back to 2009, then of course I would hope your teenagers do not go to you for a simple civics lessen. The dems controlled both Houses back then. Looks like you are out of gas, no matter how one spins it.

I'll try to make certain I don't mispel it again.

#85 | Posted by Washboard

thats why I use a Spel Chkr

Who here hates 101? Raise your hand!!!

#93 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2011-02-01 05:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

So in order for Congress to be considered "hostile" to the President it must be controlled by the opposing party? That's a pretty limited definition there.

thats why I use a Spel Chkr

#94 | Posted by donnerboy at 2011-02-01 05:26 PM

Agatha Chrisite and WB Yeats couldnt spell for shit, and they knew it. I think they're pretty well known writers. Just go tell 101 to go fuck himself. He'll understand that.

You poor retards let me get too far in to your empty little melons. The chairborne flu is for reals, yo.

So in order for Congress to be considered "hostile" to the President it must be controlled by the opposing party? That's a pretty limited definition there.

#96 | Posted by taxman

Well it certainly would make more sense than referring to a democratic controlled house being the most hostile congress ever (considering the president is a dem).
We all know that pom pom waving bitch dummerboy isn't very well grounded to begin with, but when it comes to his jungle fever, he's downright fucking crazy. Look at that bitch defend his man.

Who here hates 101? Raise your hand!!!

I adamantly place both hands on my desk, and kindly tell you, and every other Red Sux Fan, to fade away into obscurity like your team.

How will Chair ever get out from under your skin now?

The chairborne flu is for reals, yo.

#98 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2011-02-01 05:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Identity crisis. White boy thinks he's Eminem. Now he thinks he's a flu symptom.

#99 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2011-02-01 05:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm not saying he's right, I'm just nothing that CC has a pretty tight definition of "hostile" in the given circumstance. The minority does have some power - filibusters, holds, etc. - which can create a bit of a hostile environment, but certainly the last Congress was not the most hostile in history.

I adamantly place both hands on my desk, and kindly tell you, and every other Red Sux Fan, to fade away into obscurity like your team.

#100 | Posted by taxman at 2011-02-01 05:35 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Didn't know so many people like Chairborne. Maybe we should just change his name to Jim Jones. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

I don't think redsox gets this place. Nobody explain it to him, it will be our little secret.

Maybe you should learn to not take Chair so seriously and enjoy him for what he brings to some threads. Fuck, it's not that hard.

Fuck

Unless of course you are going back to 2009, then of course I would hope your teenagers do not go to you for a simple civics lessen. The dems controlled both Houses back then.

Oh crispee guess you got me...

well it is true that the real filibustering and hostility didn't begin until Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown captured the seat of the late Sen. Ted Kennedy so it was "almost" like they had a free ride for the first thirty days to accomplish what they did but it was because (as you may recall) the "People had Spoken". And, as you yourself know, Republicans were still very hostile during that time they just couldn't do much about during in the first 30 days.

That still does not diminish those accomplishments.

They/you are still very hostile and even in the face of that in the last 2 years Obama has still Saved the economy, passed Health Care Reform, passed the Matthew Shepherd & Lilly Ledbetter acts, passed START, passed CHIP, spent billions on infrastructure, Science & Technology, fixed (stopped the banks leeching of) the student loans, and extended health insurance to millions of low-income children just to name a few.

So in order for Congress to be considered "hostile" to the President it must be controlled by the opposing party? That's a pretty limited definition there.

#96 | Posted by taxman at 2011-02-01 05:29 PM

You need to go back and look at the limited thought given post by Dooner.

His first 30 days in office was in 2009 and he had a dem controlled House and Senate. He hasn't had 30 days this year with a hostile Congress if they were sworn in Jan 3rd. Not that it matters, and Doooner is talking out of his ass. Has he even signed anything this year written by the new majority?

We all know that pom pom waving bitch dummerboy isn't very well grounded to begin with, but when it comes to his jungle fever, he's downright fucking crazy. Look at that bitch defend his man.

#99 | Posted by 101Chairborne

ahh this coming from the likes of you surely has made my day.

I can rest now.

Fun! Fun! Fun!

We'll have fun, fun, fun till Daddy takes Mubarak away!

Har! har!

Watch things disintegrate now. No one is throwing a bone to the old dog. Woof! Woof! Woof!

Just goes to show that old dictators don't fade away. They only leave when forced out through blood and iron. I'm sure that all these Egyptian protestors are going to remember the USA's support of Mubarak and turn hostile eyes towards the USA and Israel.

At least the future won't be dull. There will be interesting things for the news to report on for years to come. Look at the dark clouds. A bloodbath is coming!

#109 | Posted by crispee_oc

if you don't think the republicans in the last congress were hostile to the president then you just haven't been paying attention...maybe you need to get your mouth off of chairs poodle and come up for air.

I am sure it is a matter of "opinion" whether they were the MOST hostile but that is certainly my (and many others) opinion and I for one am sticking to it.

As for the first 30 days... they were as hostile as they are now...just couldn't do much about it as the Dems did have a filibuster proof majority.

Maybe you should learn to not take Chair so seriously and enjoy him for what he brings to some threads. Fuck, it's not that hard.

#106 | Posted by Manypaths at 2011-02-01 05:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, I get it now. Its like fucking around with the retarded kid. Ok Many...thx for the enlightening moment. I'll just sit back and let 101 humor me. Adios.

"if you don't think the republicans in the last congress were hostile to the president then you just haven't been paying attention...maybe you need to get your mouth off of chairs poodle and come up for air."

I only went by your post dumb fuck. How the hell could I think anything, when it made no fucking sense. Don't blame me chair points out and proves you are a retard.

"As for the first 30 days... they were as hostile as they are now...just couldn't do much about it as the Dems did have a filibuster proof majority."

Not what you said, you claimed he accomplished more in the first thirty days with a hostile congress, and offered to post them. Fire away, and link the accomplishments of this year. Oh wait, he couldn't do much about it.

Can you see why one may be confused, or call you a retard?

I'm sure that all these Egyptian protestors are going to remember the USA's support of Mubarak and turn hostile eyes towards the USA and Israel.

and I am sure you don't have a clue. Obama made clear in his Cairo speech that we support democracy for the Egyptian people.

He made it very clear.

"The fourth issue that I will address is democracy.

I know there has been controversy about the promotion of democracy in recent years, and much of this controversy is connected to the war in Iraq. So let me be clear: no system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other.

That does not lessen my commitment, however, to governments that reflect the will of the people. Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, grounded in the traditions of its own people. America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election. But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn't steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose. Those are not just American ideas, they are human rights, and that is why we will support them everywhere.

Continue reading on Examiner.com: A look back at President Obama's Cairo speech in light of Egypt protests (Video) - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com www.examiner.com

"and I am sure you don't have a clue. Obama made clear in his Cairo speech that we support democracy for the Egyptian people."

lmao...

Which is why the WH has been saying a transition of reforms and policies. Nothing about him stepping down which 1,000,000 protestors have been yelling for a wek now.

Now of course the lizard in chief is going to make a speech. Now that Mubarak announced he is stepping down. In September? Like the Nobel he never earned, he will take credit for backing the protestors and claim he told Mubarak not to seek re-election.

Guess we know how he will be handling all the other ME countries when they decide to protest.

They/you are still very hostile and even in the face of that in the last 2 years Obama has still Saved the economy,

#108 | Posted by donnerboy

Doesn't understand economics and the fact that Obummer and
the Bernank have just kicked the can down the road again. They learned well from Bushy and Greenspam. We will pay for the "last 2 years Obama has still saved the economy". The only thing Obummer hopes is that this holds together until the next election.

#117...
He is as done as Mubarak. Hell, we may not see another black president in our lifetime.

Nothing about him stepping down which 1,000,000 protestors have been yelling for a wek now.

Our President should tell another President to step down OC? Are you really suggesting that?

Like the Nobel he never earned, he will take credit for backing the protestors and claim he told Mubarak not to seek re-election.

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't right? Is there anything you won't complain about when it comes to your President? In one post you claim he should have told an elected President to step down and then in the same post criticize him for suggesting that he not run again.

Do you see that? No matter what, you are going to hate your President. You make that crystal clear. You are simply a hater. Right?

He is as done as Mubarak. Hell, we may not see another black president in our lifetime.

#118 | Posted by crispee_oc

You are simply a hater. Right?

You managed to answer before the question popped up. Well done! Ever try to get on Jeopardy?

#117...
He is as done as Mubarak. Hell, we may not see another black president in our lifetime.

#118 | Posted by crispee_oc

We may not see another lefty in my son's lifetime. Unless the American people are fooled again.

"Do you see that? No matter what, you are going to hate your President. You make that crystal clear. You are simply a hater. Right?"

No, I am an asshole with an opinion.

"In one post you claim he should have told an elected President to step down and then in the same post criticize him for suggesting that he not run again."

When that thong gets to tight Many, it affects your comprehension skills. Where or when did I post that? You can't be foolish enough to mean this one:

"Now of course the lizard in chief is going to make a speech. Now that Mubarak announced he is stepping down. In September? Like the Nobel he never earned, he will take credit for backing the protestors and claim he told Mubarak not to seek re-election."

Not what you said, you claimed he accomplished more in the first thirty days with a hostile congress,

Actually not what I said...I said:

"Obama has accomplished more in the first thirty days of his Presidency than any President in modern history. All in the face of the most hostile Congress any President has faced in modern history."

The (republican part of the) congress was hostile and still is. Even still most of his major accomplishments have occurred after that and I could have pointed that out but why should I bother when Poodles doesn't even bother to try to hover near the truth.

I suppose I could have been clearer for your sake...not that I actually said anything that was not true.

It is interesting how even when what I said was accurate you jump like hyenas on rotten meat yet Thugs like Poodles have no compunction with spouting lies and tripe like this bullshit he's a miserable failure in the judgement department. Almost every single thing he's waded in on has blown up in his face.

with no supporting evidence whatsoever and you just suck it up...just like a good teabagger should.

He is as done as Mubarak. Hell, we may not see another black president in our lifetime.

#118 | Posted by crispee_oc

You are simply a hater. Right?

You managed to answer before the question popped up. Well done! Ever try to get on Jeopardy?

#120 | Posted by Manypaths

No, "moderhate" is the only hater we know on these threads.

No, I am an asshole with an opinion.

Oh, well that's different and something I completely understand.

"We may not see another lefty in my son's lifetime. "

I'm still waiting to see the first lefty president in my lifetime. It certainly isn't Obama.

The only thing Obummer hopes is that this holds together until the next election.

#117 | Posted by matsop

Well, as you yourself should know by now it may take decades to recover from the Bush Error.

Hell, we may not see another black president in our lifetime.

#118 | Posted by crispee_oc

you that old that you won't make it till 2012?

So sad...for you.

Hell, we may not see another black president in our lifetime.
#118 | Posted by crispee_oc

"you that old that you won't make it till 2012?"

"So sad...for you."

Errr, if Obama is re-elected in 2012, he is still the same black president Doooner. Notice the word "another" in my post?

Hell, we may not see another black president in our lifetime.

#118 | Posted by crispee_oc

I happen to agree given the fact that we live in a time where some people will blame all of the worlds' problems, including Egypt's problems on the color of a man's skin. Sadly, that is real in America today.

Not what you said, you claimed he accomplished more in the first thirty days with a hostile congress,

Actually not what I said...I said:

"Obama has accomplished more in the first thirty days of his Presidency than any President in modern history. All in the face of the most hostile Congress any President has faced in modern history."

#123 | Posted by donnerboy

Dinnerboy would fit well into my company. I've got plenty of employees that are CTA (new acronym, dinner----covering their ass). Dinner must feel that it was a "hostile congress" because the dems hid everything from the American people, lied to the American people and didn't listen to the American people. The rethugs could do nothing since they were shut out of the process and the dems were in the majority. So the rethugs (in dinner's eyes) must have been hostile (since they had no power) because they warned people about what was going on, stuck out their tongues, made faces, called the Obummer a liar, and all kinds of other hostile stuff we're unaware of. Dinner is trying to pry himself out of another knothole he's managed to wedge himself into.

"I happen to agree given the fact that we live in a time where some people will blame all of the worlds' problems, including Egypt's problems on the color of a man's skin. Sadly, that is real in America today."

One would think his name and color would be a positive when dealing with Egypt. Guess we will never know, seeing as the administration has downplayed the events, and spoke one time about the protests the last eight days. Much more important Hillary go check up on Bill in Haiti, while the ME erupts.

I happen to agree given the fact that we live in a time where some people will blame all of the worlds' problems, including Egypt's problems on the color of a man's skin. Sadly, that is real in America today.

#130 | Posted by Manypaths

Maybe because his ability is only skin deep without "character".

"Dinner is trying to pry himself out of another knothole he's managed to wedge himself into."

You mean he is Touche Turtle?

"I want to come home mr wizard, I want to come home"

"Drizzle, drazzle, druzzle, drome; time for zis one to come home."

#133 | Posted by matsop

Just for the record I have determined that you are an idiot. Go play with Eddie and Mitch. You all will have a ball together. The children's play room is down the hall.

"Maybe because his ability is only skin deep without "character"."

We gave him a twenty spot (hope) and he returned with enough (change) for a ten.

"Dinner is trying to pry himself out of another knothole he's managed to wedge himself into."

You mean he is Touche Turtle?

"I want to come home mr wizard, I want to come home"

"Drizzle, drazzle, druzzle, drome; time for zis one to come home."

#134 | Posted by crispee_oc

When we repartee with Fewpaths and Dinnerboy, they're chronically responding with "touche" while on our side we're consistently responding with "pas de touche".

Errr, if Obama is re-elected in 2012, he is still the same black president Doooner. Notice the word "another" in my post?

#129 | Posted by crispee_oc

touché

(btw-I loved Touche Turtle!)

It will be awesome if you and the Poodles are still around to enjoy Obamas second term with me. We might actually be making some real progress recovering from the Bush Error by then. And maybe we can finally convince Chair to get that mental health and anger management therapy he so desperately cries out for.

Oh dear Matsop... someone just called you an idiot.

I guess that means its true then.

Can we go back to discussing Mubarak and the historic events unfolding in Egypt yet?

Oh dear Matsop... someone just called you an idiot.

I guess that means its true then.

#139 | Posted by donnerboy

Oh, that. That was manypaths and there's something you should know about manypaths: manypaths lead to his house but fewpaths (synapses) lead to his cerebrum.

he will take credit for backing the protestors and claim he told Mubarak not to seek re-election.

Guess we know how he will be handling all the other ME countries when they decide to protest.

#116 | Posted by crispee_oc

You mean with a good measure of caution and common sense and restraint and respect for the thirty years we have worked with Mubarak?

It would just kill you to give Obama credit for anything good wouldn't it Critter?

I say good on him! He handled it fine. And why shouldn't he take some credit for responding sensibly and not inflaming the situation and allowing the people of Egypt to decide for themselves what kind of government they want and not make it about us for a change.

We already know that no matter what approach Obama takes and whatever the outcome you and the Thuggish Right will find that Obama is justa miserable failure in the judgement department. Almost every single thing he's waded in on has blown up in his face.

I say good on him! He handled it fine. And why shouldn't he take some credit for responding sensibly and not inflaming the situation and allowing the people of Egypt to decide for themselves what kind of government they want and not make it about us for a change.

#141 | Posted by donnerboy

Obummer did okay but he didn't have many options----any president would have the same talking points. We've been through these things in the past and it's not like our folks are able to influence these kind of events at all. So you say the usual: We are encouraging an orderly transition (?we are encouraging rioting, burning, looting, the hanging of Mubarak, etc.) and we encourage free elections so that the will of the people is heard. Now how difficult is that? You open your mouth and say what everyone expects you to say---the usual B.S.

The only thing Obummer hopes is that this holds together until the next election.

#117 | Posted by matsop

Well, as you yourself should know by now it may take decades to recover from the Bush Error.

#127 | Posted by donnerboy

It's decades now (?) when the Obummer told us right after his election that within one year unemployment would be 81/2% with his stimulus.

"Obummer did okay but he didn't have many options----any president would have the same talking points."

The options don't occur when you are reactive.

The question is will this calm the people, and the answer is.....
news.yahoo.com

Thanks for playing!

Kinda strong language, saying the transition should begin now, as opposed to waiting until the next election cycle in 8 months.

"And maybe we can finally convince Chair to get that mental health and anger management therapy he so desperately cries out for."

You will see Chuck Norris in a gay porn flick before that happens.

"Obama is justa miserable failure in the judgement department. Almost every single thing he's waded in on has blown up in his face."

The few times he actually did wade in, were the likes of Skip Gates, SB-1070, BP spill, the debt commission report, the oil spill commission report, Unemployment...How much time you got?

Quick O'bummer needs a smoke to get over his stage fright. The podium is waiting faux him. But O what a bummer, there's a Hash Crisis and as a result there's draught unrest millions in Hash Crisis.

OK found that... will change the leader... Oh its that internet thing? Yea like have no food govt w/ this... meet the new boss...

End the WOD woos.

Why has Obama secretly kissing the Muslim Brotherhoods ass?

www.bloomberg.com

Step down now???

And Mubarak is laughing, saying, "You want it when?"

Har! har!

Millions of people demonstrating, and in so many words he says, "Piss on you!"

It's a riot! I can just imagine the expression on the faces of those in the crowds! Har! Har!

Funny how you and the other brain dead from drugs hippies claim vietnam was Nixon's war.

Well, based on Obama owning both of Bush's wars about 30 seconds after his swearing in, according to your fellow righties, Nixon sure as hell owned Viet nam after 4 years. LBJ, like GWB may have started the war ( don't quibble about JFK) but after he left office, again according to your fellow righties, the outcome was none of his responsibility. Like Truman and Korea.

the outcome was none of his responsibility

So LBJ was magically absolved of being responsible for 2/3 of casualties during vietnam just because he left officee? LOL And Nixon gets no credit for bringing home the troops and casualties his first year in office?

Why do partisan apologists make such asses of themselves with what they say? LOL LBJ is dead. Quit defending him. Or keep defending him and prove what a fool you are, just as you do with everything you post

And Nixon gets no credit for bringing home the troops and casualties his first year in office?

Reminder: Nixon was elected in 1968. Reelected in 1972.

Reminder: Nixon was elected in 1968. Reelected in 1972.

Yes, I know. And troop casualties started falling in 1969 after about two thirds of the total casualties had already happened on LBJ's watch

en.wikipedia.org

I still don't understand why someone would think LBJ isn't responsible for the outcome of that war (which was about 55,000 casualties) when 2/3 of them happened why he was president.

Blind partisanship and more lies from NG3 are the only answers I can come up with

I still don't understand why someone would think LBJ isn't responsible for the outcome of that war (which was about 55,000 casualties) when 2/3 of them happened why he was president.

I had a different attitude towards LBJ after listening to his WH phone calls over Vietnam. Pressure from all sides. Johnson seemed very torn up about Vietnam in '64. Sadly, we still haven't recovered from what the Vietnam war did to this country's psyche. Divisiveness began in earnest.

As fiction author Pat Conroy put it in "Beach Music" (ph): "Vietnam is the first foreign American war that turned into a civil war at home". Sadly, the ideological civil war never really ended since the 'us vs them' ideological war among us began. Questioning each others patriotism, etc.

I don't know. Wouldn't it be more legitimate if he (Mubarak) ran and was beaten? If Mubarak is really interested in giving up, he should announce tonight that he is moving the elections to March and that he will run. May the best man beat him.

The demonstrations are impressive but there are 80 million people in that country.

#14 | Posted by Manypaths

Mubarak changed their constitution in 2005, virtually wiping out political opposition from being viable candidates. It needs to be rewritten to allow free and fair elections. Seems the way he's willing to use violence to retain power (as he's done for 30 years) he's not about to let a fair election take place with his name on the ballot.

Have you heard about the massacre in Tahir Square? I think I hear the screams of people being crushed under the weight of capitalism.

Mubarak has shown himself to be a true business man with all his billions. He'd be at hone here in the USA. And so the poor working man gets crushed again.

To the people of Egypt. Go back to your mud huts, flies, and bowls of rice. Demonstrate no more! Besides you are too backwards to appreciate the finer things of life that Mubarak and his rich associates have.

And plutocrats in Washington dance with glee as they too make plans to gut health insurance, workers rights, and social security. All this while giving big, big tax breaks to the rich!!!

And Nixon gets no credit for bringing home the troops and casualties his first year in office?

you are full of shit
you may want to rin se your mouth

Blind partisanship and more lies
are the only answers I can come up with

No shit

Blind partisanship and more lies from NG3 are the only answers I can come up with

#154 | Posted by goatman

Well, blind partisanship IS your specialty so you would know all about that.

Democratic governments change via elections. Not because 2% of the population shows up and screams.

He could move up the election, but an election is what is needed.

#3 | Posted by Manypaths

Kinda like the Tea Party thinks it represents the majority of Americans because they showed up and screamed one day?

And this might be a really good point except for the fact that Egypt does not even have a Democratic government at the moment. I believe that is what they are asking for.

A Representative government instead of a dictatorship.

¨¨Well, blind partisanship IS your specialty so you would know all about ¨that.

Odd. I am always saying both parties suck.

I love your responses to me. Every single one, without excpeption say ¨KICK ME¨¨

LOL

Well how fucking stupid can a government and country be to close internet and cell phone to the masses.

It is clear to do such is to rule without people support, welcome obama, to support the banning of internet and cell phone access but don't let the president run for office again...lol.

So glad he is a one term president.

Elected, fair and square, numbnuts.

He better trot out Hillary again on Sunday so she can clarify and specify what the hell she was saying last weekend on Meet the Press and This Week with Christine Imawhore.

Comrades! Do you actually expect Mubarak to step down at the end of his term? Don't be ridiculous! His only chance now is to hold onto power for as long as possible. If he leaves the country, the assassins will follow him.

An orderly transition of power doesn't seem possible any longer. Keep in mind that it isn't just the lives of Mubarak and his family at stake. You also have to consider the lives of his family, the plutocrats, and the bourgeois.

I expect the army to crack down, and a massacre to follow. The surviving leaders will be rounded up and sent to concentration camps.

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