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Sunday, November 21, 2010

Saturday is National Adoption Day. This year, Martin Gill is free to mark the day as the official father to two foster children he's been raising since a caseworker dropped the boys on his North Miami doorstep six years ago.

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I foresee a natural disaster, likely a hurricane but possibly a meteor, striking Florida in the next year. In allowing the sodomites the right to adopt, Florida has surely brought upon itself the fiery wrath of god!
~Rev. Cletus K Herrenficker

About damn time.

Better gay adoptive parents than no adoptive parents at all. Gays have demonstrated greater willingness to adopt special-needs children, mixed-race children, even HIV-positive children.

And studies have shown they are doing a fine job with their kids. So, glad to see Florida has joined the 21st century in this respect at least.

In The Name Of The Gay And Transgendered Community, I Command
The Reich-Wingers Hatred Of Gay Babies Stop This Very Instance.

Be Well.

#1 | Posted by ZombieHunter

"Herrenficker" is great.

But "possibly a meteor" is what makes the post Art.

What a dumb law. Caring parents are rare, and kids need to be adopted.

I know a gay couple that adopted two special needs brothers about 7 years ago. My hat is off to them, I would not make the sacrifice and since they were not babies they would have been stuck in foster care.

Maybe God made gays to take care of special needs kids.

Gays are not second-class citizens but a gay man certainly makes a second-class mother. Two lesbian women may be model citizens, but neither of them can be a Dad to a little boy. The most serious objection to gay marriage is that it means gay parenting, and gay parenting means depriving a child of either his mother or his father. The gay marriage debate, at its heart, is not about the rights and needs of the adults, but of the child.

There are already tragic situations where a child is deprived of a mother or a father – such as the death or desertion of a parent. Some broken families reform as a homosexual household, and nothing can or should be done about that. But such tragedy and brokenness should not be wilfully inflicted on a child by the law of the land.

A child needs at least the chance of a Mum and a Dad in her life, and same-sex marriage makes that impossible. This violation of the fundamental right and profound emotional need of a child means – from the child's perspective – that gay marriage is deprivation, not liberation.

Maybe God made gays to take care of special needs kids.
#6 | Posted by bored

A politically correct post if I ever heard one. A real gem. Nice work!

With the legal proceedings behind him, Gill, a flight attendant for American Airlines, can now get on with the business of being dad.

So glad this guy has the time to take care of these kids. Hey, it's 'Merica, and everyone has the right to fuck up. and now we have the right to fuck innocent kids, "because it makes us feel ssspecial"

One final thought, how are they going to explain those special visitors that daddy 2 has while daddy 1 is away?

I foresee a natural disaster, likely a hurricane but possibly a meteor, striking Florida in the next year.""

Maybe not, but I can tell you about two very innocent children who are going to have a disastrous childhood.

He didn't speak for the first month, and then he whispered. When Gill tried to hug him, he backed away;

Kids got more sense than most adults. I dont believe the NAACP is letting this go on. They should be having a shit fit.

One thing which is pretty clear, most gay parents will be better than the parents of AMERICANPLY who seemed to have created a hate filled POS.

So glad this guy has the time to take care of these kids. Hey, it's 'Merica, and everyone has the right to fuck up. and now we have the right to fuck innocent kids, "because it makes us feel ssspecial"

#9 | Posted by americanPLY

So all the children who have been adopted by gays in every other state where this has already been allowed have been victims of rape for all these years and we've never heard about it?

This is a tragedy of epic proportions. You should do something about it.

two very innocent children who are going to have a disastrous childhood

What deranged reasoning led you to this conclusion?

A child needs at least the chance of a Mum and a Dad in her life

That isn't always possible. Welcome to reality, Hlooneybin. I imagine even someone as thoroughly fucking incompetent as you would find any sort of loving family structure superior to continued foster care.

After all, you say you care foremost about the kids. Not your silly superstitions. Was that a lie?

One name, and one name only. Frank Lombard

One thing you idiots dont understand, is that now predators are GOING to actively attempt to adopt children, and there is nothing to stop the state from setting guidelines to prevent it from happening because it would be "discrimination". On this point, the pro-gay crowd loses, and loses big. These two innocent kids are now going to be the unwitting centerpeice for the advancement of clinically ill people.

When I think of "gay" I dont conceive of two people having sex, I imagine a crazy driver taking a right turn off of the highway at full speed and crashing into a brick building. I would FURTHER emphasize the point that this man is a transient "laborer". It's hard enough on the children of military personnel (I know, I'm a navy brat), now add a dysfunctional AND absentee father to the mix. Oh, wait, you have to be a MAN to be a father.

Excuse me, but this pissed me off when I read it several months ago, and it enfuriaties me now. Children being used for political purposes. You people disgust me.

oh, and btw, Frank Lombard.

One thing you idiots dont understand, is that now predators are GOING to actively attempt to adopt children

Nothing was stopping them from doing so in the past.

The fact that you think otherwise is revealing. You're one of of those babbling little shits who can't distinguish homosexuality and pedophilia, aren't you?

Nothing was stopping them from doing so in the past. ""

Except for regulations restricting adoption to heterosexual married couples. There was a risk before, but now you have multiplied the odds. Did I mention Frank Lombard?

Hey, there is one benefit here. The demand for the adoption of young teen males will probably triple.

#21 | Posted by ZombieHunter

No more than the intellectual pennyweights that cannot distinguish right from wrong.

Oh, lest we forget, Frank Lombard.

When I think of "gay" I dont conceive of two people having sex, I imagine a crazy driver taking a right turn off of the highway at full speed and crashing into a brick building. I would FURTHER emphasize the point that this man is a transient "laborer". It's hard enough on the children of military personnel (I know, I'm a navy brat), now add a dysfunctional AND absentee father to the mix. Oh, wait, you have to be a MAN to be a father.
-AmericanPLY
This shining little gem speaks for itself. I'm left wondering, however, what brand of air duster you're huffing today.

Except for regulations restricting adoption to heterosexual married couples. There was a risk before, but now you have multiplied the odds.

How does one "multiply the odds" of child abuse by allowing gay adoption?

Did I mention Frank Lombard?

Did I mention that anecdotes are meaningless? Lombard was also an Episcopal. Applying your pathetic excuse for logic, Episcopals should not be allowed to adopt because of the Lombard case.

If you want to make a case against gay adoption, surely you have some actual data to support yourself. Or are you just another gibbering piece of shit with a well-thumped bible?

One thing you idiots dont understand, is that now predators are GOING to actively attempt to adopt children, and there is nothing to stop the state from setting guidelines to prevent it from happening because it would be "discrimination".
#18 | Posted by americanPLY

Have you ever gone through the adoption process? Do you know whats involved? Can you name me any of the current guidelines? You, sir, are an idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about.

and there is nothing to stop the state from setting guidelines to prevent it from happening
#18 | Posted by americanPLY

So states will be able to prevent heterosexual pedophiles from adopting but not homosexual ones? Is this what you are saying? Or are you saying that heterosexual pedophiles have been adopting children for years all over the country?

This is an even bigger tragedy. You should do something about this.

I guess you missed the part where I mentioned Frank Lombard Moss. Thats the point i'm making. That, and time and time again, i've stated that dysfunctional people can't raise children to be functional adults. I said it before, i'll say it again. Allowing gays to adopt is going to multiply the odds of pedophiles attempting and succeeding in adopting children. Did you ever hear of a guy named Frank Lombard?

Children are not pets. They are human beings, and the state is obligated to make decisions in their best interests. This isnt a decision in their best interest, and this dipshit adoptive "father" isnt acting in their best interests. The article says it clearly, hes an activist, and he is using INNOCENT CHILDREN to further a political agenda.

"One thing you idiots dont understand, is that now predators are GOING to actively attempt to adopt children, and there is nothing to stop the state from setting guidelines to prevent it from happening because it would be "discrimination"."

Riiight. I have to say from the number of posts, AMERICANPLY has some kind of personality disorder, I would not let him adopt a puppy.

Whatever takes the emphasis on Frank Lombard Danni.

A child needs at least the chance of a Mum and a Dad in her life, and same-sex marriage makes that impossible. This violation of the fundamental right and profound emotional need of a child means – from the child's perspective – that gay marriage is deprivation, not liberation.

#7 | Posted by Hlloona at 2010-11-22 09:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, you're saying you'd rather they be left to rot in an orphanage than to have somebody to call mom or dad?

I'm willing to bet that the kids that are adopted are very much 'liberated' from the hell that must come with being an orphan.

One final thought, how are they going to explain those special visitors that daddy 2 has while daddy 1 is away?

#10 | Posted by americanPLY at 2010-11-23 12:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

The same way many married straight women or men explain 'special visitors' to their kids when their spouse is away.

You're a total douche-nozzle.

I guess you missed the part where I mentioned Frank Lombard Moss. Did you ever hear of a guy named Frank Lombard?

#30 | Posted by americanPLY

Are you suggesting that every gay man is capable of being a Frank Lombard? Or just the ones that want to adopt?

I guess you missed the part where I mentioned Frank Lombard

I guess you missed the post where I explained why the Lombard anecdote is irrelevant. Now did you have something else you wanted to discuss, shit for brains?

Homosexual partner relationships are significantly and
substantially less stable and more short-lived on the average compared to a
marriage of a man and a woman, thereby inevitably contributing to a
substantially higher rate of household transitions in adoptive or foster
homes with a homosexually-behaving adult. Large nationally
representative household studies by the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention in the United States, and by international investigators, for
example, in Great Britain, New Zealand, and in the homosexual tolerant
culture of the Netherlands, have all recently established that the majority of
homosexually-behaving men and women have a life-time prevalence of one
or more debilitating psychiatric disorders; while the majority of
heterosexually-behaving men and women do not have a lifetime prevalence
of any mental disorder. Homosexually-behaving adults also inherently
suffer significantly and substantially higher rates of partner relationship
breakups, suicidal ideation, suicide attempt, completed suicide, conduct
disorder, criminality and illegal substance abuse. Therefore, as a group,
households with a resident homosexually-behaving adult are substantially
less capable of providing the best psychologically-stable and secure home
environments especially needed by children in need of placement for
adoption or foster care or other form of custody.

This greater instability would inevitably necessitate more frequent
child removal for transition to an alternate placement. Further, this
relationship instability in households with a homosexually-behaving adult
would also contribute to a potentially higher risk of removal due to the
sexual abuse of a child by that homosexual. Adopted children and foster
children have already typically suffered one or more traumatic transitions,
and more frequent traumatic transitions would be necessary for children in
homosexual-headed households, thereby resulting in greater psychological
harm and psychosocial maladjustment. The Adoption Assistance and Child
Welfare Act of 1980, Public Law 92-272, shifted the focus of the child
placement system to minimizing child removal rates, and Public Law 105-
89 requires practices to enhance safety of the placed child. Therefore, it is
in the best interests of children to be placed in adoptive or foster homes that
include only married or single heterosexual adults because they are
substantially more stable and safe, eliminating the unique risk of higher
rates of child removal inherent to households with a homosexual adult.

The best child adjustment results from living with a married man and woman compared to other family structures. It is clearly in the best interests of children to be placed with exclusively heterosexual married couple families because this natural family structure inherently provides unique needed benefits and produces better child adjustment than is generally present in households with a homosexually-behaving adult. Published studies purporting there is "no difference" between child outcomes by homosexual parenting versus heterosexual parenting are demonstrated to be methodologically flawed and not conducted on adopted and foster children who have high rates of psychiatric disorder.While plaintiffs might still attempt to contend that a particular homosexually behaving couple might be able to offer satisfactory parenting functions for an adopted or foster child placed in their household, such a placed child would still be exposed to the higher risks of harm by the unique stressors inherent to homosexual households, relatively greater couple instability, and deprivation of the valuable benefits of a mother or father that are inherent to the structure of the household with homosexual adult membership

Therefore, as a group, households with a resident homosexually-behaving adult are substantially less capable of providing the best psychologically-stable and secure home environments

This post reeks of pseudo-intellectual horseshit plagiarized from Conservapedia. Do you mind citing this bit of C&Ped garbage, looneybin? You clearly copied it from somewhere, and I'm interested to know which electronic cesspools of fundamentalist dumbfuckery you frequent.

Why not list these "large nationally representative household studies," looneybin? There's nothing to lose. You claim that their findings support you, and fundamentalist dumbasses like you never distort or misrepresent scientific research.

"Do you mind citing this bit of C&Ped garbage, looneybin?"

Well, it turns out Hllooneytunes is a plagerist:

litigation-
essentials.lexisnexis.com

Well, it turns out Hllooneytunes is a plagerist:

Notice the author of that article? George Alan Reckers? He's the bible-thumping closetcase who got caught with a rentboy.

Turns out Danforth is illiterate, there is no such word as plagerist which he/she even went so far as to ignore the word failing spellcheck when it was typed, too funny. FLAG: Irrelevant

Well, it turns out Hllooneytunes is a plagerist:
litigation-
essentials.lexisnexis.com
#40 | Posted by Danforth

Ah yes, of course. George Rekers. The rent-a-boy guy. Apparently it's OK to be gay as long as you pay for it. He was also Florida's expert witness in support of the anti-gay adoption ban. The Judges were less than impressed.

Thanks for a good laugh.

More perpetuation of illiteracy and an added fallacious word, closetcase.
Too funny :-)

Turns out Danforth is illiterate, there is no such word as plagerist which he/she even went so far as to ignore the word failing spellcheck when it was typed, too funny. FLAG: Irrelevant
#42 | Posted by Hlloona

Oh my god, a typo!!!!!!!!

But anyway, I think we've closed this case.

Looneybin dredged up some pseudoscientific bullshit courtesy of the good Rev. Jorge Chingaputos, got called out for it, and scurried off with his tail between his legs to pray for guidance on how to cope with his latest miserable fucking failure at debate.

Hlloona,

Are you a rent-a-boy kind of guy? It sure seems that the more people protest the more they are.

It sure seems that the more people protest the more they are.

Methinks the man in ladies' panties doth protest too much.

"I Am Not Gay and Never Have Been
By professor george
I am immediately resigning my membership in NARTH to allow myself the time necessary to fight the false media reports that have been made against me. With the assistance of a defamation attorney, I will fight these false reports because I have not engaged in any homosexual behavior whatsoever. I am not gay and never have been. (May 11, 2010)"

Fact: He is considered innocent until proven guilty, so your unsubstantiated accusations don't rise to the level of nugatory.

I am not gay and never have been. (May 11, 2010)"
#49 | Posted by Hlloona

Sounds an awful lot like "I'm going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

I will fight these false reports because I have not engaged in any homosexual behavior whatsoever

Yep. That handjob was purely platonic.

Fact: He is considered innocent until proven guilty

He committed no crime. I don't see the purpose of this statement

so your unsubstantiated accusations don't rise to the level of nugatory.

They're hardly unsubstantiated. He was found at an airport with a male escort who was paid to give him naked rub-downs. That proves something, but... doubts do remain. Foremost among them, it is uncertain whether whether Rekers is gay or bisexual.

What we need to ask ourselves is whether it is right that the state be allowed to deprive a child of the chance to have both a person who fulfills the function of a mother and a person who fulfills the function of a father, and all that the collaboration of two people of different genders potentially brings to the development of a human being. The opportunity to have a mother and a father is a very distinct and separate issue from discriminating against people of same-sex orientation, although admittedly and by its nature, it inevitably does.

Its not about the parent's rights, but the children's. Kids have the right to learn about life from a mother (from whom they learn how females feel, act under different circumstances) and from a father (from whom they learn how differently males feel and act under those circumstances). Is the perspective that a right & a left eye give: two right (or left) eyes will not give an accurate focus. Children will not be able to have a clear vision of life if deprived of both sex parents.
Check out the effects of a real human life, of a girl raised by a gay dad and his several partners:
Dawn Stefanowicz
Her TIMELESS book, OUT FROM UNDER: The IMPACT of HOMOSEXUAL PARENTING
www.dawnstefanowicz.com

Percentage of kids raised in gay households who are abused: 0
Percentage of kids raised in straight households who are abused: 25
Source Dr. Dean Edell.
Number of functioning neurons in hllunatic's tiny, lying brain: 1.8

Researchers working on the longest-running study of American lesbian families asked children of lesbian mothers if they had ever been physically or sexually abused by a parent and the answer was never in all cases.
In contrast, 26 of American teens as a whole report physical abuse by a parent or caregiver, and 8.3 percent sexual abuse.
The study authors said: "The absence of child abuse in lesbian mother families is particularly noteworthy, because victimization of children is pervasive and its consequences can be devastating. To the extent that our findings are replicated by other researchers, these reports from adolescents with lesbian mothers have implications for healthcare professionals, policymakers, social service agencies, and child protection experts who seek family models in which violence does not occur."
Of course you have to keep in mind that the sample size was small. Researchers interviewed only 78 children, and participants volunteered to be in the study. Researchers asked the 17-year-old sons and daughters of lesbian mothers about their sexual abuse, sexual orientation, and sexual behavior.
The study was conducted by Nanette Gartrell, M.D., Henny Bos, Ph.D. (University of Amsterdam), and Naomi Goldberg, M.P.P. (Williams Institute). Principal investigator Nanette Gartrell, M.D., is a 2010 Williams Distinguished Scholar, an associate clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF, and affiliated with the University of Amsterdam.

Perhaps the study would be better titled, "Preconceived Conclusions Seeking Research Support" or "Activism Masquerading as Science: A Study Suitable for Scrutiny by Beginning Graduate Students."

The National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study (NLLFS) published by American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) offers the following conclusion: "Adolescents who have been reared in lesbian-mother families since birth demonstrate healthy psychological adjustment (p. 28)."

Authors Gartrell and Bos generalize their findings to the lesbian population at large, claiming their research offers "implications for... same-sex parenting" (p. 28). Making an enormous scientific leap, they conclude that their study provides scientific proof that there is "no justification for restricting access to reproductive technologies or child custody on the basis of the sexual orientation of the parents" (p. 34-35).

Implied, though not stated, is the notion that fathers are not necessary or important for the healthy development of children. This implication is a throwback to an article published in the American Psychologist in 1999 titled "Deconstructing the Essential Father." Like the authors of the American Psychologist article, Gartrell and Bos are on record as activists seeking public support for homosexual parenting.

The problems inherent in any self-report study. The lesbian mothers' own reports that their children were well-adjusted were accepted by the study's authors uncritically. The authors should have clarified the limitation and usefulness of such qualitative, self-reported data in light of the fact that the lesbian parents knew that the study would be used to further their political cause; in contrast, the control group had no idea how their reports would be used. In addition, most mothers, lesbian or not, would likely report their children's adjustment in a favorable light. Outside observers such as the child's teachers or counselors, if consulted, could have offered a different perspective.

"A 5-year-old Los Angeles boy is fighting for his life after police say he was severely tortured with burns and food deprivation by his lesbian mother and her live-in girlfriend.

Officials say the child has countless cigarette burns all over his body, including his genitals, and can't open his hands because he was forced to put them flat on a hot stove."
www.newsnet14.com

Percentage of kids raised in gay households who are abused: 0
#54 | Posted by Zatoichi

Quit speaking for Corky and Sarvis. They're big boys.

A 5-year-old Los Angeles boy is fighting for his life after police say he was severely tortured with burns and food deprivation by his lesbian mother and her live-in girlfriend

A tragedy. Now, if I employ your logic, all Christians are unfit parents because these dickheads sat around and watched their 15 month old daughter die, thinking that prayer was a cure for pneumonia.

"Turns out Danforth is illiterate, there is no such word as plagerist"

Spelling aside, it doesn't change the fact you posted someone else's words as your own.

But you're right: you're not a "plagerist", you're a plagiarist.

Feel better, thief?

A good news story?

* clicks *

Cool beanz.

Anyone can say they are pro life but people who adopt really walk the walk.

Good on the Florida legal folks who decided not to appeal this gay adoption case.

Good on Mr Gill fer going the extra step to do what's right.

Bout bloody time Flag.

Be Well.

"If one agrees with the assertion that being promiscuous is not healthy, from either an emotional or physical standpoint, then homosexuality as typically practiced must be termed extremely unhealthy. Homosexualities, an official publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten percent of male homosexuals could be termed as "relatively monogamous" or "relatively less promiscuous." Additional findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners. Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more than half of their sexual partners were strangers.[39]
Just a few years after the publication of this report, Dr. William Foege, the director of the Centers for Disease Control, stated: "The average AIDS victim has had 60 different sexual partners in the past twelve months."[40] In contrast with this, "the average heterosexual male has -- throughout his life -- from five to nine sex partners."[41]
What about lesbian relationships? Are homosexual women less promiscuous than homosexual men? While less research has been done on lesbians, the data shows that they are much more monogamous than homosexual men. However, their relationships are still not very secure. Yvonne Zipter, a lesbian writing in Chicago's gay journal Windy City Times, in an article entitled "The Disposable Lesbian Relationship," notes that the "lasting lesbian relationship" is a "mythic entity."[42] "
39 Alan P. Bell and Martin S. Weinberg, Homosexualities (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1978), 308.
40 Walter Isaacson, "Hunting for the Hidden Killers ," Time, 4 July 1983, 51.
41 Kronemeyer, 32.
42 Yvonne Zipter, "The Disposable Lesbian Relationship," Windy City Times (Chicago), 25 December 1986, 18.

"Officials say the child has countless cigarette burns all over his body, including his genitals, and can't open his hands because he was forced to put them flat on a hot stove."

I could find plenty of heterosexual child abusers, anecdotes like this when used in an argument about gay adoptions is irrelevant.....and disgusting BTW.

HLOONA how about adding a link to where you got that little gem, you didn't do all that research yourself so why not fill us in on who did???

There was NO written prohibition for using the articles information, therefore it was NOT unauthorized, illiterate accuser, neither was it intended to be taken as my personal thoughts on the subject. Go Fish....

There was NO written prohibition for using the articles information

Prove it. Link to this mystery article. It obviously wasn't yours, fundo. You're too goddamn stupid to evaluate, let alone write, that vast majority of what you've posted. That's not saying much about the author, however. Whoever wrote that crap can't stay on topic and draws erroneous conclusions from anecdotes and old research.

neither was it intended to be taken as my personal thoughts on the subject

In other words, you just regurgitated something discovered on a google search. Staying true to the oblivious fuckwit that you are, you presented it as fact on the DR.

Let me put it to you this way, Hlooneybin. Your pathetic collection of superstitions is rapidly being consigned to the trash heap of history. Modern society simply has no need for hatred of shrimp and queers.

I do, however, get a bit of amusement out of your feeble attempts to give legitimacy to the self-inflicted lobotomy that is your religion. Futile as your bluster and babble may be, it does provide a great opportunity to watch a fundie squirm.

1973 vote Dr. Socarides led the APA's task force studying homosexuality, which issued a report unanimously declaring homosexuality to be a disorder of psychosexual development. This report, considered to be too politically inflammatory, was shelved, only later being published as a "study group" report in 1974.

"How Jesus Heals us Through His Church
- Andrew Comiskey
We are a people of desire--desires that can drive us toward noble and true expressions of our humanity, and desires
that can reduce us to the animal kingdom--the rat in the wheel.
The only way that transformation can occur is through Christ and His community. As we come broken into the church,
His faithful love can transform our desires. This is with the help of the church, not in spite of her. Jesus' body on earth
has the authority to convert the rat into a saint. I will use my own story of healing from homosexuality to demonstrate
how Jesus, through His community, transforms our desires.
25 years ago, I began this process of transformation. My starting point was as a practicing homosexual. Today I can
join with the Psalmist in proclaiming: "You, Father, have satisfied my desires with good things, so that my youth is
renewed like the eagle's. The Lord works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed."(Ps 103:5,6)
My oppression had to do with misplaced desire. God's justice involved the realignment of my desire through the
power of His transforming love. That love elevated my sight as to who He was, and the higher purposes He intended
for my humanity."

Dr. Socarides led the APA's task force studying homosexuality, which issued a report unanimously declaring homosexuality to be a disorder of psychosexual development

Dr. Socarides was a devotee of Freudian quackery who was later disgraced for misrepresenting the APA's position on homosexuality. The science of psychology has made light-years worth of progress since the 1960's and 70's.

The only people who remain devoted to anachronistic concepts are quacks, imbeciles, and shit-for-brains fundamentalists who misrepresent science to support their idiotic worlview. HLooneybin might as well quote a phrenologist.

Frank Lombard Was Looking For Some "Perv Fam Fun".

More and more we are seeing black infants being adopted by homosexuals because many local social service agencies consider the black adoption by a white homosexual men a great way to show how open they are to all lifestyles. These children are adopted as infants, often at great expense, while never knowing anything different than the idea it is ok to be gay. This is why the homosexual activists raised such a stink for the right to adopt. It is just one more shameful way our society has allowed the homosexual culture to go mainstream as we just sit back allowing them to adopt infants and raise them as homosexuals so they can propagate their sick lifestyles.

It seems you can pick up almost any gay travel guide, and see a good portion of them telling you where you can find underage boys in the destination of your choice. Look at normal travel guides and you will never see such despicable information where perverts can find underage boys. Amazingly the article I read says that nearly 100% of gay travel guides have this sort of information, while 0% of non gay travel guides have such information.

abcnews.go.com

Frank Lombard Was Looking For Some "Perv Fam Fun".

Let's employ some of HLooneybin's "logic" here. Frank Lombard was an Episcopal. Therefore, all Episcopal should be barred from adopting. In case you didn't know, fuckwit, there is as much of a relationship between homosexuality and pedophilia as there is Episcopalianism and pedophilia.

These children are adopted as infants, often at great expense, while never knowing anything different than the idea it is ok to be gay.

It takes a rare sort of bible-thumping prick to find fault with a household where hate is not taught as a virtue.

It seems you can pick up almost any gay travel guide, and see a good portion of them telling you where you can find underage boys in the destination of your choice.

It sounds like you do this often, Hlooneybin...

By the way, none of what you wrote was even remotely related to the article you linked to.

Fucking idiot.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.

Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D.
Male Homosexuals Commit A Disproportionate Number of Child Sex Abuse Cases
"Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation."

I wonder why it is that you don't provide links, looneybin? Is it because you are copy/pasting the "work" of quacks and charlatans?

If you're going to post statistics, provide links to their sources, or get used to being dismissed as a disingenuous stooge.

Liberty Counsel chief counsel and spokesman Steve Crampton,"The [Third] District Court of Appeals in Florida ruled that the ban on gay adoption is unconstitutional, and after several weeks the Department of Children and Families has decided not to appeal the ruling any further," explains Crampton. Liberty Counsel filed a brief and believes the current ban is not only constitutional but beneficial for children.

Now the decision on an appeal goes to the Florida attorney general -- and according to the Liberty Counsel attorney, McCollum's response is not certain.

"You know, it's a political hot potato," Crampton remarks. "[Attorney General] Bill McCollum is a wise politician. We hope that his conservative credentials will come through and prevail. Unfortunately, the homosexual lobby is very powerful and very outspoken."

Lesbian adoptionCrampton believes the decision is a very close call for McCollum, but he notes that the majority of Floridians oppose homosexual adoption. The attorney emphasizes, however, that any decision must be made on the basis of the welfare of adopted children -- and he argues that the best scenario is with a married man and woman.

More plagiarized garbage from the fundie too dumb to catch the short bus, I see.

I would expect nothing else.

CFN Interview with Randy Engel on "Homosexuality and the New World Order"
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Homosexuals claim that "heterosexuals" molest most children but statistics show that homosexuals molest at far higher rates than do heterosexuals.

Rev. Paul Shanley, a retired Catholic priest was arrested on May 4, 2002 in San Diego on three counts of child rape. Shanley had a history of molesting boys that went back to 1967. He was at the founding meeting of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) and while in San Diego operated a bed & breakfast for homosexuals in Palm Springs. Shanley has openly called for "man-boy" love.

David Carlton Nurmi, was arrested in Florida on April 26, 2002, for possession of child pornography and for molesting a 15-year-old boy.

Geoffrey Cornish, a well-respected Solana Beach, California therapist was sentenced to 23 years in prison in September, 2001 for sexually molesting boys who came to him for therapy. Cornish, who is HIV-positive, was also a coach for the Torrey Pines High School surf team. Cornish told police he had been molested himself by a Boy Scout leader for three years when he was living in England.

James Edward Sanders, a homosexual child molester, was arrested in New Mexico in December, 2001 for sexually abusing a 7-year-old boy. Police also discovered child pornography in Sanders' home.

Christopher Reardon, a homosexual, former youth minister, and Boy Scout leader was sentenced to 40-50 years in prison in the Summer of 2001 for raping, molesting, and disseminating pornography to 29 boys under his care.

Dr. Ronald Bayer, a pro-homosexual psychiatrist has described what actually occurred in his book, Homosexuality and American Psychiatry: The Politics of Diagnosis. (1981)

In Chapter 4, "Diagnostic Politics: Homosexuality and the American Psychiatric Association," Dr. Bayer says that the first attack by homosexual activists against the APA began in 1970 when this organization held its convention in San Francisco. Homosexual activists decided to disrupt the conference by interrupting speakers and shouting down and ridiculing psychiatrists who viewed homosexuality as a mental disorder. In 1971, homosexual activist Frank Kameny worked with the Gay Liberation Front collective to demonstrate against the APA's convention. At the 1971 conference, Kameny grabbed the microphone and yelled, "Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a declaration of war against you."

Homosexuals forged APA credentials and gained access to exhibit areas in the conference. They threatened anyone who claimed that homosexuals needed to be cured.

Kameny had found an ally inside of the APA named Kent Robinson who helped the homosexual activist present his demand that homosexuality be removed from the DSM. At the 1972 convention, homosexual activists were permitted to set up a display booth, entitled "Gay, Proud and Healthy."

Kameny was then permitted to be part of a panel of psychiatrists who were to discuss homosexuality. The effort to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM was the result of power politics, threats, and intimidation, not scientific discoveries.

"The Gay Report", per homosexual researchers Karla Jay and Allen Young, the authors had reported data showing that 73 percent of homosexuals surveyed at one time or another had sex with boys aged 16 to 19 years of age or even younger.

73 percent of homosexuals surveyed at one time or another had sex with boys aged 16 to 19 years of age or even younger.

Yeah, probably when they were 16 to 19 too.
I think the ratio of straight to gay predator activities is probably 1:1

"approximately one-third of [child sex offenders] had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls." The authors then make a prescient observation: "Interestingly, this ratio differs substantially from the ratio of gynephiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature females) to androphiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature males), which is at least 20 to 1." 17

In other words, although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses.

Similarly, the Archives of Sexual Behavior also noted that homosexual pedophiles are significantly overrepresented in child sex offence cases:"

How come you are only counting men.Women molest too.I thought we were talking about everybody.

Do those who engage in homosexuality disproportionately sexually abuse foster or adoptive children as reported by child protective services? Illinois child services reported sexual abuse for 1997 through 2002. 270 parents committed "substantiated" sexual offenses against foster or subsidized adoptive children: 67 (69%) of 97 mother and 148 (86%) of 173 father perpetrators sexually abused girls; 30 (31%) mother and 25 (14%) of father perpetrators sexually abused boys (i.e., 92 [34%] of the perpetrators homosexually abused their charges). 15 of these parents both physically and sexually abused charges: daughters by 8 mothers and 4 fathers, sons by 3 mothers (i.e., same-sex perpetrators were involved in 53%). Thus, homosexual practitioners were proportionately more apt to sexually abuse foster or adoptive children.

Nearly all of the existing studies of homosexual parenting have major deficiencies in sampling: They use a small sample size; they fail to obtain a truly representative sample due to sources of sampling bias; they do not use a random sample; or they use a sample with characteristics that are inappropriate for the crucial development research question involved in the study.

5 for 2 Moder8's brother doesn't respect him again this year.

Any takers?

And I don't know why any Floridian would ban happy people from adopting. Now queers, on the other hand.......

President Barack Obama and Congressional Democrats are quietly rushing through legislation (H.R. 3017 & S. 1584) that would actually bring cross-dressing teachers into your child's classroom.

Under the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), your children will be trapped in classes taught by drag queens and transgender activists. Students will be indoctrinated that "alternative lifestyles" are no different than traditional lifestyles. Young children will be forced to learn about bizarre sexual fetishes – and you will have no say in the matter.

For More Information: www.endahurtskids.com

Employment Non-Discrimination Act - ENDA
The Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), is a proposed federal law that would prohibit sexual orientation discrimination in the workplace. Sexual orientation discrimination currently is not explicitly prohibited under federal law. But just because it is not currently a protected class under federal law that doesn't mean employers don't need to be concerned about sexual orientation or gender-identity discrimination.

Homosexuality and the New World Order

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