What a sore loser. He lost because he was weak on the issues, wasn't really even a Democrat, wasn't a long term resident of Florida and didn't have the best interests of Floridians in mind. Poor rich boy couldn't buy a Senate seat and now is throwing a temper tantrum and further embarrassing himself. Jeff move to another state and switch to another party.

Should I send some diapers and a pacifier or two?

I don't know Danni. He claims that they newspapers had actual knowledge of facts that disproved the claims they made about him. Sounds malicious to me. What if he's right?

I'm not saying he would have won otherwise, but that doesn't mean he wasn't defamed. He does have a very high burden to meet though.

"What if he's right?"

People didn't vote for him because they resented the idea that he thought he could buy a Senate seat. He wasn't even popular with the people in his own campaign. He was a Republican from California and everyone knew it.

Just because Danni thinks he's a Republican doesn't mean a newspaper can write false statements about them. I'm sure if it was Fox News saying something untrue, liberals would be angry.

It remains to be seen if anything they said wasn't true, especially witht the St. Petersburg Times I'd be very surprised, that is a very good newspaper and the Miami Herald is also very professional.
Thing is though, none of these reports were really all that important in the overall reasons why Florida Democrats rejected him. I don't "think" he was a Republican, he ran for Congress in California as a Republican.

"He was a Republican from California and everyone knew it."

Funny, his political donation of $30k to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee last year may make this "republican" tag a bit skewed.

GREENE, JEFF
CORAL GABLES, FL 33145
SELF-EMPLOYED/INVESTOR

DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE (D)

$30,400
primary 08/12/09

People didn't vote for him because they resented the idea that he thought he could buy a Senate seat. He wasn't even popular with the people in his own campaign. He was a Republican from California and everyone knew it.

#4 | Posted by danni

Danni, you miss the point again. The issue is not whether he is a rethuglican or dumbocrat; the issue is whether a newspaper (or media) through omission or commission were not honest in their reporting or manipulated the news or were involved in other nefarious practices. If that be the case, shut them down. That attitude along with many others is what is causing a declining nation. If you and others don't get it, then we deserve what we get.

"Jeff Greene only moved from California to Florida in the last two years. In fact, he would not legally be allowed to run for any other statewide office because he has not lived here long enough to meet the residency requirement."
Kendrick Meek on Friday, May 21st, 2010 in a campaign website

Go ahead, Greene! Waste MORE of your money.

People didn't vote for him because they resented the idea that he thought he could buy a Senate seat. He wasn't even popular with the people in his own campaign. He was a Republican from California and everyone knew it.

That is not a response to my post. The fact that he lost the election on ideas does not mean that the newspaper did not defame him. Try to separate the two if your brain can handle that.

"Kendrick Meek on Friday, May 21st, 2010 in a campaign website"

I guess Kendrick was upset Greene only contributed $500 to his Senate campaign last year. lol

If anyone shoud be able to sue a newspaper for influencing an election, it should have been Obama's primary and open US Senate election opponents.

"The issue is not whether he is a rethuglican or dumbocrat; the issue is whether a newspaper (or media) through omission or commission were not honest in their reporting or manipulated the news or were involved in other nefarious practices."

Oh gee, but let's pretend Fox News doesn't do that every single day.

"Jeff Greene ran as a Republican -- 28 years ago"

I can handle it fine but I can also express my opinion that this is just a sore loser. Did we suddenly lose that right?

He can be a sore loser too. Doesn't mean he wasn't defamed by a newspaper. Someday you'll understand. Maybe.

"He can be a sore loser too. Doesn't mean he wasn't defamed by a newspaper. Someday you'll understand. Maybe."

If it strokes your ego to pretend I don't understand a simple concept then go for it. Pathetic.

Danni,
Does the fact that you continuously respond to posts by invoking Fox news, George Bush, Reagan, etc even register with you?
Do the constant "Dem=Good", "Repub=Bad" posts register at all? Are you so lacking in self-awareness that you don't see that what people are giving you a light-hearted roughride over is actually spot on?

You're almost a punch line, like a jackass or a BL2. Everyone already knows what you're going to say.

Seriously, go look at your archived posts and give them a read. I don't believe you're a genius, but I'm pretty sure even you must be aware of the fact you can't seem to answer a question directly without somehow trying to invoke Fox, Bush, Reagan, or republicans.

"Danni,
Does the fact that you continuously respond to posts by invoking Fox news, George Bush, Reagan, etc even register with you?"

The reasons for most of our problems don't change day to day just because you are tired of hearing it and yes, I will continue to remind you and hopefully one day you'll actually hear what I'm saying.

"What if he's right?"

People didn't vote for him because they resented the idea that he thought he could buy a Senate seat. He wasn't even popular with the people in his own campaign. He was a Republican from California and everyone knew it.

#4 | Posted by danni

But that's what courts are for. If it's frivalous, then the court will throw it out (one would think).

That's what I said in #14 Eddie.

The reasons for most of our problems don't change day to day just because you are tired of hearing it and yes, I will continue to remind you and hopefully one day you'll actually hear what I'm saying.

#18 | Posted by danni

"Fox news, George Bush, Reagan"

You're right about Bush, but we figured it out for ourselves. It's called the Tea Party...

Fox News? Bullshit!

If I watch cable News, I will watch CNN, MSNBC, and FoxNews all in the same sitting for perhaps 30 minutes to an hour a day (if I get to it).

Please have more respect for yourself and say that MSNBC is as bad as or worse than Fox.

Have you watched Ed Shultz? Holy Shit! He's a liar and is a really bad host! It's embarrassing.

That's what I said in #14 Eddie.

#20 | Posted by danni

Yes you did. Sorry, I jumped through the thread. My bad.

The reasons for most of our problems don't change day to day just because you are tired of hearing it and yes, I will continue to remind you and hopefully one day you'll actually hear what I'm saying.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2010-09-03 11:28 AM

So if everyone "hears" your reminder, all of the sudden "our problems" will all go away? Or will all future problems will magically disappear? Would that also apply to your political leanings as well? If so, how has having control of all three Houses the last 17 months worked out?

"So if everyone "hears" your reminder, all of the sudden "our problems" will all go away?"

At least when people start considering that the crap they've been fed by Republicans for thirty years might be the cause of their economic troubles we can finally have a discussion about real solutions but as long as defenging the Reagan/Bush tax cuts is the mantra of so many we will be stuck just creating debt for our kids.

"If so, how has having control of all three Houses the last 17 months worked out?"

Nice of you to give us seventeen months to fix what took thirty years to destroy. NOt to mention the evaporation of 7 trillion dollars worth of home equity which was the real basis for the economy during the entire Bush presidency. What we see today we would have seen then had it not been for the housing bubble.

Nice of you to give us seventeen months to fix what took thirty years to destroy. NOt to mention the evaporation of 7 trillion dollars worth of home equity which was the real basis for the economy during the entire Bush presidency. What we see today we would have seen then had it not been for the housing bubble.

#25 | Posted by danni

This is a weak response.

-- 30 years to destroy what?

-- Now you are blaming Bush for a mistake he made. His mistake was trying to please the left and they weren't complaining.

'He was a Republican from California and everyone knew it.'

A California Republican is about the same as a Montana Democrat, only if it came to it I'd probably vote for the MT Dem.

Besides, Danni,

This is not about Bush! This is about Obama/Reid/Pelosi pushing through their agenda without addressing the problems with the economy.

In fact, if Obama did nothing the economy would have fixed itself!

JOE - #3
Agreed.
Yes, the bar is higher for a public person. If he pushes this thing, it'll be interesting to see what (if anything) the reporters knew and when they knew it.

"In fact, if Obama did nothing the economy would have fixed itself!"

And you know that how???
It's easy to make claims based on absolutely nothing, and they prove absolutely nothing.

At least when people start considering that the crap they've been fed by Republicans for thirty years might be the cause of their economic troubles we can finally have a discussion about real solutions but as long as defenging the Reagan/Bush tax cuts is the mantra of so many we will be stuck just creating debt for our kids.

#24 | Posted by danni

Danni, you can't blame this on Republicans. A Democrat started it all.

Read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" and then come back and complain about Republicans.

You can't blame this on Republicans.

There were 1000s of Democrats elected into office in the last 30 years and I never once heard them trying to change it!

In fact, Democrats, Obama/Reid/Pelosi have accelerated that spending unnecessarily.

Do you not know this?

"In fact, if Obama did nothing the economy would have fixed itself!"

And you know that how???
It's easy to make claims based on absolutely nothing, and they prove absolutely nothing.

#30 | Posted by danni

Companies hording cash--not hiring, waiting for the environment to change in Washington.

You need to face the fact that Obama's agenda is not what Americans want.

30 years to destroy what, Danni?

"You need to face the fact that Obama's agenda is not what Americans want."

You seem to think that the interests of huge corporations now hoarding cash are synonymous with the interests of most Americans. Generally the exact opposite is true.

"30 years to destroy what, Danni?"

How about our manufacturing base, our position as largest creditor nation in the world and instead becoming the largest debtor nation in the world, organized labor, the middle class...to name a few things.

You need to face the fact that Obama's agenda is not what Americans want.

~Special Eddie

Americans don't want something done about out of control health care costs that are leading to mass bankruptcies?

Americans don't want an end to the two forever wars BushCo started?

Americans don't want to see financial regulation reform after the housing bubble's deliberate collapse lead to the nations biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression?

Americans don't want to see saner drug laws?

Americans don't want to see an end to discrimination based on sexual preference?

Only braindead, amoral asswipes don't want to see any of those things.

Eddie needs to face the fact that America not only wants Obama's agenda but needs it as well.

Be Well.

On Topic?

Poor rich boy couldn't buy a Senate seat and now is throwing a temper tantrum and further embarrassing himself.

~Danni.

THIS.

Done in one.

Thread over. Danni wins.

Be Well.

30 years to accomplish the largest transfer of wealth from poor to rich in the history of the world.

GOPers are SO proud of their work, too.

"You need to face the fact that Obama's agenda is not what Americans want."

You are wrong Crazy Eddie.

You need to educate yourself on what "Obama's agenda" really is and quit letting Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh force feed you their Rethug bullshit.

I suggest you read this article from Time Magazine. It is inspiring and enlightening regarding "Obama's agenda".

Poor rich boy couldn't buy a Senate seat and now is throwing a temper tantrum and further embarrassing himself.

~Danni.

THIS.

Done in one.

"Thread over. Danni wins."

Seems to me the winner was the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee who tricked Greene out of $30k.

If God designed the Obama agenda and promised us with His supernatural, all knowing intelligence that if we followed it our nation would grow and prosper the same people who oppose Obama now would oppose Obama then.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Always trust your "Truth-0-Meter" without question....always!

KBM is denying Jeff Greene ran for Congress as a Republican in California.

KBM is denying Jeff Greene ran for Congress as a Republican in California.

#43 | Posted by danni at 2010-09-03 12:45 PM

As much as you denying his campaign contributions to the DSCC last year? No doubt given a promise he could run as a dem for the Florida seat?

#42 | Posted by KBM

Beats making a fool of yourself with a decades-old FBI COINTELPRO fake.

I guess "Greene" is new breed of whacked out dems running for office.

"As much as you denying his campaign contributions to the DSCC last year?"

When did I ever deny anything like that? ARe you on heavy medication?

SPUD-
Are you implying that because of his wealth he shouldn't be afforded the same rights as another American? I would hope/think you are not arguing that point.

Sure, this guy's actions come across as sour grapes. I get that. Do you (and DANNI) also get that it's conceivable this guy not only has the right to bring forth a suit, but also may have a legit case? Do you think it's possible the media could actually have broken the law? Shouldn't the offended person have the right to pursue it in court?

Let's see how this plays out before we simply dismiss this as a whiney rich guy who couldn't get his way.

"No doubt given a promise he could run as a dem for the Florida seat?"

How could they promise him that there would be no other candidates in the primary???

"As much as you denying his campaign contributions to the DSCC last year?"

When did I ever deny anything like that? ARe you on heavy medication?

#47 | Posted by danni at 2010-09-03 12:59 PM

Every time you bring up his republican connections knowing he is a fucking democrat. Either you are being a hypocrite or obtuse, which is it?

"No doubt given a promise he could run as a dem for the Florida seat?"

How could they promise him that there would be no other candidates in the primary???

#49 | Posted by danni at 2010-09-03 01:01 PM

Another gem danni. God only knows how your brain comprehended a promise to run is a promise no other candidates would be in the primary.

"Every time you bring up his republican connections knowing he is a fucking democrat. Either you are being a hypocrite or obtuse, which is it?"

I just don't consider him to be a real Democrat or a real Repulican, I'd classify him as a carpet bagger. My dislike for him is bipartisan.

"No doubt given a promise he could run as a dem for the Florida seat?"

Any Democrat can run, you don't need permission.

According to the suit, the second story suggested that the boxer Mike Tyson, who was best man at Greene's wedding in 2007, used drugs while on the real estate mogul's yacht two years earlier. Both papers ran corrections in which Tyson clarified that his use of drugs did not occur aboard Summerwind.

``Democracy won't work if we let lawsuits full of baseless charges from a political candidate inhibit us from providing voters with the independent information that they need and rely on,'' Brown, the Times editor, said.

Not sure that I agree with the editor as we bitch about this type of bull shit reporting by FoxNews all the time. Float out a story that has nothing to do with the issues, realize it is untrue and retract it. Well, by that point the damage has already been done, (34% of Conservatives think Obama is a Muslim)

So you can see how the false reporting can be so damaging even with a retraction.

But a law suit? If you are going to sue this paper and win for what they did then Fox News is in a whole lotta trouble as they do this shit almost everyday.

"No doubt given a promise he could run as a dem for the Florida seat?
#44 | Posted by crispee_oc"

What the fuck are you talking about coco? You don't need the DSCC's permission to run, dummy.

"No doubt given a promise he could run as a dem for the Florida seat?
#44 | Posted by crispee_oc"

What the fuck are you talking about coco? You don't need the DSCC's permission to run, dummy.

#55 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2010-09-03 01:28 PM

If you are stupid enough to troll, and better yet, respond to a danni post, at least look at the original retort instead of being a lazy fuck and posting only one sentence. Danni also tried some stupid line "how could the DSCC promise no candidates would run" based on the line you pasted.

Fine assholes... How about given an endorsement by the DSCC? Would that shut you desperate libs up. Unless of course you are all in agreement he just happened to move to Florida and give $30k to the DSCC without any fucking guarantees or promises.

"Unless of course you are all in agreement he just happened to move to Florida and give $30k to the DSCC without any fucking guarantees or promises."

Or worse Crispee, I really don't care if he gave money to the DSCC. I am a Florida Democrat and I just didn't want him to be my Senate candidate, is that ok with you? He could have given them a million and I wouldn't feel any differently.

"Unless of course you are all in agreement he just happened to move to Florida and give $30k to the DSCC without any fucking guarantees or promises.
#56 | Posted by crispee_oc"

You're a fucking dumbass, coco.

You're a fucking dumbass, coco.

#58 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2010-09-03 02:10 PM

Coco... You gonna give yourself another pat on the back for coming up with such a catchy name? You seem more desperate for attention today than normal CoreBoy. Care to share? Or did that cork buried in your ass shift a little?

Don't whine, CoCo. Wipe those tears.

I don't know about the merits of the case however I like the concept i.e. candidates suing news outlets, PACs, other candidates, etc. when they knowingly publish false information.

Maybe if enough of these suits are successful, we'll start to hear the truth in political campaigns.

Don't whine, CoCo. Wipe those tears.

#60 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2010-09-03 02:26 PM |

Hardly whining. Just pointing out how you kept claiming you made up some nickname and desperately wanted everyone to acknowkledge your brilliant feat. Reminded me of my dog wanting her butt scratched for bringing me the ball.

"Maybe if enough of these suits are successful, we'll start to hear the truth in political campaigns."

Or it could have the effect of making news reporting entities afraid to report anything about candidates that isn't complimentary.

"Read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" and then come back and complain about Republicans"

G. Edward Griffin is a right wing crackpot...

So if everyone "hears" your reminder, all of the sudden "our problems" will all go away?

We have been hearing about Clinton's blowjob for going on 10 years now.

Or it could have the effect of making news reporting entities afraid to report anything about candidates that isn't complimentary.

#63 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2010-09-03 02:51 PM | REPLY | FLAG

We already have politicals restricting access to "less than favorable" news outlets.

You want the "librul" media to become press release issuing lapdogs? That is what we got from 2001-2008. Let's try to pretend that did not end badly.

"desperately wanted everyone to acknowkledge your brilliant feat.
#62 | Posted by crispee_oc"

I'm sure you have posts demonstrating this desperation, right CoCo? (Also, I've called you CoCo for years. Even though you are a dimwit, I'm surprised it took you this long to notice.)

Or it could have the effect of making news reporting entities afraid to report anything about candidates that isn't complimentary.

That's a good point. However, I believe that credible news organizations that have the "goods" will stick by any story they publish.

"Failed Candidate Sues"

yeah, some real pussies have tried this before.

"I'm sure you have posts demonstrating this desperation, right CoCo?"

Never happened CoreBoy. Either because I haven't written anything worthy of attention or I am not as desperate as you.

What never happened, dummy?

"What never happened, dummy?"

Not sure which is more pathetic. The fact you ask me what never happened, or the fact you forgot what you posted a few minutes earlier.

"I'm sure you have posts demonstrating this desperation, right CoCo?"

Never happened... Does that help DF?

So what you accuse me of doing in one post you then proclaim never happened in another post? OK, retard - here's your sign.

So what you accuse me of doing in one post you then proclaim never happened in another post? OK, retard - here's your sign.

#73 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2010-09-03 06:32 PM |

Did you start happy hour early because it is a holiday weekend? I accused you of something in a post and you stupidly said I have as well. Fuck it has been posted twice, will the third time get through?

"desperately wanted everyone to acknowkledge your brilliant feat.
#62 | Posted by crispee_oc"

I'm sure you have posts demonstrating this desperation, right CoCo?
#67 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2010-09-03 03:10 PM |

Never happened CoreBoy. Either because I haven't written anything worthy of attention or I am not as desperate as you.
#70 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2010-09-03 04:04 PM

#74...

Now that "I" read it the third time I got your take. Another volume in my gaffe encyclopedia. Now I understand what you meant when you posted "never happened" in the form of a question... You were looking for an example as opposed to saying I have done it as well.

OK "Special Eddie" is the example.

I guess "Greene" is new breed of whacked out dems running for office.

The difference being he didn't get through the primary.

I guess "Greene" is new breed of whacked out dems running for office.

The difference being he didn't get through the primary.

#76 | Posted by YAV at 2010-09-03 07:45 PM

Even better, the more whacked of both Greenes did.

Typical whiney Democrat. It's always someone elses fault for their failures

"But a law suit? If you are going to sue this paper and win for what they did then Fox News is in a whole lotta trouble as they do this shit almost everyday."

No worries for Fox. One of their local news stations already won the legal argument that they have the right to lie.

"An appeal was filed, and a ruling in February 2003 came down in favor of WTVT, who successfully argued that the FCC policy against falsification was not a "law, rule, or regulation", and so the whistle-blower law did not qualify as the required "law, rule, or regulation" under section 448.102 of the Florida Statutes"

"#74...

Now that "I" read it the third time I got your take. Another volume in my gaffe encyclopedia. Now I understand what you meant when you posted "never happened" in the form of a question... You were looking for an example as opposed to saying I have done it as well.

OK "Special Eddie" is the example.

#75 | Posted by crispee_oc"

Kudos to you. You are one of the few around here with a healthy enough ego to acknowledge a misunderstanding.