Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Fiercely opposed to the war from the start, President Barack Obama formally ended the U.S. combat role in Iraq after seven long years of bloodshed, declaring firmly Tuesday night: "We have met our responsibility," Obama said. "Now it is time to turn the page." Claiming no victory, he said the nation's most urgent priority now must be fixing its own sickly economy.

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... in a book that never should have been written.

Turning the page? I have 3 buddies being shipped out to Iraq in the near future. More American blood will be shed on Iraqi soil, this is all posturing for votes in November.

Obama's Surge Was A Success! Read It And Weep, Reich-Wingers. LOL

Be Well.

The responsibility to follow up on previously made agreements before he took office...not of his origination..
we should have been working much harder on 'fixing the sickly economy'..
So, where are any real news announcements?????
Solutions?????
Don't hold your breath with this one...!!!!

"On a long and lonesome highway East of Omaha . . ."

Welcome back, Goatman.

LOL..Nippleclip is a riot...

i'd like to know how 50,000 troops turns the page, but whatever....blah blah talk talk, thanks a lot buddy

Hi Goatman.

Welcome back

The responsibility to follow up on previously made agreements before he took office...not of his origination..

If he had signed them, he would have been a defeatocrat with a timetable which meant the terrorists won, but since Saint George signed them, not so much.

Hopefully Iraq will remind Americans, as Vietnam used to, that Republicans can't win wars.

this is all posturing for votes in November

Agreed. It's not over until ALL operations have ceased and they are all back home. I'll only be happy when we've finally left Afghanistan...

And Germany, Japan, Philippines, South Korea, Columbia, Kenya, Egypt, Diego Garcia, Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand, Greece, Italy, UK, Spain, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Portugal, Netherlands, Greenland, Poland, Turkey, Kyrgyzstan, Bulgaria, Kosovo, Israel, Djibouti, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, UAE, Antigua, Saint Helena, Cuba, and Netherland Antilles.

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks Lisa.

Hopefully Iraq will remind Americans, as Vietnam used to, that Republicans can't win wars.

Um, I believe Obama is a democrat.

Hey it's goatman?! I thought you retired from the retort. It must have been a Brett Favre sort of retirement.

Welcome back.

Hopefully Iraq will remind Americans, as Vietnam used to, that Republicans can't win wars.

LBJ was a republican?

Hi, A1. Thanks!

Et tu Zombie.

Was banned, but also a lot of lifestyle changes that demanded my time as well. Long story to tell sometime later.

"If he had signed them, he would have been a defeatocrat with a timetable"

That reminds me...where is Paneocon/Lokisfur/Derfla/ Rastaninja/Bowa to claim Bush was a Defeatican?

TRUTH HURTS

The reasons why Reagan's war on terror has been dispatched to the repository of unwelcome facts are understandable and informative -- about ourselves. Instantly, Reagan's war on terror became a savage terrorist war, leaving hundreds of thousands of tortured and mutilated corpses in the wreckage of Central America, tens of thousands more in the Middle East, and an estimated 1.5 million killed by South African terror that was strongly supported by the Reagan administration in violation of congressional sanctions. All of these murderous exercises of course had pretexts. The resort to violence always does. In the Middle East, Reagan's decisive support for Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon, which killed some 15-20,000 people and destroyed much of southern Lebanon and Beirut, was based on the pretense that it was in selfdefense against PLO rocketing of the Galilee, a brazen fabrication: Israel recognized at once that the threat was PLO diplomacy, which might have undermined Israel's illegal takeover of the occupied territories. In Africa, support for the marauding of the apartheid state was officially justified within the framework of the war on terror: it was necessary to protect white South Africa from one of the world's "more notorious terrorist groups," Nelson Mandela's African National Congress, so Washington determined in 1988. The pretexts in the other cases were no more impressive.

For the most part, the victims of Reaganite terror were defenseless civilians, but in one case the victim was a state, Nicaragua, which could respond through legal channels. Nicaragua brought its charges to the World Court, which condemned the US for "unlawful use of force" -- in lay terms, international terrorism -- in its attack on Nicaragua from its Honduran bases, and ordered the US to terminate the assault and pay substantial reparations. The aftermath is instructive.

Congress responded to the Court judgment by increasing aid to the US-run mercenary army attacking Nicaragua, while the press condemned the Court as a "hostile forum" and therefore irrelevant. The same Court had been highly relevant a few years earlier when it ruled in favor of the US against Iran. Washington dismissed the Court judgment with contempt. In doing so, it joined the distinguished company of Libya's Qaddafi and Albania's Enver Hoxha. Libya and Albania have since joined the world of law-abiding states in this respect, so now the US stands in splendid isolation. Nicaragua then brought the matter to the UN Security Council, which passed two resolutions calling on all states to observe international law. The resolutions were vetoed by the US, with the assistance of Britain and France, which abstained. All of this passed virtually without notice, and has been expunged from history.

Also forgotten -- or rather, never noticed -- is the fact that the "hostile forum" had bent over backwards to accommodate Washington. The Court rejected almost all of Nicaragua's case, presented by a distinguished Harvard University international lawyer, on the grounds that when the US had accepted World Court jurisdiction in 1946, it added a reservation exempting itself from charges under international treaties, specifically the Charters of the United Nations and the Organization of American States. Accordingly, the US is self-entitled to carry out aggression and other crimes that are far more serious than international terrorism. The Court correctly recognized this exemption, one aspect of much broader issues of sovereignty and global dominance that I will put aside.

a partial factual record by Noam Chomsky

"It was really 'big' of Imam Obama to not call George W. Bush a asshole during the speech"

Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.

"What a guy!"

#16 | Posted by NippleClip

What a name!!

Geesh

Welcome back Gman, wishing you luck this time around. Leave the troll shit behind and be a real man.

Speaking of nipple clips, did anyone else read the story about the HS kid who hooked electrodes to his nipples in his shop class and got shocked into unconciousness? He of course is suing the school and his shop teacher.

hosted.ap.org

... this is all posturing for votes in November.

It is more than that. It is closing off the possibility that the U.S. will resume combat operations. Having taken this step, Obama cannot reverse it easily. He is creating the expectation in the American public that the Iraq war is drawing down.

From Goatman's link:

"The New Hampshire Union Leader says Dubois' suit contends he suffered permanent brain damage.

Sounds like he had brain damage prior to this incident.

Who would think of doing something this stupid, otherwise?

It is closing off the possibility that the U.S. will resume combat operations.

But we will maintain a significant presence and soldiers will still be put in harms way. There will still be bloodshed so I see no real reason to rejoice. This is like "Mission Accomplished" in my view.

Mark my words: when these soldiers do actually come home to no jobs and unemployment sky-rockets, the President is really going to get it from the opposing party.

The song "Born in the USA" keeps on running through my head.

Rcade -hold on to that headline. With any luck you'll get to use it again in November.

Hopefully Iraq will remind Americans, as Vietnam used to, that Republicans can't win wars.

Um, I believe Obama is a democrat.

Goat, as your fellow rightie DRsoul points out, Bush signed the Iraq Peace with Honorable Mention agreement, like Herbie in Iraq, Nixon in Vietnam and Ike in Korea. Reagan's surrender was more along the lines of the Italian model-fill your drawers with crap and run away.

And before aflac or his ilk start raving about Bush getting rid of a brutal dictator being worth 4400 KIA, they need to applaud Clinton's brilliant efforts to end ethnic cleansing in Kosovo AND admit conservatives/Republicans were lining up for blocks to suck Saddam's dick until he put the fear of Allah into the saudialquedian royalty.

Reagan's war on terror =arming hezbollah and the mad ayatollahs.

Bush signed the Iraq Peace with Honorable Mention agreement,

Yeah, you're right, NG3. Nixon should've done like Johnson and kept on sending record numbers of troops over there to die needlessly. That would've given you a good chubby, wouldn't it? Good call, dude.

BTW, Korea was a UN, not Ike thing. Read all about it.

Welcome back, GOATMAN

I believe I had the pleasure of being the first you retorted.

I'm practically choked up LOL

LOL Was that you? I didn't even read the Posted by.

Now you know who my favorite is!

Thanks for the welcome mat.

BTW, Korea was a UN, not Ike thing. Read all about it.

"In 1952 the US elected a new president, and on 29 November 1952, the president-elect, Dwight D. Eisenhower, went to Korea to learn what might end the Korean War.

Technically, so were both Bushs' Excellent Iraqi Adventures. If you don't count the costs or casualties.

#27 | Posted by taxman

Per Obama--the resources are going over to Afghanistan.

Thank you President Bush!

And to President Obama!

Nixon should've done like Johnson and kept on sending record numbers of troops over there to die needlessly.

So Vietnam wasn't Nixon's war? But afghanistan and Iraq are Obama's? Explain, please.

Nope, only 41's was sanctioned by the UN. 43's wasn't. You really need to crack open a history book, dude.

And yes, Ike wanted to end the war. So did my grandmother. It was still a UN thing.

en.wikipedia.org

But afghanistan and Iraq are Obama's? Explain, please.

I never made that claim. Take it up with whomever made it. I don't speak for him/her

Welcome back Goatman!

Are you back out to sea on a platform?

Are you back out to sea on a platform?

Long story. In short -- yes and no.

Thanks to Obama, the deepwater drilling fleet is abandoning the GoM. (making the US more dependent on foreign oil, but I'm digressing). My rig went to Africa. I didn't want to go. So I quit. I got hired by another company easily, making more money. They don't have a rig for me yet so I am sitting at home getting paid waiting for an opening. So I guess for the more money and less work, I should be thanking Obama. But I will miss my family of the last 6 years immensely. For that, I curse Obama

LOL Was that you? I didn't even read the Posted by.

Now you know who my favorite is!

Thanks for the welcome mat.

#33 | Posted by goatman

I am touched to be your first retort this summer.

Is this a great country or what?

PS - Did you get the care package of tin cans?

LOL

PS - Did you get the care package of tin cans?

No, but guess who finally mailed me my box of books from Nashville after 2.5 years? LOL

this so called "presi dense y" becomes more and more clownish each day.

I am SO embarassed I know U R 2

#42 | Posted by goatman

The books I gave you back then?

"Turn the Page"

And the next page is the The Cloward/Piven Strategy of Economic Recovery

The Cloward/Piven Strategy is named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Their goal is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands. The created crisis provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.

Welcome back Goatman, to the cesspool of humanity...

Yes. LOL

I had them boxed up before I left and left D $20 to ship them. She finally did. I gave up hounding her after a year. LOL

Welcome back Goatman, to the cesspool of humanity

Much grass, amigo

#47 Much grass, amigo

How's your son? Is he back on a rig yet?

goatmam = shit

I hear the History Channel is working on an oil well rig reality show. Hell, if the swamp folks can get one surely the oil rig guys can too.

How's your son? Is he back on a rig yet?

Yes he is. His is going to Australia. The GoM is going to be an empty place.

During my absence, his wife gave me my #2 grandchild, another girl in July. What a doll she is!

8roper=dork

GOATMAN

You really missed out. I hear Lagos at night is a rockin' city!

You also missed out on millions of dollars just waiting for you if you'd paid the fees to get funds out of the bank for Nigerian and Bulgarian princesses.

Now, you have to continue working. What a shame.

So Vietnam wasn't Nixon's war? But afghanistan and Iraq are Obama's? Explain, please.

Actually it was more Nixon's war than anyone's... he and Kennedy did a bi-partisan thing to get it started... and then Nixon had to accept that it was un-winnable and leave.

Bush-hole knew once he got that mantle trophy for his dad-eh the war was over... he just didn't have the balls to do it himself... so he did that stay the course bullshit... and he scheduled it for the next president to clean up...
I guess he thought no one would notice... just like left it for the next president to raise taxes to save the economy... and pay for 1.3 trillion dollar trophy for his dad-eh... because he didn't have the balls to do either.

The only one's letting him off the hook are the fucked up republiclowns that can't admit they are part of the failure that Bush-hole was.

two of the biggest drains to the economy will be handled... the war in Iraq and those stupid fucking tax breaks to the wealthy will expire.

Actually it was more Nixon's war than anyone's...

It never ceases to amaze me how the republicans pull the strings on major issues when the dems are in power. How stupid the democratic party must be to allow this to happen. LOL

Congrats on the 2nd grandchild! I'm not really looking forward to grandkids considering my kids are 14 and 13...

Republicans have been focused on one thing and one thing only since January 20, 2010: Ensuring the failure of a Democrat President.

Not jobs, not undoing the massive debt they accumulated and didn't care about until they were out of power. Nada. One thing only.

Goatee is back?!!

Well, HELLO! and great to have you back!

And thank you RCADE.

Good to be back in the sty wallowing with my kind, toss old chap.

Memories:

gatewaypundit.firstthings.com

Good Bob Seger song, unless you've heard it a thousand times. Tends to wear.
Actually I haven't heard it on the radio in a long time.

#17 | POSTED BY GOATMAN
"but also a lot of lifestyle changes that demanded my time as well. Long story to tell sometime later."

I trust your health is good?

#62 | POSTED BY BRIWO
"Good Bob Seger song, unless you've heard it a thousand times."

Good Bob Seger song, shitty Metallica song.

Health is good. Thanks for asking.

Obama couldn't piss in a bucket without getting any on you an me!

time to turn the page....and root for record numbers of drone strikes in Afghanistan and "Pah-kee-stawn"...

Where is "W" when we need him??

I think the kids at Dinkless shirts should design a new T to commemorate this moment!

Where are the "Kids in the Hall" when we need them?

#77

Chaulk it up to liberal, youthful, gay indescretion...

Yeah, turn that page quickly, loser. It was the GOP surge that did the job, opposed by you and all the other liberal slime-balls. You were against it. Your buddies said "the war was lost". Your only decisive action was to fire a general that said unpleasant things about YOU.
The boy-man president gave NO recognition to the people that fought against HIM and his clueless cohorts to put the winning strategy in place. How much he would have gained in people's eyes if he had had the magnanimity to acknowledge Bush for putting the winning strategy in place, in spite of his own opposition. But his hubris is too great, so we just got the usual history re-write, willingly gobbled up by the crony press.

And now, like an amateur with a new tool, you think that "surge" strategy will work in Afghanistan. Even during Bush you and Nancy and the rest of the clueless crew couldn't wait to jump harder into Afghanistan. Well, now you're there, with our troops, and they are dying in record-breaking numbers. You don't have a battle strategy. You don't have a victory strategy. You don't have a government-building strategy, but you DO have an exit strategy. Fool. Say you catch someone robbing your house in the middle of the night. Instead of taking care of matters, you tell the guy that you're really mad, and really determined, and that at 10:00 AM, you're gonna be REALLY mad and call the cops. See? That's the way a "community organizer" (e.g. incompetent troublemaker) wages a war. Sad thing here is that many will die due to this blunder.

How much he would have gained in people's eyes if he had had the magnanimity to acknowledge Bush for putting the winning strategy in place...

LOL fucked up on so many levels.

That's the way a "community organizer" (e.g. incompetent troublemaker) wages a war

We'll see.

At least we know how an ex-drunk wannabe cowboy from Connecticut wages a war.

Korea was a fall back position for Truman after his advisors convinced him that backing of MAO was far better than support for Chiang Kai Shek (sp)! He placed soldiers there as a backstop AND to protect the returning Japanese from retaliations for their abusive actions during their long term occupation.

Eisenhower caused casualties due to a stand pat defensive posture that did not allow the taking AND holding of more advantageous defensive ground.

Last I looked LBJ was a Democrat! He squirreled us into the Vietnam war to support the conglomerate RMK-BRJ (the early time Halliburton - those of us 'over there' always thought the 'J' meant Johnson, the 'M' - McNamara). We should NEVER have been there, BUT----!

Nixon is the Father of how to lose in one-easy-step! The Military did everything asked of them, had won the war on-the-ground (kicked their asses BIG TIME!), gave it over to the big guy AND Kissinger to hand back over in Paris!

No big deal, right? Ever been spit on for doing your job? Nice feeling!

Iraq was Bush II's war UNTIL we started moving out w/NO government in place behind us! If they fall apart, it's on OBAMA because he's done NOTHING to support that countries attempt at Democracy! Sending Biden is similar to sending an eight year old to do a man's job! Can't/won't happen! Afganistan is NOW all OBAMA's!

Conversely if they, both, do work - he can have all the credit, no one would even care! One/two less Al-queda whore house's (with the 72 virgins)!

If they decide to pull out of those countries AND draw down the force, they will need to ABBROGATE about seventy-five/eighty - Mutual-Defense Treaties currently in effect for starters!

For those of you who think that the United States IS the only aggressor in this world - lend me some of what you're smoking - while you read up on the KORAN (AND Sharia Law, specifically).

"Nixon is the Father of how to lose in one-easy-step! The Military did everything asked of them, had won the war on-the-ground (kicked their asses BIG TIME!), gave it over to the big guy AND Kissinger to hand back over in Paris! "

Back in college, we were doing Streamers, a play by David Rabe, and because I had a small role and needed a crew credit, volunteered to be assistant director. I thought I had it made when the director said he only had one task for me...and then he dropped the bomb:

"I want to know everything that ever happened in the Vietnam war, and why"

12 books later...I had come to several conclusions:

Johnson was horrifically mislead.

As soon as the Paris Peace Talks began, the US began fighting the war to TIE instead of fighting it to WIN (the leaders, NOT the soldiers).

Nixon & Kissinger accepted virtually the same terms at the end they were offered four years prior. They also made a murderous deal for "plausible deniability" in exchange for the withdrawal: that Saigon wouldn't fall until they could pretend it wasn't because of the pullout.

Time to get out of afganistan.

They had 0% opium production in 2001

now they are the world leader in opium production.

You cannot make heroin without expensive controlled chemicals.

someone is shipping TOONS of these chemicals into afganistan

obviously the governments are allowing this.

its too obvious.

It was the GOP surge that did the job, opposed by you and all the other liberal slime-balls. You were against it.

The surge was a waste of lives, resources and time. You can't impose democracy; the people must want it. The civil war that should have happened years ago is finally going to be allowed to happen.

"Iraq was Bush II's war UNTIL we started moving out w/NO government in place behind us! If they fall apart, it's on OBAMA because he's done NOTHING to support that countries attempt at Democracy!"

They are starting early with the dishonest talking points, yesterday they were bragging how Bush won the war and created a lasting democracy but now they are already realilzing that the great Iraqi democracy will crumble like dry sand and they are already trying to shift the blame away from the POS who led us into Iraq in the first place.

when chaos ensues because of the political vaccum what will obama do? how far down will he let iraq spiral before sending troops back in? it will not take that long. the insurgents will not head to afghanistan until we leave next year, stay and distablize iraq is the easier goal

"they were bragging how Bush won the war and created a lasting democracy but now they are already realilzing that the great Iraqi democracy will crumble like dry sand"

Too true Danni! The hypocrisy here is bitter and convoluded. How long do folks want us to stay there? Heard one analyst talking about a long lasting ally in the ME - Sure, as long as we stay there ad inifinitum.

#82 | POSTED BY DANFORTH
"Back in college, we were doing Streamers, a play by David Rabe"

Saw that show in college, one of my first, but never did it.

#82 | POSTED BY DANFORTH
"Back in college, we were doing Streamers, a play by David Rabe"

Saw that show in college, one of my first, but never did it.

Ah, a post so nice I did it twice.

biggest question..

who would fall asleep first

me or him??

and thank you sir from our enemies

thank you for confirming the surrender date on afghanistan

also..
""jumpstart the economy"...another stimulous?

"dependence on foriegn oil"....cap and tax...

good stuff

nice but incomplete comments about w

GREAT closing on men and women of military

for all of you who question the resuls

take comments from the POTUS HIMSELF

paraphrased...Iraq has a chance to make a better future

and a more secure america...

his words not mine...

Nope, only 41's was sanctioned by the UN. 43's wasn't. You really need to crack open a history book, dude.

#37 | Posted by goatman

so you are saying bush's war was illegal? thanks for playing.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--
defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq ; and
enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq .

there was also a congressional vote if I remember correctly.

"paraphrased...Iraq has a chance to make a better future"

I have a chance to win the lottery every week. Sometimes I buy five chances. Still haven't ever won though. But I can hope and so too can Iraqis and I join them in doing so, nothing would be better than to see them succeed. I won't hold my breath though.

yes congress authorized him to enforce the un resolution, no un resolution authorizing invasion, thus bush did something he wasnt authorized to do.

Thanks for playing.

"defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq"

We sure spent an awful lot of money and lost a tragic number of soldiers defending us against an imaginary threat. Bush will never run away from that legacy, Obama didn't need to remind us and didn't.

imaginary threat??

please....

and again...HIS words not mine.

yes congress authorized him to enforce the un resolution, no un resolution authorizing invasion, thus bush did something he wasnt authorized to do.

Thanks for playing.

#88 | Posted by truthhurts at 2010-09-01 11:15 AM

So in other words, Congress is to blame for authorizing a non enforcable UN authorized resolution? So like the intel briefs which were never read, the House never read the UN resolution either?

Why anyone would want to brag or take credit for the fucking disaster that was Iraq is beyond me...

a more secure america and a chance to decide their OWN destiny

HEY NOW I know why libux dont want that in iraq...they dont want those two things here either...

also from 'insomina exercise'

"my campaign pledge"

"plan I came up with"

hey dick...its not ABOUT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"
imaginary threat??

please...."

So, realistically what threat did Iraq pose for America???

its one less middle east country run by a murdering dictator who paid cash for suicide murderers.......

this debate can go on for a long time but one thing not debateble

the surge worked and if DEMS had gotten thier way...our enemies would be running iraq...

And I am sure the Iraqis would still prefer that.

ALSO as to speach...I thought this guy was like...you know...a great orator..

www.redstate.com

ALSO just heard comments from david gergen....obama has LOST him...and thats a telling sign.

still prefer to fear from torture and rape rooms and gasing kurds and tortureing soccer team members for losing..
MASS GRAVES....

uh...okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

so you are saying bush's war was illegal?

???

No, reread my statement. I said it wasn't sanctioned by the UN. I sometimes wonder how people like you get along in life with such poor reading comprehension.

BTW, I have no idea if it was legal or not. I am not a legal scholar. If it was clearly and undeniably illegal, I suggest you get a lawyer and have brought charges against him. You have that right -- indeed, duty -- as an American citizen. Let us now how that works out.

thanks for playing

You're welcome.

"GREAT closing on men and women of military"

Yes. But I'm sure no righties will give credit for that. The "pre-dawn darkness" language was cliched claptrap, but the bit about "our troops are the steel in the ship of state" was great. Loved that.

Some idiot Republican pol this morning said something like, "The president did not give enough credit to his predecessor, for his strength in the face of withering criticism." Well, duh, this president though that president was WRONG to start the fucking thing. Why would he give credit beyond what he gave? What a STUPID criticism--grasping at straws. I thought it was classy that President Obama said what he said about Bush, and following it with the line about patriots who supported and patriots who dissented (whatever that language was) was brilliant. (I don't care if Obama wrote it or not; it was smart politically and fucking TRUE.)

Sure, the speech was pure politics. And I said to a friend before it aired that I was going to view Obama's bullshit speech. Not because I think he in particular is full of shit, but because he was playing the politician. And yes, to some degree, this was Mission Accomplished. At the same time, as Rcade said, it was more than that--a clear signal that he can't return troop levels to former status.

Oh, and guess what? Some fool here made the fucking economy argument--yeah, that's a great reason to stay at war and keep spending money. Yeah, great. Of course, most of these troops will likely go to Afghanistan anyway, which to my way of thinking is a lost cause. But this president is doing what he said he wanted to do. Remember the campaign, folks? He talked consistently about moving the focus to Afghanistan. Agree with it or not (and I don't), he's doing what he said he would do.

I like the idea that "combat" is officially declared to be over by Obama but today our guys were shooting at their guys and their guys were shooting at our guys but that's not "combat". What will it be called tomorrow and the next day and the next?

More Obama BS!

Also, during his campaign Obama stated numerous times that he would have all of the troops home within 16 months of taking office. We still have 50K troops in Iraq and another 40K in Kuwait as support. That's a total of 90K toops away from their homes and families serving multiple deployments. Many of these troops are reservists who have now lost their jobs due to the multiple deployments.

Bring all of the troops home now!

Another broken campaign promise.

Mission Accomplished (again)

its one less middle east country run by a murdering dictator who paid cash for suicide murderers.......

#96 | Posted by afkabl2

So being that America is the Beacon for Truth, Justice, and the American Way, spreading Peace, Democracy, and Liberty worldwide no matter the costs to its soldiers and their families, when is the US going into Africa to right the wrongs that have been occurring there for decades, to avenge the wanton slaughter of millions, to depose the most brutal dictators ever to live?

bush has sent billions to africa..something the most liberal progressive dupes will never admit.

bush has sent billions to africa..something the most liberal progressive dupes will never admit.

#105 | Posted by afkabl2

That's not an answer. Those "billions" freed nobody. The machetes are still slicing and dicing indiscriminately.

The destitute sons-a-bitches on the planet live across the African continent. Many don't even have the luxury of living in massive slums like in India or Pakistan or Rio or BA.

Billions? Phhhhfttt! Who really gets those billions?

"The destitute sons-a-bitches "

Amend:

The mostdestitute sons-a-bitches"

"Billions? Phhhhfttt! Who really gets those billions?"

And what were those billions for? Wasn't that AIDS money? We can respect Bush for (some of) that work, but your comment, Afk, misses the point about despots, etc. Though you are right--many leftwingers do not acknowledge that work. It's the one thing for which I am ready to give Mr. Bush credit.

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