Ah muslims.... the new punching bag for racists.

Posted by 726 at 2010-08-23 07:06 PM | Reply

What race are mooslims, anyhow? If we're supposed to be racist, you gotta give us a racial profile against which we can focus our faux rage.

Nice headline that perfectly represents the feeling that the Washington Post wanted it's readers to feel. That's why they didn't mention any of this:

"But if some people in Murfreesboro want the county to reject construction of the new mosque, they also wanted -- and won -- rejection of a proposed Bible theme park in the city. "It isn't about Islam or religion, it's about where they want to build,"

"Along with worries over increased traffic on a road he says is already too dangerous, Fisher says the Center's plans to one day have a cemetery could generate soil and water contamination. Ayash says that while one member of the Center is already buried on the property, without a coffin, "in accord with Islamic custom,"

Oh Boy!!!!! Better hide under the bed, teabaggers!!!!!

Quick!!!

Now the DEAD MOOSLIMS are out to get you.

WOE IS US!!!!!

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!! WE ARE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!

ah nicely done axe....you know, for you.... hee hee...

maybe if people in virginia where the muslim fuck who aided the underwear guy and the time square dumbshit.,...maybe if they had been more carefull ,that asshole would still be in jail here, cause he was in a mosque there sounding an awfull like the 9.11 prick is today.

If CheneyBush had not directed the US gov't agencies to ignore the hijackers, the attacks still wouldn't have happened.

Everyone, including Mossad and Mi-6 and every other intelligence organization in the world knew they were here and that they had plans to perform an attack inside the US.

If Cheney had not made the Strategic Air Command perform war games on 9-01-01, the attacks wouldn't have happened.

If, if, if.....

If the 25% of americans that are technically mentally retarded would pull their head out of their asses, Bush and Cheney both would be in prison right now for starting this whole lie-based Islamic false-flag bullshit.

Ah muslims.... the new punching bag for racists.

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2010-08-23 07:06 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Posted by 726 at 2010-08-23 07:06 PM | Reply

What race are mooslims, anyhow? If we're supposed to be racist, you gotta give us a racial profile against which we can focus our faux rage.

#2 | Posted by SHEEPLESHEPERD

He won't answer you. He's a seagull poster.

Why is it the right of people to protest is getting shit on so much by Democrats? Does the 1st Amendment only apply to causes you agree with?

Now the DEAD MOOSLIMS are out to get you.
WOE IS US!!!!!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!! WE ARE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!

#4 | Posted by axe

This idiot Rauf was supposed to raise awareness that most (99%) Muslims are moderates.

He failed.

All he had to do was to back down to the requests of the families of the 911 victims.

His actions made us all realize that perhaps there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

Rauf isn't!

And Axe, you're an idiot for not seeing that.

Why is it the right of people to protest is getting shit on so much by Democrats? Does the 1st Amendment only apply to causes you agree with?

#8 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Because they're so pissed off at their leadership in Washington?

They take it out on the American people who don't want Socialism.

Sad!

Why is it the right of people to protest is getting shit on so much by Democrats?

It isn't at all. Aside from Pelosi being an idiot, there is no calls to silence the protesters. Mocking them is only practicing our free speech rights to call the protesters morons.

Shitting on rights is when you try to silence or stop something...like building a Mosque.

Does the 1st Amendment only apply to causes you agree with?

#8 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Only if your cause is a lib cause. Conservatives have no rights.

It isn't at all. Aside from Pelosi being an idiot, there is no calls to silence the protesters. Mocking them is only practicing our free speech rights to call the protesters morons.

#11 | Posted by kanrei

To say that Rauf is moderate is not moronic?

#9 Eddie

Everything you post is totally (wrong) right!

Only if your cause is a lib cause. Conservatives have no rights.

#12 | Posted by Sniper

Conservatives do now. They are waking up and fighting back against the lying elite.

Most of the issues of late have been the far-left saying that a cross section of America is racist and bigoted.

They've lost every one of those battles.

I'm embarrassed for them.

They've lost every one of those battles.

#15 | Posted by Eddie

including this one.

This issue has brought to light the anti-Islam attitudes prevalent in our country. It's sad and sometimes shocking to see and hear what people say, but it's necessary for growth in our understanding.

Would there be the same out cry if they tried to build a church near the Oklahoma City federal building because they were christian terrorists?

#9 Eddie

Everything you post is totally (wrong) right!

#14 | Posted by Scrumplet

Prove it!

Or be just another Libbie hack

George Hanson: You know, this used to be a helluva good country. I can't understand what's gone wrong with it.

Billy: Man, everybody got chicken, that's what happened. Hey, we can't even get into like, a second-rate hotel, I mean, a second-rate motel, you dig? They think we're gonna cut their throat or somethin'. They're scared, man.

George Hanson: They're not scared of you. They're scared of what you represent to 'em.

Billy: Hey, man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody who needs a haircut.

George Hanson: Oh, no. What you represent to them is freedom.

Billy: What the hell is wrong with freedom? That's what it's all about.

George Hanson: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free, 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em.

Billy: Well, it don't make 'em runnin' scared.

George Hanson: No, it makes 'em dangerous. Buh, neh! Neh! Neh! Neh! Swamp!

Re #3 - Your post will be ingored the circle jerk will continue.

This issue has brought to light the anti-Islam attitudes prevalent in our country. It's sad and sometimes shocking to see and hear what people say, but it's necessary for growth in our understanding.

#17 | Posted by Scrumplet

Then why is Imam Rauf behaving the way he is.

He's insulting and insensative, but because he's an arrogant asshole bent on proving his point, he won't back down.

He's insulting the families of the 911 victims in his persistence in saying that Islam is a peaceful religion.

You can't talk about the behavior of Americans until you clear this one up.

"Would there be the same out cry if they tried to build a church near the Oklahoma City federal building because they were christian terrorists?"

Nobody used Christianity as an excuse to blow up that building. Al Queda routinely uses Islam to justify its actions.

Duh.

because they were christian terrorists?

#18 | Posted by Species8472

Uh... can you link to the article that explains McVeigh did that in the name of G-d?

McVeigh was an Agnostic. It could be argued fairly easily he was a White Supremest due to his love of the Turner Diaries.

The KKK eat turnips?

oh, wait...

Are you implying only racists eat turnips? Because only racists read the Turner Diaries.

Nobody used Christianity as an excuse to blow up that building. Al Queda routinely uses Islam to justify its actions.

Bullshit. Tim McVeigh blew up that building as revenge against the federal government's siege on a Christian compound.

Ah yes, the "useful idiots" of the left are out in full force I see....

Notice all the childish name calling vs. any real debate. Saul Alinsky taught his children well....

Oh yea, Eddie hit it right in the head in # 17...but the left would rather e-mail insults. Very sad

Tim McVeigh blew up that building as revenge against the federal government's siege on a Christian compound.

sort of true. It was that the government came for the guns that set him off, not the religious aspect.

#19 posted by Eddie

"Hack," huh? I thought "hacks" were the people who parroted talking points they got from fact-twisting blowhards?

I don't follow Rachel Maddow, can't stand listening to Amy Goodman, am past sick of reading non-fiction on "the way things are and the way things should be" told to me by someone else's obviously slanted framing. I'll learn the facts myself and make judgements based on my own train of logic and what my moral compass says.

Please, prove to me that, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Rauf is not a moderate Muslim. Link to me a report (not from some conservative blogger's website). YOU have the burden of proof, as far as him being a radical goes.

But that's not the issue. This is a 1st Amendment issue. This is an issue of the media misreporting something (it's not at Ground Zero) in order to stir up the public. This is an issue of too many Americans having no idea about the religion of Islam.

Of course there will always be whackjobs out there who think that there is a "Sharia-law" agenda, but the public needs to be educated, needs to realize about the more than 1 billion Muslims who live on this planet. If their religion's goal was to take over the world, we'd have a hella lot more problems than we do now.

Many Americans hate and distrust Muslims. Those Americans don't want a mosque built anywhere in this country. No matter where it is located, such Americans will find it to be hateful and inappropriate.

What race are mooslims, anyhow? If we're supposed to be racist, you gotta give us a racial profile against which we can focus our faux rage.

White people can't be racists. White people don't have the authority to implement their racism. The President and the Attorney general are both black so only black people can now be racists.

What people fear is themselves. They imagine people doing horrible things to them, but it is not the people they fear imagining those horrible scenarios; it is them.

McVeigh palled around with the Christian Identity movement. Good enough evidence.

Eddie must be Googling the Turner Diaries right now. He probably never heard of it before when he tried being smart with me.

#22 posted by Eddie

"He's insulting and insensative, but because he's an arrogant asshole bent on proving his point, he won't back down.
He's insulting the families of the 911 victims in his persistence in saying that Islam is a peaceful religion."

YOUR viewpoint is insulting and insensitive. I've attended Mosque services and talked with the Imams, gone to musical festivals where the rappers preached nothing but peace, worked with and made friends with Muslims, all here in America. I've travelled with, drank tea with, and dined with and discussed with Muslims in Morocco.

You can blah-dee-fucking-blah all you want here. I've actually experienced. It wasn't a religion that attacked us on 9/11. It was a bunch of ass-holes, who were hoping for the type of reaction that people like you are displaying.

Bullshit. Tim McVeigh blew up that building as revenge against the federal government's siege on a Christian compound.

#28 | Posted by Manypaths

We've got a live one!

I don't think that all the fuss has anything to do with the Muslim Religeon. I think it's more about the fact that Muslims have repeatedly attacked America and have shown no remorse for it. And our own government has repeatedly bent over backwards to accomodate Muslims in this country stressing tolerance and trying to make the argument that those Muslims who attack us are just misguided and the exception to the rule. Well here's a question...If non-Muslim Americans are to bend over backwards to accomodate and tolerate Muslims, should Muslims not have the same standard? Building a Mosque near Ground Zero is nothing more than a way to stick a thumb in the eye of the U.S.

"McVeigh palled around with the Christian Identity movement. Good enough evidence."

Only if you're desperately trying to make a point that can't legitimately be made.

Islamic extremists blow stuff up and then come out and say "WE DID IN THE NAME OF ISLAM!" They can't speak a sentence without mentioning Jihad, Allah or Islam.

They leave no room for interpretation and they are proud of their motives. If you think McVeigh was a Christian version of this, you're you are choosing to believe something that is factually untrue.

Islamic extremists blow stuff up and then come out and say "WE DID IN THE NAME OF ISLAM!" They can't speak a sentence without mentioning Jihad, Allah or Islam.

And when they do, ignorant folks like you agree with them and stick their heads back up their asses.

The rest of understand that they don't speak for an entire religion.

You lack of understanding should not affect the rest of us.

Tell ya what, bogey1355, the Muslims will remove all the Mosques out of the America when America removes all its military personnel and weaponry, and financial support for corrupt entities from the Middle East.

Deal?

I'm embarrassed for them.
#15 | Posted by Eddie

You should be embarrassed for you, Haskell.

Eddie must be Googling the Turner Diaries right now. He probably never heard of it before when he tried being smart with me.

#36 | Posted by kanrei

Oh, it's Turner?

I was googling Turnip...

"before when he tried being smart with me."
you're trying to be funny, right? Please say yes...

I'm embarrassed for them.
#15 | Posted by Eddie

You should be embarrassed for you, Haskell.

#43 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Not to be embarrased for Libbie behavior is a statement, Duckie.

I wonder if Sully would except the fact that Fred Phelps speaks for all of Christianity or if he's just a two-faced schmuck?

"Bullshit. Tim McVeigh blew up that building as revenge against the federal government's siege on a Christian compound."

For political reasons. He's was one of those militia kooks who desperately look for examples of "the government coming for our guns and our rights" and the Davidian thing was the closest thing he could find.

He wasn't a Davidian himself so why would you claim that Davidian beliefs had anything to do with his motives?

I don't get why you people are so desperate to make a point that isn't there that you're willing to pretend you don't understand basic logic.

YOUR viewpoint is insulting and insensitive. I've attended Mosque services and talked with the Imams, gone to musical festivals where the rappers preached nothing but peace, worked with and made friends with Muslims, all here in America. I've travelled with, drank tea with, and dined with and discussed with Muslims in Morocco.

You can blah-dee-fucking-blah all you want here. I've actually experienced. It wasn't a religion that attacked us on 9/11. It was a bunch of ass-holes, who were hoping for the type of reaction that people like you are displaying.

#37 | Posted by Scrumplet

I married a Muslim. I became a Muslim 25 years ago. I made a huge mistake. My wife, 17 years later and on her own became a Christian after years of research and from no influence from me (I'm not a practicing Christian). Please don't pretend you know me.

Don't give me this bullshit about your overwhelming tolerance. You're coming off as an ignorant buffoon!

AGAIN!

Rauf is insulting and insensative.

Duckie, this is what I mean by embarrassing.

He's was one of those militia kooks who desperately look for examples of "the government coming for our guns and our rights" and the Davidian thing was the closest thing he could find.

Maybe we should investigate changing the second amendment. Seems to be all the rave with Republicans these days.

"I wonder if Sully would except the fact that Fred Phelps speaks for all of Christianity or if he's just a two-faced schmuck?"

I wonder why you think I claim that terrorists speak for all Muslims.

Pointing out that Islamic terrorists use Islam to justify their actions is not saying that all Muslms agree.

You can blah-dee-fucking-blah all you want here. I've actually experienced. It wasn't a religion that attacked us on 9/11. It was a bunch of ass-holes, who were hoping for the type of reaction that people like you are displaying.

#37 | Posted by Scrumplet at

Then Rauf needs to be sensitive to the fact that they did it in the name of G-D as Muslims and back down when the families of the 911 victims asked him to.

Instead he tried to make this about "Islam is a peaceful religion" and he wanted to raise awareness of this. All he accomplished was that he is not a "moderate Muslim". I know many moderate Muslims and he ain't no moderate Muslim.

I guess he didn't realize that we all would find out that he's anti-American later on. When he found that out, he should have backed down.

It's insulting that he persists. And it's insulting that the Libbies are defending him as they would defend Ward Churchill. Pathetic!

Not to be embarrased...
#45 | Posted by Eddie

...in your case, Eddie, is to deny reality.

Only if your cause is a lib cause. Conservatives have no rights.

#12 | Posted by Sniper at 2010-08-24 04:48 PM | Reply | Flag: FUCKING CRYBABY

I think you may have misunderstood me. IMHO, American's don't have a problem with Muslims. What they have a problem with is the double standard expected by Muslims and provided by our own government. There is little secret that were things reversed, that the whole backing of the President and Congress would do whatever necessary to prevent offending Muslims.

Ah muslims.... the new poster child for liberal America haters and traitors

#1 | Posted by 726

There I fixed it for you. Thank me later.

Tell ya what, bogey1355, the Muslims will remove all the Mosques out of the America when America removes all its military personnel and weaponry, and financial support for corrupt entities from the Middle East.

Deal?

#42 | Posted by ExpectingReign

Are you saying that Mosques really ARE radicalized and really are tactical moves of some military nature?

Are you saying that Mosques really ARE radicalized and really are tactical moves of some military nature?
#56 | Posted by Eddie

Are you fucking stupid?

Don't bother to answer.
It's a rhetorical question.

"They've lost every one of those battles.
#15 | Posted by Eddie

"including this one.
#16 | Posted by Eddie"

Is this a new technique on the DR? Responding to your own posts? Or is this just a Special Eddie?

Only if your cause is a lib cause. Conservatives have no rights.

#12 | Posted by Sniper at 2010-08-24 04:48 PM | Reply | Flag: FUCKING CRYBABY

#53 | Posted by mOntecOre

That was a little over the top, eh?

lose with grace...

Are you saying that Mosques really ARE radicalized and really are tactical moves of some military nature?
#56 | Posted by Eddie

Are you fucking stupid?

Don't bother to answer.
It's a rhetorical question.

#57 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Duckie, start at the top of the thread and follow the flow...

It will come clear. Well, for you? Maybe not...

I think you may have misunderstood me. IMHO, American's don't have a problem with Muslims. What they have a problem with is the double standard expected by Muslims and provided by our own government. There is little secret that were things reversed, that the whole backing of the President and Congress would do whatever necessary to prevent offending Muslims.

#54 | Posted by bogey1355

Good post....

Are you listening Scrumpy?

Eddie, I'm sorry for mouthing off and assuming you had no prior experience, sorry that things didn't go better for you back in the day.

That said, you're not making a good case against Rauf or against the building of the community center. What is the reasoning behind the opposition, that "it's built on Ground Zero"? It's not on Ground Zero. It's two blocks away. This should not be an issue.

Christian whackjobs bombed abortion clinics. Did people speak up in protest about any Christian churches that were built nearby? Granted, 9/11 was a hella lot bigger deal, of course, but still no excuse for a special suspension of the First Amendment (that's what Al Qaeda would want).

I'm sorry that some 9/11 victims' families may feel a strong opposition, but there are families of 9/11 victims who would be upset if they knew that this community center were not built for the reasons of those protesting. People who think it's a full-fledged Mosque being built "on Ground Zero" need to get up to speed before an honest debate takes place.

"Don't give me this bullshit about your overwhelming tolerance..."

It's insulting that people are being attacked for defending "Freedom of Religion." That's straight-up what this is. Two blocks away. Not a thumb in the eye to anyone.

And please, I'm still waiting for your links showing that Rauf is "anti-American," and that his intentions with building a community center are to "stick it to" anyone.

Or keep calling me names, whatever.

#54 posted by the bogeyman

I don't get the "double-standard" part. Where is the double-standard here?

Folks like Eddie need to keep their feelings in their pussies.

Eddie, serious question. On average about how many times a day do people (right, left and center) tell you that they think you are an idiot? And do you think all those people are just being mean or is there maybe a reason based on your posts?

Duckie, start at the top of the thread and follow the flow...
#60 | Posted by Eddie

Mon petit poulet, one can start at the top, middle, or end of the thread, or jump in at any point along the way, and nothing changes: you're the cracked record playing in an empty juke joint the morning after the night before.

It's insulting that people are being attacked for defending "Freedom of Religion." That's straight-up what this is. Two blocks away. Not a thumb in the eye to anyone.
#62 | Posted by Scrumplet

Rauf is making it about Freedom of Religion when he hates America as Ward Churchill hates American. I have zero tolerance for him!

Here's the link, btw, that made me pay attention to him:

Duckie, start at the top of the thread and follow the flow...
#60 | Posted by Eddie

Mon petit poulet, one can start at the top, middle, or end of the thread, or jump in at any point along the way, and nothing changes: you're the cracked record playing in an empty juke joint the morning after the night before.

#66 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

ANd you're not?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

You idiot!

Folks like Eddie need to keep their feelings in their pussies.

#64 | Posted by Manypaths

Do you come here to get your ass kicked because you like it or because you're just too stupid to know how stupid you are?

It isn't at all. Aside from Pelosi being an idiot, there is no calls to silence the protesters. Mocking them is only practicing our free speech rights to call the protesters morons.
Shitting on rights is when you try to silence or stop something...like building a Mosque.

#11 | POSTED BY KANREI

Kanrei I'm sorry this is crap. The government is not stopping the Mosque from being built and the protesters have no power to stop it. They are using their Constitutionally protected right to peaceful expression to try to convince the Imam to move the project, or convince construction workers not to build it, or make people who would have been willing to donate to the project unwilling to do so.

All of that is perfectly fine. You may disagree with what they are doing and guess what? That's your constitutional right as well.

Do you come here to get your ass kicked because you like it or because you're just too stupid to know how stupid you are?

#69 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-24 06:30 PM

Funny coming from the dumbest man on the retort.

how many people were murdered in the world today by muslims? just from today's headlines it looks like hundreds.

Eddie, serious question. On average about how many times a day do people (right, left and center) tell you that they think you are an idiot? And do you think all those people are just being mean or is there maybe a reason based on your posts?

#65 | Posted by moder8

It's all people on the left and it's right after I've told them something about themselves that they wish they didn't know.

Like yourself for example.

You don't like it that you just found out today that you are anti-American and behaved like a jackass defending this anti-American asshole, Rauf.

You foolishly attacked already insulted Americans by saying they were, what was it, their constitutional rights to Freedom of Religion?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Do you have any links to the contrary?

If you define idiot as making you into an ass, then I guess I'm an idiot.

Much like when Don Imus called the Rutgers girls basketball team the "nappy headed hoes" his firing wasn't a violation of the first amendment, it was a business decision brought about by the actions of protesters. They went after CBS sponsors and threatened boycotts of CBS and in the end got what they wanted. I don't think Imus should have been fired and I think Sharpton was a piece of shit for what he did, but he used his constitutional right to protest... just as these Americans protesting this mosque are.

Rob,

You aren't referring to the First are you?

"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

Libtards usually stop reading after the "prohibition of public displays of religion" part..... (snark)

"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

Its amazing to me that the Left is trying to hammer the Right for not respecting the First Amendment, while at the same time they're disrespecting the First Amendment!

just as these Americans protesting this mosque are.

#74 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

They are not seeking to shut it down. They are asking the Rauf to move it. If Rauf doesn't move it, then the protests will go away after a while.

There's a GULF of difference here.

Imus is not a bigot. He hates everyone. However, he did apologize for something he did and COULDN'T undo.

Rauf is a bigot. He never apologized, but he CAN undo it.

I suspect after November this issue will be as quickly forgotten as yesterday's lunch.

"They are not seeking to shut it down"

So they're not trying to prevent the commmunity center from being built where those backing it have received zoning/planning permission to build it?

"They are asking the Rauf to move it."

So they're trying to prevent the commmunity center from being built where those backing it have received zoning/planning permission to build it.

Okay, I'm sold. Eddie's not the idiot he appears to be. Behold! We have a poster who is capable of holding two contradictory ideas at the same time.

That was F. Scott Fitzgerald's "true test of a first-rate mind."

Of course, Fitzgerald was a hopeless alcoholic who couldn't shake his Zelda habit.

"It's all people on the left and it's right after I've told them something about themselves that they wish they didn't know."

Oooooh, I know just what you mean, Eddie. I mean, I never really wanted to know that there isn't any racism in Colorado and there you went, tearing the blindness from my eyes. LOL!

I suspect after November this issue will be as quickly forgotten as yesterday's lunch.
#78 | Posted by SHEEPLESHEPERD

One may hope so. But I'm pretty sure the fallout will linger for a long, long time, both here and -- at least as tragically -- abroad.

So they're trying to prevent the commmunity center from being built where those backing it have received zoning/planning permission to build it.

Zoning and planning permissions outweigh the people's right to protest? I don't remember that part of the Constitution.

#79 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Duckie,

you have just jumped the shark.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

The next 100 posts are going to be him hoplessly trying to explain himself.

moder8,

Duckie is one of those who keeps coming back because I keep him awake at night. The multiple posts are not an indication... no.

There will be more... many more.

See what I mean moder8?

... moder8?

A question to anyone on the Left or anyone who is opposed to these protesters, what do you want? I get that you want the Imam to be allowed to build his mosque, but what do you want of the protesters?

"So they're trying to prevent the commmunity center from being built where those backing it have received zoning/planning permission to build it."

Zoning and planning permissions outweigh the people's right to protest? I don't remember that part of the Constitution.

#82 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Rob,

Duckie's, being an idiot because he couldn't think of anything else to say. Ignore him.

#85 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

I'm still waiting for his definition of contradictory...

LOL!!!

Zoning and planning permissions outweigh the people's right to protest? I don't remember that part of the Constitution.
#82 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Where, exactly, have I said people don't have a right to protest? Or that they should be prevented from protesting? That's right, nowhere.

Watch out, Rob. You hang around Eddie long enough and you run the risk of becoming nearly as obtuse as he is.

But to maintain, as Eddie does, that the protestors are simultaneously trying to move and trying not to move the building is megastupidity.

Ignore him.

#86 | POSTED BY EDDIE

No, I'm annoyed with people on the Left crying about the first Amendment while shitting on people peacefully protesting under the protections of the motherfucking First Amendment.

here, exactly, have I said people don't have a right to protest? Or that they should be prevented from protesting? That's right, nowhere

Well then what the fuck do you (and the rest of the Left) want? No one on the Right is saying they can't build the mosque, they just protesting that they don't want the mosque there.

So what do you guys want?

I'm still waiting for his definition of contradictory...
#87 | Posted by Eddie

That's because you're a loon, Eddie. Get off your fat arse and get some exercise: look the freaking word up and see what it says. Then report back to us and explain how your idea that the protestors aren't trying to shut down construction of the building, they just want it moved differs from the idea that they want to shut down construction on that site.

Undoubtedly we'll get most of the cards in your deck: Eddie as victim, Eddie as misunderstood, other posters as morons because of your inability to express yourself with clarity. But the card that remains on the table, always, is the one of Eddie as buffoon.

You're so easy to put on the run, Eddie. Run, Eddie, run! LOL!

RobA: What I would like to see is for the opponents of the "mosque" to stop insinuating that it somehow represents a 'victory dance' or a trophy to commemorate 9-11. Those assertions are stupid and divisive. I would also like to see opponents of the "mosque" stop in their attempt to politicize it. Whether you agree or disagree with the decision to build the "mosque", it should not be cast in political terms. In fact, President Obama basically said as much when he made his statements on the subject. Politicizing only serves the motives of others with a deeper and different, anti-Muslim, agenda.

And for god's sake, can somebody shut that lunatic Eddie up? He's like a yapping dog.

"No one on the Right is saying they can't build the mosque, they just protesting that they don't want the mosque there."

You seem to have escaped Eddie's orbit of inanity. Yes, they say the mosque should not be built there. Which pretty much torpedoes Eddie's patently ridiculous, ""They are not seeking to shut it down." Of course they're seeking to shut it down, as in shutting it down at that site.

Opposing those protesting along those lines is not an attempt to shut off their right to protest; it is done because of a disagreement about the core argument. Basically, I suspect most of them would say, placing the building there is just fine.

It's a difference of opinion, not an attempt to prevent people from exercising their rights.

"A question to anyone on the Left or anyone who is opposed to these protesters, what do you want? I get that you want the Imam to be allowed to build his mosque, but what do you want of the protesters?
#85 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole"

Are people on the Left calling for the gov't to stop the protesters from protesting? No. They are simply exercising their first amendment right to criticize the protesters. How is that anti-first amendment?

"That was a little over the top, eh?
#59 | Posted by Eddie"

Uh, no dickface.

Are people on the Left calling for the gov't to stop the protesters from protesting? No. They are simply exercising their first amendment right to criticize the protesters. How is that anti-first amendment?

#95 | POSTED BY MONTECORE

Is that the cry from the right? I don't think I've heard people asking for the government to step in here.

If they are they are fucking idiots, because the last thing a Republican should want is for the Fed to tell people if they can worship God on private property.

In fact, President Obama basically said as much when he made his statements on the subject.

If it shouldn't be politicized then the last person that should have weighed in on the subject is President Obama.

#91 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Duckie,

You idiot!

You really thought that those were statements that contradicted one another, possibly to prove some NON-point and then jumped the shark.

"They are not seeking to shut it down."

"They are asking Rauf to move it"

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Duckie, how can you miss this?

"The first question Matthews hit him with was how far away did the project need to be from Ground Zero until it would be acceptable to him."

Far enough away, that if a landing gear assembly from a plane in the attack wouldn't have fallen on top of it.....

I was away for a bit. Let's see where Lil' Eddie's gotten himself to by now.

When last I looked, Eddie was attempting to square the circle by claiming that while the protestors "are not seeking to shut it down" they are seeking to shut it down at that location so it can be moved.

"You really thought that those were statements that contradicted one another...
#99 | Posted by Eddie"

Indeed. Know why? Because they do contradict one another. Let's see if I can put this in a way you'll understand (doubtful):

A. They not trying to shut the building down.
B. But they want the building not to be built on that site.
C. Therefore, they want the building on that site shut down.
D. So it can be moved to another site.
E. But they are not trying to shut the building down.
F. Just on that site; that's where they want it shut down.
G. That's where they're trying to shut it down, but they don't want it shut down.

Jeezus, what a schmeckel.

It wasn't a religion that attacked us on 9/11. It was a bunch of ass-holes, who were hoping for the type of reaction that people like you are displaying.

Yep. This is exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted -- for the U.S. to go to war with Muslims. The Muslim haters are giving him Al Qaeda its biggest propaganda victory in years.

Far enough away, that if a landing gear assembly from a plane in the attack wouldn't have fallen on top of it..

That's BS. If it was four blocks away, you'd come up with a different criteria. The end justifies the means. It's not on ground zero. It's two city blocks away.

Yep. This is exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted -- for the U.S. to go to war with Muslims. The Muslim haters are giving him Al Qaeda its biggest propaganda victory in years.

#103 | POSTED BY RCADE

If we're so concerned with what Osama Bin Laden thinks, I wonder what his thoughts would be on a mosque so close to where he had his greatest victory over America? I bet he'd think its pretty fucking great... so I guess that means we better not do it.

#102 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at

This man-crush you have is creepy.

"This man-crush you have is creepy."

That you think it is a "man-crush" is telling.

Very telling.

"It wasn't a religion that attacked us on 9/11. It was a bunch of ass-holes, who were hoping for the type of reaction that people like you are displaying."

Yep. This is exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted -- for the U.S. to go to war with Muslims. The Muslim haters are giving him Al Qaeda its biggest propaganda victory in years.

#103 | Posted by rcade

Who are the Muslim haters?

A victory for Osama? Bullshit!

Google "rauf america is worse than al qaeda"

Very telling.

#107 | Posted by Hans

He stalks me and replies with verbose passion to most of my posts?

He seeks me out daily!

You aren't jealous, are you, Hans?

Who are the Muslim haters?

The morons protesting the building of this mosque and others.

Mostly Rtards like yerself.

Fools who have allowed themselves to played like a fiddle by the progandistic and cynical RW media.

Could you be mistaking them for people who are exposing phony "moderate" Muslims as real haters of America?

Understanding that America's support of Bin Ladin, the Taliban, Israel, Saddam Hussein, the Shah of Iran, the House of Saud, the whackjobs in Egypt etc etc and military adventurism played a role in the 9/11 tragedy does not equal Hate of America.

Not understanding that equals a Hater of Truth.

Is that wot you are, Eddie?

Be Well.

"to be played", that oughta been.

Be Well.

#103 | Posted by rcade

Besides, the only Muslim haters that I know are Iranian ex-patriots who are Zoroastrian or non-practicing Muslims who grew up in Muslim run schools.

I love Muslims. There are some Muslims in my family that I would give my life for. I don't "hate" Muslims. I fear the religion for obvious reasons.

Not understanding that equals a Hater of Truth.

#110 | Posted by dethspud

Yet you ignore the truth I laid out for you.

How is that not hypocritical?

Spud, my pointed head friend, read!!!!

The people protesting are not Muslim haters!

AGAIN!!! The left in this country are calling them that for political gain!!

The

The question is loyalty. Can one who pledges alliegence to the U.S. be a muslim? Especially where sharia is the law of the faith!

Does lyig under oath mean anything any more?

It shold!

Wanna guess what religion faces the most opposition to building places of worship? You'll find that Islam is WAY down on that list, in spite of Islam's propensity to build on sites that they have conquered by force.

So before you all go whining "raaaaaacist" like a bunch of schoolgirls, could you please present ONE person that is against building this mosque simply because it is an Islamic place of worship. But the stupid will always present these straw-man arguments in order to marginalize others.

The people protesting are not Muslim haters!

Not all of them but a distressingly large number certainly are.

What other reason could they have for opposing these people's first amendment rights?

AGAIN!!! The left in this country are calling them that for political gain!!

The right have taken a small non story and blown it all out of proportion specifically to do political damage to Obama and you are actually dumb enough to try to assert that this is a left wing political machination?

Wow, there's regular ignorance, there's willful ignorance and then there's THAT.

Can one who pledges alliegence to the U.S. be a muslim?

Shades of Kennedy's Catholicism conundrum.

Be Well.

"The people protesting are not Muslim haters!"

Oh come on...of course some are! If you truly believe what you posted, you are lying to yourself.

I protest not because I hate them, but because of their real agenda.

Jeff J. nailed it on a different thread a week or so ago. And it was not based on hate but logic and reason, which I agree with wholeheartedly.

What other reason could they have for opposing these people's first amendment rights?

The First Amendment in the way that you're referencing says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

People protesting a mosque going up so close to Ground Zero has precisely dick to do with Congress making a law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

You literally have no fucking clue what you are talking about and are possibly mildly retarded.

However, Spudfuck, Nancy Pelosi calling for congressional hearings to investigate the protesters certainly could fall under this part of the first amendment: " or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

How about this, you worry about Canada and we'll worry about America since you clearly don't have a fucking clue.

People protesting a mosque going up so close to Ground Zero has precisely dick to do with Congress making a law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

One more time, Wob.

The Muslim group have their first amendment right to put up the community center with a prayer room.

RW media have their first amendment right to make this into a BFD.

Protesters have their first amendment right to make asses of themselves.

And Spud has the right to free speech as well which he then uses to point out that this anti-mosque hysteria that people have been whipped into feeds into the narrative of radical Islam and dis-empowers moderate Islam.

However, Spudfuck, Nancy Pelosi calling for congressional hearings to investigate the protesters certainly could fall under this part of the first amendment: " or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Glad you brought that up.

Nancy P wants to follow the money trail behind the protests because she suspects as does Spud that it'll lead back to the same group of regressive anti-American cowardly sacks of shiat on the right who have managed to manufacture outrages like this on a regular basis in a cynical bid to regain political power.

The GOP have used dirty tricks and smear campaigns and divisive wedge issues like this again and again and again and the Dems have NEVER called them on it properly.

If the Dems do not stand and fight this time then they deserve to lose more seats than is usual in a post election mid term.

Wot do you get if you boil this all "controversy" down?

Most people believe in these guys right to build a mosque in America.

Most people believe that their choice of location leaves a lot to be desired.

K?

Now can we get back to some real issues?

Be Well.

Real issues? Like Fred Phelps? Faith Healers? Fundamentalists? Mormons? Jehovah Witness? Catholic Church?
Point being every country/religion has its highs and lows. Nobody really wants to claim the bad, only the good. If we are to take Islam as sacred as our own values, then let them build a cultural center wherever they want. If not, protest the building of American military bases at strategic locations the way you do this mosque.

"The question is loyalty. Can one who pledges alliegence to the U.S. be a muslim?"

Can one believe the Old Testatment to be the Word of God and still pledge allegiance to the US?

Lol

Rob, we're upset at the right's protesting the 1st Amendment.

You have to see the irony of this statement?

Good point, DOC. We are Christians, first... above nation. Our allegiance is to Him, though from a practical day-to-day standpoint He implores us to follow the laws of the government as long as they aren't in conflict with him. ("Render unto Ceasar, etc")

This man-crush you have is creepy.
#106 | Posted by Eddie

There's no crush and you're no man, Eddie.

I realize you're trying to sound like 101 Chairborne (who's administered innumerable ass kickings to you here), but that mincing swagger, Tiny Tim contralto-tremolo, and the those BB pellets you're hoiking around -- hold on, kiddo, you just dropped one -- don't impress.

Try again, later, after your voice changes, cupcake.

#125 | Posted by OohRah

What got me on that was that in the post I was replying to there was a reference to Sharia law. The law in the Old Testament is cerainly different than the one we follow here in the US.

I doubt you'll disagree Oohrah -- you're a reasonable sort of person -- that it would help if the decibel level was considerably lowered.

We haven't exchanged messages here for a while, so I'll say I hope your son's okay, the home situation good, and yourself well.

Question;
Do any of you right wingers have the balls to actually answer the question? How far from ground zero is far enough? Spare us the spin. Spare us the bullshit. Answer the question.
If you don't answer it, you're nothing but a bunch of punks.

Ten cubits from the one rim to the other and a line of thirty cubits to compass it round about.
~ The Freedom For Our Religon Coalition

Bob's out of the Marines. He's living here for a few months and taking classes. Then plans to move to Hawaii with his fiance to open a bed and breakfast on Maui. He wants to study carpentry, electrical, etc... to work on the B&B and have his own handyman business.

To an earlier question about 'how far' from Ground Zero... my thought is that it should be several blocks from where any desruction took place. Ground Zero is more than just the Twin Towers. Other buildings were damaged and destroyed.

Frankly, I don't want ANY church built there.

I strongly disagree with folks who want the Mosque there. Yes, there IS a Mosque going up (it's not some benign "community center") It's not a "prayer room." It's a Mosque. And also, the building locale was impacted during 9/11.

Just like it would be insensitive to build a Japanese cultural center at Pearl Harbor, this project is the wrong place, wrong time.

I think the eventual outcome will be for the city to buy the land and work out some sort of (bride) inducement to locate the Mosque/community center/prayer room somewhere else.

" It's a Mosque. "

Horse shit.

Frankly, I don't want ANY church built there. -- #130 | Posted by OohRah

From now on every decision in this country should be looked upon from a legal/constitutional stand point only. No more should we be bothered with trivial things such as respecting our neighbors sensitivities.

If the KKK wants to march through Skokie Illinois (Jewish Community) every liberal on the planet should be in favor of them to do so after all it is there "right".

If the National Guard wants to start pinning medals on solders at Kent State....well why the hell not.

If skin heads wish to purchase the Lorraine Motel (Dr King Assassination Location) and turn it into a skin head museum championing hate. Well let em run with it....after all it is their legal right.

Respect, decency and sensitivity to fellow Americans is no longer an issue....let the divisiveness began - Barack H. Obama

PS Fuck Americans; I never liked this county anyway ever since I moved here from Kenya -Barack H. Obama

If the KKK wants to march through Skokie Illinois (Jewish Community) every liberal on the planet should be in favor of them to do so after all it is there "right".

Here:

Doc,

If you tell him the attorney who represented the KKK was a Jew, his head might explode. Best keep that part to yourself.

No more should we be bothered with trivial things such as respecting our neighbors sensitivities. -- #133 | Posted by Dirk

?? (A) Some of your neighbors are Muslim, and (B) they actually live and work in the area, and you don't.

#135 | Posted by kanrei

I am well aware of the issue and who represented who.

I also remember many on the left and right going absolutely insane over the issue given the fact that there were still Holocaust survivors living in the community at the time....and rightly so!

#138 | Posted by Phoenix

Flag: The King of irrelevant points!

"The people protesting are not Muslim haters!"

Not all of them but a distressingly large number certainly are.

#116 | Posted by dethspud

None of them are unless you can prove that at least one of them are.

Hey Phoenix China is in Asia and I like eating ice cream on Sundays.

" It's a Mosque. "

Horse shit.

#131 | Posted by Zatoichi at

It's horse shit? I didn't know you could do that!

And as Skokie showed, rights weigh more than feelings.

None of them are unless you can prove that at least one of them are.

Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 10:24 AM |

Just one? That is easy. Would you like to amend?

There's no crush and you're no man, Eddie.

#126 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Then don't seek me out, don't answer my posts, don't stalk me, don't write long passionate posts to ridicule me....

OK?

GD, what? Are you a complete idiot?

None of them are unless you can prove that at least one of them are.

Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 10:24 AM |

Just one? That is easy. Would you like to amend?

#144 | Posted by kanrei

Can you name just one? LOL, I didn't think so.

#138 | Posted by Phoenix: ...irrelevant... -- #139 | Posted by Dirk

Opponents of the community center cite respect for 9/11 victims. Seems to me that help for the people who tried to save their lives is a lot more relevant to 9/11 victims than a community center for people with the same religious affiliation as Muhammed Ali, Dave Chappelle, Shaq, Jermaine Jackson, Art Blakey, etc. etc.

1. Jonah Goldberg

Shall I go on?

2. Micahel Savage

3. Rush Limbaugh

4. Sean Hannity

5. the ADL

#149 | Posted by kanrei at 2010-08-25 10:32 AM

These people are protesting in front of the Mosque?

They are trying to shut it down?

No.

Keep trying.

OK?
#145 | Posted by Eddie

No, Haskell, not "OK." Sorry, kiddiwinks, but no amount of beggging and pleading on your part's gonna keep me from mocking you when and as I please. Consider part of the process of making up for the education you lack.

These people are protesting in front of the Mosque?

MOving Goal Posts Again Eddie?

The people protesting are not Muslim haters!"

Not all of them but a distressingly large number certainly are.

#116 | Posted by dethspud

None of them are unless you can prove that at least one of them are.

#140 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 10:24 AM

See, no mention of location here. Just people protesting the Mosque.

Anyway my point is that "if" we are to get along there needs to be sensitivity to highly emotional issues. This does not mean we pander to every political correct issue that comes up, it simply means that when there are highly emotional issues where deaths have occurred there needs to be an awareness and a respect for the feelings of others.

We all are either promoting hostility towards each other or we are promoting peace and understanding. This individual that is pushing for this Mosque is promoting division and his affront should not be rewarded. He should be condemned by all Muslims that support peace.

"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors." Koran Chapter 2, Verse 190:

Kanrei,

[Machael] Savage is way over the top on a lot of things but he does not hate Muslims.

He, like me, does not hate Muslims. He fears them and rightly so.

Fear is not hate.

I'm just pointing out that when you try to label a group as "Haters", it's Hate speech.

Sorry to use one of your own clubs to set you straight.

MOving Goal Posts Again Eddie?

"This individual that is pushing for this Mosque is promoting division "

Strange; when Dubya hired him he was pushing understanding.

Sorry to use one of your own clubs to set you straight

You haven't. You can't. The crooked cannot set anyone straight Eddie.

"He fears them and rightly so."

You should have put the period after 'them'.

What's more, if this Imam was a "moderate" Muslim who was here to spread the word that Islam is a good religion, then why does he hate America by repeating lies? Why doesn't he back down?

If Islam is a good religion and people shouldn't fear it, then they need a new ambassador. Rauf is terrible!

There's got to be someone "moderate" who can represent Muslims in this country.

Actually, I know over 100 who could do the job very nicely. They are citizens of this country, they LOVE this country and most of them are practicing Muslims.

Fear is not hate.

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.- Master Yoda

"These people are protesting in front of the Mosque? "

MOving Goal Posts Again Eddie?

#152 | Posted by kanrei

Nope. Spud was saying that the people protesting in front of the Mosque hate Muslims.

No goal posts being moved. Not a deflection either.

Sorry to use one of your own clubs to set you straight

You haven't. You can't. The crooked cannot set anyone straight Eddie.

#157 | Posted by kanrei

Wow! moving the goalposts?

LOL!!!!

no, deflecting...

RUN AWAY!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!!

LOL

Spud was saying that the people protesting in front of the Mosque hate Muslims.

No, he didn't Eddie. He never said anything about location. This "in front of the Mosque" is yet another one of your creations to try and change debate midstream.

Kanrei,

Again, sorry to use a lefty club to set you straight.

"...There's glory for you!'

`I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'

`But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.

`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

Wow! moving the goalposts?

LOL!!!!

no, deflecting...

RUN AWAY!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!!

LOL

#162 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 10:47 AM |

No Eddie. It was you declaring some victory. You said "Sorry to use one of your own clubs to set you straight."

I did not deflect and have never run away from you. I laugh too hard to run at all.

RUN AWAY!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!!
#162 | Posted by Eddie

GET A JOB!!!! GET A JOB!!!!!
~ George "Pa" & Agnes "Ma" Haskell

Kanrei,

Again, sorry to use a lefty club to set you straight.

#164 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 10:48 AM

Again Eddie, you haven't. I should be thanking you for the laughs actually. I love threads with you in them because it means I can just relax. I hate posters who actually post facts and legitimate points; I would rather deal with you all day long.

"Spud was saying that the people protesting in front of the Mosque hate Muslims. "

No, he didn't Eddie. He never said anything about location. This "in front of the Mosque" is yet another one of your creations to try and change debate midstream.

#163 | Posted by kanrei

Ah, you're right. He didn't say that, but that's what I thought he said... Anyway, my argument still stands.

Can you name ANYONE who hates Muslims?

Ah, you're right. He didn't say that, but that's what I thought he said... Anyway, my argument still stands.

Can you name ANYONE who hates Muslims?

#169 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 10:51 AM

Wow! Progress of sorts. Eddie admitted he was arguing based on what was said in his head rather than on the page.

can I name anyone who hates Muslims?

See post 148.

Again Eddie, you haven't. I should be thanking you for the laughs actually.
#168 | Posted by kanrei

Nervous, forced laugh, as one would do in frustration?

I love threads with you in them because it means I can just relax. I hate posters who actually post facts and legitimate points;
#168 | Posted by kanrei

LIAR! When I destroy your thought pattern and force you to think of a simple concept of the difference between "fear" and "hate" and how appropriate it is to understand that there is a distinction because of the guy in charge--someone who hates America and non-Muslims.

Have respect for yourself! I am sick you smilingly smart Lefties cowering at the end of an argument because you don't want to admit losing a point but you'd rather bicker and ridicule.

the difference between "fear" and "hate"

Irrational fear is often nothing more than thinly concealed hate.

When I destroy your thought pattern and force you to think of a simple concept of the difference between "fear" and "hate" and how appropriate it is to understand that there is a distinction because of the guy in charge--someone who hates America and non-Muslims.

I'll let you know when it happens. So far, it, like Spud saying "in front of Mosques" is only in your head.

Ah, you're right. He didn't say that, but that's what I thought he said...
Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 10:51 AM

I wonder how many other debates Eddie has had in his head that he thinks was here.

can I name anyone who hates Muslims?

See post 148.

#170 | Posted by kanrei

Again, they don't hate Muslims. They fear the religion.

Rauf is supposed to be show that Islam is a peaceful religion.

He's doing a piss poor job of that.

Rauf is providing proof for the people that you listed.

All Rauf needs to do is to show that he deos not hate America.

It would help a great deal if he moved the location of the Mosque

Don't you think that would help?

Ah, you're right. He didn't say that, but that's what I thought he said...
Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 10:51 AM

I wonder how many other debates Eddie has had in his head that he thinks was here.

#174 | Posted by kanrei

This is where the bickering begins.

I've won the argument, but now you will bicker with me about the progression of the debate thinking that you won the argument on a sliver of a capitulation of a minor point.

Did I do this on purpose or is this a surprise bonus to make fun of the Duckie?

LOL!!!

Kanrei,

Just so that your bickering won't cloud your defeat,

Name one person who hates Muslim people.

I've won the argument

Whatever gets you through the night Eddie. You have not, but so be it. I have named people who HATE muslims and you have yet to refute it other than to say "no, they don't." Nice back up there Eddie. No wonder you think you won.

Name one person who hates Muslim people.

#177 | Posted by Eddie at 2010-08-25 11:12 AM |

See post 148.

Round and round

This is Eddie's version of spin. Ask the same question over and over, ignore the answers, and then, when the person is tired of typing the same thing over and over again, he declares victory.

You don't lose very gracefully do you.

You keep pointing back to #148.

I've already crushed that one.

You want to try again?

This "Muslim Wife" Eddie claims to have is probably in his head too. If he were really married to a Muslim, had really converted to Islam, and really had members of his family who were Muslim, he would understand the faith rather than quote propaganda and lies about it.

I am done responding to Eddie from now on.

I wonder how many other debates Eddie has had in his head that he thinks was here.
#174 | Posted by kanrei

Scene: Inside Eddie's head. It's dark but damp, overheated, high humidity like that coming off a steaming pile of too long neglected compost. You shine a flashlight around and realize you're inside an ovoid, like the interior of one of those weird eggs in "Alien." Then, the whispers start. They are incessant, words running together, sentences jumbled, a cacaphony of mindlessness...

Voice: It is
Voice: It isn't
Voice: 'Tis
Voice: 'Tisn't
Voice: Am
Voice: Ain't
Voice: Up
Voice: Down
Voice: It is
Voice: It isn't
Voice: 'Tis
Voice: 'Tisn't
Voice: Am
Voice: Ain't
Voice: Up
Voice: Down

Then, in the gloaming that penetrates the egg, you see the way to release. Just up ahead, just there! Yes, the goalposts. But...but...they keep...moving...

I've already crushed that one

In your head you have.

Jonah Greenberg hates Muslims, but you keep ignoring my 148 and skipping to 149 and only addressed Michael Savage and you were wrong about that.

No Eddie, you have not refuted shit. Last response.

Here's a hint, Kanrei.

Since you are SOOO big on links and "the truth"

Then link to someone protesting the Mosque who said that they hate Muslims.

Distrust and fear are not hate. They are healthy emotions to have especially in this case.

Again, I reference Imam Rauf, who mission is to promote peace and understanding of the Islamic Religion and calls himself a "moderate" Muslim. Yet he is not trustworthy nor is he moderate.

Name one person who hates Muslim people.

You, for starters. But let's move beyond inconsequential twat blisters who babble incoherently on the retort.

Zombie,

Don't bother responding to Eddie as he doesn't read what you wrote. He only reads what he wishes you wrote and responds to that. When you answer, he ignores it and asks again and again until you leave and then he thinks he won something.

Jonah Greenberg hates Muslims, but you keep ignoring my 148 and skipping to 149 and only addressed Michael Savage and you were wrong about that.

No Eddie, you have not refuted shit. Last response.

#183 | Posted by kanrei

Ok, I know nothing of Greenberg... Link to something that makes you believe he hates Muslims.

I have heard Michael Savage on Islam and he, like me, fears the religion and the influence it has over people. I don't know his involvement, but I do know mine and I can speak from experience.

Fear is the word, here. Understanding the meaning is the key to this argument.

Then you can understand the absurdity of this Imam trying to force his point onto us.

It's insulting. What's more insulting is that the Left in this country are ignorantly calling me and other people on the right blind "haters". Understanding and knowledge are the key to this argument.

And that's just what I could think of in two minutes.

#185 | Posted by ZombieHunter

Are you even reading?

When are one of the ignorant on this thread going to wise up and understand the difference between people and an idea?

Zombie you linked to an anti-Islamic rally!

I asked you to link to something that proved that someone hates Muslim people.

This might help you with the understanding a little.

Do you hold ALL Germans responsible for the sins of the Nazis?

Zombie you linked to an anti-Islamic rally!

I asked you to link to something that proved that someone hates Muslim people.

Few things prove that you hate muslims more than taking time out of your day to attend an anti-Islamic rally.

Tell me, eddie... how did you come to be this motherfucking stupid?

I am done responding to Eddie from now on.

Posted by kanrei at 2010-08-25 11:18 AM

No you're not. Eddie's like a drug and none of you can stay away. LOL

He only reads what he wishes you wrote and responds to that. When you answer, he ignores it and asks again and again until you leave and then he thinks he won something.

#186 | Posted by kanrei

You can't handle losing so quickly can you? I've read what you wrote and shot it down and asked you to prove it with a simple link.

You can't support what you write with links and truth (like you want others to do) and then go on and on about someone going on and on...

LOL

just go back and prove me wrong. Start with Greenberg.

If he says that he hates Muslim people, then you've name ONE outspoken "person" who hates Muslims. I don't know the guy and he's hardly mainstream.

But, for the rest of your list...

I've already answered you, unless you want to link to something they've said to.

Chris,
I believe I can. I have successfully ignored other posters here, but Eddie is a special case: he is so stupid he is actually funny.

No you're not. Eddie's like a drug and none of you can stay away. LOL
#190 | Posted by CalifChris

LOL! I'm a drug... Thanks... (I think)

Still wondering:
Why don't any of you right wingers answer the question? How far from ground zero is far enough away to build a mosque?
I guess you're all waiting for Limbaugh to tell you what your opinion is. Sheep.

but Eddie is a special case

I'm sure that's what the doctors said... shortly before they referred his mother to an abortion clinic.

I believe I can. I have successfully ignored other posters here, but Eddie is a special case: he is so stupid he is actually funny.

#192 | Posted by kanrei

Let's see. I make you think to the point where you doubt yourself and then THAT's when I become stupid...

See, this is REALLY FUNNY!

I make you think to the point where you doubt yourself

How can I ignore that? I won't respond to him anymore, but I have to keep mocking him: it is too much fun to quit.

but Eddie is a special case: he is so stupid he is actually funny.
#192 | Posted by kanrei

Blah, gurgle, blah, glomp
#196 | Posted by Eddie a.k.a. Special Eddie

Let's see. I make you think to the point where you doubt yourself and then THAT's when I become stupid...
#196 | Posted by Eddie

No, Special Eddie, you're straight-off-the-teat stupid.

Still wondering:
Why don't any of you right wingers answer the question? How far from ground zero is far enough away to build a mosque?
I guess you're all waiting for Limbaugh to tell you what your opinion is. Sheep.

#194 | Posted by igmoramus

A mile?

A mile away would satisfy me.

But, I don't want to see them move the Mosque as much as I'd like to see this guy resign his position and apologize for insulting our nation.

#199 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Your stalking proves my point...

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You could just say nothing and no one would ever know....

Most people believe that their choice of location leaves a lot to be desired.

#121 | Posted by dethspud at 2010-08-24 10:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Most people disagree because they do not live in the American colony of Canada.

K?

You could just say nothing and no one would ever know.
#201 | Posted by Eddie
The Half-Witted Wisdom of Special Eddie

I believe that entry is found between "When you've never walked a mile you'll never know what it is to walk a mile" and "We could be birds but we don't have wings so we aren't."

""Along with worries over increased traffic on a road he says is already too dangerous, Fisher says the Center's plans to one day have a cemetery could generate soil and water contamination. Ayash says that while one member of the Center is already buried on the property, without a coffin, "in accord with Islamic custom,""

If you are worried about the saftey of local roads, you hate Muslims.

And if you don't want to fucking drink them, you hate Musilms.

Sincerely,

More than half the posters on this thread

#204 Sully

Nobody's mentioned that shit in their protesting of the community center here. The opposition began as a result of xenophobia and hatred, and once that was pointed out, the opposers started making up other arguments to hide behind.

"Nobody's mentioned that shit in their protesting of the community center here. The opposition began as a result of xenophobia and hatred, and once that was pointed out, the opposers started making up other arguments to hide behind."

Sure. And then they travelled back in time to block a bible theme park on the similar grounds to lend further cred to their "cover up". LOL.

What makes you think you know this anyway? Do you live in Mufreesboro or are you just making up a scenario that fits your world view?

""Along with worries over increased traffic on a road he says is already too dangerous, Fisher says the Center's plans to one day have a cemetery could generate soil and water contamination...." --
#204 | Posted by Sully

More people who have obviously never been to the neighborhood but don't hesitate to tell those who live there what to do. (A) Subway, bozo. (B) There's already a cemetery a couple blocks from there.

"More people who have obviously never been to the neighborhood but don't hesitate to tell those who live there what to do. (A) Subway, bozo. (B) There's already a cemetery a couple blocks from there."

Actually, I was quoting KBM's post #3 which dispells the myth that this is about the structure being a mosque but about location. The traffic concerns were from locals. The burial concerns were over the fact that the corpses would not be stored in coffins, which is in my post and you chose to ignore.

Despite the fact that the myth of this being about 'hate' was dispelled in post #3, a 200 post circle jerk of knocking down the "they hate Muslims" strawman ensued.

Can't wait to see which one of you fools is going to eat the cracker.

SULLY

Do you live in Murfreesboro?

The traffic concerns were from locals.

I used to live a couple blocks from that old dingy Burlington Coat Factory. Parking is prohibitively expensive, and almost every subway line (not an exaggeration) converges there.

The burial concerns were over the fact that the corpses would not be stored in coffins, which is in my post and you chose to ignore. -- #208 | Posted by Sully

#208 | Posted by Sully
#210 | Posted by Phoenix

Sully, just realized we might be talking past each other. I'm talking about Park51, the proposed community center near Ground Zero. KBM's link is to a discussion about the mosque in Tennessee.

"Sully, just realized we might be talking past each other. I'm talking about Park51, the proposed community center near Ground Zero. KBM's link is to a discussion about the mosque in Tennessee."

I didn't realize that until your last post either.

"Notice that Muslim practices are green; standard Christian burials are anything but."

Greener? Yes. But a decomposing body still contaminates water.

"Do you live in Murfreesboro?"

No. That's why I find the quotes from those involved to be the most reliable source of information as to what is going on.

It is everyone else who is ignoring what they actually said (traffic/public health concerns) in favor of "They hate Muslims". The fact that they also turned away a bible them park for similar reasons lends alot of credibility for their stated reasons for opposing contruction on that site.

Read post #205 for a prime example. If that dude doesn't live in the town and personally know the people involved, he's completely talking out his ass.

But a decomposing body still contaminates water. -- #213 | Posted by Sully

You don't have to permit burial at every Islamic center, any more than you have to permit burial at every church.

But YOU are the one who suggested that Muslim burial practices were environmentally dangerous. In fact, they are much safer than standard Christian burial practices -- no embalming fluid & no casket (some of which are not made from biodegradable materials, and all of which use up resources).

#214 | Posted by Sully

I only live a few miles from there.

BTW, Murfreesboro has a city water system. Ground water has nothing to do with anything. Just another pitiful excuse by the fundies.

Here's a Google map of the proposed site.

What 'traffic problems' are the fundies complaining about? There's nothing on that road to speak of.

Satellite photo of proposed site:

Maybe they are worried about tractor traffic to and from the fields....

LOL SHEEPLESHEPERD

Eddie and Sully. Keep Waving the 9/11 Flag. It is the only thing you got going for you. I want either of you to show proof that 9/11 was due to Islamic racialists in the name of God. Something Real, anything that shows proof 9/11 was committed by Muslims out of spite for the American public in the name of God. One Example. Anything at all that has actual solid substantial proof.

Do it, I dare you. All I have read from you Repubifags is 9/11 this and 9/11 that. I want to vomit on your stupid face.

I want either of you to show proof that 9/11 was due to Islamic racialists in the name of God. -- #221 | Posted by ClownShack

Why? In the name of Christianity, christian wackos kill doctors who perform abortions, and no one is suggesting that it's disrespectful to build churches near hospitals.

Or to keep Catholic churches with pedophile priests open.

Or to keep Catholic churches with pedophile priests open. -- #223 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

I was looking for Stephen Colbert's rant "We don't build schools next to Catholic churches, we don't build ... next to ...," but couldn't find it.

traffic? as a reason not to have a Mosque?
BWA-HA-HA-HA!
There's a 4000-member megachurch near my city. I have never, not ever, heard a request to move the church or to refuse them additional expansion (every other year recently) because of the heavy traffic. And YES, I HAVE lived in Murfreesboro. Concerns about "increased traffic" are bullshit-no more a concern than it would be with any other church.

Also, a kind note to Eddie:
Dude, you write more shit than anybody on DR. I thought there was only one way to write "I am an idiot," but you seem determined to prove you can write every variation on the phrase, all on this one thread. Congratulate yourself! You have now earned the Goatman Award© for serial posting on one thread! I quit counting at 25 posts, all of them incoherent.

SAM

They have city water at the location, which also happens to hardly be a 'traffic problem', unless, of course, SHEEPLESHEPERD is right about tractor drivers complaining.

Murfreesboro and Rutherford County are just another fundie paradise like Williamson County to the South of Nashville. The fundies protesting have moved the goalposts, but they don't have a point. Bodies in a cemetary will not infiltrate the city water system, nor will building an Islamic Center create traffic problems on a road with nothing else on it.

Satellite photo of proposed site:

You have now earned the Goatman Award© for serial posting on one thread!

#225 | Posted by SamBarber

Goatman was never even close. Nobody will ever touch A_Hole's record.

"Eddie and Sully. Keep Waving the 9/11 Flag. It is the only thing you got going for you."

Where did I mention 9/11 in this thread? Go fist yourself, idiot.

"I want to vomit on your stupid face."

My face is much less stupid than yours, which is almost certainly characterized by mongoloid features. So there.

mongoloid features

Flag: Doesn't Find Asians Attractive

"But YOU are the one who suggested that Muslim burial practices were environmentally dangerous."

All burial practices are potentially environmentally dangerous. Being "more green" than "Christian burials" doesn't mean it has no environmental impact. I don't get why you keep bringing this up as if Muslims decompose differently than every other animal on the planet.

If a civil engineer comes out and says there is no danger of the water system being contanimated then its a moot point in this case but that doesn't mean Muslim burials are safe in all cases.

"Murfreesboro and Rutherford County are just another fundie paradise like Williamson County to the South of Nashville."

Who am I supposed to believe? The stated reasons the people are giving for their actions. Or someone who characterizes the whole county as "fundies"?

I don't know why you'd have any reason to lie but your lack of objectivity is pretty obvious too.

If all these problems are imaginary, why did they block the Bible park? I would think "fundies" would love such a thing.

of course not...the issue though is mosques being built all over the country....with little or no oversight as to where funding comes from or goes and if you dont think there is a possibility that some of them could create terrorist that will kill you and your children for something so simple as badmouthing mohammed then your head is either in the sand or stuck up some part of your anatomy.
ask the people in the mosque in virginnia..the former home of the imam who created the underwear douche and the times square idiot.

[Re: Muslim burial practices:] I don't get why you keep bringing this up... -- #230 | Posted by Sully

To point out how silly the excuses were for opposing either the Tenn. mosque or the NY Islamic Center (which is what we were talking about when you dragged in quotes about the Tennessee Center). Done.

i have a feeling this is special eddie

oops no just click on it...

that was one of the two clowns that were driving erratically around denver during the dnc high on meth with rifles in the truck. they had big plans to assasinate barak obama when he gave his acceptance speech at invesco field.

Who am I supposed to believe? The stated reasons the people are giving for their actions. Or someone who characterizes the whole county as "fundies"?

They moved the goalposts. Their reasons are not borne out by the facts:

- Murfreesboro has a city water/sewer system
- The proposed location is on a road with nothing else on it to speak of, thus no 'traffic problem' (I linked a satellite photo above)

I don't know why you'd have any reason to lie but your lack of objectivity is pretty obvious too

Oh, so you know more about Rutherford County than someone who lives next door? Uh, OK.

on stewart show last night they sent monvi to TENN and talked to opposition head...and SHE knew her stuff and forced him to play the comedy off of a whole different way than they usually do...
but it was still pretty funny stuff...