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And ?

Was it covered? Why does it have to be giant news, it was expected. Bush did set the timeline you know.

"The network spent 45 minutes discussing the potential construction of an Islamic cultural center near ground zero."

Tells you everything you need to know about Faux News and its audience of sheep.

"Baaaaaah Baaaaaah"

EXPRSREDEMPTION

"Was it covered? Why does it have to be giant news, it was expected. Bush did set the timeline you know.

#1 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2010-08-20 11:47 AM"

Kinda funny comments from a guy that post on the other thread about this being false that it was not getting enough attention. Didn't mentiom Bush over there either.

Good Fox News Watcher.

As Danni aptly pointed out:

Baaa! Baaa! - Expsred

Cheeseandrice I messed that post up!! Post=posted and missed an and in there.

3 | Posted by prozacboi at 2010-08-20 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Funny how you show up in this fox news thread (which I don't watch) but you don't participate in the unemployment "surprise" thread.

I just don't see how this is news that needs to be covered 24/7 365, expecially since Barak promised us it was going to happen.

I thought you wanted us to trust him?

Either way. And yes, if I think it is a lie, then it is a non story, they would not cover the fact that the troops left, they would cover the fact that the troops didn't really pull out.

It sounds like there are quite a few people above my post here that watch fox news quite a bit more than I ever would.

You find it funny I show up on a thread/story that I posted???

/backing away slowly....

Slow news day on the Daily Kos? Get real. If they had left it out completely that would be news but 10 minutes of a 60 news program seems reasonable to me.

6 | Posted by ExpsRedemption
I was thinking the same thing. Seems like there is a FOX fascination on the left.

If they had left it out completely that would be news but 10 minutes of a 60 news program seems reasonable to me.

10 minutes in prime time. I think that is considered a 3 hour span.

Just admit it, FoxNews is not interested in anything positive that is happening in this country right now. Don't deny it it makes you look like a fucking idiot.

Just admit it. Why should they focus on positive news when they are in the business of spreading fear and hate right? Just say it. You know it's true.

It was all over Fox on Wed night as well as yesterday... As I was working from home yesterday, it got to the point of a freaking annoyance. Every hour some expose on leaving Iraq, guys dropping bullets into cardboard boxes, interviews with wives/husbands/kids/etc.

I think they mean to say, that Fox didn't have their collective heads rammed far enough up obama's ass for leaving iraq on bushie's schedule.

Tells you everything you need to know about Faux News and its audience of sheep.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2010-08-20 12:26 PM

FUNNY AS HELL Danni you watch the major networks who REFUSED to cover real news about the messiah as part of their political agenda and complain about FOX only covering a story for ten minutes...

VAN JONES is just one example of news that was not covered by liberal networks until AFTER he resigned and then the major networks had to race to get in front of a major news story they purposely tried to cover up...

Try watching Pravda young lady you will be better informed...

Just admit it, FoxNews is not interested in anything positive that is happening in this country right now. Don't deny it it makes you look like a fucking idiot.
#9 | Posted by Manypaths

What positive news do we have to cover? This with draw is premature when there are political problems in Iraq that create instability for the elected government.
Best news I've heard is Barry and company is on vacation. he can only screw things up so much by Blueberry.

Just admit it. Why should they focus on positive news when they are in the business of spreading fear and hate right? Just say it. You know it's true.
#9 | Posted by Manypaths

Whatever floats your little liberal boat.

"Slow news day on the Daily Kos?"

Just your typical bash Fox News and prop up NBC. Although I think the link goes to Huffington, not that it really matters. What they forgot or missed, is that Engle and company said "only" NBC had the exclusive rights to air the last groups leaving. You got to love the shit that ends up as threads here. Of course most of the BS is from the same sources like Huff, Kos, Media Matters.

The Associated Press, Fox News, The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, Al Jazeera and other news media outlets also reported Wednesday evening that the last combat troops were crossing into Kuwait. Only NBC broadcast it live, in asymmetrical image to the invasion that captured the nation's attention on television seven years ago.

Asked how the NBC broadcast constituted "an official Pentagon announcement," Steve Capus, the president of NBC News, said the broadcast was such a declaration because "the announcement that the last Stryker brigade was leaving Iraq had not been made" by the military.

Tells you everything you need to know about Faux News and its audience of sheep.
#2 | Posted by danni at 2010-08-20 12:26 PM

I need to add to post #13...

I gotta love the shit people write on the bs threads that show up here.

"VAN JONES is just one example of news that was not covered by liberal networks until AFTER he resigned and then the major networks had to race to get in front of a major news story they purposely tried to cover up..."

OK, what was Mr. Jones major crime that Faux News made such a fuss over????

as a fox spectator I can tell you..this is total fabrication and bullshit....
but how can I argue with all you smart fucks even though you dont watch yourself...

OK, what was Mr. Jones major crime that Faux News made such a fuss over????

#15 | Posted by danni at 2010-08-20 02:04 PM | Reply

Young Lady if you would have watched FOX NEWS you would not have to ask why he resigned in shame...

ABC ZERO COVERAGE
CBS ZERO COVERAGE
NBC ZERO COVERAGE
CNN ZERO COVERAGE
MSNBC ZERO COVERAGE

Until the day VAN JONES announced his resignation and caught all the MSM viewers Uninformed...

Oreilly had it all over his talking points.

Even though the withdrawl is all Bush's fault.

I don't care if it was Bush's idea, Obama's idea, or my idea, it's complete smoke and mirrors bullshit. Anyone that thinks it's significant either never served or is being intentionally dishonest.

There are still hordes or infantrymen, mechanized weapons companies, fast movers, attack helo's, etc They'll still be engaged in combat. Pretending as if the crossing of the border means that we've left is simply disingenuous.

Every politician will abuse it, but Obama's Admin and their faithful fools take to praising smoke and mirrors and marketing scams to whole new levels. It's been pointed out since day 1 that if obama's people put a pretty bow on it you fools will swoon over it, regardless of the substance.

you fools will swoon over it, regardless of the substance.

#20 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2010-08-20 02:36 PM

They are also attracted to bright lights and anything shinny...

It's been pointed out since day 1 that if obama's people put a pretty bow on it you fools will swoon over it, regardless of the substance.

good grief 101, surely YOU can make that point with a more crude reference.

MSNBC devoted its entire prime-time footprint to the story, with Richard Engel riding with the troops in a specially equipped vehicle and host Rachel Maddow based in Baghdad.

In other words, left-leaning news networks are making a big deal of this to score points for Obama, while right-leaning news networks are minimizing it because they don't want to make Obama look good. I, for one, don't think it's significant, mostly for the reasons posted by 101, so I agree with Fox's level of coverage even though it may have been for the wrong reasons.

But why is the level of coverage newsworthy? Why do libtards have such bug up their ass about Fox News? I think the more newsworthy story is that some dumbass from the AP sat around watching Fox News all day with a stopwatch. Perhaps if these idiots were out asking tough questions to our do-nothing politicians, the media in our country would be worth more than a piece of used toilet paper.

Anyone remember the Mission Accomplished coverage? Fox spent 18 hours covering that one day.

Anyone remember the Mission Accomplished coverage? Fox spent 18 hours covering that one day.

#24 | Posted by Manypaths

How could we forget, Northgay (amongst others) still can't stop talking about Bush's bulge.

Richard Engel...Only a matter of time before he and Anderson Cooper become fuck buddies.

Anyone remember the Mission Accomplished coverage? Fox spent 18 hours covering that one day.

#24 | Posted by Manypaths at 2010

would you like to add up the time since THEN that the lame streams have talked about it? surely it has to equal or surpass 18 hours.

Richard Engel...Only a matter of time before he and Anderson Cooper become fuck buddies.

#26 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2010-08-20 03:06 PM

I would bet no woman on any of the cable news outlets would want to be Maddow's fuck buddy. Was she born a man, became a woman, and still thinks she is a man?

I don't know this Maddow character you speak of? What time is she on? Before Olbermann? After the guy after Olberman? Before Chris matthews?
Come to think of it, MSNBC isn't very diverse. 3 white men hosting shows in the prime viewing slots.

3 white men hosting shows in the prime viewing slots.

#29 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2010-08-20 03:18 PM

Thought you didn't know who Maddow was.

I don't know this Maddow character you speak of? What time is she on? Before Olbermann? After the guy after Olberman? Before Chris matthews?
Come to think of it, MSNBC isn't very diverse. 3 white men hosting shows in the prime viewing slots.

MSNBC doesn't have to be diverse because they care about the poor and support the liberal utopia. It's only those right wing racist, hate mongering capitalists who have to be diverse.

I don't care if it was Bush's idea, Obama's idea, or my idea, it's complete smoke and mirrors bullshit. Anyone that thinks it's significant either never served or is being intentionally dishonest.

Actually I agree with you. We're still in Germany from WWII and still in Korea from the Korean war. We're not leaving Iraq anytime soon.

You folks miss the big story here. The big story here is that the people over at Huffington Post watch Fox News.

Anyone remember the Mission Accomplished coverage? Fox spent 18 hours covering that one day.

#24 | Posted by Manypaths

I checked them out. All "Muslim" all the time.

Perhaps they don't want to remind their viewers we blew 2 trillion dollars, lost 4400 American lives, and suffered 30,000 casualties in Iraq ....

needlessly

"Anyone remember the Mission Accomplished coverage? Fox spent 18 hours covering that one day."
#24 | Posted by Manypaths

You're kidding, right? MSNBC has spent years covering it...but not really covering it...just repeating the lies....every night for years on Olbermann.

"The big story here is that the people over at Huffington Post watch Fox News."
#33 | Posted by mysterytoy

So does Danni. And she listens to Limbaugh too.

When Fox covered the so called withdrawal for under 10 minutes they left out the spin at what a great victory this is for the Obama administration. That alone added 20 minutes to the Democrat run Media's stories.

What a bullshit story.

Fox was all over this story.

They were also at the homecomings of the troops to their families.

HOLY JEEZ - RIGHT OFF THE FOX WEBSITE:

And NOTICE it's dated a day before the Huffy slander article.

Great "journalism" from another arm of the Big-Government propaganda media!

Just another reason to check in with Fox News regularly to get the other side of the story.

"So does Danni. And she listens to Limbaugh too."

Actually I don't listen to liars or watch them on TV, why should I when I can get the condensed talking point version from KBM.

Clue to Lon Seong-The article refers to the Fox News Channel

"God how liberals lie. It's a tradition with them."

Fox posted an AP news story on their web site, that does not constitute Fox covering the story.

Tell me about it when all the troops are out!!!!

dan, they had more than that. They had an "alive broadcast as they crossed out of iraq. Please get your facts straight for once. They didn't do a special on it because it ain't that big of a deal. Call me when the last soldier leaves, if you are still alive that many years from now.

Bush did set the timeline you know.

#1 | POSTED BY EXPSREDEMPTION AT 2010-08-20 11:47 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Actually:
Bush (and Iraqi) timeline: Withdraw from cities √
Bush (and Iraqi) timeline: Withdraw from Iraq end of 2011 TBD
Obama (and Iraqi) timeline: Combat Troops out end of this month √

I did watch the MSNBC coverage that night. It was really quite good. Interviews with our Soldiers, the live broadcast from the back of the Sttyker, the crossing into Kuwait - it sure meant something to our Troops. That was a good night, but not the end by any means.

Speaking of all this, Maddow's interviews with the Military, Soldiers and with Engel have been outstanding. Poke fun at her all you want, but she's in Iraq. She was just in Afghanistan for a week. She's doing good reporting and putting herself out there.

AssgasHUFFPO:

You vill poast vat I tell you!

I watched Sheppard Smith cover it. I have to call Bullshit on HuffPo.

So we withdrew 2/3 of our troops, that means there is still 50,000 Troops in Iraq. I thought it was the goal of the left to withdraw all of our forces. Yeaaa we have a partial withdraw lets celebrate!!!

I watched Sheppard Smith cover it. I have to call Bullshit on HuffPo.

#48 | Posted by bph320 at 2010-08-21 04:23 PM | Reply | Flag: Didn't read the article or this page.

This is hillarious. The "BIG" news is that the last combat troops left Iraq is BS. The only thing has changed is the that the "Official" mission has went from a combat to an advisor role. There are still 50,000 US troops throughout Iraq. There are still Brigade Combat Teams in Iraq. I should know, I am in of them now. The mission changed to advising, but the US troops still go on patrols, are still exposed to hostile activities, including IED, IDF, other hostile acts. What everyone saw on TV was a political PR mission to try and boost Obama's ratings. US Troops are still being sent over to replace troops who are leaving at the end of their tour. I'm guessing FOX didn't put more time into it, because they knew it wasn't as big a deal as the liberal media and Obama's team wants to make it out to be. The withdrawal will be big news when the last of the 50,000 that are still here get to go home.

#1 | POSTED BY EXPSREDEMPTION AT 2010-08-20 11:47 AM | REPLY | FLAG: Invertebrate

The biggest problem of all is, this was President OBAMA keeping George Bush's word in removing our troops.

This was agreed to, between Iraq and the United States, when Bush was the President and no amount of Spin and In-Depth story telling will make it any different! Also, the removal of the remaining troops by next year is in that same document!

Also, as QCGURU states, it ain't no big deal! Nothing much has changed, there's still 55K of our troops in the field, in some level of harms way, subject to POLITICAL whim and fancy.

Also this should show the MUSLIM world that the United States, contrary to some people's vocal abilities and rants, does not OCCUPY foreign territory as some would like the world to believe!

We ALWAYS leave, for better or worse, we leave!

I know people are blasting Fox but does anyone ever read?

EXS:
And ?

Was it covered? Why does it have to be giant news, it was expected. Bush did set the timeline you know.

and fucking typical. even as i was anti this illegimate invasion and believe everyone who signed up for it is guilty, this is STILL an American Combat Troop withdrawal after 7? years and 4400+ dead./
and THAT is all YOU have to say? and you do so simply to defend Fox? Screw you, asshole.

yeah, it HAS to be GIANT news, got that?

Palin and FauxNews are no-brainer targets.

No brains. Easily disproved.

"Typical Lee Atwater/Karl Rove tactics: demonize, polarize, and destroy."

FTFY.

I was flipping between major cable news stations as the final troops crossed the Kuwaiti border.

FauxNews was the only one not covering it. MOSQUE MOSQUE MUSLIM MUSLIM!! is what FauxNews was rambling about.

No brains. Easily disproved.

#56 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2010-08-21 06:33 PM

That's the pot calling the kettle black.

T MAN

Your 'sources' didn't get the memo the combat mission ended early?

10 minutes of a 60 news program seems reasonable to me.
6 | Posted by ExpsRedemption
I was thinking the same thing.

if it's true that theother 50 minutes were BS crap stories (i hear it was all about some stupid mosque)... well, frankly, for ONE FUCKING DAY 60 minutes isn't even much on something SO meaningful.

you two are pair baked asshats who desrve all the shit the world can dish your way. i'm certainly done with reading or responding, as little as i did, to you two right-wing jerks.

oops, that's:
10 minutes of a 60 news program seems reasonable to me.
6 | Posted by ExpsRedemption
I was thinking the same thing. Paneocan

it's important.

Richard Engel's live coverage on MSNBC was great.

Maddow's reports from Baghdad great as well.

FauxNews: "Snicker, smirk, Muslim! Mosque!"

#59 | Posted by T_Man

That's supposed to be a 'retort'?

Typical right wing bullshit. Can't disprove an assertion, so it's name calling.

Grow up. If possible.

Let me spell it out for you, T MAN:

All combat forces out, combat mission ended early.

#20 is spot on.

BTW - who is this NEW 101? Did the old cantankerous one fall down and bump his head?

When the liberal media can't find positive news on Obummer or negative republican news, they bash FOX for something assinine.

P.S. Mission Accomplished was just that. The mission to overtake Baghdad was accomplished and the next mission, to secure the country, began. So now Berry gets to wave that banner, thanks to Bush.

AU.. Like I said, don't you read? The combat mission will officially end on August 31. There are plenty of "sources" that say so. Unless your sources come directly from the Pentagon

The combat mission is over. Period.

AU.. You call that name calling? LMAO.. Dude, toughen up. It'll be ok.

You attack Palin and Fox News and I say that's the pot calling the kettle black and you tell me that I'm name calling you? HAHAHAHAHA.. I called you a pot! LMAO..

The combat mission is over. Period.

#68 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2010-08-21 06:50 PM

It's ok, I know that you have a tough time with actual facts. I never said that combat troops weren't pulled out, I simply quoted an article which was dead on correct.

No combat forces = no combat.

That isn't difficult.

You attack Palin and Fox News and I say that's the pot calling the kettle black and you tell me that I'm name calling you? HAHAHAHAHA.. I called you a pot! LMAO..

Except my facts are well, factual. Palin and FauxNews aren't.

AU.. It's ok, really. You were wrong to call out the "sources" I used but use your logic however you like to try to prove yourself right if it helps you sleep at night. I really don't care.

T MAN

I sleep great, thanks.

No combat forces = no combat mission. Simple.

I have four SF buddies still in Iraq, in three different units.

In the event we have further casualties in Iraq, I wonder how much time CNN will devote to the subject?

For that matter, where did all the DR roll-calls-for-the-dead go? Those used to be a fairly permanent feature around here until . . . hmmm . . . a couple of years ago? What a coincidence.

No combat forces = no combat.

That isn't difficult.

#71 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2010-08-21 06:54 PM

So they pull out 14,000 troops but leave 50,000 troops as support for the Iraq forces? Did they leave them any weapons since they are not allowed to combat any Iraq enemies? I can't believe the Obama would leave them without weapons to defend themselves but as AU pointed out, they is no combat left in Iraq since there are no combat forces.

msnbc? Well their parent company was bailed out by obama... They have to make him look good... Now GE will get some more money...

There are 50,000 troops staying in Iraq.. 90,000 civilian contractors too... Also "combat troops"

The surge must have worked I guess.... Good Job Barry... Oh... I Mean George!

RE: #51 | Posted by QCGuru at 2010-08-21 04:56 PM

You raise valid points and, of course, there's no denying that we aren't officially/completely "out" of Iraq. One could draw an analogy by saying were not officially/completely "out" of Europe or Japan after WW-II either or that the US involvement in the Vietnam War started in the early 1950's when we sent in 'advisors', but that's a topic for another thread.

More on this thread's topic: the point being raised is that Fox News did not give anywhere near the same coverage to this event as it did for the "Mission Accomplished" staged event and I'd argue for MUCH LESS reason.

So, which way do you want to spin the historical record: "Mission Accomplished" and this event were non-events or they were both significant events?

FWIW, the "liberal media" extensively covered the "Mission Accomplished" event, too. So, tell us all again about "fair and balanced"...

i think some of you ppl don't understand militrary designations and defintions. why don't you join up and find out. i'll tell ya this in advance though, in case you may be wonderin: you WILL learn how to maintain and fire a weapon, that skill WILL be maintained... no matter WHAT your MOS or WHERE you're stationed.

... correction: i can't speak foe the pussies in the Navy or the Air Force.

foe = for... dumbass.

Was it covered? Why does it have to be giant news, it was expected. Bush did set the timeline you know.

#1 | Posted by ExpsRedemption at 2010-08-20 11:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

YEAH!!

Let's thank Bush for that trillion dollar adventure in the sand box!!

Isn't this the same man who said that Iraq would have to left to 'future presidents'?

Heckuva job BuSHIT!

Let me spell it out for you, T MAN:

All combat forces out, combat mission ended early.

#65 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Spell it out for me. Does that mean no more US deaths there? Does that mean that that the troops that are left are armed with peace symbols? Please spell it out for me what it means!!

Ichiro, I suppose my hat is off, O' world wise and battle hardenned one. Being a recently retired blue suiter I must deffer to your manliness and accept my (and all my fellow zoomies) title of pussy. Lord knows none of us ever heard a shot fired in anger anywhere, you know, like D. Storm I, Mogadishu, Bosnia, C/S American counter narc, Haiti, OIF/OEF or any of the "Ikstans" you may or may not have even heard of.

Your remarks mark you as a 1st/2d tour PFC trying to act bad son. Jus cause Ol' Sarge tells you you're a killah don't mean you got a patent on the sport. Oh yeah... you da man...

One biased news media complaining about the bias of another? Seriously?

Gee, Fox certainly didn't ignore Iraq when they were pushing for the war.

Where are the cheerleaders now?

Huffington Post has it's own page for Obama.

Sorry but for them to complain about another media's news coverage is ridiculous.

#89 | Posted by Pirate at 2010-08-22 11:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dude. HuffingtonPost is a website. When they are the biggest cable NEWS outlet then you might have a point.

Dude, media is media. Biased media is no less biased based on number of viewers.

Combat brigades in Iraq under different name
www.armytimes.com

#88 | Posted by rightisright at 2010-08-22 11:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why don't you go over and sign up, cheerleader.

Dude, media is media. Biased media is no less biased based on number of viewers.

#91 | Posted by Pirate at 2010-08-23 12:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Right. CNN is just like you.

In those five years, the site has gone from a tiny blog featuring posts from famous friends of founders Arianna Huffington and Ken Lerer to one of the largest independent news sites in the world.

rightisRight-
You were all for this war, and pushed for it hard, along with FoxNews, and now you have the gall to bitch about the length of the withdrawal?

Despicable.

Pirate-
And do you not remember how hard Fox pushed this war?

Were you too young to have a TV in your room, or are you just forgetful?

You're right. I pushed for it real hard, this war. I met with Clinton several times, but I could only convince him to do the no-fly zones and a naval blockade. But when I met with Bush's generals, I knew I had a better chance.

I don't watch Fox News and never have. They're biased. So is HuffPo.

Like Huffington Post readers need one more reason not to watch Fox News. This is laughable.

RightisRight-
re: You're right. I pushed for it real hard, this war.

Yes, you did. And now you, like FoxNews, want to pretend that you had nothing to do with it.

Did anyone here get a chance to see the Fox News 12 Hour Ground Zero Mosque marathon on today?

Why don't you go over and sign up, cheerleader.

Why don't you shut the fuck up and acknowledge that we haven't "pulled out of Iraq", and that combat personnel are still dying over there---as is evidenced by the story he linked to?

You're jumping up and down and hyperventilating like you've just been made privy to some grand revelation that somehow validates what a loathsome, unAmerican sack of shit you've been regarding the war in Iraq.

Dude.

Like Huffington Post readers need one more reason not to watch Fox News. This is laughable.

#99 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2010-08-23 12:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

You still listen to Fox, even though they sold you a bill of goods on this war, and they pushed HARD! But now you and FoxNews and RightisRight wish to pretend that none of that happened...

You're jumping up and down and hyperventilating like you've just been made privy to some grand revelation that somehow validates what a loathsome, unAmerican sack of shit you've been regarding the war in Iraq.

Dude.

#102 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2010-08-23 12:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

There we are. This is much like the rhetoric coming from RightisRight and Jak se in the lead up to the Iraq war: "what a loathsome, unAmerican sack of shit" we were to tell you that Bush, and you, were full of shit.

Yes, you did. And now you, like FoxNews, want to pretend that you had nothing to do with it.

#100 | Posted by BetelG
* * * *

I admit I did have something to do with it. I'm Dick Cheney. It was all me.

And the next war that FoxNews, and Jak se, and RightisRight try to sell us, they'll also accuse anyone who calls them on their bullshit of being "unAmerican".

What's most amazing and most clear about all this is that the ones who pushed this war have no shame for the lies they told. They'll do it again, and again and again. And each time they will accuse the opposition of being "unAmerican".

I still listen to Fox News and I have no Idea what they think about his war.

This is much like the rhetoric coming from RightisRight and Jak se

Unlike the rhetoric from Boyd---who pissed himself with glee with every dead American soldier because it helped his political assertion that the war for oil was icky and wrong.

I admit I did have something to do with it. I'm Dick Cheney. It was all me.

#105 | Posted by rightisright at 2010-08-23 12:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

No. You didn't have anything "to do with it"; you, like Jak se, just pushed for it. It's not like you actually fought it; you just pushed for others to do it and called the opposition to your lies "unAmerican".

they'll also accuse anyone who calls them on their bullshit

A little shitstain like yourself hasn't "called" anybody on anything.

Unlike the rhetoric from Boyd---who pissed himself with glee with every dead American soldier because it helped his political assertion that the war for oil was icky and wrong.

#109 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2010-08-23 12:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

As I said: no shame.

It's not like you actually fought it; you just pushed for others to do it

...as opposed to actively undermining those who did...

As I said: no shame.

Exactly.

You sorry ass motherfucker.

I don't know how you shave without puking.

What would you like all the media outlets to do regarding our non-pullout of Iraq, Boyd?

Like, a primetime special?

And to this day they have no shame for selling a pack of lies for others to go and die for. All they have is the smear of "unAmerican", and as one of the chief cheerleaders for the war in Iraq on this blog, Jak se REALLY doesn't want to examine that, so he'll go on with what worked in the past. Over and over, and over again.

For as long as it works.

Boyd?

What's your beef with the FNC coverage?

A hundredth as much attention as they paid getting us into it would be a start.

Sleep well Jak. Let me know when you want another war you won't serve in.

But we're not out of it.

People are still dying there.

Why are you pretending as if some enormous milestone has been achieved?

Why are you not all of the sudden jumping up and down triumphantly because Americans are dying and feeding into your un-American narrative?

But we're not out of it.

People are still dying there.

#121 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2010-08-23 12:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

No shit, dickwad. Not exactly as you predicted when you were selling it with lies, is it?

"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."

In fact, Boyd, the senatorial leader of that despicable amalgam of anti-American scum you identify with as your political party declared that 'the war was lost" back in 2007.

Please explain to me why the FNC should devote hours of programming to the withdrawal of a few brigades of troops.

The war has been lost for 3 years now.

Please explain your reasoning.

Or have you just not fully developed something coherent to bitch, whine, and exhibit a little fake-ass outrage over?

I think you have a problem, Jak. You use this term "un-American" to describe people who told people such as yourself that your reasons for pushing this this war were suspect at best, and most likely lies.

Those people turned out to be right.

Now, you bitch about the fact that we are still in the war that you pushed but never had any intention of serving in.

How about this -- Next time you want to sell a war, I'll ask you a simple question:

Do you believe your words enough to sign up?

And, based on that simple Yes/No answer, you may have a shot and gaining my ear. Until then, you are a posturing, lying, selfish person with an untrustworthy record who hasn't the decency to own up to what you have done.

You use this term "un-American" to describe people...

I use the term "un-American" to describe people like yourself---who are so politically and emotionally invested in American failure that you rejoice when men who are better that you are killed---just because your warped little mind has convinced itself that it validates your knee-jerk opposition to any projection of American power.

You're a loathsome piece of shit---and your whinng about the lack of covereage regarding our non-pullout of Iraq is sickening.

And, based on that simple Yes/No answer, you may have a shot and gaining my ear. Until then, you are a posturing, lying, selfish person with an untrustworthy record who hasn't the decency to own up to what you have done.
* * * * *

He's on to you.

How did someone as dim as Boyd figure out that you're Don Rumsfeld?

I think you have a problem, Jak. You use this term "un-American" to describe people who told people such as yourself that your reasons for pushing this this war were suspect at best, and most likely lies.

Those people turned out to be right.

Now, you bitch about the fact that we are still in the war that you pushed but never had any intention of serving in.

How about this -- Next time you want to sell a war, I'll ask you a simple question:

Do you believe your words enough to sign up?

And, based on that simple Yes/No answer, you may have a shot and gaining my ear. Until then, you are a posturing, lying, selfish person with an untrustworthy record who hasn't the decency to own up to what you have done.

#128 | Posted by BetelG at 2010-08-23 12:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

Do you believe your words enough to sign up?

What a disingenuous sack of shit you are.

If military service is a prerequisite to an opinion on the conduct of a war, you're in the same boat as anyone else here, you fucking douche.

I use the term "un-American" to describe people like yourself---who are so politically and emotionally invested in American failure that you rejoice when men who are better that you are killed-

Why not just say he drinks the blood of babies and be done with it?

Seriously, Mao, if you actually think folk on the left are glad when an American serviceman or woman gets killed then you are one batshiat crazy mutha fucker.

Not that that would come as any great surprise to anyone around here.

Just sayin'.

Be Well.

How did someone as dim as Boyd figure out that you're Don Rumsfeld?

#130 | Posted by rightisright at 2010-08-23 12:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

A decent person would say,"I'm not Rumsfeld, but I pushed for this war and bought all the lies and resold them to you and even called you unAmerican for saying I was full of shit, and for that I apologize. I was wrong".

But you're not a decent person, and you can never be wrong.

I'm all for putting out structure fires in populated areas, too, Boyd.

Do I need to be a firefighter to advocate such a thing?

"Dude"?

If military service is a prerequisite to an opinion on the conduct of a war, you're in the same boat as anyone else here, you fucking douche.

#132 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2010-08-23 12:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's not, but anyone would be a fool to take your word on any future proposed war that you had not signed up for, with proof that you had done so, so worthless are your words.

Well, I always believed that taking Hussein's government down was worth doing. Could have done it without the invasion, and it could have been done without the nation-building effort. Just send in the cruise missiles, and let whoever crawls out from under the rubble to take over the place know that he's being watched too, very carefully.

Should have done the same with Riyadh, by the way. But in my high-level meetings with President Bush, I could never get him to go along with that. He always thought more of those Saudi princes than I ever did.

It's not

Apparently it is.

That seems to be the only fucking ad hominem meme your stupid ass can come up with.

Again, please explain to me why the FNC should devote hours of programming to the withdrawal of a few brigades of troops.

The war has been lost for 3 years now.

Please explain your reasoning.

He always thought more of those Saudi princes than I ever did.

#137 | Posted by rightisright at 2010-08-23 01:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

So does NewsCorp (FoxNews):

* Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud of Saudi Arabia, through his Kingdom Holding Company, owns 7% of News Corp.'s shares, making Kingdom Holdings the second largest shareholder.[20][21][22]

Again, please explain to me why the FNC should devote hours of programming to the withdrawal of a few brigades of troops.

Perhaps because they, like you, devoted thousands of hours of programming to getting them in there.

Later on, blog.

Well, I always believed that taking Hussein's government down was worth doing

Of course it was.

I'm glad we did it.

It's because we decided to stick around and replace it with anything that we suffered our casualties that gave human shit like Boyd a hard-on for dead soldiers and an "I told you so" on the left-wing blogosphere.

Now he wants some deference and reverence for our "pullout".

What a piece of shit.

On a happier note, I'm in a hotel room in Baton Rogue because I'm giving a little seminar at LSU this week. I need a good seafood restaurant, and i know you're familiar with the area.

Where do I go?

Boyd,

The problem with your logic is that it's hypocritical.

You support every wealth-redistribution scheme under the sun as long as YOU don't have to personally pay the tab. You seek to sky-rocket my health-care costs with Obamacare and my energy costs with absurdities like Capntrade just so YOU can feel all good and equitable.

I would make a lousy soldier, so I let those better-trained and better-qualified handle combat. However, if our voluntary forces were insufficient and more bodies were needed, I would serve my country if need be.

"We're in a road movie to Berlin
Can't drive out the way we drove in
So sneak out this glass of bourbon
And we'll go

We were once so close to heaven
Peter came out and gave us medals
Declaring us the nicest of the damned

Time won't find the lost
It'll sweep up our skeleton bones
So take the wheel and I will take the pedals

We're in a road movie to Berlin
Can't drive out the way we drove in
So sneak out this glass of bourbon
And we'll go."

~TMBG

Be Well.

In Baton Rouge, it's Mike Anderson's.

Louisiana is the crummiest place on earth, but they know how to cook. Give 'em that.

I would make a lousy soldier, so I let those better-trained and better-qualified handle combat. However, if our voluntary forces were insufficient and more bodies were needed, I would serve my country if need be.

Posted by JeffJ at 2010-08-23 01:20 AM |

I'm sure you would...

Maybe the next war you push for :)....

On a happier note, I'm in a hotel room in Baton Rogue because I'm giving a little seminar at LSU this week. I need a good seafood restaurant, and i know you're familiar with the area.

Where do I go?

#142 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2010-08-23 01:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

By "I", I'm sure you mean the troops?

(As in "I'm glad we did it.It's because we decided to stick around and replace it with anything that we suffered our casualties...")

Why don't you ask them where to get some shrimp?

Maybe the next war you push for :)....

Maybe the next dead young men whose deaths you rejoice in for political expedience :)...

In Baton Rouge, it's Mike Anderson's

I'll be there man, don't let me down.

On a happier note, I'm in a hotel room in Baton Rogue because I'm giving a little seminar at LSU this week.

Yeah, the war you pushed for and other people died in is such a downer! What's your seminar?

Why don't you ask them where to get some shrimp?

They'll probably say "The Gulf".

That's that place where the "worst environmental disaster in U.S. history" just happened.

If only FNC had spent one one hundredth the time covering our Iraq "pullout" as it did on that.....

Right, "dude"?

So, FNC is like a bunch of macho men: All about the going in, not so much about the pulling out? Go figure.

re: That's that place where the "worst environmental disaster in U.S. history" just happened.

Listen to Rush much? He was as right about the Iraq war as you were, and served in it as much as you did. I'm sure you're both right about this too!

On a happier note, I'm in a hotel room in Baton Rogue because I'm giving a little seminar at LSU this week.

That would be happier for you, and not the "we" you like to use when talking about war.

So, FNC is like a bunch of macho men: All about the going in, not so much about the pulling out?

That's not so much a "macho" problem as it is a problem of dating liberal "men".

I do hope your seminar is on a happier note. War is such a bummer. However, I'm guessing you use the word "I" in your little seminar more than you use the word "we".

That would be happier for you, and not the "we" you like to use when talking about war.

You've just about milked that one, finger-sniffer.

Later on, blog.

#141 | Posted by BetelG at 2010-08-23 01:09 AM

Go away.

Well, I would. But I really like the way you use "I" when talking about your seminar and what nice restaurant you might go to and "we" when talking about a war you pushed for but didn't serve in.

So, where are we eating tonight?

What's your seminar?

Political blogging in the 21st Century. ;-)

Will WE have shrimp scampi or the gumbo?

I think we'd like to try the gumbo, Jak. And we'd like a Sam Adams or a Heineken with that. Yes we would.

Tomorrow, we'd like like the eggs benedict and then we'd like a shower. After our little seminar we'd like a soak in the hot tub. Yes we would.

Will WE have shrimp scampi or the gumbo?

No, "jambalaya, a crawfish pie and a fillet gumbo"

Are you sure that's what we'd want, Gal?

Ask Jak, not that he'll be eating with us...

LOL...okay...we really must go!

No, "jambalaya, a crawfish pie and a fillet gumbo"

#162 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2010-08-23 02:11 AM | Reply | Flag: Ma Cher Amio

Hank Williams reference FTW!

Luff, luff, luff this place.

Cos.. sonamagun, we gonna have big fun on the Retort.

Be Well.

I'm in a hotel room in Baton Rogue.

Luckily we can soon read all about Mao's exciting trip in his upcoming ghost-penned memoir "Jak Se Mao: Goin' Baton Rogue".

Be Well.

/Sorry, Simply could NOT resist.
//Laws, Deth is weak Spud when it comes to crackin' corny jokes.

Go away.

Political blogging in the 21st Century. ;-)

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see it as that big of a story... If anything, you'd think Fox News would be trumpeting this story claiming Bush's Iraq Adventure has turned out rather successful in the end.

This thread turned Creepy in a hurry.

Boyd--get a life ay?

just a point. Based on number of viewers that if Fox only spent 10 minutes on the withdrawal and MSNBC spent all 24 hours on it that day. Most likely more people saw it on Fox than MSNBC.

Just pointing that out.

It appears MSNBC had an awesome vehicle they had ready for this to keep up with everything going on. Cudos to them.

Republicans are blind sheep.

Republicans are blind sheep.

#170 | Posted by jackass at

Not true. The ones still calling themselves Republicans, yes.

One thing for certain is that Democrats are in big trouble and they don't even know it. Blind?

It appears MSNBC had an awesome vehicle they had ready for this to keep up with everything going on.

I don't expect them to report on anything positive that has happened to the Iraqi people. Where's all the footage of sandal-slap-happy Iraqis, running through the streets, overjoyed by the massive withdrawal of combat forces?