Yep, that will sure make people spend more money in california.

When will california learn you can't put actors in as governors.

That will motivate them to do a good job.

Way to go Arnie!

What do you suggest a governor do? You are quick to throw stones but offer no solution of your own.

I feel he is delaying the"layoffs", hoping for the economy to recover and avoid making the tough cutbacks. We already can't goto some parks on mondays ;)

If your checkbook has a zero balance you can't write checks?

California is broke; they can't print money like the Feds so they don't have many options.

It's going to get worse before it gets better.

I really don't see why state workers shouldn't share the pain most workers in the private sector are feeling. At least they aren't being laid off.

Glad I'm not affected. But I know a lot of people who will be.

That will motivate them to do a good job.

Who said the purpose of this was to motivate the employees to do a good job?

What's funny is that the average California citizen probably won't notice any reduction in services when those 150,000 workers are gone. Maybe they should just be fired.

California Furloughs 150,000 Workers

That's a good start....

Now let's see if we can "double-down" on the same number of Fed beauracrats

Actually Joe, you are wrong. Whenever there are furloughs of State employees, the private citizenry are greatly affected and are very loud about it. Here at the courthouse, the clerks (who are State, not County, employees) now must close the doors at 4 pm everyday instead of 5pm, and are closed over lunch hour. Countywide we see literally hundreds of people a month coming in during those hours who leave angry and flustered.

Great. 150,000 more people making less money and likely soon having to put their house up for sale in a California housing market already flooded with foreclosures and short sales.

The REAL unemployment figure for California -- the one the media doesn't publicize -- is 25%.

Whenever there are furloughs of State employees, the private citizenry are greatly affected and are very loud about it. Here at the courthouse, the clerks (who are State, not County, employees) now must close the doors at 4 pm everyday instead of 5pm, and are closed over lunch hour.

And if your courthouse is anything like mine, most of the employees aren't around during lunch anyways, and they are all packing up and trying to lock the door by 4PM anyways, rolling their eyes at anyone who walks in the door. So they may as well furlough them and "close" during those time periods in which they are so reluctant to do any actual work anyways.

Joe, makes me seriously doubt you are even really a lawyer. No courthouse I know functions that way. Not a one.

Come to Cook County, Illinois.

Holy crap - 3 years ago I got a job offer from the CA State Auditor's Office, where they touted the many benefits of their wonderful state. Crap like this make me more and more glad every month that I turned them down.

Holy crap - 3 years ago I got a job offer from the CA State Auditor's Office, where they touted the many benefits of their wonderful state. Crap like this make me more and more glad every month that I turned them down.

#15 | Posted by bartimus at 2010-08-19 03:10 PM

3 years ago you would have been sitting pretty. Not anymore.

When will california learn you can't let the public-sector unions bankrupt the entire state.

#1 | Posted by Dragnlady at 2010-08-19 12:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

Fixed!

Eh?

Do you work for the State of California, 2008? Do you even know anyone who does or did?

If not then you really have no idea what you are talking about.

Joe,

Cook County, IL is not California and to compare the two is comparing apples to oranges.

Really? I could have sworn they were both overtaxed, bankrupt governments that are largely run and populated by liberals. If you could point out any relevant differences between IL and CA, I'd love to hear them.

Blaming Ahh-nuhld is the quick way, but the crazy way CA's state legislature is set up is really to blame.

Yep, that will sure make people spend more money in california.

When will california learn you can't put actors in as governors.

#1 | Posted by Dragnlady

The damn state is BROKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF do you expect him to do???

That has to be the DUMB post of the week.

Great. 150,000 more people making less money and likely soon having to put their house up for sale in a California housing market already flooded with foreclosures and short sales.

#10 | Posted by CalifChris

I guess you don't realize the state is broke. Just step right up and write them a check to cover the amount. They all will be well in al-la land.

Great. 150,000 more people making less money and likely soon having to put their house up for sale in a California housing market already flooded with foreclosures and short sales.
#10 | POSTED BY CALIFCHRIS AT 2010-08-19 02:57 PM | REPLY | FLAG

if being furloughed for 3 days per month is the margin between making/not making a house payment, then I'd suggest they bought too much house.

Glad to hear this.

Although, it will have little effect. They really need to go after the three untouchables: Teachers, Police and their pensions. Those are the main costs for the government of CA. Tinkering with anything beside that is an exercise in futility.

This is one of first few things he's done I agree with.

They will retaliate by taking out the most/highest impact positions so the tax-payers feel the "pain" even though they could probably cut somewhere less significant.

The employees, and maybe the media too, will phrase it as a "pay cut" but that's bull-shit. A pay-cut is when you work the SAME hours for LESS money. Getting days OFF does not count. Many will enjoy the "sacrifice".

That's why I would like to see a 30% cross-the-board pay reduction! That should encourage many to get out of so-called "government service" - which should really be phased as "public hostage".

I worked for a company once that cut everyone's salary by 50% back in 1985 - when I lived in Seattle. I left to go work for Microsoft and probably never would have even applied if that hadn't happened.

What starts in California moves eastward. Public employee layoffs are just beginning.

The damn state is BROKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF do you expect him to do???

That has to be the DUMB post of the week.

#22 | Posted by Sniper

The whole US is BROKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not just California.

I expect the governor to work with the legislature to solve the problem. Not his answer of "Do it my way or no way".

Just as I expect the president to work with the legislature to solve the problems of the US. Unfortunately with our last president it was "My way or no way", one who only found the veto pen when the democrats took office.

I'm still giving Obama a chance, after all it wasn't until Bush was in his 3rd year that I started blaming him.

Arnie had his chance and blew it when he put through the W/C changes he made in 2004. To better enrich the insurance companies and once again screw over the worker in california.

I expect the governor to work with the legislature to solve the problem. Not his answer of "Do it my way or no way".

What if the legislature is filled with hacks who have no ability to pass any meaningful reform? What if the governor's way is the right way? Why should the governor wait for something that will never actually happen?

Really? I could have sworn they were both overtaxed, bankrupt governments that are largely run and populated by liberals. If you could point out any relevant differences between IL and CA, I'd love to hear them.

Well... the weather for one... and it has 3.5X the population... both those factors are significant.

People often mistake CA's liberal social attitudes for liberal economic policies... it's really a mixed bag and differs a lot by region, coastal or inland... northern, central or southern and the counties differ too...lots of republiclown counties in CA...its just that the dems have the larger population sites sewn up...

its governor is just a republiclown in name only... and only got elected was because Enron fucked Gray Davis by cutting off the electric grid and laughing about it... and did so with the blessings of the republiclown party.

#30 you must be from Humboldt County, 'cause you are high, high, high... wtf is a republiclown. that's just about the gayist term i've ever heard. republicans have no power in Cali. some local county issues, but state usurps most local authority anyway - and the state, my stoner friend, is dominated by "democlowns."

I expect the governor to work with the legislature to solve the problem. Not his answer of "Do it my way or no way".

#28 | Posted by Dragnlady

Sweetcheeks, they have been arguing about the budget ever since the terminator took office. The legislature has sat on their fat asses.

Just keep them on and give them IOUs or just pay them with Monopoly(TM) money

When will california learn you can't put actors in as governors.
#1 | Posted by Dragnlady

You're using that word "actors" rather loosely aren't you? Or was it "governors"? Hmph either or.

You're using that word "actors" rather loosely aren't you? Or was it "governors"? Hmph either or.

#34 | Posted by Tedly

She was using the wterm Calif. legislature rather loosely.

My town keeps talking about furloughs but they never do it. I wish they would so I could play more weekday golf. The rest of the town employees are against it, so I keep my mouth shut.

5 DANNI,
This is getting crazy. You are making sense again. Excellent post.

95% of California's problem is as a result of the illegal alien invasion.
AGAIN - 2nd grade arithmetic. FREE (i.e., taxpayer paid) healthcare, housing, food, education, interpreters, etc., etc., etc.

Even lefties could do this math if they tried!

JM

95% of California's problem is as a result of the illegal alien invasion.

California still has not recovered from Enron fucking them. Remember Gray Davis being recalled because of California's economic trouble? Of course not. Remembering how California got where they are would require turning against the Republicans when it is easier to blame Mexicans.

If you could point out any relevant differences between IL and CA, I'd love to hear them.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2010-08-19 03:46 PM

Our last couple of Governors won't be in jail?

38 KAN

Enron's scumbag CEO and the rest of the lying, cheating bastards who scammed Cal and others are swamp scum dirt. But that's a complete joke compared to the on-going, daily growing travesty that is illegal immigration.

The economic and social drain on Cal, Zona, etc., is like a balls-to-the-wall, 24 hr/day, wide open faucet on America's bank account.

Why is it that liberals can't seem to fathom this?

JM

That will motivate them to do a good job.

Way to go Arnie!

#2 | Posted by 726

LOL!!!

these are state workers whose expectations are low to begin with...

if they become unmotivated then no one is going to notice

Why is it that liberals can't seem to fathom this?

I wouldn't consider Kanrei a liberal, but I agree with you, the immigration problem is HUGE.

Hopefully, all of these 150,000 were Obama voters. Hope and Change and all.