All encounters with the police should be videotaped. If not, we are at their mercy to say whatever they want. And trust me, they do it all the time.

I think I've OD'd on Kool Aid (literally) when I agree with 8ball.

Seriously, you'd think cops would have a reasonable expectation of being recorded, if not by the offender than by the public at large.

I'm all in favor in taping encounters with the police. I sat on a jury once where video tape from officers stopping a car was introduced. The tape showed them stopping the car way to hell and gone out in the country (could've been Mars for all I know), walking over to the driver, saying something that couldn't be heard, and then...the tape cut out and didn't resume until it showed a kilo brick of cocaine in the car's trunk. Personally, I found that more than slightly suspicious.

Either everyone can video tape or no one can video tape.

make up yer mind.

If cops can legally videotape people through Dash Cams and pocket video cameras then the general public should be able to videotape cops. Fair is Fair.

Larry

Sure it's okay to have cameras at stop lights all over outside of buildings and various other places to watch us and send us to jail if we fuck up...but the police can't be video taped...what happens if they get caught on surveillance tapes?

Using wiretap laws in cases like this is a clear situation where a prosecutor is intentionally using a law in a way it was never intended in order to deprive someone of their rights.

Not only should this not be illegal but the prosecutors involved should be disbarred.

And cops shouldn't be doing anything to a private citizen when nobody else is around that they wouldn't do if a whole crowd of people were watching anyway.

Either everyone can video tape or no one can video tape.

make up yer mind.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy

Here, here.

Wiretapping laws are intended to cover private conversations. Video of a fucked up cop on a power trip arresting you in public in no way falls under the wiretapping laws. This is just the state's way of trying to scare people out of videoing cops in the future. State's are losing money due to the actions of bad cops caught on tape, and they will try to find any way to stop it - other than policing the police, of course.

"All encounters with the police should be videotaped. If not, we are at their mercy to say whatever they want. And trust me, they do it all the time."

Everyone knows what the police are asking for. How would police "encounters" get wrote-up without a video of events?

How would Rodney King be wrote-up?

How would the NY'er who got pulled off their bike for no apparent reason and with all of the cops deliberate force get wrote-up if there were no video?

How would the UMD celebration/riot of beating Duke get wrote-up by the cops with no video available?

WE ALL know what they are asking for.

It reflects on us if we let them have it.

'Drunk cop
www.youtube.com'

That's not a real cop.

That's not a real cop.

Posted by wurster at 2010-08-04 09:45 PM | Reply

It's a Louisiana cop.

My ex lost her leg to a drunk cop who hit her while driving his patrol car on duty.

Fuck you.

We live in a police state whether or not you recognize the fact.

Violations of the law are felonies punishable by imprisonment for not more than five years and a fine of not more than $10,000. Civil liability for violations can include the greater of actual damages, $100 a day for each day of violation or $1,000, along with punitive damages, attorney fees and litigation costs. To recover civil damages, however, a plaintiff must prove that the defendant knew it was illegal to tape the communication without consent from all participants. MD. Code Ann., Cts. & Jud. Proc. § 10-410.

-I don't know where they got the 16 year sentence,its not even close here.

State courts have interpreted the laws to protect communications only when the parties have a reasonable expectation of privacy, and thus, where a person in a private apartment was speaking so loudly that residents of an adjoining apartment could hear without any sound enhancing device, recording without the speaker's consent did not violate the wiretapping law.

-The cops in public,or anyone for that matter should not expect a "reasonable expectation of privacy" this matter will be droped.
Also,I watch Americas Funniest Home Videos every week.By the definition the cops use this would be illegal as well.
The link is a quick check of Marylands law,along with all the other states.It doesn't seem like a big deal.

",I watch Americas Funniest Home Videos every week."

Please kill yourself after murdering everyone you ever met.

The universe, let alone this miserable planet, will be better off.

I assume you have many encounters with the Police?

Posted by libsrclueless at 2010-08-04 10:50 PM | Reply

That happens when one is a lawyer.

Pay attention shit_for_brains. (Linux joke)

clueless,8 days on the DR and you're the biggest asshole,congratulations.but I get the feeling you've been here a long time before working on it.

clueless,8 days on the DR and you're the biggest asshole,congratulations.but I get the feeling you've been here a long time before working on it.

That's chickenrancher, cabo vato, bogger, etc. He's like an illegal alien that's been deported dozens of times and can't take the hint.

18 | Posted by Zatoichi

What is it snatch,your twat itching again? You got a problem with me sitting down with my family and watching that show,there's some funny clips on there,something you need in your joyless life.
Keep buying drinks for your Nobel winner friends,you'll never get one.

rwd

"you'll never get one"

I got drunk once with a guy who had two.

You'll never matter.

I haven't stopped.

#18 | Posted by Zatoichi

One more thing,your Nobel friends must have had a good laugh when they found out about your little pool experiment.
I assume they have enough class to laugh behind your back.
When you get back from the bar with their drinks and they all stop laughing is usually a good indicater.

rwd

I got drunk once with a guy who had two.

I haven't stopped.

#23 | Posted by Zatoichi

Drinking that is.FTFY

I once got drunk with a guy that bowled a 300 and could turn a lit cigarette around in his mouth.He bought me drinks all night.

rwd

I once got drunk with a guy that bowled a 300 and could turn a lit cigarette around in his mouth.He bought me drinks all night.

rwd

Did you put out?

Posted by rightwingdon at 2010-08-04 11:09 PM | Reply massive physics FAIL

They've been dead for some time.

Not that that makes you intelligent.
It just reminds us you are shit.

Memoir on solar heat, the radiative effects of the atmosphere, and the temperature of space

#27 | Posted by Zatoichi

They've been dead for some time.

-That reminds me of that old joke of why men die first

It just reminds us you are shit.

-Whats this us shit, or are you just wearing out that dead bird in your pocket.
Do tell.

rwd

I got drunk once with the grandfather from Charles in Charge. I got drunk once with a trucker who like to listen to Skynard and nod his head and repeat the lyrics under his breath followed by a little laugh "give me three steps, hehe". I got drunk once with the guy whose picture was all over the newspapers because he was the one schmuck out of thousands who got caught throwing snowballs during a Giants game. I got drunk once with a guy who looked almost exactly like Don Mattingly and who even batted left handed in wiffleball. I got drunk once with a guy who was later convicted for nearly decapitating someone. I drunk once with a Mexican who claimed to have been a former backup player for Carlos Santana but seemed to think "Blue Moon" was a Santana song. Getting drunk is fun.

Wow. Simply unbelievable. ALWAYS record your police encounters, otherwise you are at their mercy which includes fraudulently depicting any and all events in their favor.

We need cameras on their guns and tasers - every Goddamned shot fired should be analyzed to determine their factual use. FUCK police corruption and ANY "officer" incapable of upholding their sworn duties, particularly in light of evidence contrary to their story.

.. In the Graber case, the trooper also apparently had reason to want to keep his actions off the Internet. He cut Graber off in an unmarked vehicle, approached Graber in plain clothes and yelled while brandishing a gun before identifying himself as a trooper.

..

Law enforcement is fighting back. In the case of Graber - a young husband and father who had never been arrested - the police searched his residence and seized computers. Graber spent 26 hours in jail even before facing the wiretapping charges that could conceivably put him away for 16 years. (It is hard to believe he will actually get anything like that, however. One point on his side: the Maryland attorney general's office recently gave its opinion that a court would likely find that the wiretap law does not apply to traffic stops.) ..

I passed two cops this morning on the way in to work, they were both obviously waiting for someone to drive by a couple miles an hour over the limit. I was wondering as I passed if they both know how many of us citizens out here think they are assholes. I wonder if even their families still respect them knowing that these days about all they do is harrass innocent drivers so that they can force them to cough up a couple hundred in fines and perhaps preserve their jobs for them. Fort Lauderdale had a 92% increase in fines and forfeitures this year. I think cops are mostly there to shake us down these days, that "protect and serve" bullshit is history.

that "protect and serve" bullshit is history.

I concur.

This is disturbing. To paraphrase a great comic and movie:

Who watches the watchers?

"Who watches the watchers?"

Little by little the night turns around.
Counting the leaves which tremble and turn.
Lotus's lean on each other in union.
Over the hills where a swallow is resting.

Set the controls for the heart of the sun.

Over the mountain watching the watcher.
Breaking the darkness, waking the grapevine.
Morning to birth is born into shadow
Love is the shadow that ripens the wine.

Set the controls for the heart of the sun.
The heart of the sun, the heart of the sun.

Who is the man who arrives at the wall?
Making the shape of his questions at asking.
Thinking the sun will fall in the evening.
Will he remember the lesson of giving?

Set the controls for the heart of the sun.
The heart of the sun, the heart of the sun.

Not all cops are assholes, sadly just the ones that make the news.

The one who I spoke with after a 29 year old was texting my 14 year old was nice, he called the pervert and told him they had a file open on him now as a possible sex offender. He then called and gave me his and his partners cell numbers and let me know if it ever happened again to call him. Really nice guy.

The one who pulled me over for expired registration and let me go after telling me that I could in fact get the registration done even though the owner was dead was pretty cool too.

Just remember not all cops are assholes, just the ones that make the news.

Tao, I know that's true, but part of me thinks that there is something wrong with everyone who becomes a cop these days. Who makes the choice to wage war on their fellow citizens harming no one, such as arresting people for possession of marijuana? What kind of person doesn't speak up within the force asking why they are commonly cutting police numbers down so far that you have to call hotlines in a number of cities for all but the most violent of crimes, because no police will respond, yet they are still out there issuing tickets like their jobs depend on it? (which, they probably do)

I know there are some people who become police for the right reasons - but how long before their peers and the power the modern police state gives them corrupts that or drives them out of the force? And how many are just thugs who joined after getting beat up on the playground one too many times, and now want to make society pay them back?