Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, July 30, 2010

During House debate on a $7.4 billion bill to provide health care aid to 9/11 first responders, which later was defeated, Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) angrily denounced Republicans for using procedural excuses for opposing the bill. "It's Republicans wrapping their arms around Republicans, rather than doing the right thing on behalf of the heroes!" he thundered. "You vote yes if you believe yes! You vote in favor of something if you believe it's the right thing! If you believe it's the wrong thing, you vote no!"

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Term limits anyone?

....health care aid to 9/11 first responders?

Sorry, not in the GOP Contract ON America.

Term limits for Anthony Weiner....yeah let's limit him to about 25 terms in office. He represents the people, something Republicans can't stand.

I love Weiner.

You vote yes if you believe yes! You vote in favor of something if you believe it's the right thing! If you believe it's the wrong thing, you vote no!"

We have had enough voting based on "belief".

Lets try "facts" for a change.

I wonder when the 'small people' are going to discover that the teabagging repub party of no is not interested in their 'small problems' like living, working and being free.

I wonder when the 'small people' are going to discover that the teabagging repub party of no is not interested in their 'small problems' like living, working and being free.

That's an angry Weiner.

Sorry about being a bean-counting prick again, but $7.4 billion?

Suppose there were 10,000 "first responders"--a number that seems pretty high anyhow. That works out to $740,000 apiece, on top of all the municipal health benefits they already enjoy. That doesn't seem high to anyone else? Doesn't any of those retards up there know how to run a calculator?

Maybe the NY Weiner should pore through the most pork-laden budget in the history of planet earth, and try to find the money somewhere else. Unless, of course, it's just not that important to him after all. Could that be? He's got an election coming up, and wants to make the news?

lol, give 'em hell, An'tony!

Repubes trying to use Senate-like stalling tactics in the House, claiming they REALLY want to vote for this, but "can't".

Bullshit.

I wonder when the 'small people' are going to discover that the teabagging repub party of no is not interested in their 'small problems' like living, working and being free.

#7 | Posted by Lipzoidial

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$7,400,000,000 works out to about $75 per household. And I'm sure there is a fund already set up, that you can send your contribution to. It's probably tax deductible besides.

Hurry along. You've got a check to write.

He should be going crazy. Those are his consituents. If more politicians had this kind of passion things would be better for everyone.

Give 'em HELL Weiner!

Maybe it is time for the right to wheel out that scrawny blond haired biatch Ann Coulter to decry the 9/11 whores again?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha RepubliCANTS.

Weiner?
Sounds like a nice Irish boy name.

In his eyes doing the 'right thing' means doing the dem thing (whether it is right or not).

If the libbies who are pretending to be outraged over the Republicans actually took out a checkbook and cut one to the heroes' foundation, Congress wouldn't have anything to be talking about.

Typical of libbies, though. Always very generous, as long as the money is someone else's. When it comes to charity, giving blood, giving time, giving cash--they all have alligator arms.

$740,000 apiece.

I love Weiner.

#4 | POSTED BY RCADE

No, I don't believe you aren't smart enough to see through this staged event. That's not possible.

Why did Democrats bring up this in a way that needed a two thirds majority of the house to pass? If they brought it up as a normal bill it passes easily. But then Weiner can't get all pissed off.

This is a sham... there is no way you fell for it.

So for the 1,000 rescue works that have health issues, he wants $7,400,000,000.

Why don't we just write them all a check for $7,400,000 each and call it even.

Good grief.

Weiner is a bit stiff.

$7,400,000,000 works out to about $75 per household. And I'm sure there is a fund already set up, that you can send your contribution to. It's probably tax deductible besides.

Charity's great, but why shouldn't the government pay to help the people who came to the aid of Americans during the worst attack on our country since Pearl Harbor? We all saw the clouds. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that breathing all that stuff would have savage health consequences for decades.

If more politicians had this kind of passion things would be better for everyone.

#11 | Posted by briwo
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We're already broke. Maybe he could be similarly pissed off at the Assembly in Albany, or the New York City Council. If it's such a worthy cause, shouldn't they be taking it up?

Of course, it's easier to try to shake down citizens in Iowa or Hawaii or California, who are already struggling with the budgets for their own first responders.

He should be going crazy. Those are his consituents. If more politicians had this kind of passion things would be better for everyone.

#11 | POSTED BY BRIWO

Then shouldn't he be pissed at his own party for trying to pass it this way? Shouldn't something as important as taking care of 9/11 rescue workers be brought to the floor for a normal vote? Why all this two thirds majority shit?

Exactly, because they wanted to fake anger more than take care of the workers who were down there on 9/11.

This was a staged political event... anyone buying into Weiner's fake outrage is a fucking moron.

No, I don't believe you aren't smart enough to see through this staged event. That's not possible.

I don't know why the vote required two-thirds. When that becomes clear, then we can judge if the Democrats were playing games or not.

Wobbie, you're back. Your old email is no good.

Hey what was that movie you saw awhile back that you said the ending sucked really, really bad? You were on here bithing about it fo hours one day.

sometimes, weiners are savage.

Term limits for Anthony Weiner....yeah let's limit him to about 25 terms in office. He represents the people, something Republicans can't stand.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2010-07-30 12:24 PM

Hell, just make him King of New York then.

No one else in the State can do his "job"? Hilarious! Your average high school drop out would make better legislators than we have now.

It's certainly okay to want to be a follower of elected leaders your entire life. But do you have to be so slobbering and pathetic about it?

It's time we outlaw professional politicians in America. The day has dawned for the citizen legislator (or we can all kiss our collective asses goodbye like Rome did before us).

We're already broke.

I will believe we're broke when we send the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan because it costs too much.

Charity's great, but why shouldn't the government pay to help the people who came to the aid of Americans during the worst attack on our country since Pearl Harbor? We all saw the clouds. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that breathing all that stuff would have savage health consequences for decades.

#19 | Posted by rcade

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Thanks for making my case for me. You sound very concerned. Get the address of the fund, and send them a check out of your own pocket, like you already do with all the other causes you're concerned about, that you personally feel you should support.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder how much Weiner has given?

I love Weiner.

#4 | Posted by rcade

But what do think of the Representitive?

FF Wisgod!

I don't know why the vote required two-thirds. When that becomes clear, then we can judge if the Democrats were playing games or not.

#22 | POSTED BY RCADE A

COME ON!! You can't be serious! They required the 2/3 majority so they could have the outrage.

They have the votes to pass this in the normal way, but then they can't be pissed off about it not passing and make an issue of it.

The people to be pissed at here are the Democrats, not the Republicans. The Republicans strategy is clear to everyone, they are going to vote no on everything. The Democrats could have easily passed this without 1 GOP vote, they chose this route deliberately so it wouldn't pass and they could get pissed about it and bring it up in November.

There's no "let's wait and see" here. Its flat out obvious!

Wobbie, you're back. Your old email is no good.
Hey what was that movie you saw awhile back that you said the ending sucked really, really bad? You were on here bithing about it fo hours one day.

#23 | POSTED BY BRIWO

LOL yeah I had to shut that down for certain reasons...

Book Of Eli with Denzel Washington... that fucker still pisses me off.

It was actually really good right up until the last 10 minutes.

-send them a check out of your own pocket,

"The general welfare", "We the People"...... just words.

The founding fathers would be run out of the GOTParty these days as commie pinko Muslim sympathizers.

"or we can all kiss our collective asses goodbye like Rome did before us)."

I just love 2,000 year old comparisons, as if they have even the slightest relevance...ridiculous. Laughable.

The second video makes Weiner's and the Democrats motives absolutely clear. He is flat out asked by the host why they went the 2/3 majority route and not just a simple vote. He doesn't answer and changes the subject.

Democrats staging a political event at the expense of 9/11 heroes.

You stay classy DNC

It was actually really good right up until the last 10 minutes.

#31 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2010-07-30 12:40 PM

OK, I just saw that one and it was good. But the ending must of sucked so bad I've blocked it from my mind. Didn't he get killed or just die and that was the end?

I see you are still a wingtard, oh well, a zebra can't change his stripes either.

PS: Eagles are REALLY gonna suck this season. HAHAHA

I thought National Healthcare would take of their health issues.

Why doesn't the Democrat House pass a bill to allow the people to sue Saudi Arabia? Isn't that were the terrorists came from (at least most of them)?

WTC 7. "Pull it" Broadcast on the BBC that the building collapsed...when it hadn't yet.

Sorry, perhaps this isn't to help the people but to pay for their guilt.

Well, too bad the wikileaks didn't include some data from 2001. Maybe a nugget would be found.

PS: Eagles are REALLY gonna suck this season. HAHAHA

#35 | POSTED BY BRIWO

We'll see... At least Donovan "Groundhog Day" McNabb is gone. I liked him, but it was the same damn thing every year. Start slow, get hot, make a playoff run, choke.

How you liking Pete Carrol up there in Seattle?

#4 I love Weiner.

I guess that rumor is dispelled...

#16 Says it all about the circus event in DC right before all the dorks leave for their 6 week vacation.

The Republicans strategy is clear to everyone, they are going to vote no on everything. The Democrats could have easily passed this without 1 GOP vote, they chose this route deliberately so it wouldn't pass and they could get pissed about it and bring it up in November.

If that is the Republican strategy, then who can blame the Democrats for bringing votes to the floor that highlight their refusal to govern? Obstructionism is not leadership.

I don't know why the vote required two-thirds. When that becomes clear, then we can judge if the Democrats were playing games or not.

#22 | Posted by rcade at 2010-07-30 12:35 PM |

According to Peter King this morning, the dems didn't have the guts to call for an up or down vote becasue they were afraid to debate some of the amendments. All Wee Willy Wiener could due is rip on King for not working hard enough to get repubs on board. King kept pointing and calling him a coward. Good TV.

Knowing what a whining little bitch Weiner is, I doubt this outrage has anything to do with votes, but more to do with getting ahead of the fallout when the bill is vetted. Much like his embarrassing pathetic stunt over Glenn Beck and Goldline. This clown is a phony.

What it is with dems losing it lately? Massa, Kennedy, Etheridge, Rodriguez, Weiner... Would hearing something never uttered be considered losing it? Hell the whole party seems to be on tilt.

If that is the Republican strategy, then who can blame the Democrats for bringing votes to the floor that highlight their refusal to govern? Obstructionism is not leadership.

#39 | POSTED BY RCADE

So you are fine with using the heroes of September 11 as a political stunt? Those who ran into the buildings while everyone ran out, those who breathed in the ash and asbestos to hunt desperately for survivors should be nothing but a game for Democrats rather than provide them with the care they have earned with their bravery?

I just love 2,000 year old comparisons, as if they have even the slightest relevance...ridiculous. Laughable.
#33 | Posted by danni

What a twat...

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
-Edmund Burke

How you liking Pete Carrol up there in Seattle?

Cheatey Petey left a mess at USC, whose football program is now Up Shit Creek.

-According to Peter King this morning, the dems didn't have the guts to call for an up or down vote becasue they were afraid to debate some of the amendments.

What he meant to say was an up or down vote would have let the GOP stall the bill for days or weeks with a mountain of amendments.

That's what he meant to say.

And that's what Wiener did say in the interview.

-What a twat...

What a twit...

Typical of libbies, though. Always very generous, as long as the money is someone else's.

That statement sums up one of the major differences between Republicans and Democrats. Democrats are willing to help each other; Republicans only want to help themselves.

What he meant to say was an up or down vote would have let the GOP stall the bill for days or weeks with a mountain of amendments.
That's what he meant to say.
And that's what Wiener did say in the interview.
#44 | POSTED BY CORKY

So better to go with a procedure that will absolutely fail!

Better to have no care for 9/11 workers then have it stalled a while, that way Weiner can make his cute little speech.

November can't come soon enough for the Dems. Given the obvious incompetence and recalcitrance of the GOP any Dem losses in Congress will be FAR less than they would have been were there to exist a competent opposition.

Cheatey Petey left a mess at USC, whose football program is now Up Shit Creek.

#43 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Talk about getting out just in time huh? Like a CEO who sells everything just before the SEC comes calling.

-So better to go with a procedure that will absolutely fail!

No, less than 20 Repubes could have voted their conscious instead of lock-stepping with their Party... which is what Wiener was going off about on the floor.

Much like his embarrassing pathetic stunt over Glenn Beck and Goldline. This clown is a phony.

GoldLine is ripping people off by selling them collectible gold coins and acting like they're gold bullion. What's pathetic is that Beck is a party to ripping off his audience.

So you are fine with using the heroes of September 11 as a political stunt?

The Democrats put a bill on the floor that could have passed now if Republicans cared more about 9/11 first responders than about their scorched-earth vote no on everything election strategy. They didn't, so it's on the Republicans who voted no. They can go home and explain that vote to their constituents.


No, less than 20 Repubes could have voted their conscious instead of lock-stepping with their Party... which is what Wiener was going off about on the floor.
#50 | POSTED BY CORKY

Could have been passed without 1 GOP vote, but then Weiner can't lose his shit and flail around on the floor of the house.

They played a game with a 9/11 workers. Got their hopes up that they would get care and then used them for politics.

Democrats are far more fucked up here than the GOP and I'm guessing everyone here knows it whether its admitted or not.

if Republicans cared more about 9/11 first responders than about their scorched-earth vote no on everything election strategy

Are we accepting it as a given that this bill was the proper way to care for 9/11 first responders? And that the only reason one would vote against it would be as part of some broader election strategy, and not because it costs too much?

The Democrats put a bill on the floor that could have passed now if Republicans cared more about 9/11 first responders than about their scorched-earth vote no on everything election strategy. They didn't, so it's on the Republicans who voted no. They can go home and explain that vote to their constituents.

#52 | POSTED BY RCADE

I get that you're a democrat running a left leaning site so you have to go with the talking points, but I'm still refusing to believe you are stupid enough to not see this for the political stunt that it was.

The republicans may have voted no, but the Democrats didn't need one 'Yes'.

They played a game with sick heroes. That's fucked up.

"No, less than 20 Repubes could have voted their conscious instead of lock-stepping with their Party"

Wonder where they learned that from.
projects.washingtonpost.com

Politics is theater and this is theater. The DNC wins this round. It was as well played as the RNC playing the Breitbart story to show a reactionary White House. This was a bill for 9-11 First Responders- the very people the RNC wrapped themselves around and the RNC voted no because of the procedure and not the bill? The RNC lost this round.

The Republicans strategy is clear to everyone, they are going to vote no on everything. The Democrats could have easily passed this without 1 GOP vote, they chose this route deliberately so it wouldn't pass and they could get pissed about it and bring it up in November.

Rob_The_A_Hole, I think you're right. Democrats are calling the Republicans bluff of voting "no" on everything, in a way that will appeal to the electorate's understanding of the narrative.

It seems they are trying to wrest the "we are the party who can handle 9/11" mantle from Giuliani and the Republicans.

The Democrats will never have G-d on their side, but if they can get the Flag, they'll have a significant boost.

Meanwhile, the Republicans have their own problems. The Know-Nothing Party has split off from them again. They've reincarnated as the Tea Party, still worried about immigration, and the fear of the Pope has been updated for modern times, with our Marxist Kenyan President owing secret allegiance to George Soros.

-They played a game with a 9/11 workers.

They offered a 2/3'rds vote that could have given quick attention to the problem instead of offering an up or down vote which would have brought days if not weeks of Repube stalling... which you would have vigorously condemned as playing political football with 911 heroes one can only suppose, lmao.

Wisgod..."When the strike of a hawk breaks the body of its prey, it is because of timing."

Sun Tzu

Yours in #28 is impeccable.

They played a game with sick heroes. That's fucked up.

Ooh, such outrage over a couple hundred heroes. You must have really been angry when Bush fucked the VA and millions of sick heroes. I bet you had to use ALL CAPS to express how steaming mad you were!

LOL

They offered a 2/3'rds vote that could have given quick attention to the problem instead of offering an up or down vote which would have brought days if not weeks of Repube stalling

That's your assumption of what would have happened. You have no way of knowing for sure.

What we know for sure today, is that this was a deliberate political game by the Democrats. Weiner is not really angry and everyone on their side knew this would happen which is why they did it. I'm guessing Weiner had his little rant written days in advance.

"That's what he meant to say."
Posted by Oscar Meyer, Weiner spokesman.

How you liking Pete Carrol up there in Seattle?

#37 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2010-07-30 12:49 PM

We'll see. It was a total surprise to us when they hired him.

Ya never know with The Pondchickens.

Yours in #28 is impeccable.

#60 | Posted by tontonmacoute

God Bless you, sir.

could have given quick attention to the problem

9 years after the attacks. Quick indeed!

Ooh, such outrage over a couple hundred heroes.

Was this to me or Weiner?

I'm not really outraged, I'm just pointing out its fucked up.

NYC and New York should have taken care of these guys a long time ago anyways.

Term limits for Anthony Weiner....yeah let's limit him to about 25 terms in office. He represents the people, something Republicans can't stand.

#3 | Posted by danni

there you go again danni..

anyway, uh the dems dont need repubs votes in the house so pass it, oh you mean you dont have enough votes from your own party members to pass it, there is where your anger should be directed

-That's your assumption of what would have happened. You have no way of knowing for sure

Try not to be ridiculous, that's exactly what was about to happen which is why they called the vote they did, if it wasn't about to happen they would have called an up or down vote, duh.

Try not to be ridiculous, that's exactly what was about to happen which is why they called the vote they did, if it wasn't about to happen they would have called an up or down vote, duh.

#69 | POSTED BY CORKY

So instead of having it delayed for a short period of time, they go a route that has it defeated entirely.

Nah, this wasn't staged at all.

Ooh, such outrage over a couple hundred heroes.

Was this to me or Weiner?

It was to you.

I'm not really outraged, I'm just pointing out its fucked up.

First time paying attention to politics?

NYC and New York should have taken care of these guys a long time ago anyways.

Why? The building was constructed and operated under the aegis of the New York/New Jersey Port Authority. Health effects pursuant to its catastrophic failure shouldn't fall in the lap of the Empire State.

Also, I see what you are getting at. Gulf War Syndrome vets should have been taken care of too. And I don't mean "taken care of" in the New York/New Jersey Port Authority sense of the phrase.

NO, they go a route intended to embarrass Repubes into voting for health benefits for 911 responders as soon as it's brought to the floor again instead of waiting weeks more.

Obviously forgetting that Repukes are beyond embarrassment.

So you are fine with using the heroes of September 11 as a political stunt?

I dunno, why don't we ask the 2004 Republican National Convention?
www.youtube.com

NO, they go a route intended to embarrass Repubes into voting for health benefits for 911 responders as soon as it's brought to the floor again instead of waiting weeks more.

You think this is really going to be the theme taken from this? I'm guessing its just going to add more to the anti-incumbency sentiment.

Democrats just fail again to get anything done and this is one they could have easily passed.

I get that you're a democrat running a left leaning site so you have to go with the talking points, but I'm still refusing to believe you are stupid enough to not see this for the political stunt that it was.

You don't seem to have a problem with the Republican political stunts of voting no on everything and abusing the filibuster in the Senate.

Politics ain't pinochle. Both sides do what it takes to help people *and* help their own re-election chances.

How many individuals are affected by this legislation and how much will they receive?

Now compare that to hoe much they will need.

What is the difference?

Why did the democrats add in the difference?

Whores.

Pallone explained what the current health care system provides for 9/11 responders.

"Basically right now if you were a first responder at the World Trade Center or someone who lived or worked in Lower Manhattan, you can get health care and go to a clinic that the federal government set up in various places," he said. "There is one in the Busch Campus at Rutgers and there are several in New York.
norcaltruth.org

You don't seem to have a problem with the Republican political stunts of voting no on everything and abusing the filibuster in the Senate.

Politics is a game, I don't necessarily mind whats going on, but let's all just admit its a game. Weiner isn't some great voice of the people who is truly outraged here. This was a stunt, probably orchestrated by Weiner so he could get up there and yell and bitch. At no point did the DNC ever care about the 9/11 workers in this.

#77 | Posted by rightisright at 2010-07-30 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

"If you are speaking the truth, you are retarded... Hail the King"

~ Danni-Corker


I wonder when the 'small people' are going to discover that the teabagging repub party of no is not interested in their 'small problems' like living, working and being free.

#7 | Posted by Lipzoidial

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$7,400,000,000 works out to about $75 per household. And I'm sure there is a fund already set up, that you can send your contribution to. It's probably tax deductible besides.

Hurry along. You've got a check to write.

#10 | Posted by rightisright at 2010-07-30 12:29 PM

Yeah, why distribute that money to the unwashed masses when it can just be put in the hands of a few wealthy elites. Everyone knows that by the principle of "The Miracle of the Tax Cut" every dollar given to the rich through tax cuts 'trickles down' to 10 dollars for the rest of us. That's why deficits don't matter when renewing tax cuts for the rich, they only matter when spending on the unemployed, roads, bridges, schools and first responders.

- The Right

-one they could have easily passed

After waiting for weeks of Repube amendments is not "easily".

The Dems could not pass the Bill on up or down without a long delay.

So they give Repubes a chance, only needing a few to vote their conscious.... only to find they have none.

Th subsequent opportunity to point out how Repubes care as little about 911 workers, as they do the unemployed, is just the icing on the cake you are whining about.

After waiting for weeks of Repube amendments is not "easily".

When compared to waiting 9 years, a couple weeks is fine. And its certainly better than nothing.

Th subsequent opportunity to point out how Repubes care as little about 911 workers

The Democrats are the ones that couldn't get the bill passed. The GOP just has to say, "Put us in the majority and we'll pass real legislation to help them and we'll get Democrats on board too."

All this stunt was is further proof that the DNC can't run the House.

BTW Sorry I'm not giving you any personal insults... I know you're just itching to flag some comments sissy.

Yeah, why distribute that money to the unwashed masses when it can just be put in the hands of a few wealthy elites.
Posted by DARTHCHENEY

What in the name of Ball Park Franks does that have to do with this, you idiot?

This was a stunt, probably orchestrated by Weiner so he could get up there and yell and bitch. At no point did the DNC ever care about the 9/11 workers in this.

Right... because 9/11 itself wasn't used as a "stunt" by Giuliani, or by Bush, or for Colin Powell to yell at bitch at the UN and justify invading Iraq.

Golly!

republiclowns have no respect for civilians ... it seems they were so into going to war over there so we don't have to "fight it here" they forgot that it was the civilians that stopped the 9/11 attackers from inflicting more damage on the nation and civilians that saved the lives. Fuckers.

$740,000 apiece.

It's not enough that the Democrats in Congress bail out the hedge fundies and investment bankers in New York. As long as there's a single person who ever set foot in lower Manhattan who's not a millionaire, their job isn't done.

Say it Dont Spray it

- And its certainly better than nothing.

Doesn't understand the process, as the Bill can be put up again any time.

-sissy

Ah, 'tis a said day when that's the best a frightened A Hole can do.

Don't be such a Weiner

They should have made the headline:

"Steamed Weiner on the Floor"

Does it really cost 7.4 billion to provide health care to first responders 9 years after the fact? Just curious.

Republicans argued that the cost of the legislation should come from cutting federal government spending programs rather than by raising taxes on companies at a time when the economic recovery is still underway.

"You can blame it on Republicans and I have been strongly critical of the Republican position on this issue but the reality is you could pass this bill if you wanted to," said Rep. Peter King (R., N.Y.).

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg blasted the decision by Democrats on the expedited basis that requires the higher vote threshold.

"A majority of people would vote for this bill and it would pass and they know full well that they will not get...66 percent," Bloomberg said Thursday at a press conference in New York City.

"They will not get that. And they know that. So this is a way to avoid having to make a tough decision and the people who worked down at 9/11 whose health is falling apart because they did what America wanted them to do. This is an American problem. And Congress should stand up."
online.wsj.com

The Republicans are such scumbags they won't even follow the proper rules of order.

What the hell is a "said" day?

This was a good political stunt by Weiner. Theater at its finest. He could have passed it easily by simple majority, but instead preferred to do it this way, to score cheap political points.

Must be an election coming up. Outrage! Look at me! I'm outraged!

Funny. Worked with the libtards here. Probably played well nationally too, if the libbies here are representative.

$740,000 each. With another $2.4 billion in 10 years.

#86 | Posted by rightisright

So, now you're claiming TARP and the Countrywide/Bear Stearns/et al bailouts happened under Obama's watch?

You're a weiner, as in Michael 'Savage'.

Here we go. AU and the Time Machine are in the house....

11 %..

nice...cant wait to hear the whole story on how its all the fault of the gop.....

hilarious....

and while they do this the white house prepares to give amnesty to millions and bypass this 'house of the people'........

This was a good political stunt by Weiner. Theater at its finest. He could have passed it easily by simple majority, but instead preferred to do it this way, to score cheap political points.

As others have said, simple majority would have opened it up to amendments, which could have been used by Republicans to table it since the recess is approaching.

I don't respond to AU anymore. He's a jerk.

WE need more Dems like Weiner who says it like it is. Time to stop taking shit off the Party of No and telling em like it is!

That's one passionate Weiner!

FF for Rcade's #4...

I could learn like Weiner too.

Regardless...I'd sure vote for that Weiner!

Does it really cost 7.4 billion to provide health care to first responders 9 years after the fact? Just curious.

#91 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

How much does the health care industry gouge a patient over the term of care, for cancer treatment? How much has it cost the family in lost wages and time for those months/years of treatment? Just curious.

As others have said, simple majority would have opened it up to amendments, which could have been used by Republicans to table it since the recess is approaching.

#99 | Posted by rcade
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Plus, it might have worked. He might have gotten the money, and he couldn't have gone on TV for his big show.

It was also amusing he didn't wear a coat for his TV appearance. He has to appear to be hard-working. Sleeves rolled up, working hard for the people!

$740,000 each.

I don't respond to AU anymore. He's a jerk.

#100 | Posted by rightisright

For consistently pointing out your incorrect 'facts' and that you sang an entirely different tune when Bush was in office?

Whatever works for you, dude.

"and while they do this the white house prepares to give amnesty to millions and bypass this 'house of the people'........"

He doesn't even have the power to grant amnesty but you continue with your paranoid dilusions anyway.

Brown, Spanish speaking people are coming to get you!!!!

Sooooooooooooo.... weener!!!!

Who has the majority in the HOUSE???? You dumb shit!!!!!!

On another thread RiR claimed Bush's deficits ranged from $150-400 Billion, when a cursory search evidences they topped $1.4 Trillion in FY 2009.

Righties don't choose to get their facts straight. I'm happy to post them.

How much does the health care industry gouge a patient over the term of care, for cancer treatment? How much has it cost the family in lost wages and time for those months/years of treatment? Just curious.

#102 | Posted by Whatsleft
* * * *

If you're a first responder, lost wages and time are paid out of workmen's comp funds, which means it cost the family nothing.

How many of the first responders will develop cancer? All of them? Just some? What percentage? What about the guy who ran a newspaper stand or a hamburger restaurant in Lower Manhattan, and opened up for the first responders? Anything for those guys? Or is their union not strong enough to demand million-dollar settlements?

Those injured on 9/11 have already gotten payouts, ranging from $500 to more than $10 million. I'm not looking for an excuse to say no, but three-quarters of a million dollars apiece just sounds awfully high. Just a slush fund.

How much does the health care industry gouge a patient over the term of care, for cancer treatment? How much has it cost the family in lost wages and time for those months/years of treatment? Just curious.

#102 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2010-07-30 02:05 PM | Reply | Flag: Non-answers, not very helpful

He doesn't even have the power to grant amnesty but you continue with your paranoid dilusions anyway.

Brown, Spanish speaking people are coming to get you!!!!

#105 | Posted by danni at 2010

SWEETY>...THE VIEW IS OVER>...turn on your tv and get some UP TO DATE news....memo discovered from white house.."immigration sevice' perscribing how to give AMNESTY and bypass "we the people'...

OR VISIT THE BACK page where afkabl2 news service has done it FOR YOU....

also today

LADY standing with barry on unemployment

GUIULTY OF FELONY and FIRED BECAUSE UNDER investigation of ANOTHER FELONY

HEY I have a job for some of you libfux....VETTING FOR THE white house..

The political spewing shit at it's finest.

damned if you do and damned if you don't.

They didn't, so it's on the Republicans who voted no. They can go home and explain that vote to their constituents.

yes they can and I'm sure they thought of this before they cast their vote....don't you?

I'm sure it will be explained in these words...."I voted against every domestic spending bill proposed by the dems........."

IT WAS GREAT>>>two new YAWKERS going at it..
but I still dont get it...both were co sponsors...one of you more up on it..tell me why he exploded..

simple majority would have opened it up to amendments, which could have been used by Republicans to table it since the recess is approaching.

Oh. Well then just pass it then. 7 billion here, 7 billion there. It doesn't add up, don't worry.

I remember all of the sympathy for John Kerry when he tried to explain all of his "no" votes on all military/defense spending bills for the past 15 years or so when he was running for POTUS.

He couldn't defend that except to blame it on the GOP for attaching other things to those bills and/or excessive $$$ being added to those bills that he felt unnecessary. He claimed that often he supported the actual military/defense portions of those bills and insisted he wasn't weak on military/defense issues.

It never hurt him when running for re-election in the Senate but it KILLED him when running for POTUS.

There was a lot of lib sympathy for him then over the circumstances surrounding his "no" votes and that is wasn't as simple as just voting "no".

Ah, 'tis a said day when that's the best a frightened A Hole can do.
#88 | POSTED BY CORKY

You call me frightened but you're the one constantly flagging my posts trying to get my account suspended. Grow a pair.

The best part about this stunt that I'm guessing Weiner and the DNC didn't plan for was that now all this story is about is Weiner yelling and crying, not about the actual vote.

That's a shame. LOL.

Wow... if they are giving billions to NYC... what about the OKC bombing? Did they get a few billion shoveled their way?

Oh, wait, not politically expedient. I understand.

I would like to GOP to justify it's no vote for this bill.

Is it an excessive amount? If so, then what is acceptable? How would you prefer it to be different.

In the same token, the dems are free to justify the amount and show why this much is needed.

but both sides are more interested in scoring political points and bitching about procedure and motivations, etc...

fuck the first responders. politics first.

"This was a staged political event... anyone buying into Weiner's fake outrage is a fucking moron."

Spot On

Just another moronic rant from the left who have both barry and congress yet still 'can't get anything done' because of Republicans.

What a Fucking Joke....

"yet still 'can't get anything done' because of Republicans."

Must have been sleeping when Health CAre reform was passed, and financial regulation, and.....

What a maroon!

Must have been sleeping when Health CAre reform was passed, and financial regulation, and.....

Must have been drunk and can't remember that 99% of the news here surrounding those bills were about GOP opposition and not what was actually in them.

#121 | Posted by danni at 2010-07-30 02:32 PM | Reply | Flag: "I like to respond when things die down after my King is disgraced. I like to respond to stupid little things, cause when their hard I won't show my face."

oh danni...dont worry..you can bitch all you want when health care is repealed and replaced....:)

maybe you can hear from greyson on his dvd he USED taxpayer money for instead of campaign money..
OR ask the lady from obamas moral blackmail speech who is a CONVICTED FELON about it..

this is just another example...dems really do suck......

Nobody wants a hot spewing Weiner in your face except for Danni and Celesary

It is very funny the uber mistakes the whitehouse has been making with its ardent support for criminals lately.

That woman was supposed to be representative of the people the unemployment benefits were helping out.

Let's all hear it for King Oba paying thousands of extra dollars to fraudsters.... again.

Must have been drunk and can't remember that 99% of the news here surrounding those bills were about GOP opposition and not what was actually in them.

#122 | Posted by eberly

and many libfux dont give a shit that majority of americans did not like obama care or cap and tax or what this growing more dictatorial every week president did to arizona and WOULD do using the info from the memo from the immigration service about amnesty...

one thing for sure.

YOU libs are going to go CRAZY when the next gop president HAS AN executive branch as STRONG and massive as obama is making his....

Why don't democrats just push it through and not consult republican ideas like they did with the big legislation?

HEY CORKY>.
IVe got a job for you..

vetting for the white house...seems that you dont have to do anything...

reporter siad it took him 90 mins to get info on that woman....and white house didnt know shit about it..

INCOMPETENT LIARS!

I would like to GOP to justify it's no vote for this bill.

#119 | Posted by eberly

So.............. how about the dems that voted against it? You do know that the dems control the house, don't you? You do know that the dems control ALL of congress and the WH don't you? WTF over.

Why don't democrats just push it through and not consult republican ideas like they did with the big legislation?

#128 | Posted by daniel_3 at 2010-07-30

less than 100 days to midterms..and both sides will be tending even more to marking time..

AND DEMS will not rest in blaming gop for anything and everything even to the extent of shit like this...but problem is..too many DUPES out there who vote dem because thier daddy did, and his daddy did,,.,.etc

By the way ebe, there were some repubs that voted for it. Did you know that?

#129 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2010-07-30 02:41 PM | Reply | Flag

It is kind of their job to do that... play stupid.

What the hell is a "said" day?

#94 | Posted by wisgod at 2010-07-30 01:57 PM

Stupid
Ass
Irresponsible
Democrats

Seems like it is "said" day everday.

YOU libs are going to go CRAZY when the next gop president HAS AN executive branch as STRONG and massive as obama is making his....

#127 | Posted by afkabl2
* * * *

So will conservatives. At least the real ones.

no I didn't sniper.

Can someone post the vote?

We can't ride 9-11 into Office anymore, so fuck them.

The Republican Party over Country

Just another moronic rant from the left who have both barry and congress yet still 'can't get anything done' because of Republicans.

What a Fucking Joke....

#120 | Posted by 2008ATL at 2010-07-30 02:31 PM

That he is...

I noticed Weinerless hasn't screamed at the six percent of dems who were smart enough to vote no.

"oh danni...dont worry..you can bitch all you want when health care is repealed and replaced....:)"

Yeah that's sure to happen. Un huh, in your dreams.

"We can't ride 9-11 into Office anymore, so fuck them."

Exactly!

#121 | Posted by danni

I would refer to you as a 'useful idiot' but then I would be lying....

You're just an idiot

Can someone post the vote?

#136 | Posted by eberly at 2010-07-30 02:46 PM

255-159.

The 9/11 responders should follow the advice of the incompetent shitstain that allowed the attacks to occur and take their medical concerns to the emergency room.

So will conservatives. At least the real ones.

#135 | Posted by rightisright at 2010

I agree but dems will STILL have selective memory WHEN it happens...

The part I find amuzing from the Weiners of the Party is the need to constantly ram bills through. And then to throw a fit because they don't want to look at Amendments from the other Party? Fucking Majorrity of Children running this damned Country.

THis is the same little democrat new york turd rustler that I watched put out an amendment during health care debate not only knowing it wouldnt pass but only to give him the opprotunity to BLAST gop..
the little shit even VOTED AGAINST HIS OWN AMENDmEnT for proof..
so fuck him now

HEY any of you think this might turn into one of those scenes we see from southeast asia or eruo where they start throwing shit or fighting each other..

cool....

The 9/11 responders should follow the advice of the incompetent shitstain that allowed the attacks to occur and take their medical concerns to the emergency room.

#143 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at

another libfux weighs in with more fuckin lies...nicely done..
use it while you can....

I noticed Weinerless hasn't screamed at the six percent of dems who were smart enough to vote no.

#138 | Posted by crispee_oc

He probably too busy back at work on his one man crusade against MLB ticket prices and Goldline.

New York should be so proud!

What a wiener!

He should be going crazy. Those are his consituents. If more politicians had this kind of passion things would be better for everyone.
#11 | POSTED BY BRIWO

Then shouldn't he be pissed at his own party for trying to pass it this way? Shouldn't something as important as taking care of 9/11 rescue workers be brought to the floor for a normal vote? Why all this two thirds majority shit?
Exactly, because they wanted to fake anger more than take care of the workers who were down there on 9/11.
This was a staged political event... anyone buying into Weiner's fake outrage is a fucking moron.
#21 | Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2010-07-30 12:35 PM

Unlike Rethugs who voted for voting against taking care of 9/11 rescue workers - because, like fucking morons they did buy into Weiner's fake outrage staged political event?! Are you defending the Republican way of voting or their actual vote?

Since he's solely to blame for stonewalling Democrats and 9/11 rescue workers, what could Weiner have said that wouldn't have pushed away Republican votes?

another libfux weighs in with more fuckin lies...nicely done..
use it while you can....

#148 | Posted by afkabl2

another Becktard admits he lies

I see Weiner stuck a cord.

Good job!

Keep it up! Maybe The Babbler's head will explode this time.

stuck, struck, whatever...

So the rtards fell into the dems trap...good. The dems should do this on every item on which they need to vote and make a prime example out of the "do-nothing, we need to go back to the policies that gutted our country" asshole republicans. Mr King looked quite the fool on the fox interview, so this was a homerun.

Funnier still than seeing the repubes with egg on their face (again) is the faux outrage on the part of the rtards posting here. Pssssst: Just face it: you're supporting a team of obsolete losers.

People should take a page out of the tea party playbook and send that DICK a bunch of hotdogs... single unwrapped and by the slowest delivery method possible (US Snail Mail)...

So when it gets delivered, he has an office full of spoiled rotten wieners.

Pelosi's little wiener is on the loose

So the rtards fell into the dems trap...good.

#154 | Posted by panchovilla at 2010-07-30 04:02 PM

Well, at least you admit the Dems were playing politics with 9/11 rescue workers.

So the rtards fell into the dems trap...good.

So the 9-11 First responders have been screwed because of partisan politics being played by both sides.....good.

there, FIFY.

So the rtards fell into the dems trap...good.

#154 | Posted by panchovilla

I'll bet you wish you could take that post back, eh La Douche?

Opps. Le Douche....

-you're the one constantly flagging my posts trying to get my account suspended.

OMG! What a baby!

Guy calls people c-suckers and someone flags him and he not only psychically knows who it was, but blmaes them for getting him Dumps when he's the one who broke the rulz.

What a baby.

Guy calls people c-suckers and someone flags him and he not only psychically knows who it was, but blmaes them for getting him Dumps when he's the one who broke the rulz.

IOW, he flags everything you post, but he isn't the only pussy who does it.

Yeah, between Corky and Sarvis it's a wonder this isn't a 100% Obama Love Fest Site.

Eberly knows all! He knows who flags what merely by consulting his ass.

Speaking of which, Hi Wissy!

#165 | Posted by Corky at 2010-07-30 04:58 PM | Reply | Flag: upset that he is easier to read than a Little Critter book.

Speaking of which, Hi Wissy!

#165 | Posted by Corky

Don't get mad. You've earned the reputation, Mama's Boy.

RE# 154 NW flag!...we should sick the Weiner on 'em more often!

I hear the Pugs love a good Weiner now and again!

I wonder if Barney Frank voted with the Weiner.

The congressman needs to get an award--how about a Weiner Trophy--for that performance--WOW!

I don't understand the amendment--we love our 9/11 first responders.

They received worker's comp (which is not 100%). They received settlements under WC. They get WC for as long as they are treating too.

100% medical and 66.67% wage if missing work.

And the really good part is that Weiner knows they just got a settlement--June 23rd for millions set to be paid to responders...

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Qualifying plaintiffs will be enrolled in a special insurance policy through MetLife that will pay up to $100,000 for certain blood and respiratory cancers diagnosed during the coverage period.

The amended settlement raises the total compensation for sick first responders from $625 million proposed in the March 11 settlement to $712 million and caps attorney fees to 25 percent of the total settlement.

Additionally, people claiming severe respiratory issues contracted within seven months of exposure at the World Trade Center site or any surrounding areas could receive between $800,000 to $1.05 million. Plaintiffs not suffering from a qualifying injury, but have a legal claim fearing they will become sick can receive $3,250. Claims of death proven to be caused by post 9/11 operations could receive $1.5 million in compensation.

"This settlement provides plaintiffs with closure and certainty, while also reserving some funds for future claims," said Christine LaSala, president and CEO of the WTC Captive organization.

"We believe it is the best path forward for these plaintiffs, as their only other option right now is to proceed to lengthy and costly litigation with an uncertain outcome," LaSala explained.

Ninety-five percent of the plaintiffs have to agree to opt in for the settlement to be finalized. They will have until September 8 to review the settlement and decide if they will participate.

Attorney Marc Bern, who helps represent victims, is confident the settlement will get 95 percent approval.

www.cnn.com

So what is the problem here with congress?

So can anyone explain why they would need another 7.4 BILLION when they are already being compensated?

Why?

Good link Murph.

When the klieglights aren't on, and the facts come out, the Weiner goes limp.

How much GOP ass could a Wiener kick if a Wiener could kick GOP ass? A Wiener would kick as much GOP ass as a Wiener could kick, if a Wiener could kick GOP ass.

When the klieglights aren't on, and the facts come out, the Weiner goes limp.
#172 | Posted by rightisright

Didn't someone warn you about going into show business?

playing politics

I love this phrase. It's politics. What did you expect politicians to be playing? Was it Minneapolis airport bathroom wide-stance games?

How much GOP ass could a Wiener kick if a Wiener could kick GOP ass?
Posted by moder8

Ask a man that has one, it.

No wonder congress approval is 11%.

It would go up if they had an actual brawl like they do in Taiwan...

How much GOP ass could a Wiener kick if a Wiener could kick GOP ass?

How much Weiner can Barney Frank shove up his ass if Barney Frank could shove Weiner up his ass?

This entire circus/freak show was choreographed better than a Fellini movie. A move MEANT to make the GOP look bad. Expect more of this before November.

Not one lib has answered WHY the 9/11 first responders need 7.4 billion, when they are already covered under their current insurance and the up and coming ObamaCare?

My conspiracy instincts smell a rat in the democrat party.

Weiner acted like a dick.

Beach--see the link on #170 from CNN

They are going to settle the responders case--by Sept 1st for millions already.

King would know this--it's his friggin people--and KING VOTED YES btw.

Weiner is just a hot dog and needs some mustard to complete the picture.

Weiner was just on with Hannity. Simple question. Will you pledge that you'll read bills before you vote in the future?

That poor sod couldn't /wouldn't answer the question.

Not to mention why the vote with a Majority couldn't pass it?

And you Libtards wonder why these cowards are going to be kicked to the curb on November 2nd? Sorry, The American Public is aware of the bullshit. Bwahahaha. The majority of Idiots are done. Thank God!

Guy calls people c-suckers and someone flags him and he not only psychically knows who it was, but blmaes them for getting him Dumps when he's the one who broke the rulz.
What a baby.

#162 | POSTED BY CORKY

Corky you're a fucking snitch... a little girl running off to teacher to tell him that someone pulled your hair. Its not fucking hard to know that you're the snitch... a little fucking tattle-tail.

And that's all that needs to be said about you snitch.

Weiner is just a hot dog and needs some mustard to complete the picture.

#180 | Posted by MURPHY

FF

Rob - Corky is the typical liberal dork...all talk, no action. They depend on MF's like you and me to make the hard decisions and kill the bad guys for them while they whine about pollution, oil companies, guns, cars, incandescent lights, plastic bags, veal cows, earth warming trends, Indian history, black history, republicans, WTC 7, Iraq, Tora Bora, Arizona, Palin, Bush, etc…

Give em hell Weiner.. the only thing better would be a caning of King on the house floor.

At no point did the DNC ever care about the 9/11 workers in this.

#78 | POSTED BY ROB_THE_A_HOLE

Now he is a fucking psychic. You assholes are un-american.

Rob - Corky is the typical liberal dork...all talk, no action. They depend on MF's like you and me to make the hard decisions and kill the bad guys for them while they whine about pollution, oil companies, guns, cars, incandescent lights, plastic bags, veal cows, earth warming trends, Indian history, black history, republicans, WTC 7, Iraq, Tora Bora, Arizona, Palin, Bush, etc…

#183 | POSTED BY BEACHBUZZ

You pansies couldn't kill anything other than a 6 pack and half dozen 7 layer burritos from taco bell. Go add to your girth sally..

Talking all dirty harry doesn't make it so..

Just another "Low Grade" Con Job!!!

Both Weiner and King are "Owned & Operated" by Israel....So figure out who this histrionic "B.S." was really calculated to benefit...and it definitely wasn't Weiner's 911 "Heroes"!!!

Anticadillac-

I guess you'll have to explain to us how health care to 9/11 first responders is a sop to Israel.

But I doubt you will, since it's clearly something you pulled out of your ass.

No one has aver accused libs of being sane.

MSGT-
So, you would have voted with the Republicans against this bill to benefit the 9/11 first responders?

"You vote yes if you believe yes! You vote in favor of something if you believe it's the right thing! If you believe it's the wrong thing, you vote no!"

Talking all dirty harry doesn't make it so..

#186 | Posted by Legio at 2010-

ahaaa...seems as those I have ruffled a skirt or two.

Do you like it rough Lego?

You like it rough too Boyd?

And that's all that needs to be said about you snitch.

Snitches get stitches.

(Stitches purchased with tax dollars as prisoners receive free medical care pursuant to the Eighth Amendment.)

More "fiscal responsibility" from the Party of No. LOL!

Rob_The_A_Hole's attitude is exactly what I'm talking about when I say Americans will happily pay extra to satisfy their thirst for vengeance. We'll pay 10x the cost of rehab to incarcerate a drug addict.

WEINER?---an appropriate name for this scrawny showboat---he should have been replaced years ago. Someone should put a fork in him, garnish him with some ketchup, mustard, pickles and onions and roast his sorry rearend on a grill. This is the exact kind of person that this country doesn't need representing it----another program for another special interest---and I thought all the left was criticizing the Bush for his deficit spending the last 8 years.

Fuck you Weiner. I truly hope some good Samaritan sees you on the street and kicks your fucking ass.

Pure political theater designed specifically for Weiner's re-election efforts.

Fuck you. I hope you die, you fucking little punk.

Pure political theater designed specifically for Weiner's re-election efforts.

Weiner's been reelected with practically no opposition.

"Weiner defeated Republican Louis Telano in the 1998 U.S. House election, by a margin of 66%–23%. He was re-elected in 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, and 2008, never receiving below 65%."

The REAL Weiner in this country won't even use his own last name.

'Michael Savage' ring a bell?

The good news here, is that courtesy of political stuntmaking, the Republic saved another $7,400,000,000.

You vote yes if you believe yes! You vote in favor of something if you believe it's the right thing! If you believe it's the wrong thing, you vote no!"

#191 | Posted by BetelG

that sounds good EXCEPT when you find out the WHOLE STORY

of DEMS sabatoging the whole vote in the first place..JUST LIKE pete king charged.
why did they make it where 2 3rds of the house had to vote yes..

and pete king WAS A FUCKIN SPONSOR OF THE bill so why was weiner being such a dick...( ha ha).....
because he could SCORE POLITICAL POINTS AGAInST the gop....
the fuckin little piece of shit.........

ANYONE see them BOTH together on fox...it was good tv

Brown, Spanish speaking people are coming to get you!!!!

#105 | Posted by danni at 2010-07-30 02:08 PM | Reply | Flag

Only 105 posts in before the race baiting. That's at least a record Danni. What the hell does that have to do with anything. You take white guilt to a whole new level. It's embarrassing.

HBG have you ever dated a black guy?

I will believe we're broke when we send the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan because it costs too much.

#26 | Posted by rcade at 2010-07-30 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

What happened? You guys said Afganistan was the right war.

It'll be the right war when they send you washboard.

#48 | Posted by moder8 at 2010-07-30 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Does your brother love you yet?

GoldLine is ripping people off by selling them collectible gold coins and acting like they're gold bullion. What's pathetic is that Beck is a party to ripping off his audience.

#51 | Posted by rcade at 2010-07-30 01:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not unlike you ripping off your audience with the ads you run. eh?

You got alot of penis envy. I'll bet you've been told that before though.

#186 | Posted by Legio at 2010-07-30 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag: Weiner's little brudda.

Weiner for President!

Everyone knows lib dems display aberrant behavior so why is this in the news???

Everyone knows lib dems display aberrant behavior so why is this in the news???

#209 | Posted by MSgt at 2010-08-01 02:23 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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The gentleman has a right to speak

You sir are an asshole,

Straightjacket anyone?

7.4 Billion?

as in Seven Point Four B I L L I O N! With a "B"!

How many first responders where there?

This basket case is yelling because he has 100% emotion behind his argument and 0% logic and reason as is evidenced by his rant.

If you are attempting to whip up your illogical base you use 100% emotion. Even 1% of logic would be lost on his constituents as is evidenced by the post here on the DR.

WIENER! WIENER! WIENER!

Fuck the Republicans.

This was a pretty politically motivated move by the Dems in the way of procedure. They suspended the rules to deny recommitting motions and any amendments. That's why a 2/3 vote was required. They were afraid the Repubs would amend to take the money from Obamacare or the Stimulus. They did this to set the GOP up. The GOP walked in stupidity and did exactly what was expected. So the Dems were shifty and the Repubs were stupid. That said, they'll just offer it normally allowing amendments and pass the damn thing following the election.

First responders (weather 9/11 or not) already receive healthcare from their employeers. Why do they need more?

What if they lose their jobs, because they're so sick from stuff they breathed in on 9/11? Where do they get their health care from then?

Come to think of it... what if anybody loses their job, for any reason. What then?

Not unlike you ripping off your audience with the ads you run. eh?

Such as?

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